Famous Fund Current Balance Is!!!!!!!

[tickler_n_black]

hey all. we've started to receive the first wave -we hope its only the first wave- of donations for the famous tickling fund we started 4 days ago. also the credit card online donations are included in the figure below.

the current balance is $1050.00


we'll update you every week as to the amount collected.

[Sandrock74]

Hopefully we can get this done sooner as opposed to later......I can't wait for the outcome!

[tickler_n_black]

there are some clarifications id like to make.

we'd like to ask that your donations are no less than $20
greedy are we? no. but at $5 or $10 per donation our goal is not reachable any time soon. we want this to happen, and soon. also its not fair for someone to donate $5 and get the entire incredible video free while his "neighbor" sends in $25 or $50. weve even had emails sent saying they are sending in $1. we feel that a person like thats heart really isnt in the cause, but theyre just attempting to get a $1 video in the future (maybe the best video ever made). im sure you all understand? do you agree? tell me im not crazy for not wanting $1 donations with the return being a free video! take care.

[Kmars]

Very good point TIB. My $50 donation has already been sent in by credit card. I look forward to seeing a history making video with an extremely ticklish celebrity, whoever it turns out to be. Good Luck with the search.

[tickler_n_black]

thanks kmars. also, to you $50 donators by credit card. you wont have to pay a penny for the video, not for shipping either. we'll cover all costs. you're all paid up.

[Alex Warfield]

A dollar? That is ridiculous. I think $20 is more than reasonable, considering you are getting the chance to see something that you likely would never be able to see otherwise. I plan on having a $25 money order out to you guys very soon.

[tickler_n_black]

the current balance is $1175.00


we'll update you every week as to the amount.

[tickler_n_black]

the current balance is $1205.00

were on our way there. need more support though. :D
remember. all donators get the videos for free.
all others will be charged $60

click the links below to see how. take care.

[qjakal]

This is going fairly slowly...I'm kind of disappointed in the TMF for not rising to the challenge and delivering the goods....we can do better than this, gang! Gonna end up with a silent film star if that's all we can raise! :wow: Q

[Neutron]

I'd rather wait and pay 60 dollars, that way I can ensure it's someone I'd like tickled.
If I knew for a fact someone say Leeann Tweeden was gonna get tickled I'd send my money in right now.
Otherwise I'd just prefer to wait until the vid is released then decide.

Tron

[DarkSoul]

I want to wait and see who it is first once there is a name
I like I'll put in more then 20 you can be sure of that
i hope it's someone good

[SuperTickler]

I think that TC and the people who've donated thus far better come to terms with the fact that you aren't going to raise anywhere NEAR $8,000, if you've just got $1,200 at this point. You need another $6,800, and my take is that anyone who would be willing to donate has already done so.

Before anyone accuses me of being "negative," let me just say that I'm being realistic. It would take 160 people donating $50 each to reach $8,000, and, with the number of people who actually BUY videos on a regular basis probably numbering less than 50 (even that is a generous guess), it's a steep uphill climb!

And, as Neutron pointed out, anyone who donates is buying a pig in a poke because we don't know who the subject will be. :cool:

[Frink]

An crude estimate of how long it will take to reach $8000 given the previous updates (starting with $500 at 0 days and increasing to $1050, $1175, and $1205 at time increments of 4, 10, and 12 days respectively) is about 265 days--total starting from the announcement on 3/15/02.

This (linear) estimate is still quite optimistic IMHO because the donations are already (seemingly) trailing off. And with further "encouragement" in the form of skepticism and the "wait and see" mentality, it may never happen. It might be wise for TC to sweeten the deal with incentives to encourage more and/or larger individual donations. Alternatively, attempts should be made to appeal to a broader consumer base to obtain more numerous (relatively smaller) donations (perhaps even soliciting them from a fan club/base of the potential celeb).

Barring that, if I were TC Vids (lol...dreaming here :p) , I would seriously consider limiting distribution of any product to the donors only--unless the price for the final product is so prohibitively exhorbitant (i.e., significantly more than $60) that someone would be insane not to donate a few bucks in advance for the vid rather than risk having to pay later. The "wait and see" mentality is typical for the cautions consumer (and good in many instances), but it can be killer for any charitable venture. (Imagine what it would do to any charity/cause ppl donate to.)

That's basically what TC has undertaken, out of the kindness of their hearts. By that I mean they already contributed $500 themselves, and still have TONS of folks to weed through, contact, get rejected by and/or select and/or audition. Then they have to do the best tk vid shoot they've ever done b4 technically and otherwise (would anyone settle for less??), and still they're willing to give it all away for a $20 (minimum) donation?? That's *significantly* less than their regular vids--for a LOT more time and energy! With the limited tk market, you can bet they're not going to get to retire off of this--not by a LONG shot.

For me, this is just something different and new and (hopefully) exciting to be a part of. So my plug is, if you've ever bought a vid before, think of this one as one that you--along with your fellow TMFers--helped to make. Then make a donation--for us all. If we all succeed here, at least it'll virtually guarantee that something bigger and better can and will be done in the future.

:cool:

[Neutron]

A charitable venture. So your comparison is incorrect.

Tron

[Neutron]

You made a math error. Look at it closely. You assume linearity when in fact it's a diminishing exponential. At the current REAL rate it'll take over 12000 days.


Tron

[tickler_n_black]

Originally posted by Frink
I would seriously consider limiting distribution of any product to the donors only--unless the price for the final product is so prohibitively exhorbitant (i.e., significantly more than $60) that someone would be insane not to donate a few bucks in advance for the vid rather than risk having to pay later

thats not a bad idea frink. good call. $100 sale price sound better? but all donators still get it for free?

(the following words are spoken with kindness not anger) :)

ya c people, this is your video, not ours. we already donated $500 from the start. the whole concept from the beginning was for us all to pull together as a community and get this done. it all boils down to if you people really want to see this happen, or not. it would literally only take $5 from each registered member of this forum to reach over $14,000!!! just $5 dollars. none of us our made of money but....$5? (this would work only if everyone sent in, all 3000 members).

some of you who are "waiting to see" are not getting the point. we wont make any offers to any famous females until we have the money to back up the offer. and if the "wait and see" attitude prevails among this community then we'll never get the money. its not us stopping this from happening faster. its those of you who dont want to contribute to make it happen.

either way we're fine with it. we want to try this concept. its new territory so no one knows what to expect. we'll see what happens.

for the record, everyone of you who have contributed, thank you very much. we have precise records kept as to who you are. at the very worst case scenario you will be given back your money. dont sweat it. but lets give this some more time and see if people start to change their minds about helping to get this done. i hope so. we would love to see this really happen. opportunity of a lifetime for all of us if it does! but it will take a group effort. :)

[tickler_n_black]

again, if you want to send cash, money order or personal check go here:

CLICK HERE FOR EASY INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO (http://realtickling.com/donationpage.htm)

[tickler_n_black]

Originally posted by Frink
That's basically what TC has undertaken, out of the kindness of their hearts. By that I mean they already contributed $500 themselves, and still have TONS of folks to weed through, contact, get rejected by and/or select and/or audition. Then they have to do the best tk vid shoot they've ever done b4 technically and otherwise (would anyone settle for less??), and still they're willing to give it all away for a $20 (minimum) donation?? That's *significantly* less than their regular vids--for a LOT more time and energy! With the limited tk market, you can bet they're not going to get to retire off of this--not by a LONG shot.

frink. you said it way better than we could've. were not really good with words. everyone look above! what he said! :)

[Frink]

Originally posted by Neutron
You made a math error. Look at it closely. You assume linearity when in fact it's a diminishing exponential. At the current REAL rate it'll take over 12000 days.


It's not an error. It's crude, optimistic projection as I indicated. Thank you, for reading and understanding that so well. :rolleyes: I thought presenting that preferable to fitting an exponential to 4 measly data points. (That's the "why bother?" curve. lol) If incentives are added (or something is new is done) tomorrow, things could change dramatically--hopefully for the better.

Your disagreement about the other point is noted. Thanks again.

:cool:

[Raul]

TIB,

Can I use PayPal?

Raul

[Darkknight]

It's funny.. Frink nailed it on the head.

Getting the money as brutal as it looks to get is the easier part for
TC videos. I mean they could have $10,000 and still go through all the calls and headaches of trying to even get a famous gal to think about doing it. I don't even want to imagine that part.

I think you should raise the price to $100 to those that dont donate. I would have said it even if I hadn't. Cuz if it's someone you really wanted, you really pay anything to she her tickled on tape and for way more than 5 minutes!

So the price is $60 right now. If every member, not those that have donated already, gave $5 for the cause and not to get a free copy.. we would have over $10,000. I know, not every member would be interested and not everyone is into seeing a famous gal tickled.

I believe the rush of donators has already happened and sadly it will dwindle down. For those that want to "wait and see", why not send the $5 or $10. Then if it is someone you wanted you just paid a little extra. And if it wasn't, you lost $5 or $10. Like you're going to miss $5 or $10. You lose a couple of drinks or a couple of lottery tickets.

It's really the "cause" that matters right now. This could open the door for a "famous" video again. The first time for any project is usually not something great but it leads you to something great.

Look how it started with Stern. In the beginning it was some strippers being tickled and then he gets real famous gals in the tickle chair. It would have never gotten that far without the "lame" beginning of the tickle chair.

Eh..what do I know anyway? I just felt like throwing my opinion up here.
Personally, I'm hoping to not see my money back cuz if I do, I know a great project never got a chance.

What's $5-$10 in the big picture?

Peace,
DK

[Darkknight]

If TC doesn't take Paypal, I may be able to help.
It's up to you but I have a paypal account. I could receive your payment and pay TC with my credit card.
I know paypal dings ya a couple of dollars so I'll cover the amount they take out.

Email me if you want, of course my reputation is your only way of knowing I'm legit. Always trying to help even if I can't get my homework done (inside joke).

Peace,
DK

[dardanos78]

Although I havn't yet I will be sending the cash, unfortunatley right now I am about to graduate so money is thin, but when I'm able I will send mine.

[Tickler Bart]

I will contribute to this VERY interesting venture. May i suggest perhaps Cameron Diaz. She might be crazy enough to do it.:evilha:

[tickler_n_black]

the current balance is $1310.00

were on our way. need much more support though.
remember. all donators get the video for free.
all others will be charged $100 for the 30 minute video.

after reading a suggestion that perhaps we should have a name before expecting any more donations, we've decided that we will now make our first effort to search and find this ticklee we all want. will keep you updated.

click the links below to see how to help out. take care.

[Neutron]

Ok so you hope to get people to donate to front a video. That;'s cool. My guess is many who put money upfront aren't normally video buyers. So say you have a guy like me, I own about 10 Realtickling videos, but prefer to decide based on what I see whether I'll buy a video. So I'd consider myself a loyal customer. So assuming you make this video you're going to charge people 100 dollars. What kind of logic is that? My guess is you'll never make this video, and if you do you'll not break even because noone will spend 100 for it. In the meantime you've insulted a lot of people who have consistently bought femfeet videos.

Go figure
Tron

[P.H. Tickler]

Capitalism is alive and well. Even if 80,000 was raised, no credible celebrity would risk it (even if they would, their agents wouldn't). What happens if the film never gets made? full refunds, without a "service" charge? No guarantees on the celebrity?
Let's look at this logically for a second...
The company "donates" 500 bucks, big deal! they are in business! donors get a free vid, what about a percentage of the returns? The term DONOR bugs me... but a free vid doesn't exactly warrant the term INVESTOR. Do not confuse "community spirit" with "Super Creative Acquisition of Money" (SCAM). Bottom line is a for-profit company will be making a vid for 500 bucks, the only penalty will be the cost of copying the tapes ,I could turn a profit trading $25 for one copied tape. Let's not forget TIB's shameless requests for more and highr donations... let me ask you, how many of you star wars fans sent a monetary donation to George Lucas for episodeII? i didn't think so.
If you get a chance to read this, keep 2 points in mind
1. Buyer beware
2. You got here before someone had a chance to pull this decidedly anti-producer post A.K.A. "the real golden rule"

heck, i'm surprised yaqi isn't mixed up in this somehow.

[qjakal]

Umm..you're equating TC with LucasFilms, and you want us to take this seriously...? :confused: Q

[P.H. Tickler]

Originally posted by qjakal
Umm..you're equating TC with LucasFilms, and you want us to take this seriously...? :confused: Q

Take it however you like, it's your money. The analogy wasn't the point;)

[qjakal]

Hey, I'll agree with you if you're trying to say "don't send in the money you were going to use to pay your mortgage/rent with"...but if you buy one less video game or a few less magazines or somesuch because you took a chance on this, then just as I plunk down my $20 to go to a movie, not KNOWING if the thing is any good, so I and others may also attempt to have a bit of fun with this...."nothing ventured, nothing gained", to counteract your "look before you leap"....:) Q

[jordan]

I would not send a dime into this. Here is a list of reasons.
1.We do not know if the movie could enen happen
2.We don't know if the money is still there
3.Even if they get $8000 we might not see TC videos again
4.Know one can tell that this money will not dissapear

Who ever sent money into this is real gulible even if they pull it off how do you know you will get a free video?

[qjakal]

Strong words....are you suggesting that TC, in a clever "escape" move, is going to raise a few thousand dollars and then disappear to live a life of luxury in...well...nowhere actually, not on a few thousand dollars. Rather than stay and continue to be a part of the community that they have helped foster, TIB, Kathy and associates will divvy up this "fortune" and fade away, leaving their fetish behind and sliding back into the mainstream society, sated both with tickling and loaded with our money? Hey, anything is possible, but I'll go with the track records they've established and the fact that they are also obviously "blessed/cursed" with the fascination of tickling, just as the rest of us are...but, you certainly have the right NOT to send in your money....no doubt about it! Perhaps you'll even be able to jump around and say "I told you so", should the video not be able to get made...but if you refer to some of the earlier posts in the thread, half the fun is in the process...you don't want to participate and have stated that clearly. Meanwhile, I think I'll send in another contribution, just for the hell of it! One or two less movies that suck at the local CineMax and I'm covered! ;) Q

[tickler_n_black]

so ph tickler, jordan, what? ur expecting me to make a response in anger while foamin at the mouth to your accusations? no thank you. not worth the time.

this started out as a simple concept and still is.
we all pool some money together and we go after a celeb.
its not more complex than that. and its not for profit like some have accused. the idea was to get all the money collected for the video, then do the video, then send the video free to all those contributing. there was not going to be any sales involved. but we underestimated many of you and now we may have to pay a huge sum ourselves to complete the video.

we'll still give the donators free copies as promised. and our word is solid whether you claim to know differently or not. but those that wanted nothing to do with this project, will have to pay a hefty fee to help us at least make the money back that we had to kick in (the money that never came in from the community who the majority say they would love to see a celeb tickled).

if you dont want to risk it yourself, thats fine. don't. but some want to try and make this work so why not let us all try? why stand around with a sign in your hand yelling "it'll never work! damn all of you!"?

its not life or death and its certainly not a scam. what is it about this ground breaking attempt to do something new that angers you so? do some soul searching. it shouldn't anger anyone. its a cool project. its something we want to try and we're gonna give it 100% and see where it takes us.

[jordan]

Uh why would anyone sane that makes millions of dollars for one movie settle for 8000? And with that money why would they need to make tickling movies? Or what could stop anyone from chaning their name on here? I'm saying a coin has two sides to it.

[jordan]

I'm only 23 and I have seen a lot of crap in my years and this is a big pile of it. Anyone who would risk any money for a guarntee should walk to a toilet and flush there billfolds now. Money changes people and money is the root to all evil. Anything can happen, and for being smart I'm going to hang around this place and when either the following happen:

1.No movie
2.No celeb
3.No money

Im going to be there to say "Told you so." Its all about money I bet this is a scam and you all played into it, I'm just happy a few people saw through it.

[jordan]

qjakal Don't confuse anything with a magazine or video game. When you put money down for it you know your getting what you want.

[Neutron]

Now jordan,

I have some issues with this project, BUT honesty on the part of femfeet is not one of them. I had a tape show up broken, they sent a new one gratis. (that means free sport).
They said celebrity, not star. For your info a supermodel makes 4K a show. About an hours work. I'd imagine there's lots of celebs cheaper than that. Jackie Lick is a celeb of sorts. She did a tickling video.
Don't doubt these peoples honesty. Think about it, Why ask for 8K? Why not 10 K. ? SEems like a long way to wait for 8thousand dollars eh? And why make not ONE but TWO videos in the meantime.
Think about it lil pup. You're not as wise as you believe.


I'd imagine they have a list, and have approached people, IN FACT judging from the emails I got from TIB and Kathy at home I'd bet they went into considerable effort, since both sent me multiple emails for contact info. However, if they gave a list a lot of people might not donate.
I'm don't really like this mechanism they;ve used, BUT I believe they've made an honest effort. And I'm the eternal skeptic about things online.
I'm not sure what your problem is with Realtickling BUT their integrity and honesty shouldn't be on your problem list.
Hell if I recall correctly at least TIB knows some people from this forum.
Lady Elizabeth seems to trust them, and she full well realizes if she did business with people who scammed the rest of us, her business might suffer too.

So drop it lil guy.

There. My good deed for the year :)

Tron

[U.N.Owen]

I've said from the start I didn't think this would work out, but there is NO need to question the honesty of TC.

Whether it will work or not, this is NOT a scam! That much is pretty bloody obvious.

I still say that a prior commitment from a plausible 'lee is needed, though, before serious money can be raised. And if such a commitment is obtained, I tend to think a lot more than 8K could be raised. In other words, find a celeb, get an agreement at a specified price, THEN raise the money. That's my opinion.

But DON'T claim this is fraud, when it isn't.

[areenactor]

hi tib, cathy, et al. is it set in stone that this is going to be a f/f ticklin video? i'd like to contribute, but not for a f/f tape. you know my feelings on that. if yo decide to g with a m/f format, i'll be more than happy to fork over $40. good luck.
steve

[jordan]

Alright Nue you got me on some good points, but money changes people. One video is like $50 were talking about $80,000 there is a big size difference in that number. Don't run anything over something from one veiw point. And don't get lippy with me (not you nue) I really don't care what you call it I don't buy it for a second 80,000 feels way to much for just a super model.

[jordan]

And don't confuse my age with experience. I've been through more shit in five years than some in twenty.

[venray]

Originally posted by jordan
Alright Nue you got me on some good points, but money changes people. One video is like $50 were talking about $80,000 there is a big size difference in that number. Don't run anything over something from one veiw point. And don't get lippy with me (not you nue) I really don't care what you call it I don't buy it for a second 80,000 feels way to much for just a super model.
You are right that 80,000 is too much for a super model, but we're
talking $8,000 not $80,000. Big difference between those numbers.

We're also talking about the integrity of a group of people who contribute to our community and provide a quality product and good customer service. To question their honesty in an open forum is just plain wrong. If you do not wish to contribute, then dont, but to
libel someone in this place isnt the way to go.

You have a right not to participate and a right to your opinion as long as it isnt slanderous to others.


Ven

[P.H. Tickler]

Originally posted by tickler n black
so ph tickler, jordan, what? ur expecting me to make a response in anger while foamin at the mouth to your accusations? no thank you. not worth the time.


Even if you were foaming at the mouth, I wouldn't see it because of the mask ;)
i did go to the TC website and read the donations page, I read all of the posts... in retrospect, perhaps the intentions are genuine, but the wording is shady, and given that words are the first and only impression, perhaps you should consider carefully how you phrase your requests for donations. Having read some of your other posts elsewhere, I think we both would do ourselves alot of good to actually read our posts with others in mind. I went with a gut reaction to a first impression, and for that, TIB, I apologise.
I don't even buy vids, unless you somehow get a vid with Ashley Judd tickled in nylons... then the check would DEFINITELY be in the mail:devil: .
Upon a preliminary investigation, it sounded shady... upon further review of your posts, I think it's just the wording. I must be ill:wow: I NEVER change my opinions... well there is a first time for everything :cool:
Good luck with your project TIB.

[jordan]

PH I think were one in the same. I admire how you stink with what you belive in, but at the same time can admit when wrong and so must I...

Sorry TIB maybe I jumped the gun, but when it come to cash I'm a sceptic with everything. If you had Ashley Judd or Sarah Machel Geller and it was a fact that they would starr in the movie I would give $50 myself. Time tought me however not to spend money on promises and over extended words...

I lied, I won't say "Told you so," or "Ha ha." I've been dissapointed before in my life so instead I'm going to say "Good luck." And don't cheat anyone TIB there are too many of us to handle. And I'm sorry that me and PH's opinons upset anyone... Well not really

cya

[tickler_n_black]

ph tickler and jordan. thanks for understanding. takes a real man to publicly change his mind. i appreciate that you're gonna let us try this without being overly negative about it. i do understand your reluctance to believe it. i have two new friends is what im thinking! thanks. :)

[Wentworth Cain]

Hmmmmm. Very disturbing.

[jordan]

Wentworth Cain who are you talking to? Or about?