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Clips4Sale Sales down this past week for Producers?

laughinggaszone

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Just wondering how other producers are fairing. This last 7 days has been the worst, as far as sales go, I've ever seen on clips4sale. I'm thinking that it might have to do with tax time, but we're doing ok, certianly better, in the other avenues we sell our clips and DVDs. How are some of you other producers doing?
webmaster joe
 
Hey Joe,
I don't think its clips4sale sales that are the issue, my averages have been pretty close to normal except for a few days where there were server issues over Easter (but I anticipated that) The trend for my sales seems to vary by genre here lately rather than specific stores. One day handcuff fetish goes nuts, the next day its lactation and balloons the next. Tickling and handjobs have been consistent with projections thus far though. Keep tabs on the ease of access in your store daily and your traffic counts. If they are normal then it could be server issues, if your traffic is down, blog your ass off lol. Just my 2 cents.
TG
 
Interesting. I'll have to look into it. As I said, our other methods of selling are fine and have always done better than C4S. This is preferred, since C4S takes a much higher % of sales.
webmaser joe
 
Rarely

I rarely buy from Clips4sale anymore unless the clip looks extremely good. I only use membership sites now.
 
How is ita better value? Do the producers tend to make their clips cheaper or do you watch all their files fora package price?
LGZ
 
Ok

Take a look at Tickle Abuse or Brazil Tickling.
I can either get a Monthly Recurring Membership which automatically renews.
Or a Monthly Non Recurring Membership which usually costs 5 to 10 dollars more.

They also have quarterly rates and such.

An example is Brazil Tickling: 19.95 recurring or 24.95 Non Recurring

For that price I can download all their videos if I want. If the company is a good I'm certain they make money.

Examples would be the sits at Kink.com (example www.ultimatesurrender.com) or the bondagechannel (www.thebondagechannel.com).
They work with some top price talent yet they are thriving.

You might not get the money for each individual clip, but if you're a good company that updates 4 to 8 times a month people will still keep renewing.

I've had memberships of all 4 of the above sites, and I've renewed my memberships too.

My only problem with TA and BTS is their setup. It's harder to navigate the clips.

I prefer the set up at ultimatesurrender or thebondagechannel.
 
BTW

I'm not saying that's the reason your sales are down. I'm just saying that's my preference.
 
I'm not saying that's the reason your sales are down. I'm just saying that's my preference.


Hmmm...it's interesting. I don't know if it's the right model for us. Our overall sales have actually doubled over the last several months, but clips4sale is just lagging terribly lately. And it's not people shifting from clips4sale to our website.
Just not sure what the deal is. Most likely it will rebound, but i like to know what the cause is.
LGZ
 
Could Be

Spring Break, the upcoming summer or something like that.
 
Just wondering how other producers are fairing. This last 7 days has been the worst, as far as sales go, I've ever seen on clips4sale. I'm thinking that it might have to do with tax time, but we're doing ok, certianly better, in the other avenues we sell our clips and DVDs. How are some of you other producers doing?
webmaster joe

As far as clip sales, yes it is down but my Membership Club on the other hand, is in full swing. And as much as I hate to say this, during a recession is seem porn and booze sales are up.

Last year for example I was doing quite well in clips sales and one of my best friends own a bar and his sales were off the charts
 
Well myself I'm really picky, and so I don't buy from most of the producers, but I do prefer clips4sale over a recurring monthly fee. I have however subscribed to sites in the past and just got what I wanted from them and then cancelled my membership.

Just today I noticed that clips4sale has updated it's look twice in 2 months. The first change was a great move in that they made it so that only stores with tickling would come up and if you opened one of those stores it would have it preset to just show that stores tickling clips. But this 2nd change I think was a bad move, so that could explain any recent problems producers would have with making money. The site just seems clumsy unless I'm mistaken, but I see that they've now arranged it so that it's by only the recently updated, which by the look of the list that comes up I suspect is not a full list if you haven't looked for the last 3 days. Not to mention that the part below that shows new studios, which isn't correct. Not only that but if you mouse over the new stores it doesn't give an accurate last updated date. So basically unless clips4sale is planning on updating this new system so it's better, clips4sale just basically fucked their own site up.
 
Well myself I'm really picky, and so I don't buy from most of the producers, but I do prefer clips4sale over a recurring monthly fee. I have however subscribed to sites in the past and just got what I wanted from them and then cancelled my membership.

Just today I noticed that clips4sale has updated it's look twice in 2 months. The first change was a great move in that they made it so that only stores with tickling would come up and if you opened one of those stores it would have it preset to just show that stores tickling clips. But this 2nd change I think was a bad move, so that could explain any recent problems producers would have with making money. The site just seems clumsy unless I'm mistaken, but I see that they've now arranged it so that it's by only the recently updated, which by the look of the list that comes up I suspect is not a full list if you haven't looked for the last 3 days. Not to mention that the part below that shows new studios, which isn't correct. Not only that but if you mouse over the new stores it doesn't give an accurate last updated date. So basically unless clips4sale is planning on updating this new system so it's better, clips4sale just basically fucked their own site up.

I think you're right. My sales have basically died this month..in the space of a couple of weeks they've gone from great to terrible and I'm having to think seriously about how I can go on without making a massive loss :(

It's not just my sales but the traffic on my store is down overall since the start of April. Having looked at the 'new' C4S layout, I now see that my store is almost impossible to find. It doesn't show up anywhere except under the alphabetical store listing. Other sites have ad listings and many are listed under the 'New Stores' section even though they have been around since 2006/7! I've emailed C4S to ask about this but I don't expect any reply...I guess it's just luck of the draw, but if anyone can shed any light on how I can get my site in the listings please let me know as this...new system is going to finish me off at this rate! :dropatear
 
I think you're right. My sales have basically died this month..in the space of a couple of weeks they've gone from great to terrible and I'm having to think seriously about how I can go on without making a massive loss :(

It's not just my sales but the traffic on my store is down overall since the start of April. Having looked at the 'new' C4S layout, I now see that my store is almost impossible to find. It doesn't show up anywhere except under the alphabetical store listing. Other sites have ad listings and many are listed under the 'New Stores' section even though they have been around since 2006/7! I've emailed C4S to ask about this but I don't expect any reply...I guess it's just luck of the draw, but if anyone can shed any light on how I can get my site in the listings please let me know as this...new system is going to finish me off at this rate! :dropatear

I think they have cocked up the categorised pages. If you look at the front page with all categories showing, there are dozens of recently updated stores showing along with a control to display the next page of information. On a specific category page, e.g. tickling, you get less than 2 dozen recently updated sites and no control to display the next page of information.

This must be costing them money too if they are taking 40%!

Yes, the new layout looks good but it just doesn't work and it is the poor producers who are missing out. Stores were much easier to find when there was just a long list of stores in order of most recently updated in a scrolling window.

Lets hope they see sense (and the drop in profits) and change to something more functional.

S
 
I think they have cocked up the categorised pages. If you look at the front page with all categories showing, there are dozens of recently updated stores showing along with a control to display the next page of information. On a specific category page, e.g. tickling, you get less than 2 dozen recently updated sites and no control to display the next page of information.

This must be costing them money too if they are taking 40%!

Yes, the new layout looks good but it just doesn't work and it is the poor producers who are missing out. Stores were much easier to find when there was just a long list of stores in order of most recently updated in a scrolling window.

Lets hope they see sense (and the drop in profits) and change to something more functional.

S

I've spoken with the folks at the top, and they are of the opinion that things are fine. They are fine tuning the changes, but feel that they will make it easier for customers. They also have gotten largely favorable feedback. So, take that as you will. At this stage, I don't know if these changes are impacting on our own C4S sales. We'll continue to watch and see. It might simply be a bad slump for us on C4S(albeit the worst we've ever seen). Fortunately, C4S is only one of several outlets, and not even the top outlet. I know that is not necessarily the case with a number of other producers, and a slump hits the, hard.
LGZ
 
I'm freaking out here too! In the three years I have been on clips4sale, I have never seen such a bad month as this one. I e-mailed them and they said everything is running fine.

If there are other outlets better than clips4sale, please share!
 
I'm freaking out here too! In the three years I have been on clips4sale, I have never seen such a bad month as this one. I e-mailed them and they said everything is running fine.

If there are other outlets better than clips4sale, please share!

We make more selling directly through our website and using free advertising on forums and video sites like dailymotion and youtube. We also still make money on DVDs, which does not seem to be the case with a lot of other companies. I think that has more to do with our product. It's theme and story oriented, and I think that encourages customers to buy an actual DVD. Particularly when our videos tend to be longer than average. We also sell at comic and scifi shows. Again, do to the nature of our videos, there is a market. We've tried clips.com, but they were abyssmal. Did little or no advertising, repeatedly screwed up payouts, and took 60% versus C4S's 40%. Haven't tried any of the streaming sites, but it seems counter productive. People streaming a couple minutes here and a couple there with no ownership.
I don't see it working for us, but we may try it and see.
LGZ
 
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wow... we went from about 20 to 30 sales a week to less... we haven't made a sale since March!
 
wow... we went from about 20 to 30 sales a week to less... we haven't made a sale since March!

Yeah. Well, C4S thinks things are ok. Maybe there has been a shift in sales, and a core group is still making money, so it looks ok to C4S, but I suspect that will only last so long. There has to be rotation or the law of diminishing returns will slowly undercut sales. Unfortunately, by the time the lag in sales catches up to C4S a number of producers may pack it in or customers may wander away, confused at the new site layout.
LGZ
 
Hi guys,
I got a message back from Don in the 'traffic support' team last night basically saying all would be sorted in the next few hours (sounded unlikely!) Well, they have made some improvements - on the category page it now has a much longer listing of updated stores, so it isn't just the 'New' stores that dominate the page. My store also appeared in the top stores link on the left side (previously seemed attached to certain stores) one of my clips even appeared in the top clips. The scrolling list, definitely worked better but at least this is better than listing only the 10 most recently updated stores as they were doing!

Hopefully, this will help pick sales up. No doubt the system they introduced was benefitting those stores fortunate enough to be permanently pasted to the front pages but it's clearly been at the expense of the rest of us! :(

I asked about the small ads on the right hand side too. Apparently they'll be rolled out as paid-for advertising in a month. Those stores lucky enough to be listed there already are apparently 'test stores' that clips4sale work with - again, this sounds very unlikely but what can you do?
 
Sales are terrible.. I'm having to postpone/cancel shoots with new models because I don't feel like taking a huge loss.
 
Sales are terrible.. I'm having to postpone/cancel shoots with new models because I don't feel like taking a huge loss.


Glad to see that I'm not the only one to see a horrible month of sales. The last few months have been much lower than average, but this month is the worst I've seen in years. I also wonder if our small market has truly just gotten over saturated, and if that is having an impact as well.

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