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[the_Baron]

if you had to leave the U.S. and settle in another country - which one would you choose?

[the_Baron]

i think i would choose Spain. its beautiful; i can get along with the language; and it has nice weather most of the year.

[The Sean Man]

Australia...I've always wanted to go someplace away from the madness infecting the rest of the world. And a country that started as a penal colony for criminals and cutthroats sounds perfect:)

The Sean Man

:happyfloa

[ShiningIce]

Canada

[Roseblossom]

lovely cool Canada, in a fairly low-populated area.

[Flatfoot]

If I was single, I'd say Malta. I went there while I was on ship in May, and I gotta say, the women outnumber the men 8 to 1, and they are ALL gorgeous! Plus, they LOVE Americans! I really want to go back to that place!

[the_Baron]

my father's cruise will be stopping in malta this june.

[Haltickling]

I'm no American, so sorry to intrude... ;)

But if circumstances dictated that I had to emigrate from my beloved Bavaria, I'd go either to Edinburgh/Scotland or Capetown/South Africa. Melbourne/Australia would also be worth pondering.

Any idea why there are so many more women in Malta? I'll tell you: No jobs in Malta, all the men have to work abroad (many in Libya, Ghaddafi owns a third of Malta). It's a barren, sunburnt rock with very little green, but a lot of churches and nice restaurants! :cool:

[Flatfoot]

It's funny you mention that. When we were there, there was a Libyan Airport, shopping district, and clubs that were off-limits.

[leafstk]

Originally posted by Roseblossom
lovely cool Canada, in a fairly low-populated area.

We'd love to have ya! :D We could use some more like-minded people around here, lol

[The Sean Man]

Since I live across the river from Sarnia, Ontario, I'll throw in my two cents on Canada. The best thing about it? The people. I have yet to meet a "bad" canadian. Everyone is friendly beyond belief. And not to knock the US, but people in Canada just want to have a good time, and it doesn't matter who you are, what race you are, what kind of music you listen to, etc., etc. I know that a trip over the river will be a GUARENTEED good time with no hassles from anybody around me.
And those gorgeous Canadian women? Be warned....make a move on a canadian woman, and be prepared to back up your talk:)

The Sean Man


:happyfloa

[Neutron]

Of course. or England.

SEan you have it wrong. Oz was not started as a colony for criminals and cut throats. It's a product of the English Penal system on the 1700s where stealing was a worse crime than kidnapping or rape. Stealing was a hanging offense.
The only person who could pardon a thief was the King.
Many people did not want an execution on their hand, so even if a thief stole above the execution amount they'd accuse them of just below. That way hanging was not the immediate sentence.
In these cases the thief would be put on rotting Brit warships. At the time England had no real jails.

Finally to alleviate this they started using Oz as a Penal colony. New Zealand was the original pick but the natives were a bit more rambunctious so Oz it became.

The original Australian "criminals" were in reality petty one time thieves, usually men or women who had stole food. In fact they were authorized to work for money for a few hours a day.

A great book on this is The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes. It might be the best history ever written and gives a fascinating look into the English Penal system of the day,

By the way. Ship captains who didn't treat the inmates decently might very well find themselves as a member of the colony.

Eventually Australia was where the Irish Political prisoners were sent.

The first crime committed on Australian soil was a rape.

Tron

[milagros317]

Not having been very good at learning other languages even when I was young, it would have to be an English speaking country. And there aren't many of those where professional baseball is played, so I think it would be Australia. (With no offense to our Canadian members, it is just too ^^%$#ing cold in the winter up there.) :D

[leafstk]

LOL Sean Man, ain't that the truth! Thanks for the kind words too, I love being Canadian. We're a friendly bunch. And Milagros, it sure as ^$#% IS cold right now!! LOL *beers all around*

[The Sean Man]

Thanks for the heads up. It just goes to show ya, don't get your history lessons on countries from stand up comedians:rolleyes:


The Sean Man

:happyfloa

[The Sean Man]

I'm serious! Go to many clubs in the US, and you get attitude from everybody. Canada? Like I said, people there just want to have a good time. I've partied with more complete strangers in Canada than I can count. Doesn't matter if their life is in complete disarry and they're unemployed and miserable....when it's time to party, it's like nothing else matters. That's a great attitude to have:)

The Sean Man

:happyfloa

[giggleygirl25]

i think i'd say that if i moved anywhere it'd be England,Scotland,Ireland or Australia...or Germany or Japan (if i took the time to learn the language)...and nearly forgot...Canada...it's a nice place,nice people...good music

[MrMacphisto]

I'd either move to Ireland or Norway

[red indian]

.......dont get your history lessons from Tronny either, he is very selective, but not always in directions you might expect.

I know I am not supposed to be on this thread and no doubt I will get an E mail warning me off, but for me it has to be the U.S. if I am really honest. I have a villa in spain and a lovely cottage in one of the remote areas of the U.K. but as jazz musician most of my life how can i fail to be a U.S. fan. I have spent a large part of my life listening to and reading about American music, and of course a long time trying to play it. So I have spent time reading about the jazz greats performing in New York, Sanfransisco, Chicago and New Orleans.

I have spent so long as a teenager dreaming about places like "The Royal Roost" "The Blue Note" "Birdland" "Greenwich Village" " Jazz at the Phillharmonic" " Shellies Man Hole" " The Light House" " The five deuces" "Apollo Theater" "Birds nest Club" "Mintons" "Fifty Second street" " Famous Door" " Down beat club"......you get the idea....

So keep your wits about you, I am headed stateside very soon, just as soon as I get clearance from the mods.

[Moses25]

Originally posted by The Sean Man
I have yet to meet a "bad" canadian. hehe ahahahahah hahahahahahahaa HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! :firedevil
(it's mostly for show, though)
And those gorgeous Canadian women? Be warned....make a move on a canadian woman, and be prepared to back up your talk:) You better believe it!! They're tough!!

Cheers.:D

[Neutron]

Historian I know.

Hughes wrote the best history of early Australia. The problem with many Aussies is they're embarrassed about their "government man" past so no one ever bothered to write a decent history, until Hughes did it, and he had to be cajoled into it by a yank.
Outside of The Fatal Shore I think the best Aussie history is An Exiles Lament by Malcolm Clark. I'm not sure it's a history because he was a penal colonist writing things as they happened. It's written in Olde English so at times it's difficult to follow, but it's very good.

As for Canada :). Gotta love a country where escorting is legal, but body slides aren't!! LOL. All in all it's a great country. I LOVE Windsor and Yonge Street in Toronto.


Oh if anyone is ever in Toledo I just found out, a place called Lorains offers tickling. I found it out from an ex Lorains gal I tickled today.


Tron

[Mimi]

Ireland or Scotland.

Mimi

[leafstk]

Originally posted by Moses25
hehe ahahahahah hahahahahahahaa HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! :firedevil
(it's mostly for show, though) You better believe it!! They're tough!!

Cheers.:D

LOL... they sure are! By the way, have you seen the new I AM CANABIAN emails yet? Hilarious! :D

[MrMacphisto]

Interesting stuff you're mentioning about Australia... I used to think Australia was cool and exotic, until I read more about what they did to the Aborigines. I thought the European colonists and early Americans were shameful enough in their abuses toward the natives here, but the first European Australians were even worse in their treatment of the Aborigines. While most of what America's forefathers did to the Native Americans can be classified as neglect and heartless exile, the Australians engaged in outright and thorough slaughter of the Aborigines.... A shameful history indeed... (no offense to any current Australians, of course)

[Neutron]

Originally posted by MrMacphisto
Interesting stuff you're mentioning about Australia... I used to think Australia was cool and exotic, until I read more about what they did to the Aborigines. I thought the European colonists and early Americans were shameful enough in their abuses toward the natives here, but the first European Australians were even worse in their treatment of the Aborigines. While most of what America's forefathers did to the Native Americans can be classified as neglect and heartless exile, the Australians engaged in outright and thorough slaughter of the Aborigines.... A shameful history indeed... (no offense to any current Australians, of course)

Be careful what you say though. It wasn't "European" Australians who engaged in the wholesale slaughter of the Abos. England specifically forbade warfare on them. It was the second generation Aussies who started the genocide campaign.

Tron

[qjakal]

Just can't beat Toronto and vicinity for quality of life.

Q

[HisDivineShadow]

Japan or New Zealand

[kis123]

I'm not particularly picky, but.......


Anywhere that has warm, mild weather year-round,
Friendly people,
No income tax,
Respectful of privacy

Is an all right country with me:D

Is that Utopia or what?????

[crydun]

I'd pick either Spain or Germany. I've heard great stuff about both

[Knox The Hatter]

If not for the harsh weather, I'd have been in Canada now for quite some time...I had a wonderful time there in the brief time I stayed there as a teen, and I could see myself living there very easily!
I don't know if I could live in the UK on a permanent basis, but I could see myself there on an open ended one, that's for sure...

[desdemona]

Switzerland

Les CHuisses were kind enough in a cold sort of way. And with magnificent mountains and clean streets and air, it beats the polluted world in major metropolises over here.

[JoBelle]

I suppose I'd have to say the UK. Not for the simple fact that the language is almost the same. Hell, I have a southern accent, no one there would understand me anyway!

I've just always had an itch to see the UK. Feel a certain gravity toward the place. As far as choosing a particular type of living space...maybe some out of the way country town where history still lives.

Always fancied an Irish cliffside as well. *shrug*

Then there's always Greenland.

Jo

[milagros317]

Originally posted by JoBelle

Then there's always Greenland.

Jo

LMAO :p
I don't even like winters in NY City. The thought of Greenland ... BRRRRRRRRRRRR. :p

[phatteus]

Curacao in the Dutch Antilles.

I've never been there, but I'm sure it's lovely. Plus, it's Frrrrrrrrrrrreezing up here, so anywhere warm would be great!

[Krokus]

Japan. I am moving there soon anyhow, wish I was already there!

[tklgal226]

Australia!!! i love the accent, and im DYING to see a kangeroo!!!!!!! lol....hey, at least it's warm down there!!!!


~clair

[Ticklish9's]

Canada! No doubt about it... I love that place. I've spent many a weekend in Toronto, and the people impress me every time with their friendliness, their intelligence, and their government. And their beer. Ohhh, yes, their beer.... :D

Open-mindedness isn't just a catchphrase to pay lip service to, in Canada, either. Which I find quite nice.

[Cav88]

Canada, because I hear it's very similar to america, I've lived here all my life and I'm just to used to it here.

Other than that, I'd say the UK or Hong Kong.

[leafstk]

Originally posted by Ticklish9's
Canada! No doubt about it... I love that place. I've spent many a weekend in Toronto, and the people impress me every time with their friendliness, their intelligence, and their government. And their beer. Ohhh, yes, their beer.... :D

Open-mindedness isn't just a catchphrase to pay lip service to, in Canada, either. Which I find quite nice.

Thank God you didn't say no doot aboot it! LOL... it is a great place to live.... just not right now! We're gonna get over a foot of snow tonight!!! :eek:

[Knox The Hatter]

...and the people impress me every time with their friendliness, their intelligence, and their government. And their beer. Ohhh, yes, their beer....

Open-mindedness isn't just a catchphrase to pay lip service to, in Canada, either. Which I find quite nice.

My sentiments exactly. I remember I didn't want to leave. I even inquired about Landed Immigrant Status.
Here's something else that isn't just a catchphrase to pay lip service to: with Canadians, the Rule of Law is a fact! It's something they really believe in up there. Here in the United States, they talk about the Rule of Law, they pompously pontificate about it, but in fact, we have the rule of Men. Think about it.

[BigJim]

Originally posted by Neutron
The original Australian "criminals" were in reality petty one time thieves, usually men or women who had stole food.


Considering the status as landowners and sheep farmers that many of them rose to, they did a hell of a lot better than the ones who were sent to Wormwood Scrubs!!!

If I had to leave england, my destination would depend on what I wanted to achieve. If I wanted to blow my mind and enjoy the company of like-minded lunatics, it'd be the USA. If I wanted to escape the madness the world is descending into (sadly not an option, because I'm trying to do my bit in digging it out of it) then it'd be Oz or New Zealand. Many barefooted honeys! :D Being barefoot is almost a fashion statement in New Zealand.

[BigJim]

Originally posted by giggleygirl25
i think i'd say that if i moved anywhere it'd be England,Scotland,Ireland or Australia

Oh come to England my dear... :devil:


:p

[BigJim]

Originally posted by JoBelle
I've just always had an itch to see the UK. Feel a certain gravity toward the place. As far as choosing a particular type of living space...maybe some out of the way country town where history still lives.

Near a certain member's country cottage perhaps? :devil: :D :p

[BigJim]

Originally posted by Ticklish9's
Canada! No doubt about it... And their beer. Ohhh, yes, their beer.... :D


I have relatives who own a massive brewery in Canada. :D

[milagros317]

Originally posted by BigJim

If I had to leave england, my destination would depend on what I wanted to achieve. If I wanted to blow my mind and enjoy the company of like-minded lunatics, it'd be the USA.

Come to NY City, and you may fit right in; there are lots of lunatics here. :D

[BigJim]

Originally posted by milagros317
Come to NY City, and you may fit right in; there are lots of lunatics here. :D

Funnily enough Mil, there is a strong chance of me having a week's holiday to the US later this year. Myself and two or three friends are going to be going to Orlando for a lads vacation. Any of us who happen to be in that locality during that period would be a blast to hook up with.

[milagros317]

I will be flying to Forida on March 13, and flying back to NY City on March 19. Does that overlap your stay in Florida? I'll be in Vero Beach, about a 90 minute drive from Orlando. :D

[BigJim]

Originally posted by milagros317
I will be flying to Forida on March 13, and flying back to NY City on March 19. Does that overlap your stay in Florida? I'll be in Vero Beach, about a 90 minute drive from Orlando. :D

Sadly mate, I won't be in the country until October/November time. And that's always allowing the FBI hasn't given me the same classification as they did John Lennon for all my conspiracy posts. :D

[milagros317]

Acchhh, that's a long way off, 9 or 10 months. Too bad.

[BigJim]

Originally posted by milagros317
Acchhh, that's a long way off, 9 or 10 months. Too bad.

Ah, bugger it. Not to worry Mils, there'll be other times.

[JoBelle]

Jim Bob~

I live a skip and a hop around the bend from Orlando, well...compared to the 4000 miles across the ocean. I'd love to see you in a set of Mickey ears. LOL!

You know...if I'm not in some cottage somewhere. :p
Jo

[BigJim]

Originally posted by JoBelle
Jim Bob~

I live a skip and a hop around the bend from Orlando, well...compared to the 4000 miles across the ocean. I'd love to see you in a set of Mickey ears. LOL!

You know...if I'm not in some cottage somewhere. :p
Jo

:veryhappy Let's see what turns out then. :) One thing's for sure...

It's not gonna be a quiet holiday! :)

[areenactor]

i used to think australia, but they went crazy a few years ago.
i can't stand the sound of spanish being spoken, so not south of the rio grand. europe is all too cold, same with the english isles.
maybe one of the islands in the carabian, or the pacific. isreal is a tempting thought. i big factor will be weather, and being allowed to keep my fire-arms.
steve
p.s. this isn't a bash canada thread, so i won't go there.

[BigJim]

Originally posted by areenactor
isreal is a tempting thought.

I got something that you need to know, if you think you might want to go to Israel Steve. It won't be ready for a bit though.

[JoBelle]

I know 5 individuals who have spent time in Israel. Their time there ranges from 7-14 years. Everyone of them said they'd return....in spite of the political climate.

I found that to be VERY interesting...since only three of them are Jewish. I wonder what the allure is.

Jo

[crydun]

wellllllll, If I went to UK, at least I could meet BigJim, a dream of mine and a dream to look at. Dreamed I did just that on a UK book tour. I love that big teddy bear!

[natural tickler]

Greece

because the gyros is good there I hear:p and to see all the ancient ruins there:)

[giantfan121262]

Originally posted by natural tickler
Greece

because the gyros is good there I hear:p and to see all the ancient ruins there:)

Actually, I have been to the Greek Islands. They are to die for. Nice beaches and laid back lifestyle. Sounds great right about now

[BigJim]

Originally posted by crydun
wellllllll, If I went to UK, at least I could meet BigJim, a dream of mine and a dream to look at. Dreamed I did just that on a UK book tour. I love that big teddy bear!

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