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JPie1
03-30-2004, 10:33 PM
Personally I love George, he did a great motown song tonight, right up his alley....

he gets my vote!

qjakal
03-30-2004, 10:37 PM
Tough to vote against Fantasia...

Felt bad for the red headed kid tonight. He was so out of his "comfort zone". George , on the other hand, was better than I've ever seen him before, admittedly.
Q

JPie1
03-30-2004, 10:40 PM
not crazy about the redheaded kid even though he is from our area...I think he is the next one off..

Mimi
03-31-2004, 09:47 AM
I think the competition is going to come down to Fantasia, George, and LaToya as the top three. They are simply phenomenal. As for the one who I feel is going to win the whole contest this season: Fantasia. Don't get me wrong, I adore George. He's sweet, humble, and damn talented. But I think Fantasia's uniqueness is going to be the deciding factor.

As for who goes home next, I'm hoping to see Camille go home tonight. I have not liked her from the start, she puts on poor performances each week, and she is not even close to being in the same caliber as some of the others. She should have gone home last week instead of Matt. ARGH that ticked me off. I really liked him!

John Peter Lewis and John Stevens are two other it won't break my heart to see go. We'll see what happens tonight!

Mimi

giggleygirl25
03-31-2004, 09:56 AM
although i agree John Stevens was not very good last night i think Camille was alittle worse...i am hoping that J.S has at least one more week in him(it's a slim hope)...to me almost all of them sounded flat...except George,Amy,La Toya,Fantasia and Jasmine

JPie1
03-31-2004, 03:59 PM
John Peter Lewis and John Stevens are two other it won't break my heart to see go. We'll see what happens tonight!

I will agree with these 2 as well as Camille going, the others are all fairly talented...

I agree with your asessment of the final 3....Amy is a 50/50 shot to remain until close to the end..

natural tickler
04-01-2004, 12:14 PM
I am hoping Jennifer goes a long way because she from the hometown, and if she picks out the right songs, she can really show her talent. The problem with her is finding the right osngs for her. I do hope Camille is next, because you're right JPie, she has been terrible. I do agree that Matt should not have been kicked off this early:D

qjakal
04-01-2004, 12:17 PM
I think America is a bit tone deaf...

Wtf was up with the voting this week? LaToya and Jennifer in the bottom 3?

I think John Stevens KNEW he should have been there, and he looked embarassed the whole show, as well he should have. I like the kids voice, but he's a one trick pony and that isn't good enough for this competition.

Amy didn't deserve the boot, she's had 2 decent weeks in a row and has been showing improvement...damn shame when America gets it wrong like that and turns it into a popularity contest/joke.

Q

kis123
04-01-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by natural tickler
I am hoping Jennifer goes a long way because she from the hometown, and if she picks out the right songs, she can really show her talent. The problem with her is finding the right osngs for her. I do hope Camille is next, because you're right JPie, she has been terrible. I do agree that Matt should not have been kicked off this early:D

I'm glad to see that someone notices that Jennifer has great talent. She just has more voice than American Idol is used to. The judges nit-pick at her constantly and change their opinions of her every week. If she did some Patti Labelle or Jennifer Holiday, she'd be on the money. Even some Whitney (pre-drugs) because she has the range. I don't think she'll win, but she sure gets my vote.

Why is Camille still there? I'm mad because Matt got voted off last week and Jennifer nearly got voted off the week before because of her. She's not good for the competition and should go home. The red-haired kid had no business ever in the competiton, and the same for the so-called Elvis impersonator.

I know a lot of people like Fantasia, but she's too much like Macy Gray for my liking. Her voice is too sharp to my ears and it's hard for me to listen to. George on the other hand is great, but after the Clay-Ruben controversy, I doubt seriously if he'd win. But if someone doesn't snatch him up and give him a contract, every record company would be crazy!

There is my American Idol review for the week. See 'ya next time!:D

natural tickler
04-01-2004, 12:57 PM
It does seem that America is tone deaf, and its just a popularity contest. Maybe Jennifer does need to sing Patti Labelle songs:D

crydun
04-01-2004, 04:12 PM
I was upset that Amy got booted. She had a great personality and a great voice. The bottom three should have been Camille, Jon Peters and Jon Peter Lewis. None of them can sing.

Latoya, Diana, or Fantasia gets my vote for the win. I like George too.

The Sean Man
04-01-2004, 04:53 PM
There already is a winner. William Hung. No matter who officially wins this time, they are never going to match his popularity.

The Sean Man

qjakal
04-01-2004, 05:12 PM
I think The Sean Man has called it...lol. It's a funny world when being inept enough works out.
Q

JPie1
04-01-2004, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by crydun
I was upset that Amy got booted. She had a great personality and a great voice. The bottom three should have been Camille, Jon Peters and Jon Peter Lewis. None of them can sing.

Latoya, Diana, or Fantasia gets my vote for the win. I like George too.

I will totally agree with your top comments, Amy should not have got booted..I loved her, she is great, Camille, Jon Peters and Jon Peter Lewis have no business being there. I was totally surprised at Jennifer and especially Latoya getting in the bottom 3, so were the judges surprised..

My top 3 are George, Latoya and Jasmine. I am not crazy about Fantasia's style but she does have a damn good voice.

red indian
04-01-2004, 07:13 PM
.......please accept my deepest apologies for having infected your great and wonderfull country with our dreadfull trash T.V. shows. Long gone are the days when we were able to look down our noses at U.S. T.V. programmes. At one time our TV was the best in the world, informative, impartial, innovative, progressive, high quality. At one time it had the influence to be able to make all Brits better informed, better educated, more willing to listen to someone who has something worth saying.

But now, what has happened? our TV is now the same corrosive, contageous, poisonous influence that Macdonalds and Burger king is in the UK. Many of your new rubbish TV shows are Brit inventions, and I am very sorry about that.

I will do what I can to stop it.

The Sean Man
04-02-2004, 02:25 PM
As a lover of crap television.....

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

The Sean Man

kis123
04-02-2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by The Sean Man
There already is a winner. William Hung. No matter who officially wins this time, they are never going to match his popularity.

The Sean Man

Sad as it is to say, but I believe you're right. How did he ever get this popular? He was the worst candidate I ever saw and heard. I had to turn my tv during the tryout.:rolleyes:

The Sean Man
04-02-2004, 03:51 PM
I think it's because of this.....

Sure, everybody loves to make fun of someone who is out of their league during a performance. But sometimes one of these people truly doesn't care, and gives it their all....and once in a great while, people see that and will give it up for that person simply because they had the guts to do it at all.

I do announcing for our local hockey team, and each game starts, of course, with the national anthem sung by various volunteers. On one particular night, it was a small boy, perhaps 10 or 11. His performance was truly awful, I kid you not. He changed keys at least seven times, couldnt' hit the high notes, and forgot the majority of the words. But.....he KEPT GOING! When he finished, he got a standing ovation and wild applause. Sometimes guts DO count for something in this country.

As for William Hung? YOU GO, BOY!

The Sean Man

Mimi
04-03-2004, 10:49 AM
Argh, what the hell is wrong with the voting public this season?

Last season America got it right damn near every week. Every single week, the worst performance got voted off. It was pretty much predictable, but HONEST and fair. This season, it's ALL messed up. Camille is STILL there, and she should have been voted off two weeks ago already! The girl can not sing, and she looks like she is in pain every time she opens her mouth. She is another one trick pony, and can not pull off anything aside from her standard, monotone, smoking for 200 years frog in the throat singing. Blech.

John Peter Lewis and John Stevens are two others you gotta ask why they are still there. Are we the only people in America who are not tone deaf? We seriously can not be the only ones with our ears open wide enough to hear this guy can not sing hardly a note. And don't tell me it's his looks or personality keeping him in either, cause he's not much to look at, and Simon was right on when he said he had the personality of a pen salesman. Lets not even get into that string puppet herky jerky dance of his.

John Stevens...yeah, he's got a good voice, and perhaps he does have a future in singing.....but NOT in pop music, and NOT as the American Idol. As Q said, he has one style, and one style only. The American Idol should be capable of a wide range of diversity. John Stevens should be a lounge singer in Vegas.

This last weeks bottom 3 was a joke. Not ONE of them belonged in the bottom 3. America got it wrong last week when they voted off Matt, and they definitely got it wrong this week when they voted off Amy. I was honestly so mad I screamed when they said her name. She is bright, funny, witty, energetic, cute as hell, and has a wonderful voice.

I am quickly losing faith in this contest. All I can say is the voting public darn well better pull it's head (and ears) out of it's rear end soon, before this competition becomes a total and complete joke, and gets taken off the air. :sowrong: :sowrong: :sowrong:

Mimi

kis123
04-03-2004, 11:10 AM
Mimi:

I couldn't have said it better myself! So I must ask myself the question, WHY DIDN'T I?????????:D

JPie1
04-03-2004, 08:50 PM
mimi, I'm with you on every thing you stated. I loved Amy, she was fun, vivacious and good....Camile, John Stevens, and John Peter Lewis should have been off as well as Leah the 1st one they booted off. I don't think Amy and Matt would make it all the way to the end but they are way better then the ones mentioned.

The Sean Man
04-05-2004, 02:54 PM
Aside from ballot-box stuffing which cannot be prevented....many voters also vote not on the performance, but whether or not they like the person themself. People can get very catty.

The Sean Man

Prinny
04-06-2004, 12:09 AM
I am definiely with Mimi on her choices. Amy should not have been voted off. I was mad when I heard she was voted off. She nailed the Dixie Chicks song "Sin Wagon." I really hope she looks into going into country music because that is definitely her niche. John Stevens, he is great for the crooning but he ain't no Idol. John Peter Lewis, come on! Dancing around or standing still he still can't hold an in-tune note. LOL Camile does have the raspy voice going for her, but she is so uptight on stage and she has not found the niche that can totally fit her. She can do some blues & R&B but she has got to loosen up. I think Camile and John Stevens will be having a rough time this week. John Peter Lewis will possibly get by because of all the teeny boppers who like his look. Which, in my opinion (but it's just my opinion), is not very good. Ya know, he has more than once reminded me of a young Mark Hamill. Hmm... I gotta quit watching Star Wars so much. :D

Hugs and tickles,
Prinny

maniactickler
04-06-2004, 07:47 AM
my votes for william hung! i love that guy!

cs217903
04-06-2004, 11:14 PM
To be perfectly honest, I had never watched American Idol until tonight (because nothing else was on, and I was too lazy to find the remote and change the chanel). ANYWAYS......As a person who is a singer and has taken voice lessons, I have to say that the fact that these people are finalists makes me wonder about the integrity of the show. (Please no American Idol fans become offended at what I am about to say).
1) Tonight was "Elton John Night". How do they expect a bunch of amateurs like these kids to be able to sing songs by a master of the business? Bad choice on the producer's part. The only two I was impressed with was George and Jennifer (I think those are their names). One kid sang Crocodile Rock, and it was AWFUL!!!!! This kid had no energy on the stage.
2) Also, these kids have made it to the final nine contestants, and I must say that the rest of the people who tried out for this show must have royally sucked! A lot of them were flat, and they couldn't handle the range of notes the songs required. That's just ridiculous.

I apologize if any die hard American Idol fans were offended in the making of this post.

kis123
04-07-2004, 09:01 PM
They finally sent the right one home today! Camille's gone back to Hawaii. She's a decent singer, but not an American Idol by any means. You're right, I didn't get to see Elton John nignt yesterday, but I heard enough to say most of them sucked big time.

Tune in next week for the A. I. review by kis!:D

JPie1
04-07-2004, 09:18 PM
yes the did send the right one home, but they got the wrong bottom 3 again, I did not agree with the other 2 in the pick, it should have been Camille, John Peter Lewis and John Stevens. Elton is really tough to sing as was evident in last nights show. Most of them did not sing very good.

I am going for George for the win...I just love him, he is da bomb! Fantasia has a good voice but there is something that just doesn't hit me with her. Latoya has much more class and a great voice, Jasmine is good although last night wasn't her best. Jennifer rocked last night and Diana is good but not good enough till the end.

Next one off has to be John Stevens or John Peter Lewis!!!

Bring back Amy...I liked her!!

qjakal
04-08-2004, 02:41 PM
Never realized what a range his songs had until the other night...sheesh. Not a good showing but most people think this is the weakest group that the show has produced so far.

Bottom 3 was indeed wrong again...sigh...they need to get a handle on this problem. My wife suggested that they rework the format and have you vote for the person you'd like to see LEAVE rather than stay. Makes sense to me really.

Some good performances, but there's still quite a few weak contestants.

Still like Fantasia, and it's not her fault Macy Gray got popular first..lol.

Q

Mimi
04-09-2004, 12:11 PM
Yes, I was happy to see that Camille was finally sent home. She should have been sent home two weeks ago already, long before Matt or Amy were ever shown the door.

I also agree the bottom three were again wrong. Hopefully it will be just the one week, due to the fact both Diana and Jasmine were sick this week, and both had somewhat weak performances due to their illnesses. If they get back on their game this coming week, though, and display their standard talent, and STILL wind up in the bottom three for the next vote, them some people in America definitely need a spanking and a hearing aid.

As for most of them putting on rather sub-par performances this last week, that just has a lot to do with the fact they were all asked to perform Elton John songs. That is the biggest challenge they have faced yet. Eltons songs are extremely difficult to sing, for ANYONE. Even some of the top singers on the charts right now would have a hell of a time singing some of his songs. They are so wide in range, and really strain ones voice. Elton is an amazing artist to sing the songs he writes. It really shows his talent.

The one thing that kinda threw me off this last week though was the three groups. One group was the bottom group (Camille, Diana, and Jasmine), one group was the middle group, and one group was the top group. They never stated which was the top or the middle. I always thought Fantasia was the top vote getter, but she was in a group with John Stevens, and John Peter Lewis. Does that mean that John Stevens and John Peter Lewis are also raking in the top votes? If that is the case, I find that EXTREMELY disturbing. Both of them should be OFF the show, not ranking that damn high in votes. If they were the middle group, and George, LaToya, and Jennifer were the top group, then I am thrilled, but shocked that Fantasia dropped into the second group.

This season is truly messed up. It will be interesting, and possibly disappointing, to see how it all works out in the end. Hopefully america will get it right in the end.

My top vote still goes for either Fantasia or George though. I will be happy to see either of them win this season.

Mimi

JPie1
04-14-2004, 09:09 PM
ok this weeks show, alot better then last weeks Elton John fiasco. Now I have not been the ultra fan of Fantasia but she blew me away this week, definitely the best performance of the night. I still adore George even though this was not his best showing. I still say out with John Stevens and Jon Peter Lewis even though they sounded alot better then last week, I think John Stevens has the over 50 set voting for him! Diana might lose it also, she will not sustain until the end. I thought Latoya was awesome this week as was Jennifer. I say the top 4 as I see it right now, George, Latoya, Fantasia, Jennifer. I love Jasmine, she is so sweet but she doesn't have enough to go the distance either.

Mimi
04-14-2004, 10:03 PM
WOW, what a night!! They really came back from a poor week last week, to remind everyone again that they DESERVE to be in this contest, and it DOES serve a purpose! Bravo, contestants!

There is a clear line drawn between the 8 final contestants. I'm not sure how to voice this opinion without possibly offending someone, so just let me quickly say that what I am ABOUT to say is in no way intended to offend or upset anyone. I am a die hard believer in all races and people being created equally, and I respect every person walking this planet the same as the next, regardless of any racial, religious, political, or ethnic backgrounds.

That being said, I feel there is a visible and vocal line drawn between the lighter skinned contestants, and the darker skinned contestants. George, Fantasia, LaToya, and Jennifer are just in a totally different league than Diana, John, JLP, and Jasmine. Don't get me wrong...Diana, Jasmine, John, and JLP ARE all good singers, but they do not come even close to being in the same catagory as the other 4. I really believe this competition is going to come down to the 4 outstanding darker complexioned contestants. Week after week this season, those four continue to improve and increase the competitive space between the 8 finalists. Honestly, if ANY of the four of them win, I'll be happy. All 4 deserve a recording contract, right here, right now.

I was pissed at the judges tonight for their comments to George on his performance. I thought he was WONDERFUL tonight. He did a fantastic job, took a song totally out of character, made it his own, and pulled it off beautifully. I was so mad I was ready to go to fox.com and suggest they add a new phone line...one to vote the judges OFF the damn show. Blargh.

I was also pleasantly surprised by Quentin (sp?) tonight. When I first heard he was going to be a guest judge, I asked myself "What the hell does a movie director/actor know about music and singing? Why wouldn't they choose a singing professional to guest judge?" Boy was I wrong. After tonight, I'd honestly be thrilled if they brought him on as a full time judge! He was full of superb comments, praise, constructive critisizm, and quite frankly, did an even better job than the other 3 judges. He made tonights show even better.

Fantasia...WOW! OMG what a performance! That girl never ceases to amaze and astound me with her vocal abilities. By far her best yet, and one of the best performances I have EVER seen in any season of American Idol! Jennifer continues to improve weekly, and put on another breath-taking performance tonight. What power she has. I don't think I've ever heard anyone pull off a Whitney song so well...especially considering how tough it is to even attempt Whitney in the first place! As I already stated, I disagree with the judges concerning George. I thought he was great tonight. And LaToya blew everyone away again this week. She is another one that continues to improve and make people take notice. A phenomenal four.

Tonight WAS one of the better performances I have seen from both John Stevens and John Peter Lewis, but still not good enough to carry them through to the end. John Stevens was better because he was able to do a song in his own genre, and that is where he tends to shine most. He is not verstile enough to pull off anything else, but when he can perform good old lounge classics, he really is quite good. John Peter Lewis seems to do better when he can put on a good fast paced, up-beat performance. He had a bit of a rock edge to him tonight, and it suited him well. He did a nice job with it. However, that sporadic funky chicken dance of his has GOT to go. Lord that boy has no rhythm.

As much as I love both Diana and Jasmine (they are both so damn cute and innocent and bubbly and sweet), I am afraid they both may have put the nails in their coffins tonight. Neither of them put on their best performances, and as tight as the competition was tonight, they NEEDED to be on top of their games. I am pretty sure we will be saying goodbye to one of them tomorrow.

Hmmm...I think that sums up my analysis for tonight...LOL

Mimi :D

qjakal
04-14-2004, 10:15 PM
Fantasia was awesome indeed, but LaToya came to play tonight and wasn't far behind. She needs to get focused and find some material that let's her rip the roof off and show her voice. I always felt that was the reason Kelly Clarkson won...better choices weekly for songs makes a huge difference.

Jasmine needs to go if you vote strictly on this weeks performance, but on the other hand the Jo(h)ns shouldn't still be there at all...*shrug...all 3 will be gone before it's over if there's any justice anyway. The redhead will land a Vegas gig and a part in Quentins next movie, and JPL will end up on stage somewhere. Not sure if Jasmine has a spot in entertainment though. After the traditional touring show of course.

Better show, hope they keep it up.
Q

crydun
04-15-2004, 10:21 AM
Fantasia should win this competition. She can take ANY style of music and make it her own.

Next to go should be John Stevens or John Peter Louis. They suck week after week.

Latoya and Jennifer should round out the top 3

JPie1
04-15-2004, 08:43 PM
well I think they got the bottom 3 correct this week even though I think Diana is adorable, maybe in another couple of years she'd be better but she is not able to keep up with the top pack. I thought John Stevens should have been the one ousted tonight but Jon Peter Lewis had to go soon too.

Mimi, you read my mind exactly, but I was thinking I didn't want to cross lines as I am in no way a judgemential person as to color, religion, orientation, I am very open minded but the top contenders to this competetion are the African Americans, they have put them selves way ahead....

giggleygirl25
04-16-2004, 12:45 AM
i was surprised abit by the bottom 3 considering that John Stevens actually did have a good week this week...he did well and simon is right about him...his age is a factor, but as with anything good he'll age...i really thought diana was gonna go before either of the johns, she just comes off really cutesy to me...younger than herself,ermmm i'll edit this once i figure out what i'm trying to say about her.

JPie1
04-20-2004, 09:14 PM
ok, tonights show was very good. I was a little disappointed in my personal fav - George, but I still say its time to oust John Stevens, I just can't stomach this dude. All the gals were great, this is going to come down to the woman on the show...but I still love George, he is just great.

giggleygirl25
04-20-2004, 10:35 PM
i'm gonna miss John Stevens,although i think he represented WNY very well...i'm glad he was able to stick it out for as long as he did(although i'd like to see diana degarmo go first,but oh well)and i'm happy that he showed buffalo in a different light...not the chicken wing eatin, football crazed city but as a place with diverse talents:)

Mimi
04-21-2004, 09:53 AM
Yes, the girls were wonderful this week...all 5 of them put on amazing powerhouse performances. Bravo ladies, bravo.

I DO adore George, and I was very disappointed that he did not put on a very good performance last night. I REALLY hope it does not hurt him in tonights results show. I wanna see George go through to the last 2-3 weeks at least. John Stevens started his performance good last night, but then just petered out half way through it. I understand why though...for one, Mandy is a very difficult song to sing, and secondly, John is not known as one of the powerhouses, and that song requires a good bit of power when you kick into the final chorus.

I guess I would predict and expect John Stevens to leave tonight. If anyone else gets voted off, I will be very surprised.

Mimi

JPie1
04-21-2004, 09:08 PM
I was totally, totally shocked by tonights results. When they brought George down I thought he went to the correct group. How Fantasia, Latoya and Jennifer ended up in the bottom group when it should have been the exact opposite is beyond me. Jennifer should not have been voted out. It should have been John Stevens, Diana or Jasmine. Once again I love George but he did not give his best performance last night. This time the voters proved they did not really listen to the singers...

Mimi
04-21-2004, 09:39 PM
Total, complete, utter, mind-blowing, sickening, unreal...

BULLSH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell is WRONG with some of the people calling and voting this year? I have watched Idol from the very first season, and I have never been as sickened and disgusted as I am this year. Is 90% of america tone deaf?! Jennifer Hudson was/IS the second coming of Aretha Franklin. There is no way in HELL she should have been voted off tonight. And for that matter, neither Fantasia nor LaToya should have been in the bottom 3 with her! The three strongest and best singers in this competition, and they get the least votes. Something is seriously wrong with that.

While I was relieved that George wound up being safe after his lackluster performance last night, I am still so stinking mad and frustrated and disturbed at this weeks voting results. Why the hell is John Stevens still on there? How did he get more votes than Jennifer, Fantasia, and LaToya? Why is that clown still in the competition? Who on Gods green earth is VOTING for that guy?

All I can say right now to sum up my foul mood and disappointment is #1) Jennifer better have a recording contract from SOMEONE by the end of this week, and #2) America had DAMN well better unplug their ears, pull their heads out of their asses, and vote for the stinking TALENTED singers next week. ARGH!

Mimi :sowrong: :sowrong: :sowrong: :sowrong:

natural tickler
04-21-2004, 09:47 PM
I feel your pain, Meems, as we are very disappointed as well, but we have learned in this contest is you don't have to win to have a successful career:D

qjakal
04-21-2004, 09:48 PM
I think we're seeing some hacking, personally. It strikes me as the type of thing a few acquaintances of mine in that genre would think of as "funny". With the perfected dialers from computer setups that are available now they could probably swing it without too much effort, especially since both of them have a few hundred "slave" computers that they've bugged without the owners knowledge....

Jennifer had some spotty early performances, but there's no way any of those 3 should have been standing there.

We may have to call Venray in on this...sigh.

:sowrong: Q

giggleygirl25
04-21-2004, 10:21 PM
i was really stunned by what happened tonight...although i guess i shouldn't have been, i think paula abdul was right the girls that voted for jon peter lewis jumped ship once he was out and started voting for john stevens, but not to worry i'm sure that it won't happen next week and that he will be going home soon...although i do have to say that out of the 3 "divas" i think jennifer was the one with the weakest voice and La Toya has the best...but that's my opinion.

Mimi
04-21-2004, 10:43 PM
I just tried visiting the official American Idol forums to see what was up over there, and man, I wish I hadn't. What a joke.

Several hundred fans are trying to turn tonights results into a race war, and as ANTI-prejudice as I am, I really do not feel that was a factor. Another 100,000+ people are teeny-bopper John Stevens freaks who are all attempting to conspire together to make JS the winner of this competition, and calling everyone who disagrees with them, or anyone who says anything factual about Johns lack of talent, a 'poopie head' or some such infantile nonsense. And another 1/3 are declaring a boycott on Idol and all it's sponsors for tonights outrage. *shakes head* As upset as I am, I am nowhere near the fanatical state some of these people are. If this group is represting the voting American public, I can see WHY things are so screwed up.

One topic I see being repeated occassionally though, I DO strongly agree with. And that is that Fox should change it's voting system. Either limit the votes to one vote per household per night, or, better yet, make the weekly vote for who you want to LEAVE, not stay. With several incredible singers this season, it's nearly impossible to choose just one and focus all your votes on them alone. And then the others you really like wind up suffering. If they changed the voting system to a 'vote to see who leaves', I think the results would be a lot more clear. You wouldn't have people who felt forced to vote for their favorite underdog to keep them on, figuring that the best ones will be safe (which is what I honestly think happened tonight...a lot of people figured Jennifer, Fantasia, and LaToya would be safe, and therefore voted for George or Diana or Jasmine in an attempt to keep them on). You could just pick the one you felt no longer belongs in the competition, and vote to get them off the show. Survivor a la American Idol, if you will.

I don't know if even THAT is a solution, but honestly something has got to be done. And quick, before the viewers over on the official AI forum begin weilding machine guns.

Mimi

He-Man
04-22-2004, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by Prinny
John Peter Lewis will possibly get by because of all the teeny boppers who like his look. Which, in my opinion (but it's just my opinion), is not very good. Ya know, he has more than once reminded me of a young Mark Hamill. Hmm... I gotta quit watching Star Wars so much. :D



You mean JPL plays the voice of a pyschotic killer clown on an action cartoon, too? lol (damn I'm gonna miss Mark Hamill as the Joker...unless they have more episodes of Justice League with him..since that new "The Batman " cartoon will be different than The Animated Series)

kis123
04-22-2004, 02:05 PM
Mimi;

I agree with almost everything you've been saying. I no longer have interest in AI. People are basically stupid and I thought this John Lewis person should've never been part of the competition to begin with!

But, I'm in agreement that race plays a part in this, even if it's a small part. I've been watching the show since the beginning and after the Tamyra Gray mess and the Reuben-Clay scandal, I don't think American Idol voters are willing to allow any more African-American winners any time soon. How else can that John Peter Lewis guy still be there and Jennifer go home?

I always thought Jennifer was the better female singer even with the rocky start. The judges nit-picked her to death in the beginning. First, they told her she sings too loud, then when she sofened it up, they told her she wasn't passionate enough in her performance. They have been very hard on her for no reason except she has an exceptional voice, but it is not a typical pop music voice. Everyone likes Fantasia, but her voice is too sharp on my ears. Latoya's voice is okay. I still think Jennifer was the one. She reminds me of a young Jennifer Holliday with some Aretha Franklin and Whitney Houston (pre-drugs).

American Idol's loss is going to be some record company's gain. She'll have an album out before AI even picks a winner. In the meantime, voters really need to get their heads out of their rear ends and vote for the ones who have talent, not the ones they may think are cute. This show is turning into a bad joke like the rest of reality TV shows.

Mimi
04-22-2004, 03:55 PM
I still don't think race is playing a role (not at this point yet, anyway. I could be proven wrong in weeks to come, and if I am, I will have totally lost respect for AI and everyone associated with it), considering Jennifer was the first one of the darker skinned contestants to be kicked off. Up until last night, only caucasians were voted off, and the darker skinned competitors were by far in the lead (which they should be, considering they are the most talented ones in the contest).

Otherwise I agree with you on every point, Kris. John should have been out long ago, and definitely should have been gone before Jennifer left. She has more talent in her pinky finger than he can ever dream of having. She was one of my favorites, and words can not even begin to express my disappointment in her removal from the competition.

And yes, voters really need to straighten up and vote for the REAL talent on the show. AI is quickly turning into an MTV broadcast gone bad.

Mimi

JPie1
04-22-2004, 04:36 PM
I agree with all the above, I think voting a person off instead of voting for fav's will be the better system. I can't explain what happened this week but I was totally dissappointed. This is really the 1st season I watched and can't believe who America is voting for. John Stevens has very little talent compared with Jennifer...she was great and had alot more then voice, John has nothing, no voice, no charisma and he does look like Stan Laurel!!

rajee
04-22-2004, 04:47 PM
:D I predict George to be America's favorite and George will beat Diana in the finale. :D

Mimi
04-27-2004, 09:53 PM
Well, here it is, a new week in the American Idol saga.

I knew tonight was gonna be a difficult one to sit through long in advance, due to it being Gloria Estefan night. All of her music is latin pop, and lets be frank, latin pop is NOT a doable genre for most of the contestants on the show. Hell, 99% of the population would not be able to get out a full chorus of a latin pop song without missing half the notes and busting a button or two on their shirt.

I honestly felt sorry for the contestants tonight, and while none of them put on stellar performances, I felt most did their best under the circumstances. Fantasia and George, my two favorites to this point, were both a bit off tonight, not that I can blame them. They both chose hard songs, and gave it their best shot. I do feel George did MUCH better than the judges gave him credit for, though. Given the genre, I thought he did pretty damn good. LaToya hung in there the best she could vocally, but really stepped up her performance with her wonderful dancing.

Jasmine picked a song that HAD a lot of potential, and she did do most of it beautifully, but she was off key quite a bit and unfortunately, fell a bit short.

John Stevens...well, lets not even go there. That was so horrible it was PAINFUL to listen to. If he does not go this week, then there is definitely some sort of conspiracy going, I tell ya.

Diana was actually my favorite tonight. I knew she was probably gonna be as soon as I learned it was Gloria Estefan night. Latin pop was a bit of a stretch, even for her, but she did the best job of the 6 finalists. She picked a great song, put a lot of energy into it, and showed off vocally. And I happened to think her dress was lovely. Simon has no damn taste.

Does Gloria every age? The woman is around 50 years old, and looks younger than I do at 30. I wanna know her secret.

Mimi :D

P.S. I've alerted everyone in the mainstream forum that they REALLY need to tune into American Idol each week for the amount of tickling content that makes it's way into the show via Simon and Paula. Almost every night the show is on those two are at it. Someone needs to email Simon the url for this website. I think it may be right up his alley...lol

giggleygirl25
04-27-2004, 10:11 PM
maybe John will be right for this competition in a couple of years...it's hard to dismiss someone that has potential like he does,but he'll land on his feet...he has a very strong family from the looks of it and he'll be just fine...seems odd that William Hung gets a record deal and John Stevens is considered the worst thing to hit the music scene since disco duck **shrugs**

JPie1
04-28-2004, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Mimi


Diana was actually my favorite tonight. I knew she was probably gonna be as soon as I learned it was Gloria Estefan night. Latin pop was a bit of a stretch, even for her, but she did the best job of the 6 finalists. She picked a great song, put a lot of energy into it, and showed off vocally. And I happened to think her dress was lovely. Simon has no damn taste.

Does Gloria every age? The woman is around 50 years old, and looks younger than I do at 30. I wanna know her secret.

Mimi :D

P.S. I've alerted everyone in the mainstream forum that they REALLY need to tune into American Idol each week for the amount of tickling content that makes it's way into the show via Simon and Paula. Almost every night the show is on those two are at it. Someone needs to email Simon the url for this website. I think it may be right up his alley...lol

Mimi,

No Gloria never seems to age, I love her. I see her and the Miami sound machine when they were 1st getting popular at Yankee Stadium. This was a hard week for the contestants, I love George but he needs to get back to a really good performance. I also thought Diana was the best of the night. I like her, she is sweet, perky and fun to watch, plus with a little ripening she is going to be amazing. I think Latoya will take this. John has to go NOW!!

And I do love the interaction between Simon and Paula!

qjakal
04-28-2004, 01:01 PM
What IS with that? Are they dating or something?

Hey, Jon Stevens tried, but it's just not happening. He'll be a great lounge singer and probably have a fine career in music, but NOT as an American pop idol.

Diana definitely had the best night, which means she'll be in the bottom 3 given the way this years voting has gone.

I thought LaToya was strong as well...

Hopefully they'll redefine the voting process before the next version.

Q

JPie1
04-28-2004, 09:10 PM
well they finally got it right this week, although George should have sat down before jamsine. I think Jasmine should go next. I think Diana was awesome this week and I liked they way she looks...! She is adorable, as is Jasmine but I think she should be next. Its getting down to the wire folks..

giggleygirl25
04-28-2004, 10:21 PM
well despite everything that's been said about him John Stevens remained poised and sweet...and hopefully will get something out of his experience...i'll miss him

JPie1
04-29-2004, 07:23 AM
yes he was all that, he seemed like a real good character. Hopefully with a little age and some singing lessons he will do real well. Simon was right he took every bullet and he did it with grace.

Mimi
04-29-2004, 10:25 AM
I'm sorry Giggley, I did not mean to come across that way. John is in no way a BAD singer...in fact, when singing in his genre, he is quite gifted. The problem with him is merely that he is a one trick pony, and not diverse enough to be the new American Idol. He will likely have a very successful music career within his own style...that style simply is not pop. Of the 6 finalists left, he was the least compatible to be the Idol, which is why I felt he had to be voted off. But it was certainly not because I feel he has no talent at all.

Yes, America DID finally get it right this week. I got scared seeing George in the bottom 3, and then in the bottom 2, but I do have to admit that based on Tuesday nights performances, LaToya, Fantasia, and Diana had the three best performances, and deserved to be the top 3. John, George, and Jasmine were the three lower caliber singers this week.

I agree Jasmine should be the next to go now. She is cute as hell, and has a wonderful voice, but she needs a bit more practice and training in voice control to maintain her pitch before striking out on the singing career I have no doubt she'll enjoy eventually.

It will be interesting to see where all of the teeny boppers will be placing their votes now with John gone. He had an extremely strong following among the younger viewers, and they will likely be making their presence known with support for someone else now. Probably either Diana or Jasmine.

I'm still rooting for either Fantasia or George to win this competition. If either one of them bring it all home, I'll be happy.

Mimi

crydun
04-29-2004, 10:34 AM
I predict that Fantasia, Latoya and Diana will be the top 3. I think Fantasia will win.

giggleygirl25
04-29-2004, 10:47 AM
i'm sorry, i just get overly sensitive sometimes...it really wasn't directed at you Mimi...just an overall frustration with "pop" music. i just don't understand how a person that has admitted he can't sing(William Hung) gets a record deal and john stevens although probably not right for the brittney/timberlake type pop music that seems so prevelant today

kis123
04-29-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by giggleygirl25
i'm sorry, i just get overly sensitive sometimes...it really wasn't directed at you Mimi...just an overall frustration with "pop" music. i just don't understand how a person that has admitted he can't sing(William Hung) gets a record deal and john stevens although probably not right for the brittney/timberlake type pop music that seems so prevelant today

As far as John Stevens is concerned, there is bad news and good news. The bad news first: he didn't fit in as a pop singer and is appropriately voted off of Am Idol. He had to go, there was no other obvious choice. He simply doesn't have the voice for it.

Now, for the good news. John Stevens came to idol a teenage boy, and left as a matured young man with prospects and hopes for a future career in entertainment. He's able to accept criticism without a meltdown, which is extremely important to him having a future in the business. Too many divas and prima donnas in this business as it is. He has a glowing future somewhere. Maybe he'll carve his own niche.

JPie1
05-05-2004, 09:06 PM
I am soooo sad, I absolutely loved George!!! it should have been Jasmine this week...ugghhhh. I agree that they had the bottom 2 right, but I adored George, he is so charming and I love his smile. I could envision him under my tickling fingers!

kis123
05-05-2004, 10:27 PM
I'm sorry, but American Idol is a pure scam!

George has one of the best voices in the competition. Jasmine should've been voted off a long time ago. They just don't want to upset the folks in Hawaii. They made a bad choice. I've all but lost complete interest in the show. American Idol sucks!!!!!!!:sowrong:

Mimi
05-05-2004, 10:35 PM
I was EXTREMELY disappointed to see George go tonight. George and Fantasia are/were my two favorites, and there were other contestants that should have left before George did. He is an awesome singer.

Tonight should have been Jasmine's night to go. She's a good singer, but there's no pizzazz (sp?) with her. She's too sweet and typical. George added a unique and enjoyably flavor to the competition, and I know the upcoming weeks will be that much less enjoyable without him.

All I can say now is I hope Fantasia wins. And I hope we have not seen the last of George Huff.

Mimi

giggleygirl25
05-05-2004, 10:48 PM
i'm gonna miss George, i liked him and i liked his performance last night...and i know i'm in the minority but i didn't like La Toya's performances last night...they just didn't interest me at all, i thought she kinda screamed her first song...fantasia did okay, i guess i'm not into the two divas as much as the rest of the country. i'm sure it's not the last of george huff somebody will sign him up to a contract (i hope, if not then there is something seriously wrong with the music industry when talented singers don't get contracts and guys who are getting their 15 minutes of fame and cannot sing do get contracts...okay now i'll shut up:D ).

qjakal
05-07-2004, 10:31 AM
I wouldn't want to be standing in her group this week...think her time is officially up at this point.

George was indeed a nice guy, and you know they don't finish first, don'tcha? ;)

Q

EvlJester
05-07-2004, 05:25 PM
i always thought that american idol was stupid until i watched it for a bit then i found out that it is really stupid.

TicklishSinner
05-07-2004, 06:45 PM
Jester...be nice! you watched it for a whole 5 min...and on top of that im sure there are a few shows you watch that are just down right stupid lol

JPie1
05-11-2004, 09:14 PM
ok Jasmine goes this week, its her turn, personally she should have gone before George. I think Diana was the best of the night, then Latoya, then Fanatasia...

we shall see what the voting public does tomorrow..

Mimi
05-11-2004, 10:21 PM
I'm fully rooting for Fantasia now. I thought she was fantastic tonight (but then, when isn't she?), even though "Holding Out For A Hero" was not really a disco song...lol

I agree Jasmine should go now. It's not that I don't like her, it's just that the other three contestants are quite superior to her in terms of pitch, control, and over-all talent. I, too, would have liked to have seen her go before George, but there's nothing we can do about that now aside from hoping George gets the recording contract he deserves.

I do really like both LaToya and Diana, but for some reason, they just don't hold my attention and make me wanna jump up and bust a move the way Fantasia does. Both are great singers..Diana is as cute as a button, and is so bubbly and energetic, not to mention has a voice and talent far beyond her 16 years...LaToya is beautiful and graceful and full of poise, and has an unbelievable amount of talent...but I get filled with an excitement when Fantasia hits the stage that I just don't feel when Diana and LaToya sing.

The next couple of weeks will be interesting indeed.

Mimi

giggleygirl25
05-11-2004, 10:47 PM
i agree with you Mimi...i think that like Simon Cowell said La Toya is good but she's boring...Fantasia is good, but really gets people into her songs(although i wasn't crazy about her last week, shrugs). i felt bad for jasmine but it's her time...and maybe diana will stick around for the final 2 or it might be the divas.

Prinny
05-12-2004, 01:02 AM
It's so difficult studying for midterms right now! Darn American Idol!

I feel bad for Jasmine. She knew she did bad and I think that's why she cried. I know she did her best and she does have a future down the road. However, I am hoping that her tears are not going to give her more votes and push one of the better singers off. It sounds cruel and mean, but I had to say it. She went for too much challenge in those songs that she selected. Yes, she can do the high notes, but she was having a really difficult time going up and down the scales. There were way too many wrong and flat notes in there. She tried to turn up the notch too much.

LaToya was great, but I wasn't pulled into her songs. Fantasia was great as well, but I thought her second song was weaker.

Diana was certainly the best performer of the night. She is definitely cute as a button, I have to agree. She has really improved over the competition. She has got an amazing voice with so much power. It would be great if she won. But I think LaToya or Fantasia will, unless something happens.

I think it might come down to who was consistent in their performances during the competition, and who made the most improvement. I do think that LaToya said it right when she said that it doesn't matter who wins, they will all get something out of it.

Toodles!
The Prinnmeister :D

kis123
05-12-2004, 12:51 PM
Although I thought Simon was exceptionally cruel to Jasmine yesterday, she does need to go. I did enjoy seeing her more aninmated and mixing it up with the audience. She took a big chance and unfortunately it didn't pay off. I think she needs some time for her voice to mature and to develop her talent. We'll see her again in a year or two.

I can appreciate those who like Fantasia, but I just don't. Her voice hurts my ears and grates my nerves. I'm sure she'll continue to do well, but I don't think she's the one. I do think either LaToya or Diana will win out in the long run.

I know, beat me up or send me the hate mail! But I feel the way I feel and I wouldn't vote on Fantasia. She may win, but I wouldn't buy her music. Her voice is just too sharp on my ears. I wish her well because she has a great personality and stage presence. All of them will get some kind of recording contract or singing opportunity.

crydun
05-12-2004, 12:53 PM
I think Jasmine should go home tonight.

I predict the final two will be Fantasia and Diana.

qjakal
05-12-2004, 10:48 PM
Must have the entire state phoning constantly...no other explanation for Jasmine not being sent home tonight. Don't grieve for LaToya, btw, I think she'll be signed before the end of the month to a record label. Still, a damn shame that the voting isn't reflective of the talent in the contest.

Q

kis123
05-12-2004, 11:05 PM
Well, welcome to American Idol, the land of the racist!

Does anyone still want to tell me that there isn't a conspiracy to keep another African american from winning the competition? Jasmine had the absolute worst performance of all the singers, yet she stays and Latoya who's always on the top of her game, gets sent home? This competition is not based on who has the best voice or ability to perform, it's about who they like and dislike. Since all the scandal that happened with Reuben and Clay, I don't think that there will ever be another black winner of American Idol.

It's an absolute shame that things have come to this. If this show survives another season, they have better change the voting rules, or I'm boycotting and never watching the show again. Hell, I might boycott it anyway!!!:sowrong: :sowrong: :sowrong:

giantfan121262
05-13-2004, 01:43 AM
Unfortunetely, the fate of the contestants, supposedly, lies in the hands of the general public. Personally, I don't agree with the decisions the last couple of weeks. First George, now Latoya.

I think that if George was going to get booted he should have the one of the two weeks before his fate was sealed. It's just at the point where there is no margin for error. Personally, I thought Jasmine butchered the song "it's Raining Men", but that's only my personal opinion, for whatever it's worth.

giggleygirl25
05-13-2004, 12:22 PM
i was surprised that jasmine got to stay...i wasn't surprised that la toya was in the bottom 2..she didn't have a great performance this week either...jasmine should've been in the bottom 2 and should've been the next one gone, but she'll be gone next week..i'm sure of it, just hope she doesn't have to go thru the death threats and crap like john stevens did...no 16 year old kid should have to go thru that just because they aren't well liked.

kis123
05-13-2004, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by giggleygirl25
i was surprised that jasmine got to stay...i wasn't surprised that la toya was in the bottom 2..she didn't have a great performance this week either...jasmine should've been in the bottom 2 and should've been the next one gone, but she'll be gone next week..i'm sure of it, just hope she doesn't have to go thru the death threats and crap like john stevens did...no 16 year old kid should have to go thru that just because they aren't well liked.

Death threats? Are you serious? It is bad enough that children are allowed in these competitions as it is. They need to learn to be children first, not thrust into adulthood. That aside, they also have to put up with idiots threatening their lives? What is this world coming to when people harrass kids for being who they are? It's not like they're on drugs, screwing around, drinking, or the many other things a lot of kids get sucked into. They're pursuing their dreams. Whatever is wrong with that?

JPie1
05-20-2004, 06:46 AM
ok, they finally did right tonight. We are down to the final 2. I think Fantasia is going to get it although she has never been my personal favorite. They are both excellent, Diana and Fantasia. Fantasia is good although her style sometimes rubs me the wrong way. Diana is adorable, powerful and talented...given a little styling tips I think she can go far.

So I will be glued to the finale next week!

Mimi
05-20-2004, 03:36 PM
Fantasia and George were my two favorites from the very start of the finalies, so I am obviously rooting for Fantasia at this point. I know her voice is a bit of an acquired taste for some, but she has so much personality and stage prescence and fire and energy that is just puts her in a league of her own. I still feel either George, LaToya, or Jennifer should be in the final two with her, instead of Diana, but Diana has come a long way, and proved she deserves to be there with her powerful and amazing rendition of "Don't Cry Outloud" on Tuesday night. I don't think she should win, but she's a hell of a talent, and will likely have a prosperous career ahead of her.

Mimi

JPie1
05-26-2004, 06:55 AM
well after last nights show I think Fantasia will win it all. I love Diana but she did out sing her last night.

Mimi
05-26-2004, 10:26 AM
Fantasia SHOULD win tonight. I won't say she will, because the votes this season have gone awry. But she was simply the better singer last night, and has been consistently throughout the competition.

Mimi

qjakal
05-26-2004, 11:49 AM
Listening to them both sing the same song settled it easily,imo. I'd buy Fantasias version, and that's what this is really all about in the long run. It would be a travesty if she didn't win. Of course she SHOULD have been playing off against LaToya, but that's water under the bridge.

Q

kis123
05-26-2004, 12:32 PM
At the rate things have been going this season, they'll probably choose Diana because the public has been voting backwards for several weeks. I didn't watch last night, but Fantasia is the stronger singer and the better performer between the two of them, even though I don't care for her voice very much. Let's see if America gets it right tonight.

Mimi
05-26-2004, 11:15 PM
W0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o-H0o0o0o0o0o0o0oo0o0o0o0o!!!!!

And that's ALL I've gotta say about that! Fantasia, you go girl!


Mimi :D

bratgirl365(aka Trixie)
05-26-2004, 11:32 PM
Go Fantasia....waaaaaahooooooooo!

the_Baron
05-27-2004, 10:12 AM
did clay aiken win????

crydun
05-27-2004, 10:51 AM
Go Fantasia!!!!! Shine for the Lord!!!!

qjakal
05-27-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by the_Baron
did clay aiken win????

Yup, he did win where it counts...at the cash register.

Looking forward to Fantasias first album. She has charisma and a helluva voice.

Q

q-ball
06-10-2004, 04:46 AM
Who will win ..Paula. I know she isn't in the show to compete, but she's the best thing on the show, bar none. But that's my opinion

q (I LOVE Paula) ball

kis123
06-10-2004, 11:24 AM
I wish Jennifer Hudson would've won, but am glad Fantasia won. Diana has a good voice and a good personality, but Fantasia was the better performer overall. She can also stand as an example that if a nineteen year old single mother can rise to the top, so can anyone. Even though I'm not that crazy about her voice, I support her in her future success.

natural tickler
06-12-2004, 01:34 PM
Actually, before they do another year of Idol, they really need to set clear meaning on the voting procedures, like only vote people off because of their singing ability, not a popularity contest ,also fix the way the votes are counted by phone too. That's the only way to make it fair and right:D

kis123
06-12-2004, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by natural tickler
Actually, before they do another year of Idol, they really need to set clear meaning on the voting procedures, like only vote people off because of their singing ability, not a popularity contest ,also fix the way the votes are counted by phone too. That's the only way to make it fair and right:D

Idea is great in theory, however;

You can't leglislate people's tendencies to vote for who they like, not necessarily who posesses the most talent. If American Idol ever expects to remain on television, they better figure out a decent phone-in system.

Do what they did on the new Star Search, use Internet voting. It would give people a chance to vote that couldn't get through the phones. Plus, it can be limited to one vote on one person.

The plan isn't foolproof, but it's a start!;)