Religion in Corporate America

[drew70]

I totally support freedom of religion but I find myself getting irritated when I see it at the corporate office. I've seen Muslims wearing turbans, Hindu women dressed in Sorries. (SP?) Last week I even saw a guy wearing a Yamaka. Come on, folks. Leave that shit at home when you go to work. When you are at the office you are a representative of that company, and your attire should reflect as much. The only reason I can see for wearing turbans and Yamakas to work is to make a statement, "Hey, look at me! I'm religious!"

[TFStudio]

Originally posted by drew70
I totally support freedom of religion but I find myself getting irritated when I see it at the corporate office. I've seen Muslims wearing turbans, Hindu women dressed in Sorries. (SP?) Last week I even saw a guy wearing a Yamaka. Come on, folks. Leave that shit at home when you go to work. When you are at the office you are a representative of that company, and your attire should reflect as much. The only reason I can see for wearing turbans and Yamakas to work is to make a statement, "Hey, look at me! I'm religious!"

I don't see a problem w/it, if all religious people are allowed to do the same. But I draw the line when they start to "favor" one religious rights VS another.

Case in point....a few yrs back, a Muslim flight attendant was allowed to wear her religious symbol, but a Christian was not allowed to wear a Cross, because it could be "provocative".

Fuck this political correct bullshit. What's good and right for one, should be allowed for all.

[evilqueen]

Muslims don't wear turbans for religious expression. They are worn by Sikhs, who contend they are not worn for religious reasons but are integral to their culture nonetheless.

Saris are not neccesarily religious unless accompanied by head coverings. Most Hindu women do not wear them out of religious observance but as cultural expression.

Yarmulkes - you have a problem with yarmulkes? Where do you live, Podunk? In my big city I see all these variations in dress including that of ultra-conservative Hasidic Jews, who wear the broad-rimmed black hats and side curls.

Your problem is with cultural diversity. Which I suppose gets you off the hook of referring to symbols of faith as "shit."

[nenezinho]

well, I´m from Portugal and all I can say is those things must be well defined by your seniors or supervisors.

For instance:
I´m finishing college and it´s clearly stated by our teacher that every oral presentation on our last two years must be done with shoes and tie...you know! No tenis shoes, no jeans, you can go that way cause it´s college after all but you are surelly gona have a bad day cause all hell will fall on you! and most certainly you can´t go wearing any kind of asian or middle eastern dress! But then again I´m on the business/marketing area and we are very strict on apearances.

Another example was a company were I went for two weeks in jannuary and once again we were clearly instructed on the clothing aspect.
I and all the other students going there were all e-mailed by the person responsible for human resources.
The e-mail stated clearly that tenis shoes and jeans were not allowed but we should not take ties because they liked a more confy environment.

So...if you are having trouble, that´s just because your senior are not doing their job. A company has an identity, it´s like a racing team or let´s say, a football team....every player wears the team´s collors and the couch should get well dressed or wearing a training suit....everyone knows that! It´s what it´s called group spirit or something like that.


regarding the cultural issues:
don´t know if people notices this but female journalists on eastern countrys have to wear skirts....just to mention an example! So, I believe it is right as it is! There is an old saying that goes "In rome, one must act like a roman"

[venray]

Methinks Drew was merely making the point of how ridiculous it is to take offense at someone's expression of culture or religion whether they work at the local insurance company or at the state capital...

Amazing after all the pC threads we have had recently that no one caught the sarcasm....;)


Ray

[tommytikl]

Originally posted by venray1
Methinks Drew was merely making the point of how ridiculous it is to take offense at someone's expression of culture or religion whether they work at the local insurance company or at the state capital...

Amazing after all the pC threads we have had recently that no one caught the sarcasm....;)


Ray

That is the problem with online sarcasm, it is rarely caught by those thinking with emotion or the quick read!


Oh yeah, and I LOVE the snake head in your sig!!

[BigJim]

Sarcasm? Wassat? :dogpile:

[drew70]

Originally posted by evilqueen
Muslims don't wear turbans for religious expression. They are worn by Sikhs, who contend they are not worn for religious reasons but are integral to their culture nonetheless.

Saris are not neccesarily religious unless accompanied by head coverings. Most Hindu women do not wear them out of religious observance but as cultural expression.

Yarmulkes - you have a problem with yarmulkes? Where do you live, Podunk? In my big city I see all these variations in dress including that of ultra-conservative Hasidic Jews, who wear the broad-rimmed black hats and side curls.

Your problem is with cultural diversity. Which I suppose gets you off the hook of referring to symbols of faith as "shit." LOL. Cultural diversity?? Honey, I've lived in or around Washington DC for my entire life! We've got more cultural diversity than Epcot! That's not what irritates me. It's the idea that other cultures are more important than our own. I could just as easily say that wearing blue jeans, a T-shirt and a guitar is essential to my cultural expression, and it would be true. But I have to shelf my cultural preferences for the sake of maintaining a professional appearance. I'm fine with that, as it makes perfect sense to me. But if I am required to make this sacrifice, shouldn't it be required of those of other cultures as well? I don't have a problem with people preserving their culture, but there is such a thing as corporate culture as well, and in my opinion, religious headgear is in conflict.

[evilqueen]

Oh honey, I knew your location, at least so far as your profile is accurate. And I can argue that jeans and tees are professional clothing depending on your profession. But I urge you to share your cosmopolitan viewpoint with the management of your company, instead of letting it languish here.

[drew70]

No, I can't be doing that, I'm afraid. I could be fired for just thinking it, much less voicing such concerns. You're probably right, anyway. Silly thing to be irritated about.

[MrMacphisto]

Originally posted by Ticklemaster750
I don't see a problem w/it, if all religious people are allowed to do the same. But I draw the line when they start to "favor" one religious rights VS another.

Case in point....a few yrs back, a Muslim flight attendant was allowed to wear her religious symbol, but a Christian was not allowed to wear a Cross, because it could be "provocative".

Fuck this political correct bullshit. What's good and right for one, should be allowed for all.

I totally agree, but wouldn't it be so much simpler if no one was religious? :devil: