Who are you voting for in November?

[Mitchell]

Simple poll here. Who are you voting for in November? Bush-Cheney or Kerry-Edwards. Anyone who would care to post why they are voting as they are, please do so. Thanks.

[Mitchell]

I will be voting for John Kerry and John Edwards for several reasons.

One, I feel that Bush has to be held accountable for the war. This war has cost us 1000 American lives, and untold amount of money. While Saddam is in custody, the attacks on our troops have to make one wonder why we went to war in the first place. The Iraqis dont care that we liberated their country, no WMD's have been found, and this war has taken us from the greatest surplus to the greatest deficit in our history.

Second, while it is said to be "improving", the economy under this president has been awful. At it's height, 3 million American jobs were lost. While we can blame part of that on 9-11 and the travel and airline industry, he clearly does not know how to deal with a sound economy. It is unlikely that we will recover 3 million jobs by November, and one has to believe that many Americans are not better off than they were four years ago when we voted. That, quite simply, is usually the way that Americans judge their president, Look at Bill Clinton, he dealt with a government shutdown, and was investigated repeatedly, and yet still won in a landslide in 1996, because he was an effective president in the oval office, and Americans were doing well. People are not doing as well financially now as they were when he was in office.

Third, George Bush's massive tax cut has been part of the problem regarding the deficit. While the middle class has been helped minimally, it was said that for millionaires, their tax savings would buy them a new luxury car every year, while it would buy the lower and middle classes little more than a muffler. This clearly isnt equality for all classes.

Fourth, Bush's conservative agenda and the courts has to be a concern. With nothing to lose, and no election to win, it has to be a concern that if one of the Surpreme Court justices retires or dies, that Bush will embrace his conservative base, and appoint justices who will endanger Roe V Wade, and a woman's right to choose. Some people on here argue that Bush wouldnt embrace this just because he could, and I argue that he will do whatever he is allowed to, as he did with the war when Congress gave him a "blank check" so to speak. I honestly would put nothing past him in regard to his agenda.

Finally, Iam not voting for Bush, because I just have disdain for his policies in general, and feel that neither I nor other middle income Americans are better off with him in the White House. He has agendas which most benefit the rich, and his "compassionate conservative" label is almost an enigma. He is conservative, yes, but his only "compassion" is for the rich. We cannot judge the indictment of Ken Lay in regard to Bush's presidency either. That may well have been an election year political move. These are my reasons. I welcome comments from all sides, but I feel I have presented several strong reasons about why Iam not voting for this guy in November. I just feel Iam better off with John Kerry in office, as Mr George W Bush does not represent me, or the ideals I stand for, or look for in a president.

Mitch

[TklDuo-Ann]

Hmmmm..... Perhaps you should have included choices of undecided and none of the above in your poll. I can't bring myself to vote for Bush again. But, I don't like the other choices available either. I won't not vote. But, I'm likely to do a write-in or something if I'm not convinced of the job any of the front runners can do.

Ann

[august spies]

nader was talking about having a none of the above option on the ballot, makes perfect sense to me.

[Mephistopheles]

seeing the fact I am no american, I don't vote :p (and I'm very glad I am not american)

[Krokus]

Kerry - Edwards gets my vote. Not that it matters, the state I am in is almost a no-brainer for bush.... (God I hate Texas)

[Knox The Hatter]

Obviously, Nader has a sense of humor if he's putting himself in None of the Above. Sounds like a good idea in his case...

[crydun]

I am voting for Kerry-Edwards in November. This country can't handle four more years of Bush, for one. Maybe Kerry can do something about the job market.

[Mitchell]

I couldnt agree more, crydun, and the reason you posted is one of the main reasons Iam voting for Kerry, that in addition to many other reasons.

Mitch

[MrMacphisto]

Nader - Arnold Schwartznegger '04: Sending the world a clear message that we don't know what the fuck we're doing, and we're proud of it!

[BigJim]

Originally posted by crydun
I am voting for Kerry-Edwards in November. This country can't handle four more years of Bush, for one. Maybe Kerry can do something about the job market.


I sincerely doubt that he would. I've place dmyself in the hypothetical situation of being an American voter and gone for abstention. These days it seems to be the only way you can act with the shower of tossers we're given to choose between, and still be able to say that you participated.

Abstention is vastly different from not being bothered to vote. It's a statement that you're sick of playing a game where the outcome makes no difference to your lives, because the men are faces bowing and scraping to their benefactors, with no true interest of serving the people who pay their wages.

[BigJim]

As an afterthought, I will make a prediction: Kerry will be President of the United states in January.

My reason? Once again it's just been shown (by someone else this time) in another thread that the two Presidential candidates are cousins. This echos the elections of many occasions past. In these, the result was invariably won by the person with the bluer blood, or the most royal and noble connections to Europe(or in the case of someone like Clinton, someone who was married to someone with the right connections).

Kerry, being a cousin of Gee Dubya, and having connections to both the Windsors and also the Kennedys has the bluer blood of the two. This has never failed in any election I've studied. So determined are the Elite that the more royal blooded of the candidates should win, that they are even declared the winner when their opponent beats them at the polls. Great legal hoops are leap through to do this, and great long-winded and important sounding laws are read out to support it, but the main theme remains the same: American Presidents are not elected by ballot, they are selected by blood and always have been. Kerry's is the bluer. He will win in November.


Jim - Who's just set himself up for one big-ass fall if Bush wins. :D

[TicklishKev]

I'm glad to see that a lot of people are voting, no matter who they are voting for. However to the 2 so far who are not...why?

Whether you are disillisioned by all 3, or just have "no interest in politics", I urge you to reconsider. Here's why:

This is actively the most powerful nation in the world (I say actively because in certain circumstances it could easily be taken down a few points in that list). Therefore the administration in control of this country has a helluva lot of say in how the world is run. I know that voting is a person's right in a democracy and you can choose not to if you want (apart from countries like Australia where it is mandatory by law). But as I said, you are voting for the fate of yourself, your country and the world for the next 4 years here. As an American citizen you yourself should consider it less of a choice and more of a RESPONSIBILITY to vote, and also show an interest in what your government is doing. Remember "We the people"? Sure you may be content living in hte suburbs with your job, your home and your SUV and care about little else outside that bubble, but its the government that looms over every single choice you make, right down to the most trivial. If it involves your lifestyle, whoever is in power will control your decisions, by telling you how much freedoms you have.

One of those 3 (well 2 really... sadly Nader has only the power to make the only make the real contenders nervous)is going to be put in office regardless, so why not cast your ballot for whom you think is the most deserving?

It's the only time you have a voice in the world, unless you run for public office yourself. The public this time will not stand for a rehash the fiasco of 2000, so your vote will be counted. Please change your mind.

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Kev

[maniactickler]

Ill be voting for Bush even though i disagree with alot of his liberal stands on some issues. he needs to stop trying to get along with the liberals and move his own agenda along. liberals are back stabbers and could care less about working in unity. they are concerned with ONLY the power and themselves.

[BigJim]

Originally posted by TicklishKev
It's the only time you have a voice in the world, unless you run for public office yourself. The public this time will not stand for a rehash the fiasco of 2000, so your vote will be counted. Please change your mind.

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Kev


The public will stand for anything, no matter how big a joke it may be. They've been doing it for centuries, swallowing more shit than a combine harvester re-routed through a pigsty.

I genuinely feel that one of the things the human race has to get away from if it's to liberate itself, is this "democracy is freedom" line. It never has been in any form it's been present in the world, except perhaps VERY briefly in Greece. (And that was stepped on hard!)

Neither Bush nor Kerry presents an alternative unless you're gullible enough to believe their blurb that says they're on opposing sides. Out of all the elections in US history, this has to be the one where there's been least to choose between the two candidates. Right now though the minds of most American voters have been polarised by the upheaval of recent years and it actually looks like they're different.

Bush and Kerry have the same background, the same sponsors, the same controllers, the same education and the same agenda. (They even have the same gene pool for smeg's sake!) Top of the list on it is making you people believe that voting in November actually matters and that it gives you a choice in how your country is run.

Expressing your beliefs and opinions on your nation's and the world's affairs it vital to your human freedom and liberty. Being lulled into believing that you can express them constructively through a rigged game with puppet contenders is vital to your imprisonment.

[milagros317]

I couldn't vote in your poll because I will be voting for Michael Badnarik, Libertarian Party candidate for President, in November 2004.