Serious Problem, with Much Insight Needed

[NickK]

I like most of you here, don't just like, but am sexually aroused by tickling. I am still in highschool, going into OAC, and not about to start telling people about this little..."fetish"... if that's what it is.... well hell, I am sure it is. I am not planning on ever telling anybody about this. It is a HUGE problem... I hate it, I hate that I am like this, sometimes I hate myself for it. Even though this is not my fault, I feel that it is wrong I feel that I am just a freak. (With no offense to any of you, because I don't view you as this at all.) It makes me depressed, I just want to die sometimes, I sure hope it never gets to the point when I want to die enough... to ... well... And this is becoming more and more like a possibility, now more than ever. I need serious help, you here at TMF are the only ones I feel comfortable talking to, through a computer, and the internet, with the sme "fetish." It scares the fuck outta me. As of now, I have never had anything with a girl besides making out, and I am afraid as hell about that too. I don't know if I can get an erection from anything else than tickling. I want to cry. I am crying. I need you to help me, please. This is my last hope.

[naveltkltr1350]

whoa Nick, chill out..dont go and kill yourself over it..and no..i highly doubt its the only thing that will get you up playa, but it might work faster than anything else would. Just relax, i know some ppl on here that will help you..just dont go and kill yourself over it.~jeff

[venray]

You need to see a counselor, Nick. Perhaps at your school or public health department. You need to talk with someone one on one about the feelings you are having. Just talking will make you feel better and perhaps being able to get those feelings out will help you to understand them more.

You are not a freak. Just confused a little about your sexuality like millions of people are.

Ray

[NickK]

Wow, I have to say, with 46 views I would think more than 2 people have the good in their hearts to at least say something to try to help me, but I guess I was wrong... I just don't understand it.

[padrefan67]

Or perhaps, Nick, it's that Venray said it best, and everyone else is checking to make certain that you aren't receiving any bad advice.

Seek the assistance, and you will find it's the best thing you can do. Spoken from someone who has done so. Good luck to you.

[MsDivaNYC]

Originally posted by NickK
Wow, I have to say, with 46 views I would think more than 2 people have the good in their hearts to at least say something to try to help me, but I guess I was wrong... I just don't understand it.

Okay, first off, don't feel ignored--no one's trying to 'dis' you intentionally--you only posted this sometime today, and it's just too early to get a reaction from people. Give it a couple of days and you'll see the replies pouring in. We are certainly not freaks and neither are you. Tickling is one of the safest fetishes out there--it's fun, exhilarating at times and in My opinion, anything but harmful or perverse.

You are young, so I'm guessing your extreme, frightened reaction may be due mainly to chemical/hormonal changes in your body. Self-esteem is low, your body goes through weird changes, you're facing peer as well as academic pressure at school---gawd, I remember those odd, awkward years!

I second Venray's motion--go seek professional help. Does your school employ a full-time counselor? If anything, feel free to PM Me if you want to chat or have any questions.

Best of luck, cutie!

[Celsus]

Hey, I'm the same age as you, in the exact same situation. Exact (minus the will to die).

I haven't told anyone I have a tickling fetish, though I have mentioned to girls that I find ticklishness to be cute or sexy, or that I find tickling fun. That type of thing, I've really played it down. Every single time, I got a positive response. Most girls I've spoken to have actually admitted to enjoy being tickled, to some degree.

Don't worry, I don't think we're as screwed as it might seem.

[Myriads]

It's been quiet because Ven's advice was good. I agree that seeing a proffessional is a good idea if this issue is making you so upset that hurting yourself is on your mind. There is help out there for just his reason. There is no shame in using it.

You see us as a safe place to talk about this as we share your tastes. Ok lets discuss.

You are describing a emotional situation that is a magnified version of the personal isolation that many teenagers experience. You are not alone in these feelings, and many here have gone through the same as you. Many of your peers have the same fears, though they may center on different aspects of their sexuality and relationships (Am I pretty enough for him? Am I too fat? How does sex fit in with my faith? Will anyone ever find me attractive and so on...) With you, your fetish has become the item on which you are getting caught upon.

The first thing that needs to be seen is how serious the fetish is for you.

You say that you don't know if you can become aroused by anything other then tickling. Well take some time to find out. You don't need to turn into Mr. One foot iron britches, just show interest. A fetish, at your age, can become a focus easily, and while other turn-ons exist, the fetish is like a bright light that blinds you to other things. Take some time to look around it. You'll be surprised what you may find. Do you have preferences in what you like in a womans looks? think about that for a bit.

You state you have 'made out' with girls. What was the result of these experiences?

And a question. Why do you hate yourself for having the fetish? Would you hate yourself if you say... all your hair fell out one night? What about being turned on by tickling self-repulses so strongly with you?

We are here to listen and help.
Myriads

[mabus]

Actually, tickling is one of the most common fetishes - Just look, there are over 12,000 members here! And thats only the ones who know about the Tickling Forum and use a computer - there are obviously many thousands more who will discover this place, or just come here and never sign up.

And that's just ONE fetish. There are leather fetishes, foot fetishes, hand fetishes, bondage, balloons, high heels, low heels, glasses, uniforms, etc. etc. etc.

You must also realize, and this is almost certainly a fact, that there are probably many, many people in your school, in your church, and in your life who also have there own fetish. They obviously won't talk about it, but trust me, they all have them. You don't exactly have to tell everyone you have a tickling fetish, that's what the forum is for. You can come here and talk. It's not that people will hate you, they just won't understand unless they have this specific fetish. Most people will discuss sex in broad terms, or bravado filled slaps on the back, but won't delve into specifics like that. Where I work, hell, we talk about sex all the time, everyone else far more than me. And I never told anyone I had a tickle fetish. Topic never came up.

I don't have a leather fetish, for example. If someone close to me told me they had one, I wouldn't judge them because of that, I'd just wonder why they were telling me, and that would be that. I couldn't talk to them much about it, except to tell them I have a tickling fetish, and then they wouldn't be able to relate to that, because they probably don't have one! See how that works? I knew people who would get excited when a girl had on leather pants, for example, and I'd be like, "Oh, okay, whatever." I would be talking to the girl and feel absolutely nothing, and three guys would be standing and looking at me like I'm braveheart or something. But then I'd see a woman with pantyhose on and be like "Oh my God!" and others would be like "Ho hum....whatever..."
Wouldn't even notice.

Don't worry, your normal. (Like normal means anything - someone please find me all those normal people out there, I'd love to meet them!)

You are worried about this because you're still in high school. As everyone here can tell you, when you enter the real world, EVERYTHING changes. Much for the better, some for the worse, most of it will be just growing up. People in high school care about stupid crap like that. Their little cliques and shit.
When you enter the job market, your boss will be like "Can you show up on time and do your job? That's all I care about. Oh, you were popular in school? That's nice, heres a mop, clean that floor. You went to prom by yourself, awww, that's a shame - go wait on those customers." No one cares. It's the same in college - there's no Big Man on Campus - people are there because they're paying to be there. The professors don't care if you show up to class or not, they don't chase you down in the hall and tell you to study. You can fail every class and no one will care. On the bright side, if you do care, they will help you more than any high school teacher could, and point you in the direction of resources, study groups, and internships you wouldn't have dreamed of in high school.

I don't know, when you see people who are blind, or deaf, or in wheel chairs going to the same classes as everyone else, seeing people 20 years old and others 70 all in the same class, things change. When you have to deal with life's challenges all by yourself, and overcome them as you undoubtably will, you grow as a person, become more tolerant, more understanding, and a better person. Comparing high school to real life is like....well, you can't compare them. Real life isn't worse than high school, as many will tell you, it's far better. Every person I've seen since high school talks more to me now than they did in high school. The other day I saw a guy who was a tough guy in high school, hell, made fun of me a few times, wouldn't give me the time of day, and the other day we talked for 40 minutes, and he told me to come by the store he runs to bullshit if I ever get the chance. I was pushes baskets at Walmart and a guy from high school who was working on his doctor's degree came over and we talked for 30 minutes. Another guy who was one of the most popular guys in school would talk to me every time he saw me there too. (I was basically the nobody in school, not even the school nerd.) I would run into girls from other grades and we'd talk forever. That shit NEVER happens in high school. Everyone wants to be popular in high school, but that mostly fades away when you enter the real world. It becomes how you handle life's problems, take responsibility for your actions, if you are a non-judgemental person, a forgiving person, a kind person.

Once people get married, have kids, lose friends and family, get divorces, go through lifes ups and downs, they mellow out. Don't worry about your fetish or high school opinions of it. Trust me, you'll find out real fast - most of that crap that you do in high school doesn't amount to anything in the real world - I won lots of awards in high school, and got the honor roll many times. I'm working alongside people who never finished high school and waiting on customers who are too busy throwing up on themselves to know what a science fair or rally even is.

[leafstk]

Originally posted by padrefan67
Or perhaps, Nick, it's that Venray said it best, and everyone else is checking to make certain that you aren't receiving any bad advice.

Seek the assistance, and you will find it's the best thing you can do. Spoken from someone who has done so. Good luck to you.

Well said. As a fellow Canadian, I feel for you Nick and hope you can take a few steps back and heed Ray's advice. Its not easy, especially when you're young, I know, but realize there are many of us out there who have confronted our feelings on this issue and have become stronger for it. I'm sure you will do the same, it just takes time. I remember growing up having a hard time making sense of it too, but over time, and especially since I've found the TMF, I've become much more comfortable with it and understand that it is part of what makes me and many of us here unique. Like MsDiva said, its anything but harmful and is all about great fun and enjoyment, even if it is in a sexual context. Just relax, get some help and try to put things in perspective.

[tommytikl]

Hey man...
Like others have said here...take a step back(not easy for a teenager)...
I would venture that just about EVERY person on this TMF board has had a similar thought pattern run through their brain.
HOW IN THE WORLD CAN I BE TURNED ON BY TICKLING!!!

Well at least you have come around during the time of the internet and can get some advice and an outlet for your emotions.

First, I would take Rays and Myriads advice.
And you should also think about what you LOVE about tickling...is it the laughter, the response to laughter, a certian ticklish body part, a facial reaction you love...think about what you REALLY LOVE about tickling...

One other thing I will say is that esp. in highschool, tickling is viewed as flirtation and a way for a guy to get his hands on a girl..or at least that is my excuse;) :)
And while I am not saying tackle every girl the ground in a huge tickle fight, but a stroke of your finger down her side or poke her belly button whould just be a way of flirting for you.
Just enjoy it, enjoy TALKING to the girl, it takes enough courage just to TALK to the girl, but really they don't bite and are looking to talk to YOU too!!!
Anyway, I wish you all the best and I was right there with you man, in terms of what you are feeling, and I didn't have the TMF or other web pages to fall on till college.

Good luck man!

Tickle On.

[dvnc]

Wasn't awake when ya posted, NickK. Nothin' personal. Need consciousness to post. Most do.

Like many have said, Venray nailed it.

FWIW, you're gonna find most people are feelin' like you. Even them bland, ordinary folk. The ones who fit that "normal description.

You're normal here, man. There's thousands here and you're one of us. You want to play with someone. You're not talkin' harm.

Oh, and this interest in tickling isn't technically a fetish. Fetishes require inanimate objects, and someone being tickled DEFINITELY ain't inanimate. Quite the opposite. Closest that it comes, psychologically, is a paraphilia, and only if tickling is ALWAYS sexual for you. If you can tickle a baby and be cool with it, you just have an interest, the way most men have an interest in breasts or legs, dig?

Now, if you were into handbags, or nylons, THAT would be a fetish.

Trivia, but if you're gonna label yourself, know it. There's this book called the DSM-IV, that defines psych stuff, and that's where I pull this info from. You're not crazy. You're not even weird, here. You're just interested in tickling.

Even if it WAS a fetish, like if you dug shoes, too, who cares? Do ya wanna harm someone? If not, no worries. Someone on the planet wants t'grow old wit' ya.

I found mine. Many here have. Just takes time. Annoyin', but true.

Hope ya find a counsellor to talk to. They're wicked cool. If ya don't like the first one, blow 'em off and find another. Keep lookin' 'til ya find one you're comfortable talking to. I did, ages back. Did again, while workin' my butt off after college (it grew back, thanks). Shrinks can be good for ventin', and gettin' clear wit' things. After all, this board's just a bunch of text on the screen 'til you prove for yourself that what's said is valid, y'know?

Most of us have email addresses. I do. It's gatheringswc@aol.com. If ya want conversation about the topic, or wanna question how I did what I'm sayin' you should do, mail me. Venray's likely the same. So are many. There's private messaging here. PM someone, even.

Point is that this is a community. Folks will jump in for ya. Just like we wanted back in the day, y'know?

Peace,

dvnc

[BigBrownEyes]

Nick, please take it easy. This is not really a major problem, even though it seems like it now. When you get older, you'll recognize that it's not a problem at all. It's just a preference.

Actually, you're at the perfect age to indulge in some tickling just for the fun of it. That's the only thing I miss from high school. There were always lots of girls to date and they usually tickled me first. At that age, kids liked to experiment and just play around. I remember actually dating another ticklephile when I was around seventeen, even though I didn't acknowledge the fact, and never heard the word "ticklephile" before. But a day did not go by when that girl did not bring up tickling, talk about how ticklish she was, or just start tickling me.

I remember a lot of girls talked about tickling back then, and I saw a lot of all out tickle attacks in those day. So you're at the perfect age to have fun with it.

Hope that helped a little at least...

[TklDuo-Ann]

Nick... You are not alone. There are MANY others just like you. Is this different from what most people expect to feel...largely as a result of all the sexual content seen on television? Yes. Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily. It certainly isn't something so bad that it's worth hurting yourself over. And, as you relax enough to take the time to look around, you'll find that it's something you can not only live with but also enjoy.

That having been said, I can relate to what you're feeling. When I first discovered how deep my love of tickling was, it scared the shit out of me. I too thought there was something very wrong with me. Then, I took a step back and remembered something. We're all unique. That's how we're supposed to be. That's how we were created. While society tends to think we should all say and do the same stuff and basicly turn into cultural cloans of one another, that is neither true nor healthy. We need to be true to ourselves...whatever that means for each individual.

As Ray and others have said, talk with someone...preferably a counsellor if you feel that negative about things. But, until you can get to do that, talk to anyone you feel comfortable with. Sometimes, explaining something you're feeling to someone else helps you to realize exactly what you're feeling yourself. Hang in there. You'll be fine. You just have to give yourself a little time to digest things.

Ann

[milagros317]

Originally posted by NickK
Wow, I have to say, with 46 views I would think more than 2 people have the good in their hearts to at least say something to try to help me, but I guess I was wrong... I just don't understand it.

Hello, Nick. With regard to response rates, I think you will find that most discussion threads get between 1 response per 10 views and 1 response per 100 views. Many unregistered readers can not respond, even if they want to. At any given moment there are more unregistered guests than registered users reading these forums.

With regard to your situation, the most important thing to realize is that you are not alone. Many people your age are going through similar anxieties, fears, and self-doubts about different aspects of themselves and their sexuality. The most important thing to do is what Venray said, talk about it to a trained profession, such as your school psychologist.

[steph]

Welcome to forum and kudos for being brave enough to "come out." The oh-so-wise Ray said it first--Please do find a trained professional to help you thru this. I work with many patients with psychological issues. I don't know if it's of any comfort to you but mine would give anything to have your problem. You're not wrong and you're not a freak. You could be aroused by MUCH worse things (rape, torture, MURDER...) At least tickling is seen (at least by those of us who enjoy it) as something fun, legal, playful and enjoyable. You're not hurting anybody after all honey.

I didn't figure out what it meant to me until recently (I'm probably twice your age.) You have the advantage of recognizing it young and finding a partner who enjoys it as much as you do. There are a lot of forum memebers here close to your age and I hope they speak out. Good luck, hang in there and do try to go easier on yourself. I promise, you'll find out there's nothing wrong with you and if you find a helpful professional, you'll be fine...Hope this helps, even a little.

XOXO

[featherfingers]

Nick, when I first began telling my friends that I loved feet and tickling they looked at me like I was from Mars... then they'd continue their discussion about women's breasts or butts. I could never figure out why I was viewed as a freak while they weren't ridiculed for their obsession. As you can see, you're not alone in this world. Every member of this forum has most likely been met with some ridicule. You know what? I laugh it off now. I've found that a lot of people will change their point of view, eventually. I told a friend of mine about my obsession with feet. He looked at me weird and said, "How can anyone like feet? They're gross!" A month or so later he told me his court reporter came to work one day wearing sandals. (My friend is a lawyer) He then said, "I finally see your point, Frank. Her feet are really pretty." Long story short, they both got married a few months ago. I'm not saying he joined our club or her feet made him hotter for her, but you never know. Venray suggested counseling. I back him up on that. When you meet new people, have a great time conversing with them but listen for what I call "Golden Opportunities". Example: You're with friends and someone mentions Eddie Murphy, for example. You could ask, "What do you think of his foot fetish?" (That's a well known fact!) Listen for the replies. Someone might reply, "Ooh, I'd love for someone to play with my feet!" THAT'S someone you'll wanna get to know. I hope this has helped. You're alright, Nick.

[BigBrownEyes]

Nick, at your age, I remember feeling that I liked tickling too much and that the right one would never come along. Ok, when I was 21, I fell in love and this girl even had a slight tickle fetish.

We stayed together for over a year. My point is that someone will come along when you least expect it and make you feel better about things. There's absolutely nothing wrong with you. You just like tickling more than the average person.

If you want to talk to some people who really understand, just hang around here. You're surrounded by people who understand. Hey, I've had a tickle fetish since around the age of five!

But counseling is not a bad idea if you feel you'd want to do that.

[tickleboynyc]

Let me just put in my two cents' worth...
I've been into tickling for as long as I can remeber. When I was a teenager I was VERY embarrassed about it and scared stiff that anyone would ever find out. i definitely thought i was a freak. then by chance i discovered a tickling magazine on 48th street in NYC ( the old, pre-Giuliani days-lol )and i realized...i'm not alone! There's even magazines and videos and websites decicated to this! and then when i met my first girlfriend , even though she didn't share my fetish, she loved to indulge me and incorporate tickling into our love making. It was so sweet and exciting...I realized there is nothing wrong with my fetish. Also, there is no 'line in the sand' with fetishists on one side and 'normal' people on the other!
The concept of 'normal' is basically useless. MOST of us are 'normal'.
wanting to hurt people, now THAT's not normal!
But tickling in my opinion is basically sweet and affectionate...even when it's extreme!
tickling is fun, playful and exciting. it's basic human contact and affection. It's really quite harmless!
I hope this helps...
I second Venray's advice. If you feel that badly you may really need professional help.As scary as that may sound, you basically need to be able to sit down and talk to someone who'll be able to understand what you're going through and advise you. I also think there may be more problems in your life than just your worries about a tickle fetish.

[tickleboynyc]

Also nick, please respond, so we know you're ok, ok?

[steph]

I second the request...Please Nick, you asked for responses--give us a yell, let us know you're still with us?

XOXO

[featherfingers]

Is there a way for a moderator to get in touch with Nick and make sure he's alright? Depression is no laughing matter.

[kcantankerous]

try being a personal trainer with a tickle fetish???

But seriously calm down and listen to the advise that is given we've all been there in one form or another. I am embarrassed about my fetish with feet and tickling, I've told acouple of my friends 2 or 3 girls, girlfriends, and my best guy friend. Nothing bad happened we're still friends, they respect me. And the girls often become more playful after knowing it. It's really not that big a deal. Now if you were into people wearing full body animal costumes I'd be alittle worried.

[jk666uk]

just good luck and post back on this forum please

[chickles_:)]

Hi NickK!
Oh hey, big guy it's okay! And so are YOU! You're good. You are normal. YOu have what it takes to have a great life. YOu have friends and people who care about you. :grouphug:

I'm guessing by now you actually are feeling much more confident about all of the above. And I probably wouldn't have written because there is little more that i could add to all the good words of wisdom shared with you.

But i do know how it feels to need support and have no one be there. So I just had to join the large crowd of caring people dropping by you to offer a smiling face and warm hug and maybe a pair of bare feet :D to help cheer you up.

One thing i might say briefly and i don't know if you have a particular faith tradition, so i don't want to push anything. But let me just say that if you do, there is probably a part of it, however, untalked about, that celebrates human sexuality and pleasure-giving sexual expression.
Again, if you have a faith tradition, and struggles within that have added to your stress, let me encourage you to explore that side of your faith which may be missing in your teaching so far.
Sorry, if this doesn't help.

Anyway, most important, we all care about you, NickK. And at least here, you have thousands of people around the world who "get it" with you about the whole tickling thing. And that's a whole lotta good.
:bouncybou

Thank you for having the courage to share your struggle with us. I hope all that has been shared by so many good people has helped.

Many blessings, NickK
Chickles_:)

[featherfingers]

Hey, NickK. If Chickles message doesn't cause you to post a reply I really don't know what will. At least you know you've got a family with all of us.

[Tickler Bart]

NickK,
I've lived with my tickle & foot fetish since I was about 5 years old.
This started in 1964. WAY before the internet. I had NO ONE to talk to about it. I've felt like killing myself in the past, when I was in school, especially High School. I had no one to talk to. I couldn't talk to councelors at school, because I was so afraid of what they thought of me afterwards. It might've gotten out & I would be the laughing stock of the entire school. back in the 1970's I would have been sent to a mental institution.
BUT . . today, so many things are accepted that it would be ok to talk to a councelor. they WOULD understand. Who knows, maybe THEY are into different things too. You'd be VERY surprised.
Although I have had 4 brothers & 2 sisters, mom & dad, aunts, uncles, grandmothers (Both grandfathers passed away before I was born) & alot of cousins, I was ALL alone.
I've cried myself to sleep many many nights, wondering why I am so different. But I kept going.
It WILL get better. THIS is NOT the only way life will be for you. It WILL change for the better. It WILL.
Just hang on & be patient.
This, too, shall pass.

[ticklisharmpits]

Nick,

All of us here at TMF love tickling. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Certainly not worth losing your life over. Please know that there is nothing wrong with you. And speaking from experience (I'd rather everyone know about this than to keep it a secret if it will help you) if you have suicidal thoughts or harm yourself in any way, get professional help, like Venray said. Please. Nothing is worth killing yourself over. Please post again, so we know you are ok. :grouphug:

[nenezinho]

I Nick!

It´s the first time I see your post, many have made good points already and I´d probably get boring and tell you all the same. I´ll try and tell you something personal!

For starters! You´ll have to deal with my english mistakes cause I´m portuguese! That´s right!!! Having a tickling fetish is such an unusual thing that we also have it here in Portugal and you have a 23 young portuguese guy answering you in this forum!

Now let´s get to more serious things! You are concerned with your life and feeling different from everyone. I particularly liked the post from Mabudas about Highschool life and something on that line I´ll give you my own experience wich in highschool was pretty bad.

I wasn´t a very popular persson on highscholl and this apart from my tickling fetish wich no one really knew! You know that due to fights among my class and to my personallity I got myself at times almost completely isolated at highschool. There was more then an entire month on wich I was sitting all alone in class with no one seatting on my side cause I was just a non popular guy. One of my best friends even refused to sit on my side and left to sit near the most popular guys (to your surprise that guy is still one of my bestfriends today at 23).
The point is, you think you are different, you´re bloody right!!! we´re all different! I´m not better or worst then anyone else in this forum and neither you are! We are all one unique and complex persson with many personal flaws and many personal atributes. Now Nick, just stay true to yourself, find out what you trully are and live allways acording to that. If you know who you are, if you know what you like, you´ll end up atracting people who like the same things and shares your views. On the contrary, try living like on highschool forever, trying to be like the most popular guys and people will eventually find out you´re just fooling yourself and others.

So about tickling! If you like it, go and do it! Don´t be ashamed! Just do it like something you like and placing no big deal on it. Once you do it as an ordinary and playfull thing no girl will even stop to think "hummmm why is nick tickling me?". And even if a girl asks that question the chance of her dreaming you have a tickling fetish is like less then 1%....they´ll never know if you´re able to do it with no big deal! I can tell you Nick! These days, I tickle almost every girl I happen to know, can´t tell you that i tickle torture everyone cause that´s not whay will happen but i do get my playfull pokes on the ribs and belly all the time!And if they notice I´m getting turned on, they´re just assuming I´m hot because of her bodys or something else! lol You know, even today, I went to the this bar near the beach with 3 girls and on the ride home I placed a few pokes on the ribs and belly of the girl who was travelling on the seat next to me (I was driving), when we were talking about piercings I told her I liked to see bellybutton piercings and demonstrated it by trying to move my fingers on her bellybutton lol Do you think she got mad???? naaaaaaaaaa She already spoke to me on messenger this night, sent me a lot of kisses and said we need to get out again. So this will also answer to your doubts about tickling with girls and relations. Take it casual, but if you like it, please do it!!! A girl will love you more if you´re happy even if she needs to get a few tickles on the way.

I hope you can see that many people out there care for you! I hope you can see that I myself, having a tickling fetish, turned from an unpopular guy at highschool to having a great social life some years latter.

Don´t ever be afraid of staying true to yourself! That´s allways the key!!!

you think we ticklers/lees are strange??? have you already trully looked around you??? just for fun, have you ever trully looked into a picture of Albert Einstein??? ;) Now that guy WAS STRANGE!!! lol looked like a lunatic! someone I wont like to find in a dar alley lol but he was one of the greatest minds in all history of mankind.

Believe in yourself! Stay on your way, the way you choose for yourself based on what you like and care the most. Then, just go forward and you´ll find out there are lots of people makining simillar choices out there, people who will relate to you and love to be with you.

Best of luck from Portugal!

Rui
(it´s not allways I sign my true name, want this one to be personal)

[nobody271]

Like you and many other people here I have been exactly where you are. I have had this fetish since as far back as I remember and sometimes I feel like I'm just cursed, and want to be normal like everyone else. And like you I had my days where I wish it would just all end.

It took me years to have my first serious relationship. For the longest time I thought I was gay because I was not attracted or sexually aroused by many of the norms, such as breast and other normal sexual objects. But I knew I wasn't attracted to guys either. Now although you may never be sexually aroused to the norms quite as much as tickling but overtime you will find that you will be aroused by other things, I know this may sound silly but sometimes just think about tickling when you are going through this stuff, that's what helped me to get started.

But like many others have said already, the best thing to do would be to go seek professional help, they will be able to better answer your questions and hear you out. But you should not feel alone! There are millions and millions of people out there who go through a time in their life when they question their sexuality. I know I do everyday, so don't stress over it, it will work itself out and everything will be alright. If you are in a relationship right now try not to think so much about it just try to do whatever feel's "right". Anyway if you need somebody to talk to you can always email me at psu2004ist@hotmail.com or pm me.
Take Care.
-Chris

[featherfingers]

NickK, you've gotten a lot of responses from a lot of caring concerned people. I haven't looked at the home page to see if you're logged on or not. If you ARE logged on, send us a reply! I needed to get off the computer last night but I was hoping that a reply from you would appear before I logged out. Sometimes I wonder if you're reading our replies and really learning from the great advice, or have you "checked out", so to speak. Leaving us hanging, wondering if you're OK, is... cruel to do to those of us who care for you. I had to say it. Log on and type, "I'm fine", at least. Imagine the replies you'll recieve telling you how relieved we are! C'mon, NickK. Answer us. I just put you on my buddy list. The moment I see that you've logged on, I'll be talking with you.

[ticklisharmpits]

I second featherfingers, send us a reply. Don't keep us hanging. Like I also said in my response, let us know you are ok.

[NickK]

--TMF was down for me last night, otherwise I would have replied--
Well, today, after feeling really down on myself last night, I feel a lot better. Partly because I now see how people actually do care, and partly begining to see what you are saying. Although this still scares the shit outta me, if I were to tell somebody. People may think I was messed up, maybe not. I suppose it would depend on the person. And just so you know, I was not actually planning on ending my own life, the thought passed my mind, but I just said that I hope it would never become such a burden that I would feel the need to do this. I know for sure that I am attracted to girls, I like to think about having sex, as I am so delicately putting it. and I can "get it up" while looking at porn, but certainly not half as fast as with tickling. but with a little more effort, it will. I just hope, REALLY hope that this is not a problem, like people may think that I am dealing with an erectile difficulty. I do not want that, as all the guys here would understand, that is what mostly scares me, that the only way I can have sexual relations, is to tickle, or be tickled. I just want to be able to control what I would like to do, according to the situation. There are also a few questions that I have: Would tickling technically be considered a sin, as something like sex before marriage, this bothers me a little. And what if I can't get it up, the person I am with I rally like, and they are willing to try it, they don't like it, they can't take it, even though they care about me, we can't do shit about it. I just don't know, kind of a broad ended question though. And in closing, an apollogy formy first reply in my own post, it was rude, but I was a little messed up the nigh before last.

[steph]

OMG Nick~
We're just so glad you're ok! NEVER has a stranger scared me so much...Thanx for letting us know you're okay. Have we helped at all honey??
XOXO

[ticklisharmpits]

I think I can safely say we are all very glad you posted and are doing better.

[tickledorange]

like to think about having sex, as I am so delicately putting it. and I can "get it up" while looking at porn, but certainly not half as fast as with tickling

Nah, that's how a lot of people do it, a particular fantasy fets them in the mood for what is actually going to happen.

[featherfingers]

NickK, THANK GOD you are O.K.!!! I've never been so concerned over the life of a stranger as I've been with you! Sorry I couldn't be here when you logged in. I don't think we're supposed to get into religion or anything like that here, but I will say that if tickling were a sin and God had a Top Forty Worst Sins list, tickling wouldn't even be among the top 100 sins. Now if you had to BEAT a woman senseless in order to be sexually fulfilled, then I would hop on a jet, personally visit you and kick your ass. The word 'sin' is sometimes used to scare people into being GOOD. What GOOD means to you means something else entirely to someone else. I once went to a church where the married Pastor had an affair with his secretary, all the while telling the congregation how to behave. YOU,my friend, don't have a problem. I've rambled on long enough, NickK. It's good to have you with us and remember, if you are concerned about sexual matters, there are counselors available who will help you and keep matters private... I've seen one. They are trained to help you. Take it easy. Frank

[tommytikl]

Originally posted by NickK
-- I know for sure that I am attracted to girls, I like to think about having sex, as I am so delicately putting it. and I can "get it up" while looking at porn, but certainly not half as fast as with tickling. but with a little more effort, it will. I just hope, REALLY hope that this is not a problem, like people may think that I am dealing with an erectile difficulty.


Hey NickK...good to hear back from you...
I will say that I have about the same reaction that you do to Porn.
I can look a cute girl in a porn video doing some sexual thing then I certainly get up and going but if that same cute girl were strapped to a X-Frame and tickled you could have clothes on me...
Now if the same cute girl is doing something sexual while tied to the X-Frame then :wow:

My point is this is what gets you off...you just happen to like more than vanilla sex.

Lets take a guy that loves/has a fetish for Big breasts for example...guy watches a porn video and the lady is flat chested...he will not get into the scene as much as if the girl has size F boobs and the girls are doing the same sexual act.
This guy gets off on breasts you happen to get off on tickling a lady..

You both are just different and he just happens to have a "fetish" that is more out there then say tickling...

No tickling is not a sin, is kissing a sin?!
Take it in that light...

Take care man...you sound just like I did in college and I am now 10 years removed from that because of TMF(and other early sites) I don't feel alone and I don't feel like a freak.

Tickle On,
Tommytikl

[nenezinho]

Glad to see you´re ok Nick!

Now...about porno and that stuff....don´t be ashamed if that doesn´t turns you on :p

You know, actually, my friends find it very od that I´m not turned on by porno, not even movies! it might seem strange but it´s true! We are all different and it seems my brain blocks any rush when knowing those girls won´t come out of the screen lol

On the other hand ;) no ex-girlfriend ever complained about anything lol I can tell you that once my body is phisically in touch with a girl everything works pretty good! :p (no real need for tickling)

So, as I said before, try not to make those things a big deal, go out with girls, learn at your own pace and don´t worry unless they all start to show complains on what you´re doing with them.

take care Nick! have fun!!

[CaptainQuantum]

I just saw this thread for the 1st time, and as old as it is, maybe you don't even need any help with this anymore. From your latest posts you seem to be doing better. But just in case....

I didn't take the time to read the replies you got, so maybe someone said something like this already. When I was in high school, I could also get aroused by nothing but the thought of tickling girls. As time went on, I would find myself getting mesmerized by body parts of women that had nothing to do with tickling. When I was maybe 22 or so there was this cute voluptuous little hispanic lady that I worked with who had this big plump butt and always wore tight jeans. Now mind you, I didn't "get it up" unless I thought about tickling her, but her butt definitely had my attention :p Around the same time, I was french kissing with this goth chick that I was out on a date with, and to my surprise after kissing a little, I had a little trouble standing up, if you know what I mean :D So maybe porn doesn't do it for you. Maybe it has to be a real live woman there that you're touching. And you said you can get it up by looking at non-tickling porn? Well I'm 32 and I still can't do that! I can tell you that the thought of making love to a woman "the conventional way" excites me a lot more now than it did when I was in high school. I don't get a hard-on thinking about it usually, but if I was actually in that situation I know I would. Don't know if this helped, or if you even still needed help with it. Just relaying my experiences.

Just a little side note: about the depression and the suicidal thoughts. I don't know how seriously you "wanted to die", but I've been hospitalized 5 times in the last 6 years for suicidal depression. I've come to understand that there are people who can get very down and depressed without thinking about suicide as a possibility, and those who can't. I fall in the latter group. And if the tickling thing isn't getting you down and depressed anymore, sooner or later something else will. That's life. So if you do have a tendency to thing suicidal when you're depressed, I would highly recommend that you get help for that, because you don't have to feel that way.

Phil

[Ticklemmmeeeeee]

Nikk...when I read your opening post I was already formulating something to write to try and help but now I see that everything everyone has posted is nothing less than I could add...(I think that makes sense,lol)

Tommytikl made a great point. There are turn ons and offs for every individual as individual as that individual...how's that for individuality! lol...good luck, you're in good hands (fingers?) here..(sorry I just had to )
peace...
~tm :smilestar :twohugs:

[Red Jester]

You can stop giving advice. This little emo bastard is probably headbanging to Linkin Park somewhere.

[jersey_tickler]

And I'd be head banging with him if that were the case

Nick, my man, I know how it feels to be alone. And I'm not just saying this cause I feel sorry for ya, but feel free to send me a PM anytime if you have a problem or need someone to talk to.
We're cut from the same decks you and me, I know how it feels to think you're different and that you're a freak. But like everyone has said, tickling is harmless compared to rape, bodily harm torture, and physical abuse.

Take care bro, there's a huge life out there way beyond the crap that goes on in high school

[switchtickler]

First off, Nickk, I am a young attractive woman, and I do not have a strong tickle enthusiasm. Adn I don't think that you are a freak. I highly agree with others' advice that you see a councilor, but not just for advice - I think that the act of telling another person that tickling does it for you will be a liberating experience. B/c I promise you, you're going to work up to it, and then finally tell somone that you are turned on by tickling, and they'll say 'uh-huh. . . ' cause they'll still be waiting for the big scary thing that you wanted to tell them. And once you see on another person's face that you don't disgust them, there will be more room in your heart for acceptance.

And as for hard ons, they are never predicable for younger men! Be generous with yourself and give yourself space and time to grow into the great lover you are meant to become.

And as for women, they want a man who is thoughtful and attentive and really enjoys them. Passionate, fun. . . you can do all of this and be really into tickling. women are turned off by selfish assholes, not specific enthusiasms.

[WorkInProgress]

I just want to add one note, based on my knowledge of schools. The counselor most readily available may or may not be the one who can help you. School counselors are sometimes caught up in the conventional, conformist world, and may or may not have any comprehension of, or empathy with, the world of fetishes and sexual variation. They may or may not understand what you're trying to tell them, and may brush it off as a silly little hangup. I'm not predicting anything negative, I'm just saying, try to find a counselor whom you can trust to take your feelings seriously on their own terms.

And listen, when I was a senior in high school I was in a panic about my sexuality too. High school is a real crucible of conformist pressure, and it's easy to think, when you're in high school, that the way you're feeling now is what it's going to be like for the rest of your life. When it comes to tickling and sexuality, you have some things to figure out, and it's imperative that you give yourself time and patience rather than despairing that the riddles aren't all being answered for you now.

Good luck, and feel free to E-mail me at workinprogress62@yahoo.com . I have very vivid memories of high school life and emotions, and have done some creative writing on the subject, so I'd be glad to correspond with you. As for the "sin" question, I'd be glad to correspond with you about that, too.