dillema!!

[vryticklishfeet]

ive encountered a situation that im sure most of the guys will find familliar,, i met this girl,, she is awesome! has most everything i want in a girl,, drop dead gorgeous! drives brand new mustang 5.0 ( not a requirement lol ) owns her own condo ( again not a requirement ) she is of all things A MASSAGE THERAPIST! so i was thinking things were going to be pleasantly interesting to say the least,, we have been on 2 dates,, we clicked immediately and had everything in common including the kissing match! ( the abillity to kiss each other the way we want to be kissed ) incredibly into each other the possibilities seemed limitless!! she even had great feet with cute toes a major plus for me! : ),, the add she answered even had all of my likes ( fetishes ) posted in it so i thought it was already taken care of,, she is extremely ticklish! the problem is she is not into feet in any way at all and doesnt want to be tickled! everything else is perfect except the two things that drive me crazy! so the problem here is what to do? do i be with her because everything else is perfect? do i sneak tickles in? do i try to convert her? is it an impossible idea? if i try will she think im a perv and dump me? im tired of being so picky! i have been with girls who werent into the foot or tickle thing and somehow it worked ( for awhile anyway ) so what do i do here? do i spend the rest of my life trying to find what all guy tickler and footfetish guys want? take the chance that i will be old and lonely? do i hook up with a woman who i dont find attractive just because she is into feet and tickling? would i be happy with that? it seems that every woman i find that likes feet and tickling happens to be extremely unnatractive ; ( why is that? and the woman who arent into my fetishes always seem to be drop dead gorgeous! is it that i want what i cant have?? anyone have any constructive ideas here?

[lergirl69]

I'm thinking if she replied to your ad that listed your tickling fetish, than she might be cool with it. Why not sit down and talk with her and asked her why she did respond, if she hates tickling? Maybe she has fears of being taken advantage of, etc. You won't know until you talk with her.

If it doesn't work with her, maybe stop looking for the "drop dead gorgeous" ticklephile. There are many different people into tickling with all different levels of attractiveness. I understand physical attraction is important, but I've found that someone who loves tickling becomes more attractive because we share a mutual interest and they "get it". But again, that's just me. Good luck finding your gal! :)

[vryticklishfeet]

i dunno,, its the dual nature of my life,, being bruce wayne with his wants and desires then being batman and dealing with that,, i dont consider myself to be a guy who goes for looks only and i know i came off wrong in the post,, i have met women who excited me to the limit who werent exactly my " type " and i respect what you say,, the truth of it is there arent many girls close by who share my interests,,the only 2 ive chatted with dont seem very genuine,, something is not right there,,something not seen lol anyway a guy has to work with what is available,, when i list my fetishes for some reason woman think im just being " cute " which really sucks : (,, i am ready for a commited relationship so i would like to find a gilr who has most of the qualities i admire,, granted the foot and tickling thing are the most intense but i would feel terrible if all of the other things diddnt connect as well,,, i dunno,, it feels like a losing battle half the time as well as frustrating

[kis123]

Okay vry;

I have to introduce you to the "if only" factor. Listen closely, for this will bless you in a major way! You'll thank me for this later, I promise you!;)

Everything else is perfect, right? "IF ONLY" she was into tickling? Didn't you put that in the ad she answered? Yet she's not into the thing you advertised. You may want to really consider your options because if you're a true ticklephile, IF ONLY is not going to do! Unless you want to spend months, years, or the rest of your life not being satisfied in your pleasure/fetish, it's not worth pursuing.

Besides, she read the ad, answered it, now isn't into your fetish. What else has she not disclosed about herself. Do you want to find out the hard way??? Run now while you still can and before you really fall for her. Unless you're willing to suppress your fetish for her benefit, it may not work for you and you're on the way to becoming hurt and frustrated.

I wish I had better news for you. But being female and probably older than you, I've lived long enough to recognize an unfairly stacked deck when I see one. Good luck to you and your decision.

[IwillTickleU]

I agree, seeing how she answered your ad is great and the way u had described her shes seems really cute and nice, but because she isnt into feet or tickling doesnt mean u have to cast her away and go to someone just because she has the same fetishes. This girl could be the best thing to happen to you. There is an old say "Every incident in a persons life effects everything that follows it" meaning that there is a reason she answered that ad. Stick with her. Take my wife for example her feet are not ticklish at all but I love her anyway :) and of course get in a few sneaky tickles, and tickle her feet for me :) Best of luck either way

Steve

[tactillianlover]

Hi 'V',


IF she is an accredited massage pro, then she has
rubbed some tootsies. Maybe her feet are ultra
sensitive or majorly errogenous(I can't spell).

Give it a little while- Chemistry good!

I know a gal with such feet- ONLY her man may touch
her feet.

[vryticklishfeet]

thats the thing,, she has great feet and they are extremely ticklish! i was able to sneak a couple of tickles in here and there cause she was wearing strappy sandals on our last date,, she has an awesome laugh,, in fact she is always laughing ,, i told her that she has a wonderful laugh and that it makes me crazy lol! and that hasnt stopped her from laughing, i barely touched her foot at a point durring our second date and she burst out laughing,, i think its what she says that throws me off,, she said a couple of times when i brought up my foot fetish that she wasnt into it,, so i really dont know how to take that,,i told her that she diddnt really have to be " into it " i said that it wasnt necessary that she have a foot fetish,, i think some girls when they here that you have a fetish for feet think that you expect them to play with your feet,, which would be nice but not really expected,, i think i need to clarify the fetish to her,,,

and oh ya!! i forgot to say this before but she always has her best friend linda with her when we meet at the club near her home and her friend linda is extremely ticklish! we hit it off right away the first time i met her and she even tickled my ribs! i went crazy laughing and then attacked her and she screamed " im ticklish! " and ran around the pool table trying to get away from me lol! she is cute and i know that she would indulge the fetish,, and she is looking for a boyfriend,, but i met her friend dawn first and i dont play the switch game so i have to deal with it i guess,, i wouldnt want to mess things up with one girl just to indulge with the other,, a bit ironic i thought though that i would meet a girl who doesnt like to be tickled but has a best friend who loves tickling : (

[kis123]

Please don't think that I'm trying to tell you what to do. I'm just wondering how many exceptions you're willing to make and for how long before you post how frustrated and unfulfilled you are because you're not getting in or giving enough tickling. Let's face it, physical compatibility is important and if tickling is part of your make up, it just is.

I don't disagree with anyone else on this board. I'm simply trying to bring your feet back to the ground and get you to start thinking rationally and realistically. I've been swept off my feet before and it sounds like you're going very fast. Only two dates? Slow it down and make some assessments before you get in too deep.

[vryticklishfeet]

i always appreciate advise from fellow tickle lovers,, i hear what your saying and im sure you are right to a degree,, i happen to be at a point in my life where i am seriously looking for " the " relationship of a lifetime,, ive dated plenty so i basically know what im looking for now its just a matter of finding it i guess

[Dutchess]

She may get into the tickling scene over time so be patient with her. She did answer your ad, so I would give it time and see where it leads. Good luck. The Dutchess

[gig1965]

Very simple...talk to her.
Let her know how much it means to you, and how much SHE means to you as well.

[vryticklishfeet]

honesty is always the best policy,,

[Darkknight]

VTF,

Honesty is everything, I feel for you and let me tell you about two gals I dated then they became girlfriends (of course ex's now for other reasons)....

The first hated feet, she was disgusted by foot guys and found this out one time when I tried to take her shoe off when we were messing around. I was like... oh man. But as we dated she would tell me how her friend loved foot guys and tried to explain how awesome they were to my girlfriend. She had tried for years with no luck. Than one day I said screw it and was honest with my girlfriend, unfortunately she wasn't ticklish but she let me play with her feet and to try to tickle them with my fingers and tongue. After a while she was fine and said her friend would die if she ever knew how she lets me play with her feet. She didn't love it but she no longer hated her feet or foot guys. We broke up but I opened the door for some lucky foot guy in the future. :)

And the last serious girlfriend I had.. well she had a strange phobia of having her soles touched, it induced a fear of her soles ripping open. I know.. it kinda freaked me out as she was telling me. Well.. she mentioned for that reason she never got a foot massage or knew if her feet were ticklish. Some time went on as we dated then in a relationship, I again said... I gotta tell her about me and told her about my tickle fetish and feet being my fav spot. She was really cool and understanding and I said I would just tickle her soles with my tongue since fingernails really made her phobia make her sick. She said it might feel good to have a tongue on her soles. She did let me softly tickle her soles (with socks on) and she told me that's the first time she ever let anyone do that and that it really tickled. I was like... awesome. About a month later she let me use my tongue but she was on her belly so I couldn't see her face, she didn't react much and then after 1-2 minutes she asked me to stop cuz her phobia was kicking in. I broke up with her too but not cuz of this.

My point is... you can't beat being completely honest with a gal, I was nervous but I told them how much I loved tickling and tickling feet. They felt my sincerity and got to try something no one ever did before on them. Be honest, you never know. Good luck!

DK

[TummyDragon]

I do absolutely think you should have a heart to heart with her right away. I can't fathom for the life of me why a woman would have answered your ad which listed your fetishes, and then tell you "oh, I'm not into that". Either she's teasing you, she's a blithering idiot, or she never actually read the ad before responding (see preceding comment).

Either way bro, if she's *really* not into it, cut your losses with her now before things get the least bit serious. You could always disappear for a bit, and then run into the "friend" in a month or so and ask her out. No harm no foul as long as you don't get at all serious with this first girl.

[kis123]

Originally posted by TummyDragon
I do absolutely think you should have a heart to heart with her right away. I can't fathom for the life of me why a woman would have answered your ad which listed your fetishes, and then tell you "oh, I'm not into that". Either she's teasing you, she's a blithering idiot, or she never actually read the ad before responding (see preceding comment).

Either way bro, if she's *really* not into it, cut your losses with her now before things get the least bit serious. You could always disappear for a bit, and then run into the "friend" in a month or so and ask her out. No harm no foul as long as you don't get at all serious with this first girl.

:bowing: :bowing: :bowing: :bowing:

That's what I'm talkin' about!!! About time someone spoke the truth! I asked the same question myself. Talk about a setup from the beginning. Does she think she'll change him? Does she think he'll pack his fetish away just to be with her? He advertised it in print for goodness sake? That's like me answering an ad for a man who advertised he wanted petite caucasian women only!!!! Doesn't make much sense for my African-American BBW self to answer that ad, does it???

Women set these kinds of things up all of the time (some men do it to, but not as much as women). They think they can change a man or get him to cross over to her view. When he doesn't change, then, she becomes disillusioned and frustrated wondering what went wrong. Unless she is willing to change her mind, this is a potential disaster in the making. You have to observe the "IF ONLY" factor. If not, you're going to be miserable in the long run.

[vryticklishfeet]

Originally posted by TummyDragon
I do absolutely think you should have a heart to heart with her right away. I can't fathom for the life of me why a woman would have answered your ad which listed your fetishes, and then tell you "oh, I'm not into that". Either she's teasing you, she's a blithering idiot, or she never actually read the ad before responding (see preceding comment).

Either way bro, if she's *really* not into it, cut your losses with her now before things get the least bit serious. You could always disappear for a bit, and then run into the "friend" in a month or so and ask her out. No harm no foul as long as you don't get at all serious with this first girl. man im tellin ya! its a fine line with the add thing,,, ive had many responses but i suspect they were for physical reasons and they completely disregarded my fetishes lol,, most girls i meet who answered the add when asked what they thought about what i said in the add always say the same friggin thing! " oh,, i thought you were just being cute " arrrrrggggghhhh!!! the fine line comes with how you state it if the entire add says nothing else and just deals with the fetish and nothing else then most girls wont answer because they figure you are an obsessed perv! lol and when you list the fetish smong your other interests it somehow gets lost in the mix! i dont know how many times a girl would email me and when i said what did you like most about the add they would never ever mention the foot or tickling thing! why does it get lost like that?? are they just breezing over it and looking at the pic and not paying attention to what i like?? you would think if a person was interested in you that they would want to know your interests???? its funny and yet NOT FUNNY! lol!!

[ShyInVegas]

Originally posted by vryticklishfeet
the truth of it is there arent many girls close by who share my interests,,the only 2 ive chatted with dont seem very genuine,, something is not right there,,something not seen lol anyway a guy has to work with what is available,, when i list my fetishes for some reason woman think im just being " cute " which really sucks : (,, i am ready for a commited relationship so i would like to find a gilr who has most of the qualities i admire,, granted the foot and tickling thing are the most intense but i would feel terrible if all of the other things diddnt connect as well,,, i dunno,, it feels like a losing battle half the time as well as frustrating

Wow, I am very sorry to hear that. I hope it all works out for you- good luck.

[steph]

My instincts are telling me "head games". I'd proceed cautiously so as not to get burned...

XOXO

[TicklishSinner]

damn you got yourself a pickle...i say take Tummy Dragon and Kis's advice it seems the most logical and it is better to get things out in the open at first rather than having to back track and try to change things about yourself later or what not...hope that made sense

[TummyDragon]

I think Kis hit the nail on the head with the "if only" factor. I don't know you very well vry, but, I have read your posts on this forum as well as the newsgroups and you come across as a respectful gentleman and one deserving of a beautiful fulfulling partner in life. Finding a mate is rather like climbing a pyramid. The closer you get to the top, the closer you are to a match, so the 'if only' factor gets smaller and smaller. But the thing to remember is that you really don't *have* to settle for anything less than exactly what you want. There is a perfect woman (probably a thousand) out there who looks exactly the way you like, has the personality you desire, the 'kiss compatibality', and shares the fetishes you crave. I truly believe people blow it when they get "close" to what they really want and then settle for the last little compromises of the "if only" factor.

Be patient, patient, patient. You will absolutely find the top stone of the pyramid if you don't allow yourself to chase a false but *almost* match. Communication is the absolute, most important topic here. This lady *may* really love tickling in the long run, however, if she's not open to it now, don't expect her to miraculously change at some point down the road. And, if those urges within you go unfilfulled, well, I think in your heart you know how that will feel to you.

Anyway, I wish you the absolute best of luck with your search and leave you with this one thought.... she's out there, vry, don't settle for anyone other that *her*.

[vryticklishfeet]

well,, after reading all of the responses to my dillema post ive decided that the " get it all out in the open " policy would be the best one,, i have my 3rd date with her this friday nite,, its the first time we will be alone,, i will be making her dinner at her condo in summerlin,, our other 2 dates consisted of clubbing with her friends,, not the time or place to get into my fetishes in detail,,but friday will be a different story we will be alone for the first time,, i am going to make it nice,, im bringing long stem roses,, scented candals,, a romantic cd i burned from various cds i own,, not too mushy but something to set the mood : ) a bottle of absolute,, 2 newyork steaks,, ( from the butcher not the supermarket ) ,, im hoping that when we are sitting on her couch sipping vodka and cranberry juice listening to dido etc,,that the mood will be right for conversation on the subject of my foot and tickling fetishes,, i think she is thinking that because i have a foot fetish that it requires more from her than it actually does,,im going to explain to her that it is an extremely powerful " button " that she can push whenever she wants to drive me absolutely wild!,,ill tell her that all she has to do is be receptive,,that all it means is me giving her awesome foot massages,, and playfull lil kitchy koo tickles,, no hard stuff no chains or whips,,that its not as bad as she thinks,,ill explain to her that it is a HUGE turn on for me and that i would do my best to accomodate her with things that she finds exciting ,,i am pretty sure that after she hears what it intails that she will be relieved and maybe a lil excited by the idea after she realizes that it doesnt involve as much as i am sure she thinks it does,,the big step will be just getting her to relax,, once i get a positive vibe from her ill offer a foot massage, ill keep the tickles for the end,, and keep them playfull at first so she can get used to the idea,,then ill go from there,, if the date goes well then i will feel better about things and it will proceed from there,, if i get a bad vibe and she gives me negative vibes after everything else then i will make my decision from there,, i have come to the conclusion that my fetish is important to me and that i can and will comprimise but wont throw it out the window because its a huge part of my life and that would be like throwing a huge part of my happiness out the window with it,, i will be tottaly honest with her and be very patient as well, if she is willing to give a lil then i will give as well,,

i want to thank all you guys for your positive remarks and the great advice,, if interested i will post the results of our date on saturday : )

[kis123]

Yeah, now that's what I'm talking about! I think you have a plan that is reasonable. Personally, I hope everything turns out the way you desire it to. She seems like a nice young lady that you like very much. Wish you well. BTW, save some of that steak for me!!:D

[vryticklishfeet]

thanks for the positive reinforcement,,im hoping that the setting will be helpfull,, afterall when you are in your own familliar surroundings you feel alot more comfortable than when you are out in public and with friends,,im thinking she will feel more secure about everything in her own invironment where she feels in controll

[tommytikl]

Hey Vryticklish...just an added word of advice.
Great idea with the dinner and stuff alone.

What I would suggest is that you also offer a back rub also, and not just a foot rub, otherwise you may be focusing TOO much attention to her feet at first...also let her know that it is her and her reactions to the tickling that is turning you on, more than just the skin below her ankles.
Otherwise she may end up feeling no more important than the steak dinner you just enjoyed...

Just a thought...good luck man!

Can't wait to hear the "results":)

[vryticklishfeet]

thats true! a back massage would be great as well,, im a bit intimidated at the fact that she is a massage therapist and might be grading me or something lol but i give a great massage even though im not a pro so ill be doing my best : )

[featherfingers]

Originally posted by tommytikl
Hey Vryticklish...just an added word of advice.
Great idea with the dinner and stuff alone.

What I would suggest is that you also offer a back rub also, and not just a foot rub, otherwise you may be focusing TOO much attention to her feet at first...also let her know that it is her and her reactions to the tickling that is turning you on, more than just the skin below her ankles.
Otherwise she may end up feeling no more important than the steak dinner you just enjoyed...

Just a thought...good luck man!

Can't wait to hear the "results":)

I agree with tommytikl. Since she knows about your fetish, offering her a foot massage might make her suspect you're up to something. You've got an "ulterior motive", she'll assume. Pay attention to her entirely, maybe offer that back massage. If she gets really relaxed, maybe then you can reach for her feet. But Kis and Tummy are right, too. All the time you spend trying to get to her feet, you could be spending with a lady who would appreciate your fetish.

[tickleshotel]

vryticklish I'd love to hear how your date went on friday:D I hope it went great for you!

[vryticklishfeet]

first id like to say sorry for not getting back right away with the details of my date on friday,, im sitting here right now extremely unsure of my feelings and where to begin with it all,,if its possible i think im even feeling a bit heart broken,, and i dont know exactly why,, the date started off well enough and i guess i had a building anxiety throughout the evening because everything was so perfect! it had me remembering a saying,, " be carefull what you wish for,, you just might get it ",, our conversation that night was fast and furious! we both couldnt believe how simmilar we were,, and how much in common we had,, it was scary! everything seemed pre destined! everything she said excited me to a level that hasnt been achieved before,,it was like she could read my mind,, as the evening went on we talked about relationships,, love,, sex!!,, all of the things we wanted,, some things i feel uncomfortable discussing because they were of a sexual nature,, but she was speaking my language and big time!,,not only did we discuss my fetishes but she was completely excepting and turned on by them once she knew what they encompassed, she even started teasing me with her feet! she kept running her toes up and down my calf! the look in her eyes was intoxicating! she made me feel bold by the kinds of things she was saying,,we even touched on a taboo subject of swingers clubs! how we both would love to interract with others but with limmits! she was daring and sexual!she was possesive of her man but not in a way that was unatractive! she had me so worked up that i even told her about the TMF!! and about wanting to go to tickling gatherings with her and how exciting it would be to watch her being tickled! she seemed tottaly interested,, her eyes were lit up like two flames! she kept saying how excited she would be knowing that it would be driving me crazy seeing her being tickled! she is extremely ticklish and has an awesome laugh so she is definately a choice ticklee! and would drive any tickler nuts! everything was going at hyperspeed! in the back of my head i knew we should slow down but she was setting the pace! i was just following her lead! she is not like any girl ive ever met,, and thats what scares me the most! now it is so important for me to be with her that it scares me!,, the evening continued till late that night,, she invited me to spend the night,, we agreed that a 3rd date would be too early for sex since we both wanted so much more than that so we controlled the passion as best we could,,we were talking in her bedroom and i kept getting the feeling that she wanted to hear me say " the words"!!! you know? the " i love you " thing,, she was dropping huge hints,, im a very perceptive guy and havnt been wrong in a situation like this before,, everything she said told me she wanted to hear those words,, so i did it!!!!! and you know what???

she turned cold!!!!!!there was an uneasy silence as we were laying in her bed,, no snuggles,, no cuddles,, no spoons,,all night long i lay there next to her,, no physical contact,, the words that came so easily earlier were now gone,, replaced by awkward silence! i was staring at the ceiling and cursing myself! why did i say that?? why diddnt i wait till she said it first?? why did she want to know how i truly feel if she was going to be upset by what she heard,, finnaly the day breaks,, her alarm goes off,, she reaches over and nudges me in a way that i found to be insensitive,, i get up quickly,, put on my pants and shoes and go to the livingroom,,im looking at the couch that we sat on all night having such awesome conversation,, then i wondered how many guys sat on that couch and heard the same stuff,, she walks in and yawns,, mumbles that she has to get ready for work,, she gives me a very uneasy hug and its out the door i go,, there are thick black clouds in the sky and it feels cold,, i shiver and think to myself,, " well,, this is an appropriate morning for how i feel,, its a long drive home,,i am numb,,,not sure what to think anymore,,when i get home i wait all day for a call from her thanking me for the long stem roses,, and the dinner,, nothing,, and nothing the next day,, so like an idiot i call her,, she makes small talk and seems to be rushed,, so i say goodbye,,,,

im sorry if this all seems emotional and stupid,, i guess it kinda is at that,,

[kis123]

Vry,

I don't really have to tell you that you NEVER discover love on the 3rd date, do I? If you really want to deal with the emotional roller coaster, you can always call her in a couple of days and try to find out what's going on. She might just be an emotional junkie borderline bi-polar who gets off on bringing you to extreme highs and crashing lows. Be careful with your next move. I hope things turn out well for you.

[steph]

Oh dear...I was afraid of this happening~see my first response to you. My brain doesn't function at sensible 100% but my instincts have always been dead on. (I've predicted the death of friends, firings, relationships, etc.) Do be careful? I'd hate to see you get hurt. Again, I feel this is someone who plays games. Maybe slow it down a bit?

XOXO

[The Sean Man]

One of the laws of the universe: If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Take your time with this, dude.

The Sean Man

[TummyDragon]

and hearing the entire conversation in the bedroom... It sounds to me like she was enthralled with passion, perhaps wanting you to express your *desire* for her, or even wanting you to "take" her. I can't imagine a woman wanting to hear "i love you" on the first date you have alone with her, unless as Steph mentions, she's playing you. There's very little that will extinguish the fire of lust faster than those three words prematurely. You're certainly in a tough spot now because once you say it, it can't be unsaid.

You can possibly save the situation though. Especially since you were both in a very passionate state that night prior to that point. Here's what I would do, I'd wait several days and then contact her again and simply apologize for saying it.

Tell her point blank something like this (preferably in person with intense eye contact), "I should have never said "I love you". I hardly even know you. I love everything I've learned about you so far, but honestly, I don't love you. I was totally overwhelmed by our connection and since you are the only woman with whom I've had such an instant connection, I completely lost my head there. It won't happen again. You are someone I could possibly grow to love at some point in the future, but not now... blah blah blah etc "

It may or may not work. You may well have to chalk this one up as a learning experience.

Honesty is the best policy (you know you don't love a woman after three dates, infatuated yes, but you're not in love). Never hand your emotions to any woman on a platter like that. If you want her to love you so much it's ridiculous, then be emotionally aloof but physically tender... for a while. Don't try to anticipate what you think she wants to hear, just be the coolest guy in the world when you are with her (which of course, you are, right?) and let her have her dreams of you when you aren't with her and let her find her emotional bearings on her own terms in her own time.

If you can talk with her about it, just say your piece and then leave her alone to ponder it and you for several days.

[dtrell]

Originally posted by kis123
Vry,

I don't really have to tell you that you NEVER discover love on the 3rd date, do I? If you really want to deal with the emotional roller coaster, you can always call her in a couple of days and try to find out what's going on. She might just be an emotional junkie borderline bi-polar who gets off on bringing you to extreme highs and crashing lows. Be careful with your next move. I hope things turn out well for you.

i dont want to be insensitive here, but in general, anyone male or female that tells another person on their third date that they love them, deserves whatever happens. you cannot possibly love someone after meeting them 3 times. kis is absolutely right. it may be too late to talk to her however. you cant unexplode a bomb. once a woman is turned off, theyre off.

[2ticklishsoles]

:) I would suggest that you allow her to get to know you even more and then try giving her feet a feather treatment sometime. Even if she is insanely ticklish on her tootsies, she may still enjoy you tickling her. I have always had an attraction to my feet, but I have only allowed my bf to tickle them extensively. I did not let him tickle my feet until I knew I could trust him. I am sure she trusts you and everything, but she may need a little more time before submitting herself to an intense tickle-treatment. This is why I suggest using feathers on her feet and see what happens. If you go slow with her, she may become very arroused after enough stimulation and begin to love every minute of it. If she never allows you to tickle her, then just love and pamper her feet. I am sure she will not mind that.

[tommytikl]

Perfectly stated TummyDragon...

Its not easy but try backing up the horse...Yep you jumped the gun, you were "in the zone" and got the, maybe, wrong signals...but like Tummy said...just confess it.
Yeah, after 3 dates and this one alone, to say you love her is well quick and as the situation seems, she sent you tooo many signals as well.

Just take a step back and try to fix the situation...as long as YOU realize you jumped the gun then I think things will work out...but keep Kis's comments in the back of your head...she might be playing you.


Best of luck man!
You got thrown out at first but maybe you can get to second at the next at bat...

[vryticklishfeet]

as much as it hurts to admit i am laughing right now lol! i cant believe i said what i did,, i knew better,, i knew better,, i knew better,, actually i spoke with my dad today and told him about it ( minus the tickling thing ),, and even my dad laughed and said it was stupid lol! he even squeezed more lemon juice on the paper cut by saying that i couldnt possibly be his son and that no son of his would be that stupid! lol! he was kidding of course ( wait,, no he wasnt : (,, anyway tummy dragon where were you with that perfect advice before i made a complete idiot of myself! i guess the best sdvice comes after the crash and not before lol! man i was dumb! i came off like a dopey and desperate fool when that is the last thing i am,, however,, the best lessons learned are always from the most painfull mistakes i guess,,

i wanna thank everyone for not just jumping on the " your an idiot " band wagon lol! all of your advice was dead on and absolutely correct! from now on im gonna listen to the advice before i jump off the cliff

sincerely,, charles,,

( the love dummy )

[vryticklishfeet]

well i just got home and checked my e-mail,, i had an e-mail from the girl ive been talking about here,, the heading of her mail said " this is not a nice e-mail " lol!! so you can imagine how i felt when i opened it,, im not going to go into what she said but from what i read i feel better because she is definately insane! she rambled on and on about things that had nothing to do with me,, and the language? well ill just say im going to be putting a word filter on my e-mail from now on lol! she hit me with every psycotic remark she could think of,, i actually felt relief! i couldnt believe what a whack job she turned out to be and im not expressing a " sour grapes " deal here she is tottaly nutsy koo koo!! well at least it exploded early on before i could really get myself into trouble

[tommytikl]

See tell a woman you love them and they change LOL:D

Better to find out 3 dates in that she is psycho rather than later on...
Figures she's crazy ticklish ;)

Oh well burned but lesson learned...

[tickleshotel]

Vry , I am glad that you found out now that this girl you spoke of was pyscho now...I do believe things happen for a reason and things came out for the best for you ..I know how passionate you are about your tickling having had conversations,Im's with you,and don;t give up ..the ticklish lady that loves being tickled is out there somewhere..Don;t give up,but take some time and be careful about handing your heart on a silver platter after 3 dates...:) I'm sure this has been a learning experience for you..always know that you have friends here that care :D :twohugs:

[tickleshotel]

Just an update to all reading this thread, yesterday vryticklishfeet said he needed someone to talk to and I was available to talk on phone so he called me and we had quite a long conversation and sharing some laughs so I am happy to report that vryticklishfeet was doing much better and after talking on the phone to me ,I believe vryticklishfeet had a smile on his face and in a good mood :) .

[vryticklishfeet]

i have to take this opportunity to say how thankfull i am for a friend like laurie ( tickleshotel ) i was hurting and she saw that,, i needed someone who understood me and she was there for me,,i love this place! it gave me a friend like laurie who knows where im coming from,, she was patient and listened to me ramble on and on just like a true friend does,,she diddnt judge,, diddnt find fault with me she just listened to what was bothering me and gave me wonderfull advice : ) it made me feel so much better about everything! i had a whole new perspective after speaking with her and it made me feel great!,, we have chatted before about this and that and this was the first time we have spoken,, she was very friendly and helped me to find my center,,laurie if you read this i just want to say thank you : )

[kis123]

vry,

I don't think there is anyone on this board who hasn't been unlucky in love at some point. I don't think there isn't anyone on this board that hasn't been burned or mistreated by someone we allowed in our hearts too soon. You aren't the first, and you'll won't be the last. At least you didn't hide away in some depressed funk-you trusted the members of this forum to your innermost intimate feelings. I'm glad someone was able to come through for you during this time of your life.

I hope you will always find someone here with who understands you and are able to connect with at some level. I hope the next time you date, you follow your head first and move slowly. I wish you a fast recovery from your broken heart.

[vryticklishfeet]

i always appreciate the support of my fellow ticklers,,,,

[tickleshotel]

Originally posted by vryticklishfeet
i have to take this opportunity to say how thankfull i am for a friend like laurie ( tickleshotel ) i was hurting and she saw that,, i needed someone who understood me and she was there for me,,i love this place! it gave me a friend like laurie who knows where im coming from,, she was patient and listened to me ramble on and on just like a true friend does,,she diddnt judge,, diddnt find fault with me she just listened to what was bothering me and gave me wonderfull advice : ) it made me feel so much better about everything! i had a whole new perspective after speaking with her and it made me feel great!,, we have chatted before about this and that and this was the first time we have spoken,, she was very friendly and helped me to find my center,,laurie if you read this i just want to say thank you : )

Thank you! :) It was really a pleasure talking to you and the same thoughts,feelings you had about finding and chatting,meeting someone that shared your same interests ..I felt the same way,like when someone posts a personal here or at match.com.DO people seriously read every word comphrending (spelling) what that person is seeking..whether a penpal,email pal,relationship??.At match.com I can;t speak for everyone but alot of people won;t read the profile,ect if that person posting the ad doesn;t have a picture..But why then,can someone please intrique me on why if you have a pic on your profile,people answering your ad don;t scroll down reading about what you enjoy,dislike,ect..
Vryticklish,you think you rambled on?? Not a chance!,look at this!)