Are heavy women more into tickling then thin women? [Archive]

BellaRisa

10-13-2004, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by jugner
Honestly, what was the point of saying that?

Kis had the same point that you did, to express her opinion on a comment that was made. That's what this forum is for. Furthermore, saying "maybe generally" did little to lessen the sting of your comment regarding non-skinny ladies and the possible lack of male attention we receive (which, btw, is a myth.) I don't think you meant to be insensitive, but you kinda were.

I have to say that as a 6 yr veteran of the tickling, spanking and other BDSM communities I've noticed that thinner women are indeed harder to come by. This has nothing to do with sensitivity, but more because of shyness and fear. I know it sounds odd, but it's always the slimmer ladies that I have to coax out of the corners and shadows at my tickling or spanking parties, they're afraid no one wants to play because the juicier girls are so popular. Seriously. The more voluptuous girls seem to be having all the fun, (this is as much because often the guys already know them as because of their lovely figures) and I think the smaller ladies are more easily intimidated. This is just my observation, it's a fascinating question that bears pondering.

Bella

jugner

10-13-2004, 06:22 PM

Yes it is. But your statement gave the implication that you thought I was saying this is the way it is with all bigger women. Your words implied that you were 'setting me straight'. I was giving a general opinion. I'm probably making too mch of it, I just don't like it when people take things I say as something very different than the way I intended.

BlackmoonDoll

10-13-2004, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by chrisheaven
don't think it makes a lot of difference thin or unthin!

i agree with Chris on that. it doesn't matter and make no difference. and i really honest can't believe we are having this conversion topic still?

metroguy2k4

10-13-2004, 07:36 PM

I agree with Bella. It is a worthwhile and interesting topic. I find the demographics of tickling fascinating. So far I've observed, as mentioned in this and previous posts, that:

1) There are more male lers and more female lees.
2) Big folks, or at least big girls, tend to comprise a disproportionate amount of the tickling population.
3) Just looking at the TMF personals section shows you that most people into tickling are on the coasts, not in the middle of the country.

There's a 4th trend I've noticed, but I haven't heard anyone talk about it, and that's a cultural difference in tickling. Back in high school when I was first discovering my tickling fetish, there was this group of African-American girls who loved to go around and gang-tickle the guys. To this day, I find that African-American girls are much more open to the topic of tickling than Caucasian girls. Anyone else notice such a difference?

BlackmoonDoll

10-13-2004, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by metroguy2k4
I agree with Bella. It is a worthwhile and interesting topic. I find the demographics of tickling fascinating. So far I've observed, as mentioned in this and previous posts, that:

1) There are more male lers and more female lees.
2) Big folks, or at least big girls, tend to comprise a disproportionate amount of the tickling population.
3) Just looking at the TMF personals section shows you that most people into tickling are on the coasts, not in the middle of the country.

There's a 4th trend I've noticed, but I haven't heard anyone talk about it, and that's a cultural difference in tickling. Back in high school when I was first discovering my tickling fetish, there was this group of African-American girls who loved to go around and gang-tickle the guys. To this day, I find that African-American girls are much more open to the topic of tickling than Caucasian girls. Anyone else notice such a difference?

Black girls are more open to the idea and topic of tickling then white girls? why would that be the case? interesting. why do you feel that way metroguy

metroguy2k4

10-13-2004, 07:51 PM

Well, like I said, it's just something I've noticed over time. This is especially true with female lers. As a male lee, I'm generally on the prowl for girls who like to tickle, and I've noticed that it's much easier to get black girls to talk about tickling. There have been a number of times when I've found a way to get tickling into a conversation with a black girl and she'll start telling me all about how she loves to tickle her boyfriend or whatever. White girls just tend to be more uneasy about the whole subject.

BlackmoonDoll

10-13-2004, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by metroguy2k4
Well, like I said, it's just something I've noticed over time. This is especially true with female lers. As a male lee, I'm generally on the prowl for girls who like to tickle, and I've noticed that it's much easier to get black girls to talk about tickling. There have been a number of times when I've found a way to get tickling into a conversation with a black girl and she'll start telling me all about how she loves to tickle her boyfriend or whatever. White girls just tend to be more uneasy about the whole subject.

yeah i would agree. that white girls do tend to be uneasy and put off by the whole tickling idea and topic. why? i don't know! that is just something that i have noticed as well. even online i have more white girls tend to ignore you and are just down right rude to you when you bring of the topic and discussion of tickling to there attention.

kis123

10-13-2004, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by jugner
Yes it is. But your statement gave the implication that you thought I was saying this is the way it is with all bigger women. Your words implied that you were 'setting me straight'. I was giving a general opinion. I'm probably making too mch of it, I just don't like it when people take things I say as something very different than the way I intended.

If I thought you were trying to be insulting, I would've simply said so. I don't like playing head games with people and I don't tend to mince words. If I felt insulted, I just would've came out with it. I don't want to turn this into an issue. You're free to post as you like, just as anyone on this forum is free to comment on it and the mods are free to delete what they deem is necessary.

I've made several posts on this board and unintentionally got into issues. This isn't like that at all. You gave an opinion, I gave mine. That's it and that's all it should be.

kis123

10-13-2004, 08:38 PM

TummyDragon

10-13-2004, 08:50 PM

You know, come to think of it, I had two very close female friends back in high school who were of African descent. Neither one had the least bit of a hang up with tickling in the least. Either one would talk about it without hesitation, or even dive into a tickle fight with me (or anyone else) at any time. The same held true for another friend I had in college. She was a lee/ler to the core for sure, though at that time, I didn't really see tickling as a fetish, but in retrospect, I wouldn't be the lease bit surprised if all three of them derived intense pleasure from tickling even if not full blown fetishists. Of course, three ladies doesn't make a statistical sampling, but, it's interesting to think about for sure. I wish I knew how to contact them now to invite them to the TMF! lol..

BlackmoonDoll

10-13-2004, 09:38 PM

again TummyDragon quit interesting. you think that it would be just the oppset though that White girls would way more into tickling and upfront about it more so then Black girls. i mean not to bring any Racist undertones to this thread or anything! but you just think that thats the way it would be. you know?

kis123

10-13-2004, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by BlackmoonDoll
again TummyDragon quit interesting. you think that it would be just the oppset though that White girls would way more into tickling and upfront about it more so then Black girls. i mean not to bring any Racist undertones to this thread or anything! but you just think that thats the way it would be. you know?

I don't think you're making a racist statement at all. Actually, this is becoming quite fascinating. I have a sister (on dad's side of course) who introduced me to tickling when we were kids. She had a real high drive (if you know what I mean) and she went for the boys when w
e turned teenagers. It left me kinda high and dry except a few occassional sneak tickles.

Being a bigger girl and extremely shy (whodathunkit?) I just hid in my tickle closet and went with the vanilla norms for many years. After I met another closet ticklephile eight years ago, it was off to the races for me!!! I simply will not get involved with anyone who does not understand my love of tickling. Especially since I'm on the ler side-he has to be willing to be my tickle slave for a very long time. I will occassionally take one for the team and be the lee, but I love making people laugh, and let's face it, I'm somewhat of a control freak.

Please folks, carry on! I'm just enjoying the heck out of this thread!!:devil: :devil: Don't let me interrupt!

BlackmoonDoll

10-13-2004, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by kis123
I don't think you're making a racist statement at all. Actually, this is becoming quite fascinating. I have a sister (on dad's side of course) who introduced me to tickling when we were kids. She had a real high drive (if you know what I mean) and she went for the boys when w
e turned teenagers. It left me kinda high and dry except a few occassional sneak tickles.

Being a bigger girl and extremely shy (whodathunkit?) I just hid in my tickle closet and went with the vanilla norms for many years. After I met another closet ticklephile eight years ago, it was off to the races for me!!! I simply will not get involved with anyone who does not understand my love of tickling. Especially since I'm on the ler side-he has to be willing to be my tickle slave for a very long time. I will occassionally take one for the team and be the lee, but I love making people laugh, and let's face it, I'm somewhat of a control freak.

Please folks, carry on! I'm just enjoying the heck out of this thread!!:devil: :devil: Don't let me interrupt!

I'm was quit shy as well. well who am i kidding i still am shy to this day! always have been. But i never really got tickled much or got to tickle people as much as when i got older and into my (20's) i'm 20 years old right now. so i never was tickled as a kid that much rarely ever if i remeber correctly :( . But i just feel so passionate about tickling its my love and my drive. and to this point in my life i'm not getting to tickle anybody in real life and have them tickle me as well. Because it comes down to my shy factor again its always been that! so in a way it kinda hurts and is sad. Because i'm not able live out my love for tickling and my fantasies with it

ticklkitten

10-14-2004, 12:08 AM

Yeah, I don't think there is a huge correlation here between weight and tickle fetish or not. I'm almost 5'5" and somewhere around 140 lbs... so I'm really neither. But most guys like my curves, and then there are some who only like tall thin girls, and then there are guys who like bigger woman. Like everything else, opinions varies. Maybe bbw are more open about it because there is so much fun pinching involved and they have something to pinch! LOL! They know they have something men want. Who knows?

Just my opinion,
:cat:

metroguy2k4

10-14-2004, 12:32 AM

Perhaps kis and others can give their opinions on this as well, but in addition to showing a greater interest in tickling, black women tend to be better lers. I remember this one time at my old job a coworker of mine, a black female with very long nails, unintentionally tickled me (and yes, I'm 99 percent sure it was unintentional). Basically, she brushed past me and her nails ran across my chest and a shirt button was undone and she hit bare skin. I literally yelped as the electric feeling went through my body! I know this is only one instance --- hardly a scientific sample --- but it all seems to come together quite nicely.

And yes, for you curious folks, after that I was always hoping she'd tickle me again for real, but she never did :mad: But man, if black girls are THAT good at tickling, to be tied down and tickled by one or more would be some intense experience! :eek:

kis123

10-14-2004, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by ticklkitten
Yeah, I don't think there is a huge correlation here between weight and tickle fetish or not. I'm almost 5'5" and somewhere around 140 lbs... so I'm really neither. But most guys like my curves, and then there are some who only like tall thin girls, and then there are guys who like bigger woman. Like everything else, opinions varies. Maybe bbw are more open about it because there is so much fun pinching involved and they have something to pinch! LOL! They know they have something men want. Who knows?

Just my opinion,
:cat:

At 5'5", and 140, you're a pretty good size. You're not too thin and not too big! I remember the day my size was about the same. If you lived in the 1970s, Twiggy was the national icon. My size (since age 13-17) was about the same. I was considered fat and unattractive (can you imagine that???). But that height and weight are actually healthy sizes for me. I wish I could be that slim. But enough about me....

Us bigger folks are more of a challenge. We can be conquered, but who's going to drop the gauntlet?? Some of us have lived long enough to determine what side of the fence to be on (ler or lee). These guys on this forum are starting to realize that they have to change their way of thinking if they expect to get their fingers on anyone!! Bigger is beautiful and more acceptable in today's society. It's not like they're looking to get married or something...

TummyDragon

10-14-2004, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by kis123
...Especially since I'm on the ler side-he has to be willing to be my tickle slave for a very long time. I will occassionally take one for the team and be the lee, but I love making people laugh, and let's face it, I'm somewhat of a control freak.

LoL, I tell you what, Kis, I'll personally volunteer to be your tickle slave for as long as you can dish it out... on the condition that you "take one for the team" and let me have at that ticklish skin of yours for a very.... very..... VERY.. long time! :cool: ;)

:firedevil

BlackmoonDoll

10-14-2004, 12:40 AM

i don't think a persons skin color effects how good at being a Tickler they are or not. it personally just comes down to the skills they have at Tickling. weather thier black,white,mexican etc. it just again comes down to tickling and how skillful they are out at it and how much practice and expericance they have had with it. Not what color a persons skin tone is (that should NOT effect or even be a factor as to how well they are at being a Tickler and tickling someone to making them start laugh out loud)

ticklkitten

10-14-2004, 12:41 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kis123
[B]At 5'5", and 140, you're a pretty good size. You're not too thin and not too big!

Thanks kis! I think I am a healthy weight for my height and build, it works for me. Yeah, I don't make myself much of a challenge when I've been tickled. I'd rather be a lee. I pretty much let my tickler have his way! Of course, I fight like mad when he hits a really good spot but that is all part of the fun. In order for me to be a ler, there has to be restraints involved! But there is nothing wrong with restraints...

:cat:

TummyDragon

10-14-2004, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by BlackmoonDoll
i don't think a persons skin color effects how good at being a Tickler they are or not. it personally just comes down to the skills they have at Tickling. weather thier black,white,mexican etc. it just again comes down to tickling and how skillful they are out at it and how much practice and expericance they have had with it. Not what color a persons skin tone is (that should NOT effect or even be a factor as to how well they are at being a Tickler and tickling someone to making them start laugh out loud)

It's not the skin color that would make a difference.. it would be more of a cultural influence if a difference truly exists at all. I'm willing to entertain thoughts along this avenue because it would seem that tickling and ticklish reactions are learned behaviors. Take the Japanese for instance. It seems that the most common reaction to a tickling a Japanese woman (actually born and raised in Japan) is that of a sputtering moan. The ticklish laughter just isn't the same. Now take an oriental woman from the Phillipines. The ticklish response is a loud, screaming belly laugh from deep inside. It would appear that the response to tickling is learned differently within specific cultures.

The women I mentioned earlier in this thread had the screaming belly laugh response, but, think about this... perhaps there cultural differences between white and black american females which *could* (not necessarily does) create more of an openness to touch, tickling, etc, in black females where the white culture is more anal retentive to touch. I realize this is a huge, sweeping generality, but if there is really a difference, this culture angle is where it would be found. Just a thought.

BlackmoonDoll

10-14-2004, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by TummyDragon
It's not the skin color that would make a difference.. it would more of a cultural influence if a difference truly exists at all. I'm willing to entertain thoughts along this avenue because it would seem that tickling and ticklish reactions are a learned behavior. Take the Japanese for instance. It seems that the most common reaction to a tickling a Japanese woman (actually born and raised in Japan) is that of a sputtering moan. The ticklish laughter just isn't the same. Now take an oriental woman from the Phillipines. The ticklish response is a loud, screaming belly laugh from deep inside. It would appear that the response to tickling is learned differently within specific cultures.

The women I mentioned earlier in this thread had the screaming belly laugh response, but, think about this... perhaps there cultural differences between white and black american females which *could* (not necessarily does) create more of an openness to touch, tickling, etc, where the white culture is more anal retentive to touch. I realize this is a huge, sweeping generality, but if there is really a difference, this culture angle is where it would be found. Just a thought.

you think way too Much Dragon!!! :p

you need to get out more and see the Sun light

lmao

kis123

10-14-2004, 01:03 AM

I am an African American (excuse the political correctness) female who enjoys giving tickling pleasure across all genres; race, religion, male, female, and everything else inbetween..........I'll tickle them all with great pleasure!!!

Neutron

10-14-2004, 01:27 PM

Tron

BBWticklee1973

10-14-2004, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Neutron
Ignorant Question

AMEN to that!! Took the thoughts right out of my head.

ticklemad

10-15-2004, 11:30 AM

Well one thing I've learnt being a very ticklish BBW is that I need to move from the UK to the USA, you guys are much more welcoming and open to us BBW's than the Brits. Soon as I mention size to a Brit they go running. Their loss I say.

Sunriseticklee

10-16-2004, 10:23 AM

I was 5'10 and 135 pounds when I graduated from high school and hella ticklish. Loved it to death, and wasn't shy about it at all. (Mainly because I didn't see anything wrong with it.)

When I got to college, that was when I realized that I loved it WAY more than anyone else, and that was VERY awkward for me. It was also when I started gaining weight (in spite of the 4 hours of basketball I was playing a day. COLLEGE FOOD!)

The weight gain didn't change how I felt about tickling at all, as I am sure that weight loss wouldn't either. (Nor did it change the amount of attention I was getting.) Leaving college and entering the real professional world did that. You can't very well roll all over the floor laughing at your job without being looked at strangely.

I don't believe for a minute that race is a factor in tickling. Simply, it is not. It's a case by case thing with each person. As far as weight and ticklishness.... That I cannot clearly answer. Weight may or may not play a part. I need more scientific evidence.

Where's my NEXT victim?

:p

Sunriseticklee
:Kiss2:

Iggy pop

10-18-2004, 01:40 AM

I don't think this question is totally ridiculous, and I've heard many theories about it.

One: We have just become bigger, heavier, and fatter as a population in general. I'm sure there are a high percentage of heavy guys here. Although they rarely identify themselves as BBMs.

Two: Thinner more petite girls are afraid of attracting too much attention. They are more prone to dangerous situations, and they choose to lurk in the background for safety reasons. Bigger women, on the otherhand, often feel more confident that they can handle themselves in dangerous situations and are less afraid to make their presense known.

Three: Thinner and younger women have more men than they can deal with and do not have to come to a fetish forum to get attention. We've heard from several larger women that they still get plenty of male attention. Bella even stated that larger women even receive the most attention at fetish parties and that this scares off a lot of thinner women. From my own expierence at bars and clubs, however, it is generally the thinner girls that get the most attention. Even here, it is the pics of the thinner girls that get the most comments, and the pics that have been proved fakes are those of thinner girls. So thin girls get a lot attention. Just look at Princess Ashleys thread.

So what's the truth? Honestly, I don't know. Maybe none of these are completely true, and maybe there is a little bit of truth in all of these theories.

suprticklishgrl

10-18-2004, 03:04 AM

heh. hiya folks.

you all make great points. so why is this still an issue? it sounds like the size of the lee doesn't really matter. and if both lees and lers are happy with that, then hey, its a happy world. :D

since this is coming right after iggy's post, i might as well comment on it. interesting theories. i agree with #1 and #2, although i'm pretty sure i could handle myself and anyone else who poses a threat in a dangerous situation. but just in case, you're right, we do shy away from certain circumstances. why else do i always put up my long scary profile in the chatroom lol. for #3, unless you take a poll of heights and weights and experiences and all that, you can't know for sure who gets the most attention. and thin girls ARE here. maybe it just depends on how EASILY she's willing to be tickled or not...

you want a piece of truth? i swear i'll never put up my picture in the members pics area. :p so you're theories are mostly dead on. and same to everyone else who's posted. :)

kyle

10-18-2004, 04:31 AM

Out of all the girls I know none are involved in any social activity on the internet that goes beyound IM stuff, at least to my knowledge. So I believe girls aren't really involved in forums like this as much. This is all I know from my experience.

Heavy girls don't get as much attention. Everyone knows it. Now a heavy girl can come on here where the supply of females is not big and get attention.

An attractive girl would have the confidence and manage to satisfy her fetish without having to turn to the internet.

I think heavy girls come on here because they can get attention. I don't think it's a TMF thing either. You would probably find similar weight demographcis if you searched other places.

ticklemad

10-18-2004, 06:16 PM

Bigger women, on the otherhand, often feel more confident that they can handle themselves in dangerous situations

Being a BBW I have to say from personal experience I disagree entirely.

And Kyle I also disagree that Big Women can come on here and get attention - soon as I mention my size to a bloke on here they do a runner or on some occasions I will even get an abusive private message sent to me. The understanding people seem to come from the USA when it comes down to size - they certainly seem much less prejudiced and appreciate a girls ticklish regardless of her size and that personality is much more than the size of her tits, dress size and length of her legs and colour of hair.

Men are entitled to have preferences as we all are but when they moan about women being thin on the ground it always puzles me why they seek out perfection so much, especially when I doubt very much they are able to offer the same in return.

hiram

10-18-2004, 06:22 PM

I always thought it takes boundless patience for a deathly ticklish woman to marry a guy with a tickle fetish. Shortly after the Enlightenment I married this petite and slender lass who is deathly ticklish. When she became a mom something changed in her metabolism so that she became a petite lass of the curve. With each child she became curvier...is that a word?

Since before we were married she has tried so hard to escape her ticklings. Sometimes she senses my mood before I attack and runs away. She always has, and still does, even though she is now over 50. When it involves tickling, she has a number of "No fairs!" My favorite of these is when I'm chasing her and she is screaming "NO FAIR!" and she means it! I used to ask what was no fair and she said it isn't fair to chase her when she's too fat. Did that ever add to the tease! I made sure not to catch her right away, so we have had chases up and down the stairs and all through the house.

What is there to do with a woman who orders her tickler husband to leave her alone but sometimes simply dares him to tickle her?

Our kids have scattered to the four winds, and we go to visit them from time to time. Over the years we have settled on one hotel chain that has consistently provided favorite floor plan for its suites. All the suites have had at least 3 rooms and some have a large kitchen with in island in the middle of the kitchen floor.

A couple of weeks ago we were visiting one of the kids in a far off state and stayed at one of these hotels. The first evening we were just resting at the hotel. I was laying on the bed reading a book, and the wife came after her shower and sat at my side of the bed so I could look at her from the back and her side. She was wearing nothing and leaned forward to get her nightie from her suit case. Needless to say I stopped reading so I could watch her get ready for bed. As I said, these days she's a woman of the curve. She's quite broad at the hips, yet has a truly female waist. Her sides and tummy do that marvelous thing that women show when she turns or bends one way or another.

As she was playing with her nightie, she noted in the mirror how I was looking at her. Then, now get this! She reached over and scratched one of her nails over the sole of one of my feet and giggled when I jumped. Can you believe it! I started up. You can't believe how fast a woman of the curve can jump for herself. And she ran out of the bed room through the living room into the kitchen with me after her. She alternated between "I was only kidding!" and "No fair!" Watching her run that way was the sexiest thing anyone ever saw or hoped to see.

I chased her back to the bed room and took her down on the bed and pinned her arms over her head. Women with large ticklish breasts can't be resisted. I tickled her breasts and ribs and armpits for the longest time. She screamed she couldn't breathe, and whenever she managed to beg for mercy I would simply wriggle a finger into her most ticklish spots just to watch what she did.

There is little more fun than tickling a big girl and exploring for ribs and running your fingers over each one faster and faster when you find it.

I guess the tickling is the thing more than the size, but I will surely never complain that this ticklish woman became curvaceous.

Duckie

10-18-2004, 07:09 PM

only imput i can offer is that iv been thinner at times and fatter at others and as far as i remmember my sensitivity never changes at all, its just slighty harder to wriggle away when you wiegh more.

Mimi

10-18-2004, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by kyle
Heavy girls don't get as much attention. Everyone knows it. Now a heavy girl can come on here where the supply of females is not big and get attention.

An attractive girl would have the confidence and manage to satisfy her fetish without having to turn to the internet.

I think heavy girls come on here because they can get attention. I don't think it's a TMF thing either. You would probably find similar weight demographcis if you searched other places.

:wow: :wow: :wow:

That's a rather crass and ignorant statement to make. To say that would be the same as stating the only men who come to the TMF or make use of the internet at all are desperate lonely men who can't get a woman to notice their existance in real life. And considering you are a member of the TMF, that would include you in that blanket statement as well...would it not? :rolleyes:

steph

10-18-2004, 09:07 PM

OMG~thank you Mimi! I caught this as I was leaving work and almost responded with a "does anyone but me find this comment offensive?"

Although I've never qualified as a BBW, I've certainly had my struggles with weight. Like duckie, I've been heavier, I've been thinner~the sensitivity never changed. Guess what else? There's NEVER been a shortage of guys~EVER. I've decided it has less to do with looks and more about how they feel in your presence...

And hiram~SUCH a cute story! :p

XOXO

natural tickler

10-18-2004, 09:21 PM

I see no problem, as long as your ticklish, it doesn't matter to me. I wonder why people are so superficial about looks anyway??

As I said earlier, the more meat you have, the longer I stay for dinner:p

kis123

10-18-2004, 09:36 PM

Kyle, Iggy.....

What are you guys doing to me??? If you don't like larger women, that's fine with me! But please don't assume that the thinner girls get all the attention. If a thin girl stood behind me, you wouldn't find her. However, I gets plenty of play, if you know what I mean!! I am single by choice and pretty much love every minute of it!! I'm working on my weight for health and professional reasons, not because I'm looking for a date!!!

As far as this forum is concerned, you wouldn't imagine the number of pm's I get. And I've made no secret about my weight issues at all! It's about confidence, not weight that makes me beautiful at any size. I've never been thin, but I have more self-esteem and confidence than I ever did when I was substantially thinner. That comes with maturity, not size!! I went to more of my share of clubs and I always got dances from guys that wanted to dance, not impress their friends by getting the hottest chick in the club. I personally have no time in my life to be worn on someone's arm as a trophy. If that's all they have to offer, that's not good enough for me!

Iggy, the reason why there are no BBMs is because that the image of the ideal woman is someone who looks like she could be blown away in a windstorm! It's always been that way, and probably always will be as long as the diet, entertainment, fashion, and other industries can profit off of it. Men have never been held to the same standards. When a man has gray hair, he looks distinguished. When a woman gets gray hair, she's just some old hag! Male actors on tv and movies have much longer screen lives than the women. It's okay for Michael Douglas to marry Catherine Zeta-Jones, but when Demi's ready to marry Ashton, all media hell breaks loose! The standards have never and will never be the same.

kyle

10-18-2004, 11:31 PM

Mimi, judging by your stinging reply I can see that my comment got under your skin. My intentions were not to offend. However, I thought the reasoning behind my theory was sound. I realize that it was a generalization but a true one and one that fits the topic.

Gee natural, so anyone who judges the aesthetic faculties to make dating decisions is superficial? Give me a break dude.

kis123

10-19-2004, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by kyle
Mimi, judging by your stinging reply I can see that my comment got under your skin. My intentions were not to offend. However, I thought the reasoning behind my theory was sound. I realize that it was a generalization but a true one and one that fits the topic.

Gee natural, so anyone who judges the aesthetic faculties to make dating decisions is superficial? Give me a break dude.

Sorry Kyle,

There's no sugar coating or PC on this one. You made a generalization based on your (and a small group of men's) opinion. Many men want a size 2 on their arm, but a size 12-22 in their bed! I oughta know, I've been one of them! Not every man would admit it for fear of being harrassed by their thin-women-loving friends. I've sat around the table of a lot of these conversations, so I know they exist.

If you like thinner women, that's fine for you! But there are a lot of men who like larger women-more meat with their potatoes, so to speak. I have two children and was married, and I've been a plus-sized BBW gal the whole way. And my kids aren't test tube babies, so someone managed to find me attractive enough to do that, if you know what I mean.

Your generalization is yours to have, but is not as accurate as you think.

Iggy pop

10-19-2004, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by kis123
Kyle, Iggy.....

What are you guys doing to me???

What did I do to you? I don't remember even mentioning you or writing anything negative about you.

If you don't like larger women, that's fine with me! But please don't assume that the thinner girls get all the attention.

I would never assume that. There are plenty of guys that do like larger women. I'm not saying that larger women do not get attention. I do believe, however, that thinner girls do get a little bit more attention. As I pointed out in my previous post that the member pics that generally get the most comments are the ones of thinner girls.

Iggy, the reason why there are no BBMs is because that the image of the ideal woman is someone who looks like she could be blown away in a windstorm! It's always been that way, and probably always will be as long as the diet, entertainment, fashion, and other industries can profit off of it. Men have never been held to the same standards. When a man has gray hair, he looks distinguished. When a woman gets gray hair, she's just some old hag! Male actors on tv and movies have much longer screen lives than the women. It's okay for Michael Douglas to marry Catherine Zeta-Jones, but when Demi's ready to marry Ashton, all media hell breaks loose! The standards have never and will never be the same.

There is a lot of truth here. Although I have heard numerous jokes made at Michael Douglas expense. I remember when Catherine Zeta-jones was pregnant I heard many jokes on how she would now have to change two set of diapers. I have heard jokes how some people mistake him for her father. So he did not exactly get free pass. How many times I have heard the Rolling Stones be called the Rolling Bones? They didn't put the old fat Elvis on the postage stamp. Would James Dean still have the same mystique if he died in his 70's like Marlon Brando? Would they have made a movie about Jim Morrison he lived until his sixties? Just to go off topic for second, do you know who really gets a free pass on age difference? Gay people. For example, Ian McKellan, a gay man, has a boyfriend over 30 years younger than he is, but you never here anything about that.

Finally even with the pressure from the fashion, diet, and entertainment industry more people are obese in this country than ever before. So much so that it is being called an epidemic. This is not coming from the fashion or diet industry, but from the medical community. And this does not just apply to women, in fact the problem is even greater in men. I think we would all be better off and live longer if we start living healthier life styles.

kis123

10-19-2004, 07:51 AM

Iggy,

First of all, my opening sentence was supposed to be a joke. I obviously didn't do too well with that one-sorry about that.

Yes, obesity is a problem. We live in a nation of fast food, stressed livestyles with very little time to do anything past going through the drive-thru. I also think the food industry is responsible for many people becoming food addicts. Fast food has all sorts of chemicals that I believe make people eat more and become hungry again sooner. If they can use steroids and antibotics in our food and feed mad-cow infested food to the very cattle they place in our grocery stores for us to eat, I don't think my theory is so far-fetched. I don't have iron-clad proof, but I don't think I'm wrong.

I do believe that we are not going to get help from the food industry at all and must take personal responsibility for what we stick in our mouths. I don't believe in the blame game-adults take responsibility for their actions. No one put a gun to my head while I was becoming larger.

Having said that, just because I am a larger woman does not believe that I should live in societal shame. I'm entitled to love and happiness just as much as a thinner woman. Discrimination regarding weight is the last permitted prejudice in this society. I shouldn't have to hide in shame because I'm big. I've done that long enough and I won't do it anymore. I have taken verbal abuse since I was a child in my own family and everywhere else. There are plenty of men who love big women. I have dated and married them. And NONE of them are overweight or obese.

If a man doesn't get it when it comes to the advantages of being with a larger woman or if they're on the "hot chick" syndrome, IT'S THEIR LOSS AND ANOTHER MAN'S GAIN!! There are plenty of men who love big women out there. There are a lot of closet chubby chasers who date small women in public and run with the big women in secret.

Even with the jokes about Michael Douglas, the Rolling Stones, etc., dating younger beautiful women is still much more acceptable than it will ever be among older women and younger men. Aging women will never have the same respect and benefits as the older "distinguished" men. And larger men are considered "big guys", where women are fat slobs who need to lose weight. The deck will always be unevenly stacked in the man's favor.

jeannie

10-19-2004, 10:15 AM

well, there seem to be a lot of thin ticklish women in the videos for sale.....now whether they are tickle gals is not clear...I am thin and petite and love tickling. My opinion is that it is likely unrelated to size. Now whether or not more women who are larger in size are more open about their desires may be the difference however, that also could be a misperception.

kis123

10-19-2004, 11:35 AM

There are plenty of "misperceptions" going on around here. There's a misperception that only thin girls are "hot" and big girls don't get any attention so they have to sit in front of computers and make relationships over the Internet.

There are "misperceptions" that thin women are afraid of getting attention so they keep their feelings to themselves, while us big women would do anything to get attention, even go on tickling sites on the internet.

Ticklishness is neurological and has NOTHING with a person's size! Being outgoing enough to discuss it has nothing to do with size either. It's about the ability to express yourself and your needs and not let others do it for you.

The Sean Man

10-19-2004, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by kis123
...And larger men are considered "big guys"...

Though my friends use it as a term of endearment, I'm working towards losing a boatload of weight as well as the nickname "The Big Guy".

I like to think that tickle-philes are too tickle-happy to let something like weight be an issue. What can I say? I'm an optimist.

The Sean Man

BellaRisa

10-19-2004, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by jeannie
well, there seem to be a lot of thin ticklish women in the videos for sale.....

I have a few things to say (gee, really Bella? :p :rolleyes: ) and I'll start with the above statement.

BellaRisa Productions has been more successful than my partners and I could have ever imagined, and it has a very curvy lil' chickie at the helm: me. I adore my body but I had mild concerns about my non-thinness at the beginning, but we've never had a single complaint and I've received tons of fan mail praising my curves. Among other things :devil:. The reason you see so many very thin girls in videos is because a) that's who signs on to be tickled, and b) that's what stereotypically sells. But our video with me bottoming has gone through the roof, and it's quite obvious in the clips that I am *not* thin. I plan to use rounder and juicier girls in our work whenever they come our way, they're more fun to tickle for me and I already know they'll be popular :cool:

Now here's the thing. We luscious girls have had to deal with the "thin is in" media stuff all of our lives, so of course we get annoyed when folks start implying (or flat-out stating) that we're not as attractive and/or more desperate. We get offended and frankly confused, because many of us have never had issue with it; in our personal lives thinner does NOT automatically equal more attractive. Hell, where I grew up in Brooklyn you needed a decent sized rear end to leave the house (g). Personally I've 'always' had the opposite sex gravitate toward me over thinner ladies with smaller bosoms and bottoms than I have. BUT, here's what I figured out with the help of my VERY attentive Top: it's the curves, proportion, and aura. My hubby agreed, bear with me:

They said that, other than very young guys who still think the plastic girls in magazines are real and desireable, most men want a girl who A) weighs less than he does and B) has an hourglass figure to some degree and c) takes care of herself and takes pride in her appearance.

This makes sense to me.

In my experience, men want to feel protective and needed, and frankly like they can't get their ass kicked by their girlfriend, and that's easier if they're bigger and stronger than the young lady in question. I usually go for the big cuddly teddy bear/ex-football player types (you know who you are:wavingguy ) for those very reasons, so I can relate. Wrestling with a guy you can beat gets old. Secondly, I have indeed observed that the curvy girls here and elsewhere that get plenty of attention are those of us who have 'very' shapely figures, whether a size 10 or 16, and take the time to look good. A plumpscious girl who's firm and rounded and proportionally curved can be *more* popular than a more boyish figured woman if she's workin' that bombshell thang. We all know this:cool: But often when I'm out and about I see the type of 'heavy' woman that gives us 'curvy' girls a bad rep: unflattering, outdated outfit that does nothing for her figure and just makes her look like an egg, bad '80's haircut and makeup IF she's wearing any, and worst of all-downhearted and downtrodden attitude. I've seen this phenomenon anywhere from members' pics (no offense to anyone!) to bars and clubs. A *lot* of non-skinny ladies seem to think that since they're not a size 6 they don't need to try, and that does a lot to perpetuate the 'thin equals pretty' myth. Of course the thinner girls get more attention if they're trying harder and give off more confident vibes. That's just common sense.

Having recently watched several of my guy friends drooling over the latest lingerie catalogue I received for ladies size 12 and up, (and seriously these girls are HOT) I *know* it's not thinness but beauty and sexiness that count with the average male. And those are defined in a myriad of ways.

My 3 cents, YMMY,

Bella

The Sean Man

10-19-2004, 11:57 AM

"Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go roooooooooound"- Queen.

The Sean Man

Lazarus

10-19-2004, 12:49 PM

Big Girls ROCK!

'Nuff said.

:p :veryhappy :bump: :happyfloa :bowing: :bouncybou :xpulcy: :woot:

steph

10-19-2004, 01:19 PM

OMG~some of you are making me crazy with this and some of you owe these ladies an apology. (Yes, I'm fiercely protective of my BBW friends, even though they don't need it.) I've had way more threads started by the guys here than Ashley (who started her own, BTW)~no disrespect meant to her. I'm 5'3 and a few years ago was up to 200 pounds. I'm nowhere near that now, but neither am I down to 100, not that was ever that either, except as a teenager. In case you haven't noticed, I'd say I qualify as someone getting a little bit of comments and attention both here :rolleyes: and in my real life. Real men like real women with curves.
Shame on some of you for making such moronic generalizations! :sowrong:

XOXO

Originally posted by Iggy pop
From my own expierence at bars and clubs, however, it is generally the thinner girls that get the most attention. Even here, it is the pics of the thinner girls that get the most comments, and the pics that have been proved fakes are those of thinner girls. So thin girls get a lot attention. Just look at Princess Ashleys thread.

natural tickler

10-19-2004, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by kyle

Gee natural, so anyone who judges the aesthetic faculties to make dating decisions is superficial? Give me a break dude.

No, kyle, what I meant is if looks is your only criteria, instead of the big picture, then there is a problem:D

kis123

10-19-2004, 02:10 PM

Kis has reviewed her posts and feels the need to clean up something not necessarily said, but implied.

It is one thing to be petite or slim because of either your genetics or healthy lifestyle. I want my slim sisters to know that I have nothing but love for you and wish I had your metabolism!

It is another thing to worship size 2 models who smoke cigarettes and eat lettuce all day just to stay skinny enough to get a job. Young girls starve themselves to death every day thinking this look is beautiful when it is actually unhealthy and unrealistic (even they get airbrushed on the magazine covers).

Fellas, everyone has their preferences. My daughter is 5'11" and makes a size 12 look drop-dead gorgeous! The men that have been in my life love large women. Some of you like petite or slim women. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, behold it and go for the type you like.

But please, do not make general stereotypical statements about slimmer women getting more attention than larger women. It simply isn't true and there are more people than me on this forum that will attest to it!

natural tickler

10-19-2004, 02:29 PM

Kis, your point is well taken. Now breathe slowly and deep. Feel better??:D

kis123

10-19-2004, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by natural tickler
Kis, your point is well taken. Now breathe slowly and deep. Feel better??:D

Point taken, daddy of twins!:p :p And since you asked, I feel much better!!!!!!

featherfingers

10-19-2004, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by kis123
But please, do not make general stereotypical statements about slimmer women getting more attention than larger women. It simply isn't true and there are more people than me on this forum that will attest to it! I would like to enter my opinion on this matter. Kis brings up a very good point. Look at any of the Steph threads and you will see that she receives more views and posts than anyone else at TMF. She freely admits that she is no Kate Moss, yet there must be something magical about her that brings the guys to these threads. In the 'Images' forum, she received over 17,000 views and is receiving more at this very minute. That's a testament to her beauty, both outside and inside. <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSXXXXXX41US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_5_105.gif' border=0></a><a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSXXXXXX41US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/25/25_11_63.gif' border=0></a>

steph

10-19-2004, 02:53 PM

OFF TOPIC! :whip:
(but I love ya for saying it frankie!)
:blush: :blush: :lovestory

(happy now, Dan? I beat ya to it!):D

XOXO

featherfingers

10-19-2004, 04:41 PM

Anything to get physical with you, my pretty!<ahref='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSXXXXXX41US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_6.gif' border=0></a> I was 100% sincere, by the way.

fitnesstickle

10-19-2004, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by steph
I'm 5'3 and a few years ago was up to 200 pounds. I'm nowhere near that now, but neither am I down to 100, not that was ever that either, except as a teenager. In case you haven't noticed, I'd say I qualify as someone getting a little bit of comments and attention both here :rolleyes: and in my real life. Real men like real women with curves.
Shame on some of you for making such moronic generalizations! :sowrong:

XOXO
<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_VSXXXXXX46US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_14_8.gif' border=0></a>

Knox The Hatter

10-19-2004, 08:02 PM

In regards to the original question this thread posed: no, I don't think so. I sincerely believe that it all evens out in the end, and people post questions like this only because they seem bored.

As far as overweight women being "desperate": the desperate ones all seem to have one trait in common...their personalities suck. Of course a girl who looks like Pamela Anderson with a shitty personality can be much in demand by men who seem to be turned on by such a concept. They seem to want to marry women like this, and then sit around wondering just what the hell went wrong. Don't laugh, I knew imbeciles like this in the Navy. Overweight girls with a lousy personality don't have a chance. They're stereotyped by guys with a prejudice against overweight girls; it's easier to promulgate a generalization.

It seems to me that the big girls here- the regulars- are having a good time. This seems to confound some people.

I have a friend at the job. She's about my age, and quite overweight. She's not particularly attractive, either, but not too long ago, she met the man of her dreams, they hit it off, and they got married, and they're very happy...

Desperation indeed :rolleyes:

kyle

10-20-2004, 02:38 AM

Kis,

No knock against the heavier girls. Whatever floats your boat, as the saying goes.

I also get the impression that when people speak of skinnier girls they're talking about sticks. Everybody likes a little meat on the bones.

Amnesiac

10-20-2004, 04:19 AM

When I saw this thread, I thought about posting, but then decided it might be too inflammatory...but seeing as how the golden keys people have chimed in, I have little fear. First, one note:

That's a rather crass and ignorant statement to make. To say that would be the same as stating the only men who come to the TMF or make use of the internet at all are desperate lonely men who can't get a woman to notice their existance in real life.
- Mimi

Uh...Meems? I uh, happen to resemble that remark. No offense taken though.

ANYWAY!

I. The Weight Issue

In a nutshell, what KIS and BELLA and STEPH (just to name a few) have said is pretty much right: there are more fans of plus-sized women than are admitted. For myself, I tend to gravitate towards the thinner ones, but I'll be damned if I don't admit that I like a woman with some meat on her...look at nudy pictures and porno from the turn-of-the century; no runway princesses there, but DAMN, a lot of them were sexy.

I think the drawing line is indication-by-weight; it's not so much whether a woman is thin or not, but rather if she looks HEALTHY or not. A robust woman can look as nice as a skinny woman if it looks natural...but if she looks like an Olsen twin skeleton or a walking imitation of Jabba the Hutt, it can be downright disgusting. And unfortunately the extremes are the cases by which most people of various sizes are usually tagged.

KIS already makes a good point that I thought I was gonna get to first (DAYMN!). Most people won't admit they find a plus sized person attractive IS the social effect; a guy will never admit he finds a large woman attractive because he will never live it down. A lot of women mistake a man's silence as contempt; that he is ASHAMED to be seen with you. Most often that's not the case. Most often it's because his friends, no matter HOW MUCH THEY MAY PERSONALLY AGREE WITH HIM, will NEVER STOP FUCKING WITH HIM once they find out. And as any married woman will tell you, most guys never do grow up all the way. It's not necessarily that they don't like them or are ashamed of them...they mostly just want to get through a day without being harassed by the very people they can't get away from.

Look at Mark Hamill...you think he EVER wants to hear the fucking words "STAR WARS" again?

II. The RACE Issue

KIS and BELLA are just a few living examples that ticklishness comes in many colors (oohhhhhhhhhh sweet variety!). But the fact that this issue comes up all over this discussion forum probably requires some addressing.

Black people and white people are NOT THAT DIFFERENT; they have the same wants, needs, concerns, interests and reactions. The difference is that people BELIEVE THEY MUST BE different. Given the history of Black and White culture in America, there's pleanty of "reasons" to perpeutate difference. Both black and white societies have tried so damn hard over the decades to establish themselves as apart from another that they can no longer relate to each other.

You want to know why there's so few black roles in Hollywood? Because white culture is so well promoted that even non-Whites undestand the cultural references; the reverse is not true. If you create a black lead or black heroine, you're gonna have to explain why they behave in a fashion so traditionally white, not for the black viewers, but for the white viewers whose only experience with African-Americans is the latest episode of COPS.

There was a mediocre comedy in 1993 called Amos N' Andy with Nic Cage and Sam Jackson. There's a scene where both Amos and Andrew are in the house of a neighbor looking for their car keys when Amos (Cage) pulls out some bondage gear...to which Andrew (Jackson) replies by shaking his head, rolling his eyes and muttering "White people."

This little tidbit indicates a general viewpoint...white people are kinky, black people are not. White people go crazy, black people just get mad. You see this reflected in jokes and television all the time: the white people are crazy, the black women are just mean and sassy(shades of Omarosa anyone?). If you think I'm full of it, just look at the casting decisions for reality TV alone.

This reflects more of the cultural imperatives than it does the reality. The fact is that black or white, BOTH have the same level of ticklishness and BOTH are open to it...the only question is which one is MORE LIKELY to admit it and accept it? Maybe the cultural make-up of most African-American society prevents it from being as open or receptive to it as white culture (another thread for another day, if you ask me), but this whole "Are women of color MORE/LESS..." is bullshit. There are no differences, only in the likelihood of getting a willing admission and participant...and that's not genetic or racial, that's CULTURAL.

All in all, as far as I'm concerned, everything boils down to just one thing for me...

...If she shrieks, I will tickle her.

questions

10-20-2004, 01:24 PM

When I was in college I had a good friend who had a crush on me and tickled me all the time. She was actually heavier than I was and would pin me down and torture me until I finally said uncle or whatever other word she mandated. As you can imagine, I held out as long as I could since I loved it.

One night we were watching a movie with Don Johnson and Rebecca Demorney (she was his lawyer) and another friend of hers was over her apartment watching it with us. I'm often a bit of a smart ass and kept making annoying comments. After warning me to stop, they both attacked me. I was the first time in my life that I had been tickled by two women at once. It was also the first time that saying uncle or mercy did not stop the tickling. They kept going despite the fact that I could not breathe and was literally begging them to stop. I was on my stomach and both of them sat on top of me. My friend was at my feet (her favorite place to tickle) and her friend was sitting on my shoulders and tickling my ribs, sides and armpits. My friend even bit and chewed on my toes and feet as she often did. it was torture but lots of fun. They didn't stop until they were good and ready. There were actually a few times that I started to get a little panicky because I didn't think I could take it much longer.

My wife is actually a small woman who has developed a love for tickling. She has tied me up and worked me over many times. She shows a lot more mercy than my old friend and has never really pushed me very far. Someday I really want to be taken to my limits again.

To answer, your initial question, I do think that larger women are more likely to be into tickling. I don't know why.

BlackmoonDoll

10-20-2004, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by questions
When I was in college I had a good friend who had a crush on me and tickled me all the time. She was actually heavier than I was and would pin me down and torture me until I finally said uncle or whatever other word she mandated. As you can imagine, I held out as long as I could since I loved it.

One night we were watching a movie with Don Johnson and Rebecca Demorney (she was his lawyer) and another friend of hers was over her apartment watching it with us. I'm often a bit of a smart ass and kept making annoying comments. After warning me to stop, they both attacked me. I was the first time in my life that I had been tickled by two women at once. It was also the first time that saying uncle or mercy did not stop the tickling. They kept going despite the fact that I could not breathe and was literally begging them to stop. I was on my stomach and both of them sat on top of me. My friend was at my feet (her favorite place to tickle) and her friend was sitting on my shoulders and tickling my ribs, sides and armpits. My friend even bit and chewed on my toes and feet as she often did. it was torture but lots of fun. They didn't stop until they were good and ready. There were actually a few times that I started to get a little panicky because I didn't think I could take it much longer.

My wife is actually a small woman who has developed a love for tickling. She has tied me up and worked me over many times. She shows a lot more mercy than my old friend and has never really pushed me very far. Someday I really want to be taken to my limits again.

To answer, your initial question, I do think that larger women are more likely to be into tickling. I don't know why.

questions... do you have any questions to ask us?

lol sorry i couldn't help myself! :p

featherfingers

10-20-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by BlackmoonDoll
questions... do you have any questions to ask us?

lol sorry i couldn't help myself! :p Lay off the dude, man. He's only posted a couple of replies. Don't make him feel bad. Welcome to the club, Questions!

BlackmoonDoll

10-20-2004, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by featherfingers
Lay off the dude, man. He's only posted a couple of replies. Don't make him feel bad. Welcome to the club, Questions!

Whoa back off there featherfingers. i was only Joking around

crydun

10-20-2004, 02:41 PM

As a BBW who is about to go into the Tickle Mistress business, I find that since coming to the forum, I have had more male attention than at any other time in my life. I'm upfront with people. I tell them what my values are, my goals and what I will not do. I also let them know if they ask, that the pic of me in the TMF members section is not current. I have longer hair, I'm bigger and I wear specs(may be having lasic surgery to correct that) Other than a few oddballs who made some unpleasant comments, I haven't had a problem. They hear how incredibly TICKLISH I am and that's all they care about. That brings up another issue but I won't post it here. All in all, my weight(and its going down) does not seem to be an issue on this or any other forum(I belong to four)

now happy tickling!

crydun

Iggy pop

10-20-2004, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by steph
OMG~some of you are making me crazy with this and some of you owe these ladies an apology. (Yes, I'm fiercely protective of my BBW friends, even though they don't need it.) I've had way more threads started by the guys here than Ashley (who started her own, BTW)~no disrespect meant to her. I'm 5'3 and a few years ago was up to 200 pounds. I'm nowhere near that now, but neither am I down to 100, not that was ever that either, except as a teenager. In case you haven't noticed, I'd say I qualify as someone getting a little bit of comments and attention both here :rolleyes: and in my real life. Real men like real women with curves.
Shame on some of you for making such moronic generalizations! :sowrong:

XOXO

Since you quoted me I have to assume that you were at least in part directing this towards me. First, I owe nobody an apology. I did not write anything negative about anybody here. Did I make a generalization? Yes I did. In fact I even clarified it and stated that it was based on personal experience. I did not use such words as always, never, or any other absolutes. Honestly, I still stick by that statement. If you want blame me for making generalizations then fine, but almost everybody in this thread has made generalizations including yourself.

steph

10-20-2004, 10:46 PM

LOL~I'm just pointing out that there are OBSCENE exceptions to the rule...

XOXO

dskodj

10-20-2004, 11:08 PM

A bigger woman no matter how big can be very very sexy and attractive. It all depends on how they carry themselves and take care of themselves. Im not ashamed to admit anything..none the less that I like big women. Im one of the very few people that you'd ever meet that dont give a fuck about what the book says..another words..im not a robot of society! I hate rap music, I hate all of todays music basicly and i'll be the first to admit and say it right to anyone's face..the same way as i'll say..I loooooove large women who take care of themselves. I had a girlfriend once when I was bout ooo, 18 or 19 years old. She was only bout 5'6 and damn near 300 lbs (was my very first experience ever with a large woman) and well, my friends would all give me shit but..did I care?? NOPE! They eventualy excepted her and the fact that I was goin with her. She honest to god coulda been a top model for anyplace if she was only a few hundered pounds lighter cause she was sooo pretty and took very good care of herself (not to mention all the foot guys out here woulda been goin gaga over her feet..trusttt me LOL). But anyhow, my point is, theres nothing wrong with large women and id have one anyday as a lifetime partner or even a tickle partner if they were the right one.

Louis

10-20-2004, 11:23 PM

I've avoided this thread like the plague but I've read it since it's inception. I hate the idea of offending someone and I would never want to hurt someone's feelings. Reality is, though, that all of us are physically attracted to different things. This forum is uncomfortably dominated by foot lovers, for example, in MY opinion. It is more socially common for people of both sexes to be attracted to people of a more fit body style. That is natural based on biology. Having said that, there are folks that are more attracted to thin or heavy. It really doesn't matter and we shoulod be proud of what makes us happy.

Personally, I don't mind "curvy" but sloppy heavy is a problem for me. That's only a personal preference. Conversly, some girls won't look at a balding guy (like me). There's a big difference for me between someone who is a little heavy and someone who just let's themself go to pot.

Now that's only from a physical attraction point of view. All of us deserve the same amount of respect and I would treat everyone with the same.

This thread is especially devoted to the idea of heavier people being more ticklish or not and I have no experience with that so I cannot comment. I just had to put in my 2 cents. My feeling is, have fun in life and there's always someone out there that does it for you. I hope my comments don't offend any plus sized folks because that would make me sad.

Louis

steph

10-20-2004, 11:44 PM

I think your answer was thoughtful and well thought out. I do occasionally make contact with guys who tell me they prefer a smaller gal, it's why I tell 'em straight upfront. Know what I found out? They always end up telling me, "F'it, I'm coming out anyway~you're WAY too fun to miss out on!" More bizarreness? They ALWAYS want to come back! I do think it's how you make THEM feel that really matters...

XOXO

featherfingers

10-21-2004, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by BlackmoonDoll
Whoa back off there featherfingers. i was only Joking around
Sorry, BlackmoonDoll. I misinterpreted your previous reply.
Also, just want to reinforce the fact that I find plus sized women to be incredibly sexy and down to earth... much more easy to talk to than those supermodel types. (Not all are like that, mind you! My best friend is of supermodel quality and she's super sweet!)

Lazarus

10-21-2004, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Amnesiac_m(pc)

KIS already makes a good point that I thought I was gonna get to first (DAYMN!). Most people won't admit they find a plus sized person attractive IS the social effect; a guy will never admit he finds a large woman attractive because he will never live it down. A lot of women mistake a man's silence as contempt; that he is ASHAMED to be seen with you. Most often that's not the case. Most often it's because his friends, no matter HOW MUCH THEY MAY PERSONALLY AGREE WITH HIM, will NEVER STOP FUCKING WITH HIM once they find out. And as any married woman will tell you, most guys never do grow up all the way. It's not necessarily that they don't like them or are ashamed of them...they mostly just want to get through a day without being harassed by the very people they can't get away from.

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WRONGO, Bucko.....

I WILLINGLY admit, to ANYONE who brings the subject up, that I am a BIG GIRL LOVER....

CHUBBY CHASER....

BBW ADMIRER....

ETC.

I have always had a love for big women, and always will....

I doan wanna cuddle with a bag-o-bones....

I'm a pretty big guy, and I wanna a big girl to snuggle with....

NOTHING makes my night like cuddling with Meems...

That, and it's nice being with a big girl that fights and wrestles with me, and can usually hang with me....

(Not yesterday, tho.....I was ticklin' her, and she fell off the bed and got stuck, and I broke her like 10 times...)

ANYWAY....

It should NOT matter, big or thin, when it comes to love, or tickling, or whatever....

I just prefer big girls.

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(The following statement is the sole opinion of Laz. Trying to read any hidden meanings into the preceding message will result in headache, nausea, overactive bladder, hair loss,
sensitivity to dark, explosive bowel movements, and gingevitis.

The following to the preceding was Laz's attempt at being funny. He will go back, and keep trying 'till he gets it right.)

questions

10-21-2004, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by featherfingers
Lay off the dude, man. He's only posted a couple of replies. Don't make him feel bad. Welcome to the club, Questions!

That does it!! I am outraged by this unfair treatment and am therefore announcing my retirement from tickling and will never return to this website.

Seriously, thanks for the harmless kidding and thanks to featherfingers for coming to my defense. I have been coming here for years and it's a great group of people.

I have many questions, but I'll save them for later. I've got to go upstairs and tickle my wife!!!

featherfingers

10-21-2004, 06:05 PM

Need help?

featherfingers

10-21-2004, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by questions
I have many questions, but I'll save them for later. I've got to go upstairs and tickle my wife!!! Need help? (There, now it makes sense.)

fitnesstickle

10-21-2004, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by steph
I think your answer was thoughtful and well thought out. I do occasionally make contact with guys who tell me they prefer a smaller gal, it's why I tell 'em straight upfront. Know what I found out? They always end up telling me, "F'it, I'm coming out anyway~you're WAY too fun to miss out on!" More bizarreness? They ALWAYS want to come back! I do think it's how you make THEM feel that really matters...

XOXO

Living in the 'Capitol of Looks are everything' ,and being in an industry that is All about health and looking better, I personally see and am around the 'pretty people'. <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_VSXXXXXX46US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_1_106v.gif' border=0></a>
And for me, who has dated models and BBW, the attitude and confidence of the person is the ab-sole-ute most important thing for me.
And Fitness's Angels here on the board are all gorgeous, but not thin.
They make me crazy because they are sweet, spirited, beautiful and ticklish. <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_VSXXXXXX46US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_83.gif' border=0></a> Steph <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_VSXXXXXX46US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_98.gif' border=0></a> Tiklekitten and <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_VSXXXXXX46US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_107.gif' border=0></a> Giggles.

BlackmoonDoll

10-21-2004, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by featherfingers
Sorry, BlackmoonDoll. I misinterpreted your previous reply.
Also, just want to reinforce the fact that I find plus sized women to be incredibly sexy and down to earth... much more easy to talk to than those supermodel types. (Not all are like that, mind you! My best friend is of supermodel quality and she's super sweet!)

Its ok featherfingers no problem. People sometimes misread and read more into my posts then they really should be. But thats alright no worrys man

Maria_Rose

10-22-2004, 04:30 AM

Yeah wasn't the nicest question that's for sure lol. I'd hope it wouldn't matter what size the lady was, it's got nothing to do with who she is. For the record I'm underweight, and really ticklish (and into tickling, obviously) but I know I'd still be a rampant ticklephile if I were 1000 lbs or more lol. The whole thing about body types is such a load of crap anyways.

featherfingers

10-22-2004, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Maria_Rose
Yeah wasn't the nicest question that's for sure lol. I'd hope it wouldn't matter what size the lady was, it's got nothing to do with who she is. For the record I'm underweight, and really ticklish (and into tickling, obviously) but I know I'd still be a rampant ticklephile if I were 1000 lbs or more lol. The whole thing about body types is such a load of crap anyways. Ever think about coming to Tucson,AZ, Maria_Rose? I agree 100% with you, by the way.

ticklkitten

10-23-2004, 09:14 AM

I just wanted to say that amnesiac made one of the best most well thought out arguments I have seen in awhile. Thanks for your two cents plus tax... Whatever guys may think about heavy woman vs. thin woman.... I ADORE a smart man. My guys gotta have brains.

Kitten

Originally posted by Amnesiac_m(pc)
Most often that's not the case. Most often it's because his friends, no matter HOW MUCH THEY MAY PERSONALLY AGREE WITH HIM, will NEVER STOP FUCKING WITH HIM once they find out. And as any married woman will tell you, most guys never do grow up all the way. It's not necessarily that they don't like them or are ashamed of them...they mostly just want to get through a day without being harassed by the very people they can't get away from.

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SmashTV

10-25-2004, 04:21 AM

I personally find the sight of a larger woman being tickled to hysterics a glory; the models in the videos, while easy on the eye, are of course just eye candy, and one of my greatest ticklees is one of the very women in this thread!!! Is size really important? I think not....

Cheers, everybody,
SmashTV

MsDivaNYC

10-25-2004, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by jugner
Generally maybe, bigger women dont get as much attention from guys...

*rolling eyes* Oh, geez! This is SUCH an offensive reply, I really hope you have taken the time to apologize to any heavy-set female members of the Forum who may have been offended. I Myself take offense as a former heavy-set girl; I was ticklish back then and still continue to be. I never appreciated the tickling for the attention, rather, for the unexplainable sensual and sexual excitement it brought Me.

Choose your words carefully next time.

kis123

10-25-2004, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by MsDivaNYC
*rolling eyes* Oh, geez! This is SUCH an offensive reply, I really hope you have taken the time to apologize to any heavy-set female members of the Forum who may have been offended. I Myself take offense as a former heavy-set girl; I was ticklish back then and still continue to be. I never appreciated the tickling for the attention, rather, for the unexplainable sensual and sexual excitement it brought Me.

Choose your words carefully next time.

I won't hold my breath waiting for apologies. There are people in this world who think their opinions are more important than their effect on others.

Like I said in a previous post, my children weren't born in a test tube so it means that there are men out here who love plus sized and queen sized women. They appreciate that there's more to us than how society says we should look.

TicklishMike

01-23-2005, 02:36 PM

grrr get a new screename, i am not ticklishmike25 and i love big women, small women all women

kis123

01-23-2005, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by TicklishMike
grrr get a new screename, i am not ticklishmike25 and i love big women, small women all women

I wouldn't worry about this too much. He asked a question, and has gotten a lot of answers. If you are emotionally free enough to love women of all sizes, you're more mature than you give yourself credit for. There need to be more men like you and maybe this world would be a better place.

ticklemad

01-24-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by SmashTV
I personally find the sight of a larger woman being tickled to hysterics a glory; the models in the videos, while easy on the eye, are of course just eye candy, and one of my greatest ticklees is one of the very women in this thread!!! Is size really important? I think not....

Cheers, everybody,
SmashTV

Aaaaaaw :blush: you're not bad either yourself Smashy;)

vryticklishfeet

01-24-2005, 04:30 PM

this has the potential to be a very heated subject lol! i have pondered this as have others,, while it is very true that "curvy women" do seem to be more open to the idea of tickling and being tickled ( personal experiance )i wouldnt go so far as to say that they do it as a result of a " lack of attention ",, ive come to a conclusion in regards to this,, women of stature,, ( the ones ive met ) have an appetite for many things,,, they are always full of life! and enjoy the animal appitites a bit more than thier more slender counterparts,, it makes sense that a person with an appetite for good food would also have an appetite for other pleasures as well,, the women ive met who are way too slim have always denied themselves basic pleasures,, such as food and eccess,, food is essential in life and yes we all indulge from time to time,, i have found that a woman who is possessed with the idea of being thin also denies herself in other areas as well,, i dont have the answer to this question only a theory,, but it has always made sense,, ive tickled many of both thin and curvy ladies and i will be honest,, as far as being more fun,,, well my vote goes to the woman with a hunger for life and experiances,,,

natural tickler

01-24-2005, 08:13 PM

OK, here is my attempt to end this so we can move on.

If you are superficial about looks, then big women isn't for you, God Bless you anyway.

If you don't care about size, or color, or anything else, great

As long as it shrieks in laughter, then it should be enough. It is unfortunate, that there are too many ASHAMED and self-centered people out there that cares only about outside appearances:sowrong:

As I said earlier, and I'll say it again: The more meat you have, the longer I stay for dinner:)

and now, back to regular programming

kis123

01-24-2005, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by vryticklishfeet
this has the potential to be a very heated subject lol! i have pondered this as have others,, while it is very true that "curvy women" do seem to be more open to the idea of tickling and being tickled ( personal experiance )i wouldnt go so far as to say that they do it as a result of a " lack of attention ",, ive come to a conclusion in regards to this,, women of stature,, ( the ones ive met ) have an appetite for many things,,, they are always full of life! and enjoy the animal appitites a bit more than thier more slender counterparts,, it makes sense that a person with an appetite for good food would also have an appetite for other pleasures as well,, the women ive met who are way too slim have always denied themselves basic pleasures,, such as food and eccess,, food is essential in life and yes we all indulge from time to time,, i have found that a woman who is possessed with the idea of being thin also denies herself in other areas as well,, i dont have the answer to this question only a theory,, but it has always made sense,, ive tickled many of both thin and curvy ladies and i will be honest,, as far as being more fun,,, well my vote goes to the woman with a hunger for life and experiances,,,

I believe this says it all! I also appreciated NT's comments as well. I think we've successfully beaten the dead horse. I'm finding out that people have their preferences and we're not going to change their minds with a few words. It's not even necessary to do so because they're entitled to their opinions and physical preferences.

Besides, they're enough chubby chasers and plus size lovers to go around!:)

Mitchell

01-25-2005, 01:33 AM

I honestly dont think there is any correlation between weight and being into tickling. TMF has plus sized women into tickling, and thin women into tickling. I have known women of all sizes into tickling since I've gotten into it. In my opinion, I think that the idea of plus sized women being more into tickling is a myth. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is just my view. Look at the members roster and some of the pics posted in the forums, guys, we have women of all sizes and shapes here into tickling. As for off of TMF, Iam sure the same holds true for people into tickling who dont belong to TMF as well.

Mitch

tickleparty123

01-25-2005, 02:05 PM

As for myself, if a woman is attractive, whether heavy or slim, I'll be tempted to tickle her.

That said, it's disheartening to see some individuals pretty heavily beaten upon here for expressing their personal opinions or for offering generalizations that are, to my mind at least, fairly accurate: namely, that slender women are generally considered more desireable than heavier women. The fact that some men prefer heavier women does not alter the general consensus that a slender woman is more attractive than a heavy one - no more than the fact that some men (like myself) have a tickling fetish alters the fact that, for the majority of adults, this sexual preference is considered somewhat aberrant.

My point(s)? I feel for all you heavier women out there (and would be happy to tickle you too!). But there's no need to call in the Thought Police.

unclebill

01-25-2005, 02:34 PM

I think the plus sized women have gotten a little too thin skinned (no pun intended) during the course of this thread. Lighten up (no pun intended) a little bit. Perhaps we can sit around and chew the fat..(no pun intended) Afterall its not over till the ... lady sings!

BellaRisa

01-25-2005, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by tickleparty123
As for myself, if a woman is attractive, whether heavy or slim, I'll be tempted to tickle her.

That said, it's disheartening to see some individuals pretty heavily beaten upon here for expressing their personal opinions or for offering generalizations that are, to my mind at least, fairly accurate: namely, that slender women are generally considered more desireable than heavier women. The fact that some men prefer heavier women does not alter the general consensus that a slender woman is more attractive than a heavy one - no more than the fact that some men (like myself) have a tickling fetish alters the fact that, for the majority of adults, this sexual preference is considered somewhat aberrant.

My point(s)? I feel for all you heavier women out there (and would be happy to tickle you too!). But there's no need to call in the Thought Police.

Preferences are very individual. Someone's going to get annoyed any time generalizations are made, usually whoever is a glaring exception to that generalization (funny, that :rolleyes: ). The women that spoke up on this thread were understandably annoyed with disparaging and largely false comments regarding our reasons for being here, our so-called desperation, how attractive we're considered to be, etc. That's to be expected when insulting comments are made about a group that one fits into. It really has little to do with weight; any time those of us who aren't a 5'10 size 2 are told we're less than lovely and desirable, we're gonna give out verbal fat lips. And why shouldn't we? The average woman in this country is 5'4, weighs somewhere in the 150's and is a size 12. Men love us. They adore our curves. We date, find mates, have babies and live our lives. Men tell us we're gorgeous and we believe them. We don't feel one bit unattractive until some fool in the media tries comparing us to a 14 yr old amazonian child from Czechoslavakia who's been airbrushed and plucked half to death and had makeup put on with a trowel, then taught to smoke and shoot heroin under her big toe instead of eating. It's utterly ridiculous, as are those who feed into it. Normal women can be drop-dead gorgeous and extremely popular, and many of us are, teenage giants and fake-boobed anorexics be damned.

No woman here will deny that many men want a slimmer lady, nor do we begrudge them that-to each his own. I love dark haired, big and brawny men, and I hope the underweight fair-haired boys aren't offended :p . But while I could hypothesize that the smaller, less muscular males with sunken chests don't get as much attention in bars and clubs and have to come here to be noticed, I choose not to because it's both offensive and very likely untrue for the most part-just as it is for we curvier women. Gotta watch those generalizations.

I'm 4'11. If you tell me that many men prefer tall, leggy girls, I won't argue. But if you tell me that short girls aren't as attractive, we're gonna tangle because I'm here to tell you otherwise. And you won't see many girls my height in videos or on magazine covers; doesn't mean we're any less attractive. Trust me :devil:

Off my soapbox for now,

Bella

PS this an an EXTREMELY popular site, have a look:

http://www.lardbiscuit.com/hotchicks.html

I soooo want Via Paxton for a video :firedevil

tickleparty123

01-25-2005, 06:29 PM

Fair enough, Bella, and I hope you know that there was no harm meant in my reply to the thread.

And hey, I'm an underweight pale-haired guy - maybe I should complain about discrimination on that front! :)

kis123

01-25-2005, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by unclebill
I think the plus sized women have gotten a little too thin skinned (no pun intended) during the course of this thread. Lighten up (no pun intended) a little bit. Perhaps we can sit around and chew the fat..(no pun intended) Afterall its not over till the ... lady sings!

Please read my previous post on this very subject matter.....

""I'm finding out that people have their preferences and we're not going to change their minds with a few words. It's not even necessary to do so because they're entitled to their opinions and physical preferences.

Besides, they're enough chubby chasers and plus size lovers to go around!""

I don't think that we're being thin-skinned about being large at all!! To be exact, we are just the opposite. We are confident about who we are, not what society or a few folks around here expressed we should be.

Do you know that fat discrimation is the last allowed prejudice? Do you know we have no real support out there? If I were a drug addict or alcoholic, I'd get more sympathy and empathy? You don't need drugs, alcohol,or cigarettes to live, yet you do need to feed yourself. It is very hard to control at times. Besides, every person who is overweight DOES NOT eat a lot of food, contrary to popular belief. You can't discriminate (blatently) over my race, gender, religious choices and get away with it. But you can make all the fat jokes you want and we're supposed to sit by and allow it, right? I personally don't care if a man accepts me because of my size or not. He's probably someone I wouldn't give the time of day to anyway. I sometimes just get sick of people thinking they know how I think, feel, and operate just because of my size. They couldn't be further from the truth!

This has nothing to do with being thin-skinned. People, myself included get tired of people putting into categories where they don't necessarily belong. I have a job, family who love me, friends who care about me, and all the men I could possibly handle. I'm single by CHOICE, not chance. And I'm not on the internet looking for attention because I can't find it elsewhere.

I've been on this board long enough to know one thing. You are free to express your opinion. Short of the mods deleting your post, no one is going to stop you. However, you may have to prepare yourself for the barrage of feedback your comment may create. Take it from me, the door only swings one way in this arena!

ticklingfeet4fu

01-25-2005, 07:55 PM

In regards to Steph"s statement. She make's herself out to be unattractive but she is awesome. Not only is she awesome but she is ticklish. What a wonderful combination. Loving, caring ,personality, and great looks, who could ask for anything more. Now unfortunately, we have people like Kyle out here who are insensitive and cruel. Not everyone thinks like you Kyle. I message the ladies out here and I don't think what do they weigh? This is a fetish that is fun and/or can be sexual exciting. To lump the ladies into one pot and say they are heavy and that is why they are out here is retarded. You should check any biase at the door or not bother coming out here. Now I know I will probably hear from the MODS but I can't believe anyone could be so cruel. I tickle because it is fun. I don't say I not going to tickle her because she is heavy. I am an equal opportunity tickler. So to Kyle and others like you ...stuff it.

Mimi

01-25-2005, 09:46 PM

Bella, thank you SO much for posting that link! As an admirer of curvy ladies myself, I can honestly say I've got enough drool material for quite some time now!

I think I'm in love.... :wub:

Mimi

Brewhaha

01-25-2005, 10:09 PM

The bottom line (no pun intended...okay, maybe slightly intended) is who really gives a ----? Everyone is an individual and everyone's experiences are different. You can't categorically say that all people of any size, shape, color, sexual preference, etc., are any particular way. To ask if bigger women are more into tickling is just lame...although that's just my humble opinion. Excuse me while I take a nap and ignore all of the flamers to follow...:zzzzz:

By the way, like Mimi, I loved Bella's link. One thing I noticed about all of these women is that they all have gorgeous faces. I don't care if a woman is skinny, a size 12 or a size 16. Just give me a half-decent face and a great personality and I can be in heaven with a "larger" woman just as easily as a "smaller" woman. As for a woman's weight...to paraphrase a popular saying, "Size doesn't matter".
Can we put an end (again, pun only slightly intended) to this subject????

Bagelfather

01-26-2005, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by steph
I always warn guys who haven't met me first that I'm not exactly Kate Moss~ya know what they usually tell me? "I LIKE a little meat on a girl!"

XOXO

You're not Kate Moss?

DECEIVER!

ticklingfeet4fu

01-26-2005, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by featherfingers
I would like to enter my opinion on this matter. Kis brings up a very good point. Look at any of the Steph threads and you will see that she receives more views and posts than anyone else at TMF. She freely admits that she is no Kate Moss, yet there must be something magical about her that brings the guys to these threads. In the 'Images' forum, she received over 17,000 views and is receiving more at this very minute. That's a testament to her beauty, both outside and inside. <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSXXXXXX41US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_5_105.gif' border=0></a><a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSXXXXXX41US' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/25/25_11_63.gif' border=0></a> No Featherfingers she is on Kate Moss she is better than that. She is an absolute Princess. She radiates warmth in her words and compassion and her smile. Steph is an Angel all of us guys look for. But you know what guys she is CLASSY. No more words required.

vryticklishfeet

01-26-2005, 11:57 PM

steph is not only a " cutie" but also has an electric personality! i think in the tickling world a willing lee or ler female who has an awesome and outgoing personality makes the tickling 1000 percent better,, regardless of how they look,, would it change your mind if you knew that a popular tickle model was a bee-yotch? even though she were kate moss thin and super model attractive?,,i was thinking about that today,, if i were in the presence of a thin and gorgeous chick who was very ticklish but was a huge jerk! i wouldnt want to engage in tickling or anything else with her,, ( thats me ),,i love the bigger than life personalities! : )

jugner

01-26-2005, 11:57 PM

ticklingfeet4fu

01-27-2005, 12:13 AM

I know that built Steph up and rightfully so but there are wonderful warm sincere honest and loving ladies I have also been honored to get to know. Tickleshotel, Ticklkitten , Shygirl , Sadira , Giggles32 , Tklgal and plenty more. I think part of it is we share in a love and passionate world of tickling. It doesn't divide us but it unites us. That is when the fun begins when we are united. I am not saying we are better people but we know how to have fun. These ladies regardless of size , color, tall or short are just fun because they allow themselves to laugh. That what make all of you ladies very special and beautiful in my mind. Thank you for reading this post.

steph

01-27-2005, 10:28 AM

:blush: :blush: :wow:
Thank you sweeties! Wow~where's the smiley for "speechless"? :p

XOXO

ticklishscribe

01-27-2005, 02:10 PM

...the bigger the tickllish woman, the more acreage that is ticklish. :p :D :veryhappy :devil:

kis123

01-28-2005, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by tickleparty123
That said, it's disheartening to see some individuals pretty heavily beaten upon here for expressing their personal opinions or for offering generalizations that are, to my mind at least, fairly accurate: namely, that slender women are generally considered more desireable than heavier women. The fact that some men prefer heavier women does not alter the general consensus that a slender woman is more attractive than a heavy one - no more than the fact that some men (like myself) have a tickling fetish alters the fact that, for the majority of adults, this sexual preference is considered somewhat aberrant.

My point(s)? I feel for all you heavier women out there (and would be happy to tickle you too!). But there's no need to call in the Thought Police.

At this stage of this thread, people should know that if they touch certain nerves on certain topics, they're going to hear about it! People don't want to be made to feel unattractive on any level.

No one said people couldn't voice their preferences. It would be beneficial to voice them considering how it would affect others first. If a person doesn't do that and others get upset, it's on them to deal with the fallout. Like I said before, the door swings only one way on this one.

BTW, society has dictated that slender women are preferable to larger women. That DOES NOT mean that every man falls into what society thinks and feels. I've had many relationships, marriage, and two children. Obviously there is a group of men that could care less what society says is attractive. They could further care less what their friends think by having a BBW on their arm and in their bed. So your generalizations are just that-generalizations. Thank goodness not everyone feels the same way.

Iggy pop

01-29-2005, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by kis123

Do you know that fat discrimation is the last allowed prejudice? Do you know we have no real support out there? If I were a drug addict or alcoholic, I'd get more sympathy and empathy? You don't need drugs, alcohol,or cigarettes to live, yet you do need to feed yourself. It is very hard to control at times. Besides, every person who is overweight DOES NOT eat a lot of food, contrary to popular belief. You can't discriminate (blatently) over my race, gender, religious choices and get away with it. But you can make all the fat jokes you want and we're supposed to sit by and allow it, right?

I think their is lot of truth here. I think eating disorders should be treated with the same respect as drug addiction and alcoholism. They all have a problem. I think Anorexia is horrible. I think Bulemia is horrible. I think that overeating and obesity is just as bad. They share a common element: THEY WILL KILL YOU. Yes, I think it's wrong for women who are 100lbs overweight to call themeselves BBWs. To me that is like a smoker calling herself a "sexy smoker" Now, on the otherhand, I believe in ridiculing fat people as much as I believe you should ridicule alcoholics. I also believe that a lot of people that are not overweight think that it is easy for overweight people to loose the weight. It's not! Kis pointed out that not all overweight people eat a lot. This is true. Once you start putting on the weight your metabolism slows down. Also the extra weight slows you down physically. With that exta weight you're joints cannot support vigourous exercise. So you burn a lot less calories. Once you are obese it only takes a few hundred calories to keep you at your obese weight.

Mimi

01-29-2005, 02:08 AM

I still say my sig says it all. Yeah I'm fat, so what? I've never suffered from a lack of attention from either men or women. Being big does not automatically relegate one ugly. And I reserve the right to label and see myself as a BBW regardless of how others feel. I'm fine with myself, and Lazarus finds me incredibly sexy just as I am...so there's some truth to the term. It just depends who you ask.

The only time I have ever been faced with a lack of attention has been when my path has crossed with someone who bases their entire opinion on someone from first glance...one who won't even strike up a conversation with someone not f*ck worthy. And that's their loss. I'd just as soon not associate with people like that anyway. Those who get to know me typically find me to be quite a delight. I'm bubbly, energetic, funny, sassy, and warm, and it makes for a hell of package.

I am who I am, and I am what I am. People reserve the right to judge me as they see fit. But I'm just fine with who I am, and their opinions won't sway mine at all.

Mimi ;)

Elf_Song

01-29-2005, 02:28 AM

I am underweight myself (105 lbs at 5'2") and I know how incredibly hard it is to gain when you need to. I also get approached by people damn near every day at work telling me how awful I look and how I shouldn't wear dark colors because I look pale and sick, trying to force me to eat gross amounts of food, and insinuating that I look this way on purpose. I'm not anorexic or bulimic and I resent being referred to as such. I try to keep myself looking attractive even if my body isn't what I'd like it to be. I know it's not the same, but I can at least partly understand how painful and stressful being overweight might be. You get the same hurtful comments from rude individuals, and insinuations about your lifestyle and personality based on your body. While it's not healthy to be obese (or underweight for that matter), I still have to give kudos to those women and men who love themselves enough to ignore the nagging of others. I still don't know how to do either one of those things, and it gets me down a lot of the time because nobody takes me seriously. They try to tell me that people are saying it as a compliment, but in my book suggesting to someone that they look sickly or that they probably throw up their food is not a compliment of any kind :(