the "baseball only" thread

[K-Skate417]

The Red Sox pull off a win. Now they have a chance to take 3 out of 4 from the best team in baseball with Contrares pitching tommorow. It looks like tommorow will be a great game :bouncybou

[milagros317]

I was happy this morning to see the final score from SF: Marlins 16, hated jints 4. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

A starting pitcher who gives up 5 earned runs doesn't deserve to win (except perhaps in Colorado). He was lucky that the Dodgers' pitching stank worse, that's all.

Never saw Reyes in person before yesterday. Obviously he looked great today.
You can tell me he was lucky all you want Mils, bottom line is he went 7 innings. In fact, those 3 runs he gave up in the 1st inning with his fielders ( Cairo and Beltran ) losing pop ups cost him 3 runs. If his defense did not fail him, he would have only given up 2 runs. It is not like you guys beat him around. Then you blow 2 leads and lose the game. That being said, your team that you predicted to win a World Series has an awful lot of work to do. I expect you to leave Shea today having lost game 3 of this series. But it has been fun Mils. :rotate:

[milagros317]

His ERA for the game was 6.43, and he was the winning pitcher. I call that lucky. Unless you can get the official scorer to change that first inning fly ball from a hit to an error, the runs were earned, and that figure stands.

Concerning the Dodgers, I always predict them to win the World Series. I did so in 1988, and I was one of only two people on earth that I know of who were correct that year. (The other was named Lasorda.)

I will admit that the day Gagne had elbow surgery was the day I no longer expected the Dodgers to be in the post season this year.

I will make one obervation today: I have rarely seen such moronic, mean-spirited bastards as the Mets fans around me today. I can't understand why they hate Jeff Kent. When his name was announced in the starting lineup, and every time he came to the plate, they booed him loudly and yelled obscenities. Just what did he do when he was a Met? I can't recall a Buckner-like incident.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

His ERA for the game was 6.43, and he was the winning pitcher. I call that lucky. Unless you can get the official scorer to change that first inning fly ball from a hit to an error, the runs were earned, and that figure stands.

Concerning the Dodgers, I always predict them to win the World Series. I did so in 1988, and I was one of only two people on earth that I know of who were correct that year. (The other was named Lasorda.)

I will admit that the day Gagne had elbow surgery was the day I no longer expected the Dodgers to be in the post season this year.

I will make one obervation today: I have rarely seen such moronic, mean-spirited bastards as the Mets fans around me today. I can't understand why they hate Jeff Kent. When his name was announced in the starting lineup, and every time he came to the plate, they booed him loudly and yelled obscenities. Just what did he do when he was a Met? I can't recall a Buckner-like incident.Mils in regards to Pedro, luck is always required when playing this sport. Pedro outpitched your staff as Benson outpitched Penny today. It is as simple as that. As far as Kent is concerned, he did nothing when he was a Met. That is probably what he did wrong. He was then traded by the Mets and he became Rogers Hornsby like with his stats. I personally thought it was a dumb trade when the Mets made the trade but that was me. I rarely ever boo an opponent. That is just not me. But Kent was an okay player for the Mets an now he sits on the borderline of being a Hall of Fame player. That is the only reason I can come up with. Other than that I do not know.

[milagros317]

The way I see the 3 winning pitchers, Weaver had a game ERA of 7.50 and was lucky to win, Martinez had a game ERA of 6.43 and was lucky to win, and Benson had a game ERA of 0.00 and deserved to win. But feel free to believe that a pitcher who gives up 15 runs while his opposite number gives up 16 is deserving.

[blondie46]

Cardinals 4 Cubs 4, 9th inning Pujols is up to bat. whooo. adios.

[milagros317]

Very exciting. I've got the game on while I'm posting. :D

[blondie46]

bad turn of events. 4-8 :Grrr:

[milagros317]

That's the way it ended, too.
It made NT and Sadira happy.

[natural tickler]

That's the way it ended, too.
It made NT and Sadira happy.


It sure did make me happy, but unfortunately it seems Wood may need surgery to fix his shoulder. I think it is better to shut him down, and get him ready for 2006

[sadira]

NT, I do believe that's what Tf4f has been saying right along about K Wood. We can't count on him. He's costing us too much $$$ and time just sitting around. Sorry, my friend, but I think we have to admit to this one and start putting a little more effort in those we may get a few wins out of this year. It won't be the World Series, though. Not this year......

[thetickleking]

It won't be the World Series, though. Not this year......

By God, the Cubs are going to get back to the World Series one of these years. I would like to see it atleast once in my lifetime. :rotate:

[sadira]

By God, the Cubs are going to get back to the World Series one of these years. I would like to see it atleast once in my lifetime. :rotate:

I would love to see that too. I just don't see it happening this year, especially with Wood hardly playing any games. Even with the games he has played recently, he's not putting up the numbers we expected and need in order for the Cubs to be a challenge to everyone else.

[milagros317]

I would like to see the Dodgers back in the World Series, ASAP. But it is not going to happen this year. :(

[K-Skate417]

I hate to see all this downing on everyone's teams so I'll put in some good news.

The Red Sox likely have what it takes to go back to the World Series, Just a few more moves they need to make and they can get back there.:D

Of course the White Sox may be a problem in the playoffs if they don't hit a snag soon :ermm:

[milagros317]

Just recognizing reality with regard to my team. :( Wait 'til next year. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I think my team should try to get Soriano to be another bat in this line-up. ;)

[milagros317]

The trade dealine is approaching rapidly, July 31 is this Sunday. Expect a lot of trade rumors and actual trades this week. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I hate to see all this downing on everyone's teams so I'll put in some good news.

The Red Sox likely have what it takes to go back to the World Series, Just a few more moves they need to make and they can get back there.:D

Of course the White Sox may be a problem in the playoffs if they don't hit a snag soon :ermm:Hey K-Skate - stick it in your ear. Don't spread sunshine on our rainy parade. :p LOL

[milagros317]

It will be interesting to see which teams still think that they are one trade away from being a contender this year. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The way I see the 3 winning pitchers, Weaver had a game ERA of 7.50 and was lucky to win, Martinez had a game ERA of 6.43 and was lucky to win, and Benson had a game ERA of 0.00 and deserved to win. But feel free to believe that a pitcher who gives up 15 runs while his opposite number gives up 16 is deserving.Pedro did not give up 15 runs Mils. His defense failed him in the 1st inning. Do you deny that? He gave up 2 runs over the next 6 innings. That is a fact. As a result, Pedro did not pitch as bad as you have made it out to be. It is not like they hit 4 homeruns off of him to account for the 5 runs. Then I would be in full agreement with you that he was extremely luck. But that was not the case. Beltran camped under the ball that fell 10 feet away from him. That is not Pedro's fault. They don't count that as an error because the fielder never touched the ball. # runs scored when 2 outs should have been recorded. You know that. You were there.

[milagros317]

At the time, I thought that Beltran camping under where he thought the ball would come down was quite funny. :p

I notice you are not defending Weaver's performance, and he also gave up 5 earned runs but got a win. So your real quarrel is with the rules of official scoring, which do not allow an error to be charged to Beltran since he never got even close to the ball before it hit the grass.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Did Weaver give up 2 bombs? That was in his control. He threw 2 bad pitches where as all those runs scored in the 1st inning Saturday were the result of misplays by Cairo and Beltran. Do you agree with that?

[milagros317]

If I remember correctly, one of the runs scored in the first inning was by a batter who walked. The walk was 100% Pedro's doing. One of the hits that inning was a clean ground ball single. I would agree that two hits were indeed fly balls in the sun.

But what I would agree to has no relevance to the statistics. The runs were all earned.

Under baseaball's actual rules for official scoring, here is his line for the day:

IP 7.0
H 8
R 5
ER 5
BB 2
SO 4
HR 1

That's what he has to live with, fair or not. He is welcome to curse the fielders who lost the fly balls in the sun.

[natural tickler]

NT, I do believe that's what Tf4f has been saying right along about K Wood. We can't count on him. He's costing us too much $$$ and time just sitting around. Sorry, my friend, but I think we have to admit to this one and start putting a little more effort in those we may get a few wins out of this year. It won't be the World Series, though. Not this year......



tsk, tsk, oh ye of little faith. We are only 4 games out of the wildcard, and we have shown the Cardinals they won't have an easy time winning their division. This isn't over yet. As long as we get in, that's what matters

[milagros317]

I was very happy with the Dodger game yesterday, a victory, and Lowe's best outing of the season. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

If I remember correctly, one of the runs scored in the first inning was by a batter who walked. The walk was 100% Pedro's doing. One of the hits that inning was a clean ground ball single. I would agree that two hits were indeed fly balls in the sun.

But what I would agree to has no relevance to the statistics. The runs were all earned.

Under baseaball's actual rules for official scoring, here is his line for the day:

IP 7.0
H 8
R 5
ER 5
BB 2
SO 4
HR 1

That's what he has to live with, fair or not. He is welcome to curse the fielders who lost the fly balls in the sun.Okay Mils, bottomline lucky or not, his line was good enough to beat your Dodgers. That is the bottomline.

[milagros317]

Now that the Mets are playing the NL West Rockheads, I am rooting for the Mets to win again. :p

[ticklingfeet4fu]

we have shown the Cardinals they won't have an easy time winning their division. This isn't over yet. As long as we get in, that's what mattersCorrct me if I am wrong oh wise one ( personnally Sadira is making an awful lot of sense ) do you trail the Cardinals by 11 games or is that just an illusion? The Cards have run off with the division. You can forget that. Explain how you have shown the Cards that winning the division won't be easy. You won 2 of 3 from them. You did not win 14 of 18. You still have 11 games left with the Cards but you can not expect to win all 11 games. That would be insane to expect that. Forget the Cards and concentrate on getting healthy and maybe a play-off spot. Just remember you lead the wildcard spot by 4 games with 8 games left to play last year. Then along came a rookie by the name of Victor Diaz and just ruined your season. Don't get cocky Natural. Sadira is just speaking the truth about the failures of her and your Chicago Cubs.

[milagros317]

The Dodgers are still in the NL West race. This is not because the Dodgers have been playing well, but rather because the SD Pondscum have lost 7 games in a row.

As a matter of fact, the NL West as a whole is 55 games under .500! :eek:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Dodgers are still in the NL West race. This is not because the Dodgers have been playing well, but rather because the SD Pondscum have lost 7 games in a row.

As a matter of fact, the NL West as a whole is 55 games under .500! :eek:An excellent fact Mils. While all 5 teams in the East are over .500 and they between them are 31 over .500 Trade deadline should prove very interesting.

[milagros317]

When a Division is that far under .500 as a whole, you have to say that it really lacks talent.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

When a Division is that far under .500 as a whole, you have to say that it really lacks talent.It lacks something. If the Padres lose two more in a row it will then lack a .500 team. Which I find amazingly funny. :wowzer:

[milagros317]

It almost happened even when there were only 2 divisions per league. Look at the NL East in 1973. Your Mets were the only .500+ team at 82-79.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I remember that season very well. The Mets trailed the Pirates by 10 games on August 31 and the late Tug McGraw's cry of " Ya Gotta Believe" sparked the Mets to come within one game of winning the World Series. That was truly a remarkable year. We had no one hit 20 homeruns or steal 20 bases. We did not have a 20 game winner ( Tom Seaver won 19 that year ) and we had no one drive in 80 runs or hit .300 that year. That team redefined to term team work. That team had very little ability yet almost won it all.

[milagros317]

I believe that .509 winning percentage is still the lowest on record for any team that got to the World Series. :D

[natural tickler]

Corrct me if I am wrong oh wise one ( personnally Sadira is making an awful lot of sense ) do you trail the Cardinals by 11 games or is that just an illusion? The Cards have run off with the division. You can forget that. Explain how you have shown the Cards that winning the division won't be easy. You won 2 of 3 from them. You did not win 14 of 18. You still have 11 games left with the Cards but you can not expect to win all 11 games. That would be insane to expect that. Forget the Cards and concentrate on getting healthy and maybe a play-off spot. Just remember you lead the wildcard spot by 4 games with 8 games left to play last year. Then along came a rookie by the name of Victor Diaz and just ruined your season. Don't get cocky Natural. Sadira is just speaking the truth about the failures of her and your Chicago Cubs.


first of all, lemme let you in on a little secret. Yes, we do have 11 left with them, 8 in Wrigley, and the Cards don't play too well there. Secondly, in case you forgot, they have an infirmary now, and are stocked with injuries, while we are getting healthy and almost our team back, and are starting to have a hot streak. This isn't over yet, by any stretch, until we are mathematically out. Thirdly, you have enough to worry about with the Mets, instead of being overly concerned about us. Last but not least, just because our team has a lot of injuries, doesn't make us failures at all.

the pipe is passed back to you now

[milagros317]

I am now hoping that the Dodgers can catch the slumping SD Pondscum. :D

[natural tickler]

That's possible, considering their lack of starting pitching, and a slumping, inconsistent offense :D

[milagros317]

It might wind up that every team in the NL West is below .500. :eek:

[natural tickler]

It also might be the first time a division winner is under .500 :wowzer:

[milagros317]

Well, if some team with a lousy record is going to win the NL West, it may as well be the Dodgers. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

first of all, lemme let you in on a little secret. Yes, we do have 11 left with them, 8 in Wrigley, and the Cards don't play too well there. Secondly, in case you forgot, they have an infirmary now, and are stocked with injuries, while we are getting healthy and almost our team back, and are starting to have a hot streak. This isn't over yet, by any stretch, until we are mathematically out. Thirdly, you have enough to worry about with the Mets, instead of being overly concerned about us. Last but not least, just because our team has a lot of injuries, doesn't make us failures at all.

the pipe is passed back to you nowThey have their own infirmary and 11.5 game lead on you. You can't deny that fact. What do you expect to win of the 11 games between you and the Cards? Kerry is down. Sadira is right about that. Why earlier in the year you hinged your hopes on Prior and Wood coming back and now you won't acknowledge to anyone that Wood's injury hurts this staff? Please Mr. Cub help me make sense of it all. By the way, Victor Diaz is suppose to be called up for the Cubs series in New York. :xpulcy:

[milagros317]

I like the vigorous debate in this thread. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I like the vigorous debate in this thread. :DIt does present an entertainment value like no other. But that is the beauty of this particular sport. You can have great debate about any era or whether the baseball was better in the 50's or 40's or 80's or 20's. It does not matter. Baseball will always provide interesting conversation regardless of who you root for.

[milagros317]

It is my belief that baseball is endlessly fascinating. :D
I will be happy tomorrow morning if I find out that the Dodgers, Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers, and Mets all won.

[natural tickler]

They have their own infirmary and 11.5 game lead on you. You can't deny that fact. What do you expect to win of the 11 games between you and the Cards? Kerry is down. Sadira is right about that. Why earlier in the year you hinged your hopes on Prior and Wood coming back and now you won't acknowledge to anyone that Wood's injury hurts this staff? Please Mr. Cub help me make sense of it all. By the way, Victor Diaz is suppose to be called up for the Cubs series in New York. :xpulcy:


If you have read my repsonse to sadira a few pages back, I had said maybe it will be best to shut Wood down and get him ready for next year. I still have faith in my boys and that will never change. If 11 games is the deficit entering Sept then by all means fine, division hopes is shot. But until then, I will think big

[milagros317]

The Dodgers are only 4 games behind the Division-leading Pondscum as of today. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

If you have read my repsonse to sadira a few pages back, I had said maybe it will be best to shut Wood down and get him ready for next year. I still have faith in my boys and that will never change. If 11 games is the deficit entering Sept then by all means fine, division hopes is shot. But until then, I will think bigI did read what you said to Sadira and you told her that she has little faith. She is just being a realistic fan. She knows that the Cubs are a team that is always ready to let their fans down. Examples are 1969,1973,1984,1989,1998,2003,2004. She is just being honest with herself about her team as I am about mine. Mets lose and the Cubs lose. No shame. You are a great fan Natural.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Dodgers are only 4 games behind the Division-leading Pondscum as of today. :DThey are 8 games over .500. :rolleyes:

[natural tickler]

I wish to inform Mils the Cubs won today, beating the hated jints , so even if the Dodgers lose tonight, at least he will have something to smile about.

Next, to tf4f, you are a great Mets fan, and even though we banter, you're fun to banter with. I know sadira is a great Cubs fan as well. All I know is we will make our move, just you see.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I wish to inform Mils the Cubs won today, beating the hated jints , so even if the Dodgers lose tonight, at least he will have something to smile about.

Next, to tf4f, you are a great Mets fan, and even though we banter, you're fun to banter with. I know sadira is a great Cubs fan as well. All I know is we will make our move, just you see.For your sake and Sadira's sake. I really do hope so. I really am being sincere too.

[milagros317]

I do thank the fine Cubs, who, for two days in a row, beat the hated jints with a walk-off run. :D

[natural tickler]

There is a chance that the winner of the West division may have a below .500 record, a first for any division winner

and tf4f, if you mention that infidel's name again, there will be consequences

[ticklingfeet4fu]

There is a chance that the winner of the West division may have a below .500 record, a first for any division winner

and tf4f, if you mention that infidel's name again, there will be consequencesWhy I have no clue what you are talking about? BTW, Sadira and I are going to New York to welcome Victor Diaz back to the Mets. :wavingguy

[natural tickler]

Why I have no clue what you are talking about? BTW, Sadira and I are going to New York to welcome Victor Diaz back to the Mets. :wavingguy


When are you going to New York???

*prepares to bomb tf4f for mentioning the infidel's name :Grrr:

[milagros317]

I checked, and the lowest winning percentage of any team that made it to post season play was .509 by the 1973 Mets.

They won the NLCS and got to the World Series that year, where they lost to the Athletics.

So that record of .509 may indeed by broken by the NL West winner this year.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

When are you going to New York???

*prepares to bomb tf4f for mentioning the infidel's name :Grrr:When the Cubs are in town to meet the Mets. The Mets have Milwaukee then the Cubs on a 6 game homestand. ( this is still being worked out. Nothing is finalized yet.)

[natural tickler]

Well I hope the two of you have fun...who knows, I might see you both in the crows on TV

tell sadira I said hello :wavingguy

[milagros317]

I won't be going to any more Mets games this year.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I won't be going to any more Mets games this year.Wow. Now I really don't understand why. Anyway, I am hoping to get to Shea this year and hopefully go to Comerica Park this season too.

[milagros317]

The NL East is tightly bunched, first place to last place. :eek:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

So is the West but they all stink. Heck if Colorado could win on the road, I would give them a chance to steal that division.

[milagros317]

The Colorado Rockheads are the only team that is far from first place in the NL West. :D

[unclebill]

For the 2nd year in a row the top teams in the National League come from the Central Division. The Astros, Cubs and Cardinals are the class of the league. The only other good team in the NL is Atlanta. Houston really impresses me. They lost Beltran and Kent to larger market teams but play good fundamental baseball and during this current homestand are taking it to the teams from the East Division. Tonight the Mets are pitching their ace against the Astros fifth starter and have a good chance of winning. This could be a long series for the Mets if they lose this game.

[milagros317]

The Astros did win it, with a run in the bottom of the 9th.
It is interesting to note that the NL West is more than 50 games under .500 in total. :eek:

[ticklkitten]

tf4f roots for the Yankees when he thinks no one is looking... :p

[milagros317]

On the whole, yesterday's baseball results make me ill. :xlime: :Grrr: :Grrr: :xlime:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

This roadtrip is killing the Mets. Let's see. They play in 2 parks where even Kitten could hit homeruns( if she was athletic and knew how to hold a bat properly ) and the Mets have scord a total of 10 runs in their 4 losses and 9 runs in their one win. Pitching for the Mets has not been bad though Kris Benson did not have a great outing last night ( first bad start in his last 9 starts ) as the Mets fell to the Astros. The Mets must win these final 2 to make this trip worth anything for them and to close ground on the wild-card leading Astros. Tonight it is Glavine's turn and tomorrow the Mets will turn to Ishii ( though Randolph indicated that Jae Soe could start in Ishii's spot ) to get this trip going in the right direction.

[milagros317]

If I were you, I wouldn't count on Kaz Ishii to do much for you. He will likely walk at least one batter ever two innings.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

If I were you, I wouldn't count on Kaz Ishii to do much for you. He will likely walk at least one batter ever two innings.Do you think I am not paying attention? If you remember, I didn't even want the clown. :ermm:

[milagros317]

And back in March, I was very glad that the Dodgers traded him. For anybody, or for a bag full of broken bats.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Bag full of broken bats sounds pretty useful right about now. Can it pitch? :ermm:

[milagros317]

You can keep warm in the off season by burning the broken bats. But you need to call up a pitcher from AAA to replace the one traded. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

You can keep warm in the off season by burning the broken bats. But you need to call up a pitcher from AAA to replace the one traded. :DThanks Mils. BTW, I see you Dodgers won last night. I watched some of the game. The package had FSN Midwest calling the game last night.

[milagros317]

I'm sure that you really enjoy that baseball package. :D

I would have difficulty staying up until 1am even if I had access to Dodgers' televised games. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The beauty of a VCR Mils. You tape the games and avoid listening to the results. Then you watch you team at your leisure. :rotate:

[milagros317]

Actually that would usually work, with an occasional game cut off in the 15th inning when the recording stopped. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Actually that would usually work, with an occasional game cut off in the 15th inning when the recording stopped. :DSet the VCR up so you can record for 8 hours. I have not heard of the game that has gone 8 hours yet. 7.5 hours yes 8 not yet.

[milagros317]

OMG that is a lot of rewinding to do. :p

[ticklingfeet4fu]

It takes about 4 minutes to rewind an 8 hour tape.

[milagros317]

In fact, I think my tapes are 6 hours rather than 8, although I have seen 8 hour tapes for sale, and even a 6 hour tape would suffice for 99% of games. :D

[K-Skate417]

The baseball results were absolutely perfect yesterday. The Red Sox won and the Blue Jays, Orioles, and yankees lost. :woot:

[thetickleking]

I haven't been keeping up, like I should, the last few weeks, but I'm glad to see what K-Skate just posted^. :bump:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I am not sure about the rumor that Natural heard in regards of 3 team trade. :eek:

[K-Skate417]

I doubt the Manny trade will happen. If the Red Sox are smart they will keep him as the two guys they would get for him would be good, but not good enough. More would need to be thrown in.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I doubt the Manny trade will happen. If the Red Sox are smart they will keep him as the two guys they would get for him would be good, but not good enough. More would need to be thrown in.Tell me what this trade is all about. I still have not heard anything. :wowzer:

[unclebill]

Manny would give the Mets a lift as they are now in last place. It appears that Houston will break out the brooms Sunday and sweep the 4 game series. The Mets don`t seem to get much for all the money they spend.

[K-Skate417]

Tell me what this trade is all about. I still have not heard anything. :wowzer:

Tampa backed out now so this trade is unlikely. As usual Tmpa asked for way too much. They wanted Hanley Ramirez from the minor league system.

But the trade would have been Manny goes to the Mets. Mike Cameron and Aubrey Huff go to the Red Sox . And Baez would have gone to the Mets. Wouldn't have been a good deal. If the Red Sox do go through with the insane move to trade Manny, they should at least get a great starting pitcher from somewhere along with an outfielder. But I doubt he will be traded.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Tampa backed out now so this trade is unlikely. As usual Tmpa asked for way too much. They wanted Hanley Ramirez from the minor league system.

But the trade would have been Manny goes to the Mets. Mike Cameron and Aubrey Huff go to the Red Sox . And Baez would have gone to the Mets. Wouldn't have been a good deal. If the Red Sox do go through with the insane move to trade Manny, they should at least get a great starting pitcher from somewhere along with an outfielder. But I doubt he will be traded.I heard a couple of our minor league propects were sought after. Who is Hanley Ramirez? Right now the Mets could use a bat. It does not have to be Manny, It could be Soriano but they need someone to lengthen the line-up.

[K-Skate417]

I heard a couple of our minor league propects were sought after. Who is Hanley Ramirez? Right now the Mets could use a bat. It does not have to be Manny, It could be Soriano but they need someone to lengthen the line-up.

Hanley Ramirez is the star of the Red Sox minor league system. They are hoping to bring him up to the majors next year. He would likely be used at second base or shorstop. And if he is used as a shorstop Renteria may be moved to the outfield.

But if you want Soriano, move quickly. Twins want him too. And I'd have to say they need him more. I will have to also agree with an ESPN commentator that said the Twins offense right now has all the drama of a quilting bee.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Hanley Ramirez is the star of the Red Sox minor league system. They are hoping to bring him up to the majors next year. He would likely be used at second base or shorstop. And if he is used as a shorstop Renteria may be moved to the outfield.

But if you want Soriano, move quickly. Twins want him too. And I'd have to say they need him more. I will have to also agree with an ESPN commentator that said the Twins offense right now has all the drama of a quilting bee.
You obviously have not been watching the Mets because they are averaging least than 3 runs a game on this roadtrip. And they were in hitters paradise ballparks. If I thought you could hit I would have my team recruit you. The Mets just plan suck offensively.

[K-Skate417]

You obviously have not been watching the Mets because they are averaging least than 3 runs a game on this roadtrip. And they were in hitters paradise ballparks. If I thought you could hit I would have my team recruit you. The Mets just plan suck offensively.

I sitill think the Twins are worse for offense. They just get lucky at times. Or end up facing bad pitching. But I have sen a few Mets games lately and do agree they need more offense. It will be interesting to see what happens before 4pm today.

[milagros317]

Today's happy final score from Milwaukee: Brewers 5, hated jints 1. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Today's happy final score from Milwaukee: Brewers 5, hated jints 1. :DBut your Dodgers lost so how does that make you happy? Are you the kind of fan that would prefer a Giants loss over a Dodger win? :(

[milagros317]

The Dodgers have not lost; in fact they just scored 3 runs in the bottom of the 8th inning to tie the game at 5-5. :D

My order of preference is this:

1. Dodgers win, hated jints lose
2. Dodgers win, hated jints win
3. Dodgers lose, hated jints lose
4. Dodgers lose, hated jints win

With the hated jints' game being over first, I see nothing wrong in being happy that 4. is no longer possible. :D :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Should know that I did not realize that the Dodgers scored 3 in the 8th and the game is now in the 10th inning. I should go watch the rest of the game.

[milagros317]

Top of the 11th now. I'm glad the Dodgers have tomorrow off, to rest after an extra inning game.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I was hoping that the Mets would get a very tired Brewers team but the Giants lost 5-1.

[milagros317]

The game ended badly, in 11 innings. :( :( :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The game ended badly, in 11 innings. :( :( :(I will be rooting on your Dodgers this week against the Nationals.I will also be rooting for the CUBS ( do you see this Natural ) against the Phillies. The Reds against the Braves, the Cardinals against the Marlins and the Diamondbacks against the Astros.

[milagros317]

I can see your reason for these choices. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I can see your reason for these choices. :DI thank you kindly for your understanding in this matter. :rolleyes: :cool: :D

[milagros317]

Since the Dodgers have no chance in the Wild Card race, I just concentrate on rooting for the Dodgers and against the other NL West teams. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I would agree with you in that the Dodgers have no shot at the Wild Card

[milagros317]

Clearly, some team in a Division where at least two teams are over .500 will win the Wild Card. The NL West is not such a Division. :eek:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Your division doesn't have anyone near .500. It actually is laughable. :jester:

[milagros317]

It will be hilarious if the 1973 Mets' record (lowest regular season winning percentage of a team in the World Series) gets broken this year, by the Dodgers. :p :jester:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I was thinking about that. I actually think that that division will be won by a team around or below .500 I actually believe the Mets record will be broken this year.

[milagros317]

It would be funnier yet (to me) if the Dodgers won the World Series, after winning the NL West at 79-83. :p

[ticklingfeet4fu]

What is funny Milagros is that you will not give that up. What about any team from that division winning the World Series with a losing record. :yowzer:

[milagros317]

It would be mildly funny if it were done by the Pondscum or the Dickheads.

It would be a tragedy beyond belief if the hated jints did it. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

It would be mildly funny if it were done by the Pondscum or the Dickheads.

It would be a tragedy beyond belief if the hated jints did it. :(I think you are being a little tough on the Giants. Don't you think??? :rolleyes:

[milagros317]

The hated jints have not won the World Series since 1954. It is my sincere hope that they never win it again. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I probably knew that already. I know also that you have not won a World Series since 1988 and the Mets since 1986.

[milagros317]

Not even to mention the two Chicago teams (Cubs not since 1908, White Sox not since 1917).

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Since Natural was not out here I decided to hold that card until I heard from him again. :rolleyes: :rotate:

[milagros317]

Now, don't be unkind to the poor, long-suffering Cubs fans. :D

[K-Skate417]

As long as we're taliking about how long it's been since teams have won the World Series I shold mention that the Red Sox won the 2004 World Series. And hopefully they can do it again this year. But the relievers need to improve for this to happen. :rotate:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

You say that, but it would be the first thing you would say if the Cubs and Dodgers were to meet in the playoffs. :rolleyes:

[ticklingfeet4fu]

As long as we're taliking about how long it's been since teams have won the World Series I shold mention that the Red Sox won the 2004 World Series. And hopefully they can do it again this year. But the relievers need to improve for this to happen. :rotate:
Who invited you? Where did you come from? By the way, be quiet about your Blow Sox ( just kidding )

[milagros317]

It's also the first thing that I said last year when NT said unkind things about the Dodgers. :p

[K-Skate417]

Who invited you? Where did you come from? By the way, be quite about your Blow Sox ( just kidding )

I didn't need an invitation. And second of all the word you meant to spell is "quiet" :p:p:p

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I think the Red Sox were better off staying pat. I think that they are the best team in the East. Look at the Yankees, they can hit and catch but they can't pitch. Randy Johnson today gives up 5 runs in 7 and a third innings. That is their best pitcher. Imagine what their worst pitcher will do.

[K-Skate417]

I think the Red Sox were better off staying pat. I think that they are the best team in the East. Look at the Yankees, they can hit and catch but they can't pitch. Randy Johnson today gives up 5 runs in 7 and a third innings. That is their best pitcher. Imagine what their worst pitcher will do.

The yankees have just been getting lucky lately. Red Sox can win the division I believe. Orioles are fadinf fast it's just those pesky Blue Jays climbing now. But without halladay, they don't have much of achance to contend. The Red Sox have a more favorable schedule the rest of the season so things look good so far. :couch:

[milagros317]

I'm looking forward to September, when the Dodgers play 25 of their 29 games against NL West teams, and the other 4 against the Pirates. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

That will help Mils if your team does not get clobbered in August. :D

[milagros317]

You are correct. We need to come out of August within 5 games of first place. (Obviously, it would be better if we come out of August in first place.)

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Well you can count on me to root for your team for 19 games and against you for 3. I will root for you with Washington for 3 , Phillies for 3 , Braves for 3 , Marlins for 4 , Houston for 3 and the Cubs for 3. I will root against you for the 3 against the Mets.

[milagros317]

The 3 games against the Mets come on the weekend of August 12 to 14. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I know that. I was looking on the Dodgers website to get their August schedule.

[milagros317]

I have a xeroxed, shrunk Dodger season schedule in my pocket calendar. :D

[natural tickler]

The Cubs have acquired a true leadoff man, and I believe we will take off now, also Nomar, Kerry Wood and Scott Williamson will join the team come friday

[milagros317]

I never dispute people's predictions that their team will do well. Time will reveal the actual results.

In fact, it is clear now that the NL Wild Card won't to an NL West team, so I don't care who gets it.

[natural tickler]

I guess that puts more pressure on the Dodgers to win their division, because you don't have an wildcard safety blanket

[milagros317]

Exactly. The eventual Wild Card team will likely have a better record than all 5 teams in the NL West. So we either win the Division, or go home in October with nothing.

[natural tickler]

The only way the West can get their safety blanket back would be to have 2 or more teams get really hot down the stretch, and everyone else tread water

By my calculations, 88-92 wins should wrap up the Wild Card

[milagros317]

And by my calcualtions, 80-82 will likely be good enough to win the NL West. :p

[unclebill]

From what I have seen so far, I would put my money on the Marlins or the Astros in the NL wild card race. The starting pitching on those two teams is downright scary. If they get some clutch hitting down the stretch either team will be hard to beat. As to the Cubs, it really gets old hearing the same tired excuses year after year from them. Every good team goes through injuries, look at what the Cardinals have gone through the last several weeks. Half of their lineup is from their top farm club in Memphis. I think the Cubs have all the talent to win, but they always have some sort of excuse when they lose. I was impressed when they came to St. Louis last weekend, and won 2 out of 3 games in scorching hot weather. But since then they are losing games at Wrigley Field to teams that they have no business losing against. As far as the Mets and Phillies are concerned, both teams have good players, but just not enough of them.

[milagros317]

Not games today. Everybody will be back in action tomorrow. :D

[Mitchell]

The Braves won again tonight, which, combined with another Washington loss, gives them a now season high 5 1-2 games lead in the NL East. I think they should win the division unless they collapse. They have been playing well, while Washington is playing awful. It looks like division title 14 in a row will come our way if we dont screw it up the last eight weeks.

Mitch

[milagros317]

The Dodgers hit 4 home runs to beat the Nationals 5-4. :D :D

[K-Skate417]

The yankees felll another game behind the Red Sox today :woot:

[milagros317]

Now I have to hope that the hated jints lose while I sleep. :D

[unclebill]

Mitch, I think you can be assured that your Braves will win the East Division. They have an amazing minor league system that develops some great young players every year. And their manager is one of the best in baseball.

[milagros317]

The AL Central in 2003 finished the year at 70 games under .500, so the current NL West will not necessarily be the worst division ever in that regard. :p

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Cubs have acquired a true leadoff man, and I believe we will take off now, also Nomar, Kerry Wood and Scott Williamson will join the team come fridayI admire your spirit Natural. I really do. How long will Kerry Wood be with the team now? I am not being funny. I would like a sincere educated answer. I am not breaking your chops. I really want to know. You seem to put a lot of stock in Kerry. BTW, I think that was a great move acquiring Matt Lawton. That is a move that will help you in the Wildcard chase. I am rooting the Cubs until Friday this week. Very happy the Cubs beat the Phillies 2-1. Though it was very nervewracking. Ryan Dempster almost put one in the Dumpster with 4 walks in that ninth inning. The Mets beat the Brewers 9-8 in 11 innings. This dispite the fact that the Mets gave up 5 homeruns in this game. The Mets were gutty. This would get them and keep them in this game. Their win in combination with the Phillies,Nationals and Marlins losses gets the Mets and Cubs ( who are tied with each other ) a game closer. Houston's game in still going with the Astros leading the Diamondbacks 2-1. The Astros ended up beating Arizona 3-1. Which very much saddens me but there is still time.

BTW Natural, Kerry Wood is not slated to come off the Disabled List until August 8th which is Monday. He was placed on the disabled list on the 15 day disabled list on July 25th. He will definately miss the Mets series as will Mark Prior. Hill , Maddux and Zambrano will face the Mets this weekend. We will throw Glavine, Ishii and Zambrano at you guys this weekend. We both trail the Astros by 4 games for the wildcard. This is so much fun. :xpulcy:

[milagros317]

I am pleased to report that the hated jints lost while I was asleep. :D Combined with the Dodgers win earlier, Tuesday was a perfect baseball day.

[blondie46]

The Cardinals are in Florida.

[milagros317]

The Dodgers play their 2nd game in recorded history in Washington, DC, tonight. So far they are 1-0 there. :p

[Mitchell]

The Braves lost to the Reds tonight, and, combined with Washington's win, thus lost a game of their lead in the NL East, which now stands at 4 and a half games over the Nationals.

Mitch

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The New York Mets are 13-9 when Pedro Martinez pitches as they suffered a bad loss at the hands of the Milwaukee Brewers. Pedro went 7 innings gave up 3 runs and left with a 4-3 lead. The bullpen which has now lost 6 games that Pedro has pitch in blew another game tonight. As a result the Mets were unable to gain a game on the Braves and lost ground on the Nationals and Phillies and Astros. Final score from Shea,the Milwaukee Brewers 6 - the New York Mets 4.

[milagros317]

The Dodger pitching staff did its job yesterday, allowing 3 runs. Of course, the offense stank, as usual, and the game was lost, 3-1. :( :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Well my friends, the Cubs invade New York to take on the Mets. These 2 teams both need this series badly. The Cubs are 2-1 against the Mets this season. Natural was indeed right in that Wood and Garciaparra will be back for this series as they get activated for tonight's game. The 3 game set will start with a 7:10pm EDT start then a 1:25pm EDT start on Saturday. Sunday's game is the ESPN game which is an 8:10pm start EDT. Saturday's starting pitcher has changed for the Mets as Willie Randolph will go with Jae Soo to go up against Greg Maddux. This is a change as Kaz Ishii was suppose to start this game. I can only say that the Mets are in for a long weekend if Derrek Lee continues to pound the ball as he has all season long. Sincerely the best of luck to Natural and Sadira as the their Cubs try to stay in the hunt. Cubs and Mets are both 54-54. There are only 54 games left to both teams season. The time for talk is over. Both teams need it. My onlt regret is that Sadira and Natural and I are not going to be together to watch these 3 games. I just know it would be fun.

[milagros317]

The Dodgers played poorly yesterday in all aspects of the game, and lost 7-0. :( :(

[unclebill]

The trio returned, but the Cubs lost anyway to the Mets, dropping them to 4th place in the Central Division, a whopping 15 games behind the Cardinals. Once again it looks like its "wait till next year" for the Cubs and their loyal fans. It has been 97 years since the Cubs last won the World Series.

[milagros317]

The Dodgers managed to beat the last-place Pirates yesterday, 12-6. Nothing to get excited about.

[unclebill]

I don`t follow the American League nearly as much as the National, but the Oakland A`s sure have been playing some ball. They might just be the best team going these days.

[milagros317]

I really want the Dodgers to sweep this weekend series. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Interesting match-up with the Cubs invading Shea Stadium to take on the New York Mets. Greg Maddux with his 313 lifetime wins taking on Jae Seo. An absolutely outstanding pitching performance by both pitchers leading to an interesting game. Maddux went 7 innings and gave up 2 runs on 4 hits with 2 walks and 5 strikeouts. Jae Seo went 7 1/3 innings giving up NO runs on 4 hits. Seo struck out 4 and walked 1. The Mets came away with a 2-0 win. For the Cubs, they drop 2 games under .500 and the Mets are now 2 games over .500. Tomorrow is Zambrano vs. Zambrano as the Mets play host to the Cubs in game 3 of this 3 game set and close out the 6 game homestand. Mets and Cubs can be seen by the country at 8:00pm EDT. on ESPN.

[milagros317]

I commend you for a very restrained post, TF4F. :D
If the Mets win again tomorrow, though, I expect to see some gloating.

[sadira]

Trust me, Mils, he's not so quiet here at home. LOL He and NT have had rather heated discussions over the past 2days regarding the Mets v. Cubs. :bump:

[milagros317]

This I believe. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I commend you for a very restrained post, TF4F. :D
If the Mets win again tomorrow, though, I expect to see some gloating.Actually Mils, I am not so sure. I mean if the Mets should be fortunate enough to win tonight's game and the Astros lose to the Giants the Mets will be only 2 games behind the wildcard leader. I would be viewing it as another important game as oppose to the Cubs. I mean after tonight I have to turn my attention to Tuesday and the Padres in San Diego. The Mets have not played well on the road and the Padres and the Dodgers are not to be taken lightly. Just as I had not taken the Cubs lightly. As the Mets continue to stay in this race the games become that much more important. I just toy with Natural. The Cubs are a good team. They have great pitching but have been hurt by lots of injuries. But Derrek Lee is an awesome player.

[milagros317]

The way the Dodgers have been playing since June, you can take the 3 games in Dodger Stadium lightly. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The way the Dodgers have been playing since June, you can take the 3 games in Dodger Stadium lightly. :(I don't think with the way the Mets have played on the road that any team can be taken lightly. We swept away San Diego and I know they want revenge and we took 2 of 3 from Los Angeles, I know they have something to say at home. :shock:

[milagros317]

I hope you are correct, but I am not optimistic about next weekend. :D

[unclebill]

The Cardinals pulled out a big one in the bottom of the 9th when David Eckstein hit a walk off grand slam homer to beat the Braves by a score of 5-3. Even though the Cardinals won, I am very impressed with the talented young players that Atlanta has brought along this year. That is one hell of a minor league system they have.

[milagros317]

Today was an excellent day in baseball. I say this because the Dodgers won, 6-4, and the hated jints lost, 8-1. :D :D

[K-Skate417]

Yesterday was somewhat enjoyable for baseball. The Red Sox did win 11-7 but that was one weird game. Lots of players forgetting how to play. Or how many outs are in the inning. But overall it was decent. The only thing I had a problem with was the way Cora played at third base. If you aren'y going o get hits it's your job to play defense. And 2 errors is just un excuseable. The thing that baffles me though is Graffanino can play all infiels postions so why didn't they put him at 3rd and Cora at 2nd? :confused:

[milagros317]

The Dodgers have today off. Let us hope that they can beat the Phillies tomorrow. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I am hoping you will sweep the Phillies this week Mils. I know that the Rockies helped today by sweeping a doubleheader from the Florida Marlins. Great job Colorado. Now Arizona go into Florida and kick the Marlins back into the ocean.:p The Mets go to San Diego and Pedro goes to the hill for the Mets. Let's Go Mets. :rotate:

[milagros317]

We will be rooting in synch for 3 days in SD and LA. They we will be rooting in oppostion. So it goes. :D

[unclebill]

After sweeping Milwaukee in a three game series, the Cardinals travel to Chicago to play four games against the Cubs. This rivalry is one of baseballs best, and should be exciting. I am really surprised by the recent collapse of the Cubs. They are currently nineteen games behind the Cardinals in the standings, and rumors are flying all over about Dusty Baker`s job being in danger.

[milagros317]

NT must be in a foul moood.
The Dodgers' situation doesn't make me happy, either. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Mets kept pace with the Astros , Marlins and Phillies as they beat up on San Diego 9-1. Kris Benson went 8 1/3 innings giving up 1 run on 3 hits. But the story here was 22 year old David Wright who went 4 for 5 with 2 singles a double and a 3 run homerun. David had 6 RBI on the night. David Wright is now hitting .301 with 17 homeruns and 70 RBI on the season. Not bad for a guy who started playing on the major league level on July 21st, 2004. The Mets beat the Padres 9-1. They play this afternoon in San Diego with Tom Glavine going for the Mets.

[milagros317]

Another day, another loss, as the season goes down the drain. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

On a day that Tom Glavine pitched 7 strong innings and gave up 2 runs and had 3 hits himself , the Mets would lose the game 2-1. But this is not the story of the game. In fact you almost forget about the game. In the 7th inning with 1 out pinch-hitter Dave Ross blooped a fly into shallow right-centerfield. Carlos Beltran races in from his position in centerfield and Mike Cameron races in from his position in rightfield. Both running at full speed both dive and they crashed head to head in right-centerfield. One of the most violent collisions in the history of the sport. Mike Cameron layed on the ground motionless as Sadira was crying at what she had just seen live. Beltran slowly started to move as you could see the side of his head and face swell right before your very eyes. Beltran eventually would walk very slowly off the field and Cameron right now is in Mercy Hospital in San Diego. For those of you who end up watching it on Sportcenter or wherever you get your sports news from the collision is not for the faint at heart. So if you see the play know it is a horrible head-on collision and it is a very scary scene. The Final Score from San Diego, The Padres 2 - the Mets 1 .

[milagros317]

Saw it on ESPN Sports Center, ghastly collision. :(

Odalis Perez pitched well last night and got the Dodgers a victory. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Saw it on ESPN Sports Center, ghastly collision. :(

Odalis Perez pitched well last night and got the Dodgers a victory. :DThere is a rumor that Cameron is lost for the season. It is also thought that Beltran will be out for a little while. Floyd who was hit directly on his left kneecap with a 91 MPH fastball might also be out for tonight's game. A horrible way to go about chasing the Astros. The Mets might be losing their entire outfield for this weekend. The Mets horribly lose at least 2 outfielders. But should all 3 be out, the Mets will need to replace 52 homeruns and 170 RBI's for this weekend. :ermm:

[milagros317]

Of 29 teams in MLB, I can truthfully say that I am never happy to hear of any player being injured.

(We all know which team is the 30th to me, and it is not your Mets.)

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Of 29 teams in MLB, I can truthfully say that I am never happy to hear of any player being injured.

(We all know which team is the 30th to me, and it is not your Mets.)
All I can say is that is the first time in my 32 years watching I had never seen a baseball collision or in any sport where 2 guys could have easily broke their necks on 1 play. The collision is probably the worst collision in sports history. :shock: :sowrong:

[milagros317]

Of two players with each other, yes.

Peter Reiser fractured his skull running into an outfield wall. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Of two players with each other, yes.

Peter Reiser fractured his skull running into an outfield wall. :(I remember hearing about Reiser. Cameron with this collision broke his nose, fractured BOTH cheekbones and has a concussion. Could have been much worse. But these 2 guys looked like their careers were over the second they collided. Sadira immediately started to cry saying that "Cameron's not moving, he's not moving." She was really upset.

[natural tickler]

The Cubs finally won a game. Imagine that...

well, by the looks of things, everyone has counted us out...however, there are seven weeks left, and if we gain a game a week, were right back in. It's not over yet

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Cubs finally won a game. Imagine that...

well, by the looks of things, everyone has counted us out...however, there are seven weeks left, and if we gain a game a week, were right back in. It's not over yetI think I heard that somewhere. I wonder where that came from? :idunno:

[natural tickler]

It's called optimism, and hope

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I am hoping that the Mets figure out how to bounce back from all these injuries. It is amazing that you can potentially lose your entire outfield in one game. :shock:

[milagros317]

The Dodgers won last night in dramatic fashion, via a walk-off HR in the bottom of the 10th inning with two outs. :D

Today, the Mets lead right now, 2-0. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Dodgers won last night in dramatic fashion, via a walk-off HR in the bottom of the 10th inning with two outs. :D

Today, the Mets lead right now, 2-0. :(You guys need a closer? We can give you Braden Looper for a bag of roasted peanuts. Sounds like a deal we can make. You forgot to say that 2 back-up players gave the Mets a 2-0 lead so far and with Reyes who has stolen 2nd base on 3rd now with only one out. :cool:

[milagros317]

We don't need Looper.
We do need a catcher who can throw out at least 30% of runners attempting to steal.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Well he did throw out Reyes but Saenz dropped the ball. That is not your catcher's fault. :ermm: I am however enjoying this game immensely. :rolleyes: I still think you need Looper. How about a half bag of stale peanuts? You don't even have to roast them. :)

[milagros317]

Why couldn't your Mets win their series in San Diego? Their timing about when to win is off.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

They would have won game 3 of that series until Beltran and Cameron crashed. That allowed the winning run to reach base and eventually score. As far as my team's timing is concerned,they are still with a MUCH better record than the Dodgers. Then you can add this game that the Mets just won 5-1 and you guys are now 12 games under .500 :wavingguy

[milagros317]

The Mets came into existence in 1962. Since then, the Mets have won 2 World Championships and the Dodgers have won 4. :D

Since then, the hated jints have won 0, yes, NONE. :p

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Mets came into existence in 1962. Since then, the Mets have won 2 World Championships and the Dodgers have won 4. :D

Since then, the hated jints have won 0, yes, NONE. :pWhat do those numbers mean today? The Final Score from Los Angeles: Mets 5 - Dodgers 1. :rotate: :D

[milagros317]

I always keep a sense of baseball history. :D
It helps, during bad seasons like this one. I can replay the video tapes from 1988. :p

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I always keep a sense of baseball history. :D
It helps, during bad seasons like this one. I can replay the video tapes from 1988. :pThat is funny. Then after you watch 1988, I can bring you back to reality and 2005 and how bad your team has performed this year. :rotate:

[milagros317]

You have to go back to 1986 to see a winning World Series for your team.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I don't deny that. But I have been to the World Series since 1986. Unfortunately we lost to the hated Yankees. :mad:

[milagros317]

The Mets and Dodgers conclude their season series tomorrow.

[K-Skate417]

Well the Red sox have managed to beat both Garland and Buhrle, two of the best pitchers in baseball. And they are going for the sweep tommorow. This series has proven to me that the Red Sox are in pretty good shape for the rest of the season :cool:

[milagros317]

The Dodgers are not in good shape. :(

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Well the Red sox have managed to beat both Garland and Buhrle, two of tyhe best pitchers in baseball. And they sre going for the sweep tommorow. This series has proven to me that the Red Sox are in pretty good shape for the rest of the season :cool:I will not go into the spelling mistakes in this post K-Skate, however, if you think that Garland and Buehrle are the 2 best pitchers in baseball, then you really do not know the game. To even put them on the level of Clemens, Morris, Martinez, Maddux is insane. They may have great records but they are NOT the best in baseball or 2 of the best in baseball. If they do for the next 5 years what they are doing this year then and only then can you call them 2 of the best in baseball. Please do use a favor, buddy get a grip. I mean have you forgotten about Randy Johnson? I know he is having a bad season but these guys do not have Johnson's stats. How about Bartolo Colon? Barry Zito? Tim Hudson? Mark Mulder? Please get a grip. They ARE NOT the 2 best pitcher's in baseball. :wow: :sowrong:

[milagros317]

The hated jints and the Pondscum lost also yesterday. :D

[K-Skate417]

I will not go into the spelling mistakes in this post K-Skate, however, if you think that Garland and Buehrle are the 2 best pitchers in baseball, then you really do not know the game. To even put them on the level of Clemens, Morris, Martinez, Maddux is insane. They may have great records but they are NOT the best in baseball or 2 of the best in baseball. If they do for the next 5 years what they are doing this year then and only then can you call them 2 of the best in baseball. Please do use a favor, buddy get a grip. I mean have you forgotten about Randy Johnson? I know he is having a bad season but these guys do not have Johnson's stats. How about Bartolo Colon? Barry Zito? Tim Hudson? Mark Mulder? Please get a grip. They ARE NOT the 2 best pitcher's in baseball. :wow: :sowrong:

Well, what I meant to say is they are two of the best ones this season. Zito, Mulder, and Hudson never impressed me when even when they were pitching better. Clemens and Maddux are two of the best. Martinez is great but not one of the best. He's just doing better because he is in the NL. Remember what happened when the Mets faced the Mariners this year? Morris isn't that great either. Colon is still good though.

[milagros317]

I will watch the Dodger game at 4pm, and probably stop posting here during the game.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Well, what I meant to say is they are two of the best ones this season. Zito, Mulder, and Hudson never impressed me when even when they were pitching better. Clemens and Maddux are two of the best. Martinez is great but not one of the best. He's just doing better because he is in the NL. Remember what happened when the Mets faced the Mariners this year? Morris isn't that great either. Colon is still good though.The guy won 180 games in the American League. He is a Hall of Famer that makes him a great pitcher. For his career so far he is 194-80 which is a winning percentage FOR HIS CAREER of .708. You are giving me one game against the Mariners. I am giving you a career. Can you tell me that any of the 2 from the White Sox or any other pitcher pitching right now that can boast that winning percentage in more than 150 decisions in their career? Morris isn't great? He is better than Garland and Buehrle. That is a fact. Buehrle is 82 - 50 in his career winning percentage of .621. Garland is 62 -57 in his career with a winning percentage of .521. Matt Morris is 99-56 with a career winning percentage of.639. Please choose your words and your arguments wisely.

[milagros317]

The Braves had a 7-run inning against the Dickheads, and now lead 12-4, which is good. :D

The Marlins are leading the hated jints 4-0 in the 7th inning, which is good. :D

Now, I hope the Dodgers can score some runs today against P. Martinez.

[unclebill]

Jayson Werth hit a 2 run homer in the bottom of the 8th, what a game!!! Final score: Dodgers 2, Mets 1.

[milagros317]

What a game indeed. The Mets got 1 run on 10 hits, and the Dodgers got 2 runs on 2 hits to win. :D

The only other Dodger base runner was M. Bradley, who walked in the first inning--only 27 Dodgers appeared at the plate: 24 put out, 1 left on base, 2 runs. :p

[natural tickler]

My Cubbies took 3 of 4 from the Cardinals, and now are headed to Houston to which they can get right back in the wild card race with a sweep or 2 of 3

[milagros317]

I can't help but think this: The Dodgers are 5 games behind the first place SD Pondscum today, and have 6 games still to play against said Pondscum. So things are not as bad as they seem. :D

[unclebill]

My Cubbies took 3 of 4 from the Cardinals, and now are headed to Houston to which they can get right back in the wild card race with a sweep or 2 of 3
The Cubs played well over the weekend against the Cardinals. Kerry Wood was spectacular, pitching in relief. But tonight they got smoked by Houston 12-4, dropping them 7.5 games behing the Astros for the wildcard. Washington seems to be playing well again, much to my surprise. I thought they were toast. Milagros, the Dodgers have had some tough injuries to deal with. I hated to see J.D. Drew go down. He is a heck of a player. Folks in St. Louis loved his potential, when he first came up in 1998 some compared him to a young Mickey Mantle, while others predicted he would be the next Stan Musial. So the fans nicknamed him Mickey Musial. :smilestar

[milagros317]

With J.D. Drew and Eric Gagne healthy, the Dodgers would be quite a bit better. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Well the Cubs ended up winning 2 out of 3 as did the Mets from the Pirates. Interesting that the wildcard standings now have Philadelphia on top with Washington and Houston both trailing by a half game and that the Marlins trail by only 1 game. The Mets by 3 and by golly look at the Brewers who trail by only 5 games ( 60-62 ) with the Cubs at 5 1/2 games behind. Cubs play the Rockies this weekend, Pittsburgh is in Philadelphia , Washington plays the Mets. Dodgers are in Florida, San Diego will go against Atlanta and Milwaukee took the first game of a 4 game set with Houston in Houston last night. This sets up to be a great weekend for the baseball fan. Each game with great importance. It is conceivably possible ( not likely mind you ) that by the end of the weekend that the Phillies and Mets share the wildcard lead with Washington , Houston and the Marlins remaining where they are. and the Brewers being 2 games back and the Cubs behind by 2 1/2 games. Like I said,it is unlikely but for Brewers and Cubs fans they will be Pirates, Mets and Dodgers fans all weekend to make that scenerio possible and tighten the screws even more on a wild wildcard race. :rotate:

[milagros317]

The Dodgers took 2 out of 3 from the Braves in Atlanta. :D :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Dodgers took 2 out of 3 from the Braves in Atlanta. :D :DYeah but they lost to the Marlins tonight 3-0. Jason " I hope he has jock itch " Werth struck out with 2 runners on in the ninth and then other losers struck out after him. Final from Florida: Marlins 3 - the Dodgers 0. :ranty: :ranty: :ranty:

[unclebill]

The Cardinals scored 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to edge the Giants 5-4.

[milagros317]

That was a truly wonderful thing that the Cardinals did to the hated jints. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

That was a truly wonderful thing that the Cardinals did to the hated jints. :DBut the Dodgers lost so it means nothing.
To top it off you lost a game to the Padres who DID their job and BEAT the Braves 12-7. Other news of importance, the mighty Kansas City Royals lost their 19th game in a row as they drop a 4-0 heartbreaker to the A's. Boston beat the Angels 4-3. The Tigers hit 5 homeruns including 2 by Carlos Pena as the Tigers ripped into the Blue Jays 9-5.The Yankees behind Mike Mussina defeated the Central Division front running White Sox 3-1. In the National League, the Mets beat the Nationals 1-0 behind a great pitching performance of Jae Seo. Seo is now 5-1 with an ERA of 1.09. The Astros are now in front in the wildcard standings again as the beat the Brewers 5-3. The Cubs beat the Rockies 5-3 as the moved to within 5 games of the Astros. The Pirates beat-up the Phillies 11-2 and in a meaningless game the Reds crushed the Diamondbacks 17-3. Today every fan in the National League who is chasing the wildcard leader are all going to be big Brewer fans for the moment.

[milagros317]

Yesterday, the Dodgers won and the hated jints lost. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Today's games were probably what you would expect for a Sunday. I will start at Shea Stadium where the Mets were beaten by the Washington Nationals 7-4. The Nats scored 6 runs in the 1st inning and never looked back. In Florida, the Dodgers were overmatched by the Marlins as they crushed the Dodgers 7-1. In Houston, the Astros topped the Brewers 8-3 as the Astros remain 1/2 game behind Philadelphia who beat Pittsburgh 4-3. In Colorado, the Cubs were nipped by the Rockies 9-7. The Reds continued their winning ways as they beat Arizona 13-6. The Giants doubled up the Cards 4-2 and the Padres and Braves game is just under way.

In the American League, I just finished watching the Royals beat the A's 5-4 in 12 innings. Earlier the Red Sox shut down the Angels 5-1. The Red Sox got back the game they lost yesterday to the Yankees as Randy Johnson surrendered 4 homeruns in 1 inning including back to back to back jacks as the White Sox snapped their 7 game losing streak 6-2. The Indians inch closer to a wildcard spot as they beat the Orioles 5-1. The Twins knocked off the Mariners 8-3.Tampa Bay beat Texas 6-3 and the Tigers scored 7 in the 1st, 2 more in the 2nd as they ended up jumping out to a 15-0 lead before holding off the Blue Jays by the final of 17-6.

Wildcard Standings- American League
Oakland 68-55 -
New York Yankees67-55 1/2
Cleveland 68-56 1/2
Minnesota 66-58 2 1/2
Toronto 63-60 5
Detroit 60-62 7 1/2
Baltimore 60-63 8

Wildcard Standings - National League
Philadelphia 67-58 -
Houston 66-58 1/2
Florida 65-58 1
Washington 65-59 1 1/2
New York Mets 63-60 3
Milwaukee 61-64 6
Chicago Cubs 60-64 6 1/2

These are up to date as of 8pm 8/21/2005
This week's games include:
Cleveland at Tampa 4 games
Toronto at Yankees 4 games
Oakland at Detroit 3 games
White Sox at Minnesota 3 games
Angels at Orioles 3 games
In the National League:
Monday Dodgers finish their series with Florida 1 game
Florida at Milwaukee 3 games
Braves at Cubs 3 games
Houston at San Diego 3 games
Cincinnati at Washington 3 games
Mets at Arizona 4 games
Philadelphia at San Francisco 3 games.

[milagros317]

Today's results were sickening, and erased the game that the Dodgers gained on the hated jints yesterday.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Today's results were sickening, and erased the game that the Dodgers gained on the hated jints yesterday.If I were a Dodgers fan ( I am not obviously ) I would be more concerned about the Padres as opposed to worrying about the Giants. The Giants are behind you. The Padres are in front of you. :wow:

[milagros317]

OK then, the Pondscum are leading the Braves 2-1 now, but the game is not over yet, it's the 8th inning. Go Braves!

[ticklingfeet4fu]

OK then, the Pondscum are leading the Braves 2-1 now, but the game is not over yet, it's the 8th inning. Go Braves!I know that score. I am really happy that the Padres are beating the Braves this weekend. How are you Mils? :couch: :D

[milagros317]

Obviously, I am rooting for the Pondscum, the Dickheads, the hated jints, and even the lowly Rockheads to lose when they play outside the NL West.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Obviously, I am rooting for the Pondscum, the Dickheads, the hated jints, and even the lowly Rockheads to lose when they play outside the NL West.
I had rooted the Dodgers for 2 weeks but your team disappointed me several times. So now that your heads have been handed to you today I will root you on against the Marlins tomorrow while I hope my team can help you against Arizona and San Francisco this week. :happyfloa

[milagros317]

I will certainly be rooting for the Mets when they play in Arizona and in SF. :D

Today, for the Mets against the Nationals, I didn't care one way or the other.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I will certainly be rooting for the Mets when they play in Arizona and in SF. :D

Today, for the Mets against the Nationals, I didn't care one way or the other.I know you didn't care. But I certainly cared that the Dodgers got their heads handed to them in 2 of the last 3 games.

[milagros317]

You may or may not care that I went to Coney Island today and saw the Brooklyn Cyclones rally from a 3-0 deficit to take a 4-3 lead, blow that lead, and rally from 6-4 deficit with 5 runs in the bottom of the 8th inning to win, 9-6, over the Aberdeen Ironbirds. :D

[ticklingfeet4fu]

You may or may not care that I went to Coney Island today and saw the Brooklyn Cyclones rally from a 3-0 deficit to take a 4-3 lead, blow that lead, and rally from 6-4 deficit with 5 runs in the bottom of the 8th inning to win, 9-6, over the Aberdeen Ironbirds. :DThat is cool. How do you like that ballpark? I really do not pay attention to the minor leagues. :shock:

[milagros317]

It is a very nice little park, with a good view close to the field from most seats. Also, it has a better variety of food for sale than at Shea Stadium.

[ticklingfeet4fu]

It is a very nice little park, with a good view close to the field from most seats. Also, it has a better variety of food for sale than at Shea Stadium.This is good to know. One day Sadira and I must go to New York when the Dodgers are in town and "take you out to the ballgame". :cool:

[milagros317]

That would be very nice. :D

[unclebill]

The Cardinals beat the Pirates 8-3. Chris Carpenter becomes the majors first 18 game winner. Carpenter has to be considered the top candidate to win the National League Cy Young award.

[milagros317]

The Dodger game is just underway. :D

[General Zod]

What is this "baseball" you are talking about? Will it help me in my quest for world domination? :D :D :p

[milagros317]

I doubt it.

http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/official_info/official_rules/foreword.jsp

[unclebill]

What is this "baseball" you are talking about? Will it help me in my quest for world domination? :D :D :p
Any things possible General. Hopefully you are not a Cubs fan, as they haven`t dominated anything since 1908. :cry1:

[milagros317]

The Dodgers host the Rockheads tonight, while the hated jints are idle. :D

[unclebill]

Cardinals win again, taking 3 out of 4 from the Pirates. It was a historic night for Manager Tony LaRussa as he moved passed Sparky Anderson for 3rd place in victories. He now trails John McGraw and Connie Mack.

[milagros317]

Hard to catch Connie Mack, he managed (the same team!) for more than half a century. :D

[unclebill]

Hard to catch Connie Mack, he managed (the same team!) for more than half a century. :D
John McGraw has 2763 wins and Connie Mack has 3713. Tony LaRussa has 2195 and counting. Its doubtful he would catch either of those two. LaRussa has done a very good job this year, as the Cardinals have had so many injuries.

[milagros317]

Of course, I hate John McGraw, since he managed the hated jints.

[unclebill]

Milagros, did you ever get to see Ebbets Field?

[milagros317]

No, I was 7 years old the last year that the Dodgers played there, too young to go by myself, and my parents were Yankee fans who took me to Yankee Stadium.

[unclebill]

I have a friend who is an aquaintance of Johnny Podres. I hope someday to have a chance to meet him and hear some stories about his days with the Brooklyn Dodgers.