I nominate Celtic Emperor...

[rajee]

I nominate Celtic Emperor to get his own archive because he has consistantly submitted great artwork to the artwork forum for 3 years and continues to improve his skills and artwork. Celtic Emperor has also expanded his tools to use to submit artwork from Computer graphic programs to felt pens and pencil crayons to a tablet.

I say he more than deserves an archive. :cool: :happyfloa

[BigNorm]

well, he does have his own in TT, but ya never know.

[rajee]

I have my own forum in TT too and I got an archive here as well. :)

[Celtic_Emperor]

Thank you for the nomination, rajee. I appriciate it. Thats very thoughtful. :)

It would seem I do not meet one of the qualifications however. I have not been nominated in the Golden Feather Awards. I would like to take this time however to explain why, and hopefully that would make a difference in my having a forum here or not.

First and foremost, it would seem that no one wanted to or would nominate me. This is actually not true. I had several offers from friends who wanted to nominate me, but I declined even nomination in addition to participation. This may seem surprizing to some, so I'll explain why I've turned being a part of this contest down since I've got here.

First, it seems like a really important event, being held only once year and all. Because of that I felt that though not professional, the event does retain a symbolic value of a hollowed tradition here.

I respect that.

And out of respect I felt that back then it would have been premature to enter as I felt (even though some would disagree) I wasn't well established yet to make being in the running for an award acknowledging work in tickling worth it.

In light of this...err..revelation, I would hope it does not disqualify me from recieving the priviledge of my own artwork forum.

I equally would hope that my time here and my efforts are worth more/hold more baring and weight than the technicalities of a single event there will have been no way to know now I needed to participate in.

I'd also like to point out that on TickleTheater, I was the first artist to recieve his own art forum, and I only had to ask for it (like some of us are doing here). I was also the one with the idea who suggested to the owner of TT that there should be a section for our regular, resident artists. He agreed and the forum was created (much like this one, though much earlier on). I don't expect this to gain me any extra favor here, but I would hope that it illustrates to you my concern about artists getting the exposure they need and deserve and that I was instrumental in TT's best and brightest getting theirs.

I would hope you consider me one of those worthy of having that exposure here as well. Especially given all we've been through and the time, efforts and art I've yet to share with you. Thank you. :)


EDIT: Sorry for the speech and all, but I felt it necessary to explain why I don't meet one of the "requirements" and rather, in lieu of that, match it with something else.

[Low_Roads]

I wouild like to add my voice to those requesting an artist's archive for Celtic Emperor, whom I know primarily as Vladislaus Dracula at the TTC. As mentioned, he already has his own very popular artist's forum there, one which he runs responsibly and updates regularly. A Celtic Emperor archive, where fans can reliably find his fine fetish and anime contributions, would benefit the TMF just as much. He's already one of the best recognized and sought-after artists working in this field: honoring him this way only makes sense. And in addition to the excellent quality of his artwork, he's most eloquent and generous at addressing questions concerning motivation and technique. Lately, he's been turning out new work like gangbusters, and it's a shame not to have it localized here for easy access. This is something I'd very much like to see. I hope others feel the same way and speak up!

[Sailornapper]

I, hmm what number is up to now, eh oh whatever isth Celtic Emperor getting a gallery forum for his work. A great mix of tickle and non tickle works that he has done and all are just great and I haven't seen one I haven't liked.
(hope said that right)

So yeah I vote he should get one. :D

[scavenger]

I too like Celtic Emperor's work, and I agree to the fact that he deserves his own forum here.

You've got my vote, Celtic Emperor (or Vladislaus Dracula -as I know you from Tickletheater)! :)

[Senshi]

CE should definately have his own forum. I've seen nearly all (if not all) of the art he's posted, and I've always loved it. Since I joined these communities, CE has always been one of the "big boys" when it comes to contributing original artwork.

[grippedchimp]

Hey Celtic, here's a little tip, mate: Ask and ye shall receive...

"Requirements" not necessary. See instore for details.

[milagros317]

I support the nomination of Celtic Emperor for his own archive. Don't be shy about accepting, CE. :D

[Celtic_Emperor]

Thanks everyone. I appriciate it. :)

@ GC- Actually, I did ask not too long ago, and my request was denied, which was because of the requirements which Myriads has in fact posted for public viewing in his sticky thread in this forum.

He didn't know why I was not in past GFAs, which is probably what motivated his decision at the time. Theres obviously a big difference between choosing not to be in it and failing to, perhaps because no one thought you were good enough, and that can be percieved as no "popular demand" for you (whether its true or not). I can see how it works in principle using the Golden Feather as a stepping stone of sorts, but in case by case situations like this where talent predates the institution of such a requirement, it's flawed.

But now that rajee has been kind enough to nominate me in this way, I already am meeting the second requirement, which was several people posting nominations or replies to nominations.

Personally, I think having requirements and the like, of any kind, undermine and hamper the process of allowing talent to more openly share their work, and rather than requiring them to accomplish "tasks" as it were, we would allow time, effort and talent to speak for itself instead. I could see where a newbie would need to be recognized first and established before he or she asked for a forum or someone did for them, but I don't fall into that category. It would have been true three years ago, but not today.

I just hope this situation is a fluke.

As the california valley girls say though- "what-ever!" :p

[Celtic_Emperor]

Don't be shy about accepting, CE. :D

I'll try. ;)

[Falcon Tk]

I nominate Celtic Emperor by one personal space in TMF with the anothers Artist my personal reason...The Celtic Emperor count with one Excellent tickling art (My favourite the Cammy Revenge versus Chun_li) and count with one very good style and count with much time in The tickling and Bare feet art world and no count with one personal space in TMF by the post of personal and cute art...Is my reazon by the nomination.

Good day good luck...And greetings.

[Hungarian2]

My vote goes 2 Celtic_Emperor. :happyfloa His work is simply amazing. :dogpile:

[Celtic_Emperor]

Thank you. :)

[Nandrox]

I'm so sorry that I red this too late!!! (my internet connection died for a while), but I do vote for Celtic!!! :shake:

He deserves his own space, deffinetly his newest artwork really shines... and his natural drawings can make a double-edged forum (anime/tickling art) just for it!!!

I completely support that!!! <<<<---- <<<<---- <<<<----

[Celtic_Emperor]

I'm so sorry that I red this too late!!! (my internet connection died for a while), but I do vote for Celtic!!! :shake:

He deserves his own space, deffinetly his newest artwork really shines... and his natural drawings can make a double-edged forum (anime/tickling art) just for it!!!

I completely support that!!! <<<<---- <<<<---- <<<<----

LOL! Don't worry. I've been gone myself for quite some time due to computer repairs. Its no biggie. And thank you for the support. :)

[Nakor]

Well it would seem that you still don't have a forum or my eyesight is worse than usual. Tho if it's not the eyesight thing then I vote for him to have a forum of his own as well. =)

I've been a fan of his work for quite sometime.

[Celtic_Emperor]

Well it would seem that you still don't have a forum or my eyesight is worse than usual. Tho if it's not the eyesight thing then I vote for him to have a forum of his own as well. =)

I've been a fan of his work for quite sometime.

No, your eyes are not decieving you. I do not have a forum yet. You and everyone have apparently been wasting your time and effort, and in vain.

I was told (in their opinion, or I should say his opinion) that I don't have enough tickling artwork and that is the ONLY reason I've been repeatedly denied, and that if I had enough tickling material (how ever much "enough" is in their opinion), that I'd have my forum, no problem.

I'm not going to jump through hoops for them or anyone though or draw even more of something when I'm comfortable where I am with it. MORE is not necessary, I believe the quality is far more important, and thats what makes me unique.

I don't just suddenly deserve a forum when a magic (or imaginary) number of pictures is met. I either deserved it when this whole artist forum thing started (no, before that) or I didn't.

If I didn't (in their opinion) deserve it then, then being led on like this is unnecessary and even rude, to a degree. In fact, I'd much rather just be told I'm never going to get one so that I can just forget about it and put this behind me.

I don't care anymore, and it's only out of curiousity to see what happens, if anything, that I even respond. I don't want you to think I don't appriciate your support, afterall. :)

[Celtic_Emperor]

Oh, also, I apparently don't have enough "community spirit". He just tacked that on to what I'm lacking. And I'm not patient either. Its been months and month and months and everyone comes before me, but dear me, I'm not patient.

I'm also supposed to be quiet too. And not say a word. Funny then how Kahosiden, who practically threatens to leave this site if he doesn't get a forum , is given one the very next day, and then others. You can't honestly tell me that isn't a crock of bias bullshit right there.

This is bullshit, and I'm through with the excuses, the lies, and the pretexts.

I have plenty of community spirit. If I didn't I woundn't draw these things, much less share them, people. I wouldn't allow you to make requests either. I certainly wouldn't have joined and then stayed, through thick and thin with you TMF people if I had anything less than a community spirit.

This is just a game now, and I'm above the game, above this situation, and above this favoritism. I'm not going to fight for his piss on table scraps when I have better waiting for me elsewhere. Of all the places I have good fortunate and situations, this is the one and only place, on the ENTIRE internet, where things don't pan out for me.

I said above that I didn't care anymore, and to make that true, I've leaving this site in an artist capacity and will no longer share with you.

I will remain to give comments and critiques and to talk as I do in the general discussions and politics forum, but that is all.

I've given much more than my share, even beyond what you would expect in genre and theme.

It is clear to me that my artistic values and presense are not truely respected by key elements of this staff (who decide everything), and I'm tired of the run-around. I deserve just as much as everyone else here and to be treated the same, with no excuses or exceptions.

Your prejudices and bias have made this an issue, not my stubborness, or lack of "community spirit". You're just as stubborn as I am, you hypocrites.

Thank you for those that have watched me all this time, and thank you to those that have only watched me until now.

I know the small handfuls only represent a fraction of the people who enjoy what I do, and I want to say thank you to the community at large for noticing me. Its been fun. :)

You will still be able to see my pictures on deviantart and on Tickletheater.com. If you need any info, feel free to contact me. :)

Adios! :)

[rajee]

I will not use mine until you get yours CE. :smilestar :devil2: :veryhappy :cool2: :)

[Celtic_Emperor]

LOL, this thread is still here? I thought it will have been deleted.

Rajee, I appriciate the effort in making the thread, and I appriciate your offer, but don't bother.

Even if he did give me the forum now, its too little too late. In fact, it would be an insult to give it to me now.

Plus, I wouldn't have wanted to get it through blackmail or anything of the sort.

[Celtic_Emperor]

Although, other artists here, perhaps even some of our most prominent, have swayed Myriad's hand through blackmail of their own. As I have just learned, some of them made bids against me (in private of course, but that does little to protect their identities), and that is a contributing factor it seems in my not getting the forum. And obviously this was a demand/request they repeatedly made when they saw my support growing.

So people, you have our own artists to thank for this, in part. Our own, brooding artists.

This was something I already suspected and confronted Myriads with, but I didn't want to say anything until I heard it from the horse's mouth. I knew he was being influenced by outside sources, and he denied it until now. :)

Isn't that unsettling? :p

I'd NEVER turn on another artist. Even if I hated them, I wouldn't try and keep them from getting something they deserve.

You artists know who you are.

And you listen here. You're cowards. And you did a low and cowardly thing based on your petty, temporal emotions. I can hold my head high knowing I've never done anything like this or took part in it.

I won't forget this betrayal, and it will come back to you in one form or another.

[rajee]

It's not a good sign when members of a community begin to fight amongst themselves. It's like corrosive acid forming in a stomach, eventually it will destroy the stomach from the inside out.

CE - I'll have to give it some thought if I will post anything in there due to the politics surrounding it.
I hate politics. :Grrr: :ranty:

[Celtic_Emperor]

Thats what makes this so contemptable. It wasn't done in my knowledge, to my face, and rather, behind my back. You know me rajee. I've always been one to work and talk it out.

Thats what makes them cowardly. There was no "fight" then. How can there be when their actions are secretive and done out of sight? It was more like putting drops of poison in my food than fighting me. It was just petty emotions which they refused to get past, they let them breed and live inside them, and they used this event to take advantage of and release those emotions. They use the past as their weopon, with the present as their enemy.

Records will show I've had NO problems of any kind with anyone in a long time. That is proof enough that they can't let things go and whenever they see me or think about me, its in a negative way. They see spectres and demons, when really, its them projecting their old feelings unto me.

No wonder it was so difficult for me to aqquire this thing, when there were people behind the scenes trying to stop it. What makes it defiant, is that they continued to try at seeing my support rise. Perhaps they felt that if they didn't try harder I would "win".

I'm not sure to think of this as a relief or not. Because it does mean if not for them, I may have otherwise had the forum, and much sooner. :)

Anyways, I see where this is going, and its going to a dark place no one wants to go.

I believe I've appeased my own feelings by airing the dirty laundry of the others, enough. Now you all know why this didn't happen and we can all be more honest.

It wasn't because I didn't deserve it, it wasn't because my art wasn't good enough, it was something far worse- it was because some artists here plain don't like me.

Those artists meant more to him than you all did, the average userbase. He chose to focus on the negatives of the past and not the positives of the present and future.

I don't know about you, but over something as simple as a forum for me to post my work in, something that would only take 5 minutes to make, I'd be angry if I were you to know that this was so needlessly complicated and that to an extent your efforts were wasted and already decided against.

Your opinions meant nothing, here. I'm sorry. I was really hoping you all could make a difference, and I once again thank you for the support at the time. :)

[kahoshiden]

Let me lay this on yah man. Alot of times, you don't make tickle art. This is a tickle board. That's why you don't have a forum.

[Celtic_Emperor]

If only it was as simple as that. Which I used to believe it was, until I learned how committed others are too.

I'm already well aware of that. However, it is just one aspect and it would be very unbalanced so as to say or assume it is the only reason, especially from outside perspective. I can at any time draw more if I felt it was necessary (or I wanted to) or I felt my fanbase wanted more. They are quite frank with me, and they will have made these types of accessments and requests as they always do, albeit, not always in the eyes of the viewing public. Many are quite shy and dare not say anything publically for fear of privacy/identity issues and embarassement.

There are some very people on this website, people you wouldn't expect, people close to you even who you probably think don't like me, who have come to ask of my services, and would it surprize you to know that they don't necessarily ask for tickling material and that some of the non-tickling things I've drawn were requested by these people?

There IS a balance, therefore. You just don't see it because you're judging it by the material that you see with your eyes rather than the balance of those that have requested it. It's what the people want, and often enough, its what the people get. What you see is often times a product of what they want, just as much as it is mine. And if the people didn't want me or my art, I would have stopped a long time ago. The artists may have given me the cold shoulder treatement on purpose over the years, but no one else does, so the intentions could never be more clear here and the support and divide no more transparent.

The fact the entirety of this thread is a show of support for my efforts, in ANY capacity, tickling or not, is proof enough of that. If these people didn't feel I deserved a forum, they wouldn't have posted, and the thread never would have been made.

The only thing that has stopped this from happening though, as was revealed, is that some artists and people complained (only you know what you said, I just hope for your sakes it wasn't a lie, exageration, half-truth, blackmail, threat, "I'll leave or stop sharing if you give him the forum!" type of deal, or you rationalized it away based on your personal feelings. Whatever though, thats your pettiness and I hope you had no part of it).

The fact is though, I am good enough, I am talented enough, I am supported enough, and I met all of the requirements Myriads asked of the artists. It just didn't pan out because of some negative opinions, which, for a reason I'll never understand, seem to mean more than the pros and positives of this.

People looked into the past to determine the future, when the present is all that matters. If the honest people could come to the conclusion that this would be nothing by a good thing, then I can see why others had hang ups about it.

You're a pretty smart guy, and you're smart enough to know how the politics and cliques work on this site. If certain cliques push enough (one way or the other) something happens or it doesn't. If it was as simple as you say, it would be a whole other matter.

As it would have stood though, the forum was as good as mine. Because I have decided to not share any longer however, we'll never know which side would have prevailed.

Myriads himself reluctantly admitted to me he was about to give me the forum but...etc. etc, people played their ace cards, etc. etc.

We'll never know. And as far as I'm concerned, its better left a mystery.

If you read all of this, it means you have a good enough attention span. Good for you. *gives K a cookie* :D

[kahoshiden]

No, I didn't read all of that because it's all ranting and you can't face the facts so prevent you from ever getting a forum for your art work. Keep typing long ass pointless posts.

[Celtic_Emperor]

No, I didn't read all of that because it's all ranting and you can't face the facts so prevent you from ever getting a forum for your art work. Keep typing long ass pointless posts.

I've faced more facts than you could possibly imagine. None of these facts, as you say, are set in stone. They are just a sign of the times as determined by key individuals within this site.

It's not my problem if you refuse to read it, so I don't know why you're continuing to post or trouble yourself over this matter. The topic was concluded until you stepped in. I suspect it had something to do with mentioning that you threatened to leave and jump ship. And if thats what it is, then you're lying and you do read my posts.

I don't know what you're looking for, but you won't find it here. Your sudden "bravery" to say something is interesting and commendable, but you shouldn't entertain it too much as the more you invest here, the more you lose...not to me, but to yourself. No one has you reading this thread, afterall. As it does involve me however, and the nature of my presense on this site, it only makes sense that I stay with it. :)

I've already told rajee if he wants to delete the thread that it's fine. He has decided to keep it open, and since Myriads has clearly expressed no interest in it to me, it's likely to stay here and be updated by the support it gets.

Remember, its not as if I bumped it. People are bumping it for me, on their own. Thats not my problem, though I do appriciate it. :)

[kahoshiden]

W/e man, I just wanted to tell you why you ain't gettin a forum.

[Celtic_Emperor]

W/e man, I just wanted to tell you why you ain't gettin a forum.

You didn't need to tell me, it was very obvious very early on that its a factor, but it is not what stopped this. I am the one at the center of this. I know everything I need to know, and some things I don't, and some things the opposition doesn't think I know. And that is just one aspect of it, rest assured.

Its easy for you to look at it that way, but not when you don't have all the information about what went into this, for and against me.

You can't always judge things just based on what you see, or what is apparent. While the answer is usually the most obvious one, this is not one of those situations, though others may beg to differ.

You act very certain, very strong, and very proud right now. And forgive me for saying so, but that isn't like you at all. Eeither this situation and your feelings for it have brought out the best in you, or the worst.

Either way, I hope you channel it properly.

[SirDigbyChickenCaesar]

I almost never post here, but after reading this thread I had to. If someone came up to me and asked me to name 10 tickle artists, Celtic Emperor would be on that list. Kahoshiden would not be on that list, as I don't think very highly of his work at all. At this point CE, I think you should leave this site as it is clearly a hostile environment for you, at least as far as the Mods go. I look at your art and then I look at the art of some of the people that do have their own archives and I shake my head wondering how talent that doens't even come close to yours can beat you out for such a thing. This is clearly favoritism on the part of the Mods in charge of this, and it is stupid. So let them give archives to people that don't deserve them. You know how good you are and you don't need to hear otherwise from idiots and assclowns.

[Celtic_Emperor]

I almost never post here, but after reading this thread I had to. If someone came up to me and asked me to name 10 tickle artists, Celtic Emperor would be on that list. Kahoshiden would not be on that list, as I don't think very highly of his work at all. At this point CE, I think you should leave this site as it is clearly a hostile environment for you, at least as far as the Mods go. I look at your art and then I look at the art of some of the people that do have their own archives and I shake my head wondering how talent that doens't even come close to yours can beat you out for such a thing. This is clearly favoritism on the part of the Mods in charge of this, and it is stupid. So let them give archives to people that don't deserve them. You know how good you are and you don't need to hear otherwise from idiots and assclowns.

I actually had someone once before quote Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop when she said "What am I doing? I'm throwing my pearls before swine."

This person, who will remain anonymous for obvious reasons, LOL :D, was comparing my situation here to Faye and how, in their opinion, she and I are with undeserving company and that she/I can somehow do far better.

But as this person only quoted an anime character (a very good quote though, I love that show), you spoke with an unadulterated tone (well established by the fact you've been here since 2001), and I am moved by your honesty with YOURSELF above anything else. It took courage to say that. You are now officially an underdog. :)

Thank you for the support. :)

However, as I've stated before, the TMF is not my problem. The people are not my problem. The mods are not my problem. Most of the artists are not my problem. I PERSONALLY do not have a problem that troubles me here other than this one. As it was explained to me by the boss man himself, I do not have this forum because some of the other artists managed change his mind. He admitted in the same conversation that he was about to give me the forum, but that he was experiencing further resistance from these artists and that in his opinion, along with what he felt was campaigning (which was really just a spirited effort), it was enough to stay his hand. For all I/we know, they simply threatened to leave or not post art, or something, and as any adminstrator would do unfortunately, he decided losing 1 was not worth losing possibly more, and he rationalized it away to me.

I can understand the plight they must have put him in but they knew what they were doing, as it forces him to choose when he may not want to, or he leaves/left it up in the air to prolong said decision.

This is mostly likely why he would not say yes or no to me about getting the forum. A part of him, I feel, wanted to give it to me either sooner or later, and he spoke with those undertones all throughout. I don't envy him, and the decisions he has to make just to make things hold together a moment longer.

In the end, I only really looked at the forum as a locker to store my art. It is sad that such a thing had to happen over a locker and they felt that threatened by me. Over an organizer, over a linker, over something that would have done more good than harm for this site. Why are they willing to put up with my art, but not if it's in a forum? Thats silly. In fact, what harm would it have done? Absolutely none. And that is what baffles me about this. How do you justify, or rather, condemn this? It just doesn't make sense logically, which leaves you with the conclusion that this isn't the way it's supposed to be.

It's upside down and not rightside up. The pros are bad, the cons are good. The glass is half empty rather than half full.

This situation is a stalemate as far as I'm concerned. The matter is neither over, resolved, or gone until Myriads himself tells me no, you are not getting a forum today, tomorrow, or ever (if he did I could just let this go). Even if this thread is deleted or closed the situation will still be there and linger and none of us can deny it, because it's already in our minds.

Until such a time comes that Myriads is willing to risk invoking the ire of these artists who don't like me, and do the right thing (how can you honestly argue about this being a bad thing in and of itself), then I cannot post artwork here.

I realize this is unfair to most of you, but if those artists can do something like this, get away with it, and keep their identities a secret so you can't bash or boo them (or not) then I don't see how what has happened is fair to me (and you, by extension).

All I can suggest to you is maybe talking to Myriads yourselves guys, like how I tried, and like how those artists obviously did. Numbers seem to get the job done. If he allows them to march up to him like that, and then doesn't like it when you do it, then isn't that calling a spade a spade.

Realize that YOU, the people, should rightfully decide this. And from what I've seen and heard, and the fact this thread exists, you don't seem to be mattering or counting for anything in this situation. A small handful of artists have rule over you. Thats even worse than my not getting the forum. The forum is not a life or death thing and I can let it go (just not on these uncertain and vague terms) but to see you and your opinions being underminded so easily really upsets me.

It's not like this anywhere else I go, and thank the Heavens for that.

Thanks again. :)

[isabeau]

Let me lay this on yah man. Alot of times, you don't make tickle art. This is a tickle board. That's why you don't have a forum.


there is a non tickle section for art here right?

isabeau

ps i like your drawings Celtic Emperor and you sure have a loyal fan in rajee.

[Celtic_Emperor]

Yeah, and even that took some doing to get done. I don't want to take full credit for it, since the number of people sharing non-tickling work is on the rise, but I did push for the forum myself. It's fortunate we have it, even if it will be underutilized by most.

This artwork forum is completely different however, as it would allow me to post my artwork all in one place, as it deserves to be, rather than in two seperate locations where the effort is divided and my efforts are isolated. Fans wouldn't have to go here and there, and it would make finding things alot easier, since its all in one place. Thats exactly how Myriads discribes the intent of the forums as well.

I wouldn't pay much mind to what Kahoshiden said when he said that. It was very presumptual as to why I don't have the forum. Its one out of several factors, which I have gone out of my way to explain. It's obviously pissing some people off, but its the truth, and its not so black and white. That's just an attempt to dismiss it, and it isn't fair to the process. In the end, enough people like the fact I contribute at all, and feel I should get the forum regardless of any other facts. When you seperate animosity from all of this, you're left with a reasonable conclusion- enough people don't care what type of art I share, so long as I do and enough feel I should be rewarded for it.

Finally, thank you again. :)

[meangry]

Just so you know, if someone is contributing they deserve some level of recognition. Now I don't know why he does it here since he doesn't 'share' our fetish...but I'm not at all against it. I like people who have moxie and don't put up with crap.

I never understood forum politics...it's a joke.

[Celtic_Emperor]

Just so you know, if someone is contributing they deserve some level of recognition. Now I don't know why he does it here since he doesn't 'share' our fetish...but I'm not at all against it. I like people who have moxie and don't put up with crap.

I never understood forum politics...it's a joke.

Hi there. :)

Why do I do it here? I was invited to and encouraged when I asked. Never, at any point and time, was it ever implied to me (or anyone) that sharing my artwork period was wrong, something this website does not want (from any artist), and that anything you contribute isn't of worth, value, and appriciated.

I do get your basic level of recognition, this is true. However, I do "share" your fetish by actively participating in drawing tickling pictures on a consistant basis. My gallery is not devoid of tickling pictures (just recently I drew another one). Statistically, for every 5 or 6 pictures I draw, 1 is a fetish and/or tickling picture (spread that out over time and figure in the future). Thats pretty good and I don't know what people are complaining about when they say my work is out of balance. That's just an attempt to gain leverage to deny me and they're using the fact, the good fact, that I am the only person actively sharing in full, to emphasis that.

I don't feel baring me from getting a forum because this is a factor (and only one factor) and it's not 100% fetish 100% percent of the time is the right thing to do. Nor is judging me. To do so only serves to show how intolerate some of you must be. The truth is, I've been the most forthcoming artist on this site. I don't just share one aspect of my art with you, I share it ALL.

My fanbase understands this and appriciates what I bring to the table, no matter what it is. If anyone thinks that is not so simply because this is a fetish website, then you're grossly underestimating the people that come here and assuming their likes and dislikes and what they will and will not tolerate. They are not just fetishists, they are regular people with regular pursuals. That does not magically change when they log on here.

The fact I bring something unique to the table and have been since 2002 (2001 technically), is a good thing for this site and my presense adds that flare and diversity. I am not a threat to any of you or this site or it's theme, and I actively participate in it.

This isn't about who I am or what I feel (or to what degree I feel it), but what I offer you. No one can say I haven't been generous in my willingness to draw tickling material. It is something I enjoy doing. To compare me to anyone else and their ratio would not be fair. I am me and they are they. What should satisfy you is that I draw good pictures and that I include this fetish in many of my projects all the time. (the below attachments are just four examples of things I've drawn).

This isn't about quality, this isn't about quantity, this is about having earned the same recognition, over the years, as everyone else has and being just as deserving as anyone else of a forum. Plus, I'm an active member site-wide. I am not a recluse artist who only participates when theres something to share. Many of you chat with me in private, and many of you have seen me post in the general discussions and so forth over the years. I am one of the ingredients of this website whether you want to admit it or not, and I have been for years. Not days, not months, solid years. :)

And yes, forum politics are cliques are a joke. But I guess thats what makes the wheels turn. :)

As for the forum, again, giving me a place to sort my things so fans and such can see them all in one place is not a bad thing, and no one could honestly argue that it is.

The only people that would attempt to are those that have it in for me in one way or another, and I don't see why they should be deciding this, and behind my back, no less when the support is there and people see it now and all the time.

[meangry]

Which is why I am thinking is that nothing makes sense as to why you have not gotten one yet.

[Celtic_Emperor]

Which is why I am thinking is that nothing makes sense as to why you have not gotten one yet.


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EDIT:

A poll has been created on this matter:

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?p=910064#post910064

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I know why (and I'll repeat it again). Myriads admitted to me that some artists went to him (in private of course for their own security), and complained/petitioned against me when they saw this thread come up and that people were liking the idea and supporting it with a vote of confidence.

I know whomever they are, they don't represent the full force of our artists or the bulk, but a faction thereof. If I had to guess, I'm thinking its some of the most disgruntled ones. I'm fairly certain I can narrow it down if I had to, but this isn't a witch hunt for me.

Its safe to same some of our most prominent artists are above such behavior. They don't need/want to come after me.

It would really have to be people who have a grudge and just can't let it go. They see denying me the forum as some sort of payback or revenge. It has to be vindictive in nature, otherwise how, as you agree, can you logically dismiss or deny me a forum? It's not the forum they are against, its me. The forum is just the way to get to me.

This decision isn't up to some disgruntled artists, its up to Myriads and it's up to you guys, rightfully. With whatever they said, they swayed his opinion in their direction, but it's not too late for a turnaround.

He also admitted in the same conversation that he would have given me the forum and was about to. Though I'm still speculating thats true, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

If they threatened to leave/strike/whatever if he gave me the forum, then it makes perfect sense why he's been so ambiguous with me, us, and this situation. It also explains why this situation hasn't improved or gotten any better dispite the fact everyone is being peaceful and putting on a perfectly sensible show of support or interest.

There is nothing wrong here, and aside from my emotional state and long posts, which is/are also calm, theres no fire or argumentive doings going on here.

Sooner or later this thread will have to be taken seriously.

Win or lose, I can't walk away from this situation entirely until it has closure. And it's not about being too proud to, or too arrogant. It's about it being uncertain and vague. I don't like it when I'm in a situation that is beyond me and I can't find myself a resolution.

You guys are my resolution. You're the ones who are either going to make this happen or not.

[Mr. Danger]

I'm sorry, but I've been reading this and I can't believe how over-dramatised it has become. Some of the stuff that's been posted has been really ridiculous, internet drama to the worst degree. If some artists don't want you to have a forum because you don't post enough tickling art or because they think you're an asshole or whatever, it really isn't worth writing four pages over it. I honestly don't think a poll will solve anything either, as it's up to the admin if s/he wants to make another forum or not.

Sorry if this is a rant, it's been a long night. :zzzzz:

[Celtic_Emperor]

That is true, it is their decision. We must remember that it can be influenced and always is all the time. Whether its here with this, or with something else. This is a community and whether you like it or not thats how it works. People suggest something, some people don't like it, the mod considers the pros and cons, and make a decision.

This is normal actually. Its how ideas spring forth.

You don't think a poll will solve anything, yet you voted against me. You want your opinion to count just as much as the next guy. You're no different.

So forgive me if what you said is a bit contradictive.

[Mr. Danger]

No, I just voted No because I didn't think anybody else would and I wanted to be different. :P I don't really have any strong feelings either way.

Sorry if I'm acting like an ass, I just wanted to rant on internet drama. :bunny:

[m_g_n]

i believe celtic emp.
should get his archive!
he is an great artist and i think he
deserves it!!
M.G.N :cool:

[Celtic_Emperor]

@ Mr. Danger:

Very well. :)


@ m_g_n:

Thanks again. :)

[scavenger]

Because I do not check this forum that often (mostly I'm at the Tickletheater) I've only discovered the latest evolution in this threat just now.

This is a terrible situation. I mean, artists turning on one another. It always has been my opinion that artists should band together and support each other. I'm confused, what can those people possible gain by hindering you?

Recently, I was given an archive here and I didn't really asked for it. I think it would be only natural that you would get your own archive here. You really deserve it to have one, Celtic Emperor. This was my opinion at the start of this thread and it still is now.

[Celtic_Emperor]

Because I do not check this forum that often (mostly I'm at the Tickletheater) I've only discovered the latest evolution in this threat just now.

This is a terrible situation. I mean, artists turning on one another. It always has been my opinion that artists should band together and support each other. I'm confused, what can those people possible gain by hindering you?

Recently, I was given an archive here and I didn't really asked for it. I think it would be only natural that you would get your own archive here. You really deserve it to have one, Celtic Emperor. This was my opinion at the start of this thread and it still is now.

Thank you. :)

You're right, what could they possible gain by hindering me. We should be together, and even if they had some personal animosity toward me, they should have put it aside realizing that the forum itself was not bad and their trying to deny it to me was very selfish.

Even if it would only be natural, as you say, it has been made not to be.

But thats for the support anyway. Theres a poll on this matter that I linked to in the above post, and the numbers favor me, but the mods have given no word as to whether or not the poll matters.

You'll be wise to note that it was stated that a decision was already made, and yet, that decision has not been spoken or told to anyone. Now either the staff is aprehensive to tell us, or they themselves have changed their minds.

Its wishful thinking at best, but I would prefer complete honesty and a final answer at this point over getting the forum, actually. The fact they will not give a yes or no answer to us and are vague about the matter is of particular concern. I can only hope the complaints by those artists have nothing to do with this as well.

[Michael514]

Celtic_Emperor gets my VOTE for his own archive.

[00feather]

I just spend half an hour reading this so I think I can bump this ancient thread without getting flamed. I don't know what the current situation on this matter is but this is scandalous. Who is so weak that they would boycot another artist just because he is better than you. If voting is still on Celtic Emperor got my vote.