View Full Version : Our Most Intense Video Ever Made !!!
FT MANAGER
11-22-2005, 01:30 PM
Since 4 years of tickling videos production we have never pushed a girl to their limits like this before !
In this shoot we really gave her a real pain by tickle torture because Camille was really pushed beyond what she could support.
We really don't know if you will like this but...this is a true, a pure tickle torture.
Tickling can be a game, tickling can be sensual, tickling can be all you want but sometimes, tickling can be a real pain.
Enjoy at:
www.frenchtickling.com
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CamilleFree (http://www.frenchtickling.com/clip/CamilleFree4.wmv)
Sunday_10pm
11-22-2005, 06:09 PM
Congratulations! You have just made the most extreme tickling video ever. Gotta say I thought I'd like it but it's just nasty. Now I know why noone's ever done this before.
MrMacphisto
11-22-2005, 06:31 PM
I thought it was great, personally. Then again, I am a bit of a sadist... :firedevil
Anyway, Camille is definitely my favorite of your models, and that clip was one of the best I've seen. It had some very genuine laughter.... Thanks so much!
TKL_M28_LI_NY
11-22-2005, 06:36 PM
That was a little too intense at the end. I mean, I like the extreme, the begging and all, but that was real torture that she would have done anything to escape. I mean, I like the torture...but the kind that they smile about after.
Sunday_10pm
11-22-2005, 06:57 PM
Doesn't it make you wonder what kind of person you must be to enjoy that? I mean, what do you think when you look at her cute little happy face in the picture?
MrMacphisto
11-22-2005, 07:02 PM
Oh don't start with that human rights crap. For all you know, she might have just been acting.
Sunday_10pm
11-22-2005, 07:14 PM
Oh don't start with that human rights crap. For all you know, she might have just been acting.
lol, did i make you feel dirty?
If that's what you want to do to women, you'll never be loved. Don't worry I'll leave you to enjoi your torture-porn!
Drago69
11-22-2005, 07:18 PM
Loved it. Thanks a lot. :D
If that's what you want to do to women, you'll never be loved. Don't worry I'll leave you to enjoi your torture-porn!
What people enjoy, and what they actually do are completely different things. I personally love this kind of stuff, but would never even think of doing anything remotely close to it.
And like he Macphisto said, there is always the possibility that she was acting a bit near the end - but it doesn't look too likely; or maybe it was the best damn acting ever. ;)
MrMacphisto
11-22-2005, 07:26 PM
lol, did i make you feel dirty?
If that's what you want to do to women, you'll never be loved. Don't worry I'll leave you to enjoi your torture-porn!
Sunday, what aggravates me is when people exaggerate a clip's risk of illegality. I really hope that FT continues to make clips like these (especially with Camille), but the more you say ridiculous things like "a human rights violation caught on tape," the more you discourage them for no good reason.
Trust me, tickle torture is tame compared to the kinds of clips you can get on the internet. This is nothing like true torture... not that I'd know anything about that from personal experience.
Sunday_10pm
11-22-2005, 07:42 PM
ok i've streamlined it for you
wendynpeter
11-22-2005, 08:04 PM
I don't speak french, but the one time in the clip where it was clear to me that she demanded that the scene stop, they stopped. Instantly (and rightly so). The fact that the scene continued in a different setting indicates to me that something further was negotiated. I might be missing something in the dialog at the end, though. Those of you who know my posts know that if I thought it was really nonconsensual, I'd definitely say so.
barefeetarebest
11-22-2005, 08:08 PM
all i can say about that is:
fabulous!
amazing!
intense!
awesome!
wild!
torturous!
dark!
extreme!
edgy!
BRAVO!
BrokNBstUvm
11-22-2005, 08:23 PM
I would definitely say this was an intense session. As far as my preference goes, this is the kind of clip I prefer, although I will say that she screamed and hooted and yelped too much for me to actually purchase it.
The NC video that FootParadise did a few years back was nice too, but I don't think the tickling "tickled" the model they had as much as it maybe "annoyed" her. She bitched and complained more often than she laughed throughout the previews I saw of that one, also keeping me from purchasing.
As far as the topic here of "cruelty" is concerned, these models know full and well what they're in for when they sign on. You folks that see "intense", non-playful clips like these and pass judgement on us that enjoy them should go and watch some Insex.com clips. THEN come back and call us inhuman...or whatever, because see, I consider myself absolutely sadistic and evil when it comes down to some girl that I meet letting me have my tickling way with her....I've went way over the line many times with it, and I loved every minute of it.
but that Insex stuff? Hail no. You couldn't PAY me to do that to a lady, even if I hated her.
tkl-pen
11-22-2005, 08:47 PM
Certainly on the right track - but it put me right off when the girl says stop (arrette) and the tickler pulls back and stands down - I didn't even bother going any further - what kind of tickle torture is that?
Ayla ny
11-22-2005, 09:04 PM
I’m sorry… but while I love a knight in shinning armor… I have to admit that I just loved this clip. I saw it stop once when she absolutely demanded it and that was enough for me!
get her! and keep up the great work!
MikeMike
11-22-2005, 10:08 PM
I thought that was an excellent clip. I would have preferred it if you were a bit more clinical in your approach, and perhaps were able to find some way of preventing her from flopping about, but otherwise very well done.
CaptainQuantum
11-22-2005, 10:09 PM
The NC video that FootParadise did a few years back was nice too, but I don't think the tickling "tickled" the model they had as much as it maybe "annoyed" her. She bitched and complained more often than she laughed throughout the previews I saw of that one, also keeping me from purchasing.
I own the FootParadise NC video, and while it made me pretty uncomfortable watching it the first time, the more you watch it you pick up on little things and you know it was staged. I think the "call girl" in that video was an actress, and a very good one. She does laugh a lot though. Very cute and very ticklish.
wendynpeter
11-22-2005, 10:36 PM
Certainly on the right track - but it put me right off when the girl says stop (arrette) and the tickler pulls back and stands down - I didn't even bother going any further - what kind of tickle torture is that?
Pen, you definitely have your opinion about this. All I'll say is that women are not hunks of meat for others to abuse. That woman said stop and she meant it, and so the tickler was OBLIGED to stop. As for the "they know what they're getting into when they sign on" argument -- let me clear this up once and for all. You cannot contract your rights away. For example, you can't sign a contract that you'll be someone's slave. That's not a legal or binding contract. SO even if you sign a contract saying you'll submit to tickle torture, if you say "stop" in the middle, that still means stop. And if the person doesn't stop, that's battery. It's just that simple. Ask any attorney. So we are legally and morally bound to respect people's limits.
MÿTicklingStudios
11-22-2005, 11:03 PM
Good stuff FT, that clip is almost as intense as some of mine! ;)
asutickler
11-22-2005, 11:30 PM
As for the "they know what they're getting into when they sign on" argument -- let me clear this up once and for all. You cannot contract your rights away. For example, you can't sign a contract that you'll be someone's slave. That's not a legal or binding contract. SO even if you sign a contract saying you'll submit to tickle torture, if you say "stop" in the middle, that still means stop. And if the person doesn't stop, that's battery. It's just that simple. Ask any attorney. So we are legally and morally bound to respect people's limits.
Very well said, and absolutely correct.
Thanks for saving me the trouble...
Jeffy
11-23-2005, 12:48 AM
Almost everyone says stop. There are people that say stop 15 seconds into a clip. 90% of the clips out there people say stop as soon as they are tickled for more then 10 seconds. If everyone did it your way, there wouldnt be any tickling vids.
jim66e
11-23-2005, 01:33 AM
Almost everyone says stop. There are people that say stop 15 seconds into a clip. 90% of the clips out there people say stop as soon as they are tickled for more then 10 seconds. If everyone did it your way, there wouldnt be any tickling vids.
There is a difference between stoping whenever person says and using a safe word. A safe word is used for safety and should be honored instantly. Ignoring a safe word and going beyond it betrays the trust of the model. If she was using a safe word, its important for the tickler to stop.
GuldenVleugel
11-23-2005, 08:06 AM
When tickling a 'lee it's important to distinct the real cries for stop and the instinctual ones. Sometimes screaming for stop can be consentual.
CaptainQuantum
11-23-2005, 08:30 AM
In the last parts of the clip, I guess no one knows if she was saying the safeword unless they speak French.
But I wanted to see what Insex.com was about from that previous post, so I looked them up. The company has been sold, and the new company is called hardtied.com. This is what it said at the new owner's website:
Where we differ from Insex, is we do not like models to be sad or unhappy -- we adhere to our SHOOT SAFETY CHECKLIST for all our shoots. We make sure it's all good kinky orgasmic fun for everyone. No one gets hurt, and every model leaves with a smile on her face!
So it sounds like safety wasn't a priority with the previous owners? Pretty dangerous, and pretty stupid if that's the case.
GuldenVleugel
11-23-2005, 09:05 AM
In the last parts of the clip, I guess no one knows if she was saying the safeword unless they speak French.
My French sucks, but I'm positive she screamed stuff like: stop it stop it, goddamnit stop it! But nonetheless I think it remains consentual. It's as intense as Lea of ticklehorror.
As for Insex. I never liked those, but they neither were fully into tickling.
Jeffy
11-23-2005, 09:31 AM
I don't speak french, but the one time in the clip where it was clear to me that she demanded that the scene stop, they stopped. Instantly (and rightly so). The fact that the scene continued in a different setting indicates to me that something further was negotiated. I might be missing something in the dialog at the end, though. Those of you who know my posts know that if I thought it was really nonconsensual, I'd definitely say so.
I cant bel;ieve you peter! This clip in the end was JUST as nonconsensual as anything that South East Asian Tickling guy puts out. In the end she clearly didn't want it any more and DEMANDED that it stopped. She was screaming STOP for sure. Whether it was "stop you fucking asshole" or "stop you son of a bitch" or "stop dont fucking touch me" she CLEARLY wanted it to end. Yes they stopped at her pits when she asked, but in the end at her feet she CLEARLY wanted it to end very badly and they didnt. Her violent screams should be clear indication of that. You have to be a total idiot to see to not see that she wasnt enjoying it at the end and demmanded that it stope but it didnt.
So I guess according to you it is ok if they do those kind of thing in France, but not ok if they do them in Asia? Before I respected what you had to say as someone stating their oppinion and everyone has a right to their oppinion. But now I see what you have to say on the subject is total garbage, and because of your CLEAR double standard, your oppinion on this subject doesnt count for shit anymore. I knew you had something against South East Asia Tickling and this proves it.
wendynpeter
11-23-2005, 10:36 AM
Jeffy,
The difference is that in the Frenchtickling clip, she says "stop" and they do. The set changes, and everyone's back at it. But it's clear that they use safewords at Frenchtickling. I have no problem with intense action. And I'm sure they were going for the edge. Had I NOT seen a safeword used successfully, I'd have blasted Frenchtickling in the same way, I assure you.
Also, it's not clear you know how a safeword works. Let's use the clip as an example. It could be that they didn't have a safeword arranged from the outset, so when she screamed "stop," they took that as her safeword. But a safeword usually isn't 'stop,' or 'quit.' It's usually a word that would never come up, so it can't be confused with words used by the bottom to intensify things. The most common safeword is 'Red.' I've played with bottoms who used 'cantaloupe.' It depends on the bottom. But if you are setting up a safeword, you're right -- 'stop' is a bad choice because bottoms do say stop when they are playing.
If you haven't set up a safeword beforehand (and an experienced bottom will NEVER proceed without a pre-set safeword) then it's really more about watching body language and listening to voice tone. If a bottom is cursing, screaming, spitting, demanding and has clearly stopped being in the scene mentally, it doesn't matter what the fuck she's saying, she wants out (and you'd better respect that, or it could be trouble).
le chatouilleur
11-23-2005, 10:41 AM
I really think at the end of the clip the girl is faking because she just shouts very loud but not laughing and says stop now stop !
Personally I don't find that very funny and exiting to watch when it becomes too hard, the girl don't laugh anymore.
The tickling must be a torture but not like that.
sammyanderton
11-23-2005, 12:30 PM
hm, I can´t download this debated clip? I have always wondered about why the girls getting tickled in movies never gets sweaty? the few girls I have tickled (for more than 10 min) have been sweating like they were running the marathon , I mean it is straining and pretty hard work getting tickled and if the tickling is going on for 30min-1hour, I reckon it should produce at least one drop of sweat. too me that is a bit of a fake alarm.
Jeffy
11-23-2005, 12:55 PM
Jeffy,
The difference is that in the Frenchtickling clip, she says "stop" and they do. The set changes, and everyone's back at it. But it's clear that they use safewords at Frenchtickling. I have no problem with intense action. And I'm sure they were going for the edge. Had I NOT seen a safeword used successfully, I'd have blasted Frenchtickling in the same way, I assure you.
Also, it's not clear you know how a safeword works. Let's use the clip as an example. It could be that they didn't have a safeword arranged from the outset, so when she screamed "stop," they took that as her safeword. But a safeword usually isn't 'stop,' or 'quit.' It's usually a word that would never come up, so it can't be confused with words used by the bottom to intensify things. The most common safeword is 'Red.' I've played with bottoms who used 'cantaloupe.' It depends on the bottom. But if you are setting up a safeword, you're right -- 'stop' is a bad choice because bottoms do say stop when they are playing.
If you haven't set up a safeword beforehand (and an experienced bottom will NEVER proceed without a pre-set safeword) then it's really more about watching body language and listening to voice tone. If a bottom is cursing, screaming, spitting, demanding and has clearly stopped being in the scene mentally, it doesn't matter what the fuck she's saying, she wants out (and you'd better respect that, or it could be trouble).
Peter they stopped at that one point YES. But at the END of the clip they DIDNT stop. Rewatch the clip. at the end of this clip the girl is clearly saying the same word she said before when she wanted them to stop. In FACT she is saying it much louder with moch more agression, and clearly wants it to stop even MORE now but they didnt. Watch the end of this clip it is brutal! What part of this are you missing here? Are you blind?
So what is the difference if someone says "pock you" in Filipino or whatever it is, or "stop touching me right now you sick fucking bastard" in french? are you trying to tell me that asian girls are the only girls that should be respected? Because if you can't see that the END of this French tickling clip, and I mean "the end" Quit talking about the middle of the clip where they stop. Can you do that Peter? Do you know what the word end means Peter? Its means the final part. The last. Not the middle. So if you can Peter, i know it might be a little diffucult for you Peter but. if you can look at the LAST part of this clip. and then tell me that it was concensual and that she wasn NOT screaming in rage for them to stop, and that she wasnt saying the exact same word that she was saying before she wanted them to stop, and that she was enjoying it, if you can tell me that by watching the LAST part of thios clip then you must be daft!
It's clear you are possing a double standard here. It is ok for some people to make these kind of clips and not ok for others. You can't have it both ways.
wendynpeter
11-23-2005, 01:26 PM
It's clear you are possing a double standard here. It is ok for some people to make these kind of clips and not ok for others. You can't have it both ways.
Jeffy, I see your point and why you think I'm applying a double standard. Believe it or not, I try to give the benefit of the doubt in cases where I don't have perfect knowledge.
In the case of TTSEA, they claim in writing to ignore safewords. Their videos show no evidence to the contrary.
In the case of Frenchtickling, their vid clip demonstrates that they do respect safewords. After they stopped the first time, the set changed and they restarted, which gives me the clear impression that the model agreed to go forward. Given that they demonstrated that they do respect safewords, I can only assume that another safeword was agreed upon, and the model didn't use it. I could be wrong, of course.
Where *I* draw my line is that I want to see evidence that safe play is occuring. It can be intense or even slightly out of control, but as long as I know that a safeword will be respected, that's what I care about.
When I called TTSEA on the fact that they ignored a safeword, they admitted that they did, and defended it. That's where the difference lies. If you still don't see it, let me know. I'll be happy to consider it further.
One more point. This conversation goes so much better, is more calm and articulate, and is far more interesting on TMF than similar ones over at Tickle Theater. I think there's a more mature crowd over here that has more life experience to draw upon. It's hard to get kids young enough to be your own kids to see to be civil when you suggest that they might be wrong. LOL Thanks to the folks at TMF who are mature enough to have some perspective beyond what they want/need to believe.
-P
MÿTicklingStudios
11-23-2005, 01:41 PM
When I called TTSEA on the fact that they ignored a safeword, they admitted that they did...
Refresh me. Where?
isabeau
11-23-2005, 01:45 PM
all this arguing back and forth is sure giving free publicity to these clips. its rather amusing to me...
isabeau
SmallMartin
11-23-2005, 01:46 PM
I hate to say it but this is a completely silly discussion. If you don't like it - just don't watch it. If it is too hard for you - don't watch it. It's the same like with tickling into peeing: any time such a thread appears, immediately tens of haters start writing their reactions. Why? Who cares about haters?
I admit I love my wife. When I tickle her sometimes she screams similar to the model in this clip ( she doesn't get paid for it though ...). When we finish, I always ask her "did you like it?" and the answer is always "yes but it was really horrible". She is still with me ... If the model really had hated it so much the video would probably not have been out. Just my opinion.
This is the third or fourth time she has been filmed there. She can't hate them too much and I am sure they have their arrangements. She will quite likely be back again at some point - she seems a very popular model.
wendynpeter
11-23-2005, 03:36 PM
This is the third or fourth time she has been filmed there. She can't hate them too much and I am sure they have their arrangements. She will quite likely be back again at some point - she seems a very popular model.
That in itself would lead one to believe she is OK with what's happening. Again, it's the difference between a situation in which safewords are ignored (especially bad if that's a marketing strategy), versus a situation in which safewords are respected.
wendynpeter
11-23-2005, 03:41 PM
I hate to say it but this is a completely silly discussion. If you don't like it - just don't watch it. If it is too hard for you - don't watch it. It's the same like with tickling into peeing: any time such a thread appears, immediately tens of haters start writing their reactions. Why? Who cares about haters?
If someone's really being abused, the community should care.
I admit I love my wife.
Jesus, I would hope so...LOL
When I tickle her sometimes she screams similar to the model in this clip ( she doesn't get paid for it though ...). When we finish, I always ask her "did you like it?" and the answer is always "yes but it was really horrible".
COMPLETELY different thing, my friend.
wendynpeter
11-23-2005, 03:42 PM
Refresh me. Where?
Read your own sig line. Duh.
tickle her
11-23-2005, 04:34 PM
At the end she was tapping out like a wrestler! Did anybodyelse see it! By the way isnt Camille in her 20's!
leafstk
11-23-2005, 04:36 PM
all this arguing back and forth is sure giving free publicity to these clips. its rather amusing to me...
isabeau
LOL, I agree totally :D
isabeau
11-23-2005, 04:41 PM
the thing is this. i watched the preview clip. i could see she is extremely ticklish, but it seemed to me when she said stop that one time he did. so i dont see the controversy. maybe i need to see the whole thing, but that aint happening. o well...... she is quite cute also.
isabeau
leafstk
11-23-2005, 05:02 PM
Same here, Isabeau ;) At one point her hands were free, so if she really wanted to, she could have boxed his ears in, lol :D And yes, she is a cutie :woot:
some1somewhere
11-23-2005, 06:52 PM
My biggest concern in clips like this, even if it was known before hand that it would be a tickling "torture," in the sense that it is used here, is that we might not ever see this great ticklee again as she might no longer enjoy it and might be afraid of being tickled. How many super ticklish girls do you know that hate to be tickled because someone in their past tortured them a little too much? I mean one person can't control themselves and the rest of us are deprived of a beautiful ticklee. I am not saying that this is the case in this clip, but I have seen some clips become final clips for the ticklee because it went too far, even if it was predetermined that it would very far along that road.
tkl-pen
11-23-2005, 07:19 PM
Here's another take on it - if we were to stop tickling the moment a ticklee said "no" or "stop", then why are we all here - every ticklee I have ever seen pleads "no" or "stop" and fights and struggles - and if a ticklee in a video is contracted for 30 or 60 or 90 minutes of tickling, or tickle torture, then she should get that and be paid accordingly - tickling will stop when her time is finished.
And what is tickle torture - or any kind of torture anyway - when the victim, or in our case the ticklee, is in charge. There is no logic in that. She gives up control as contracted for whatever amount of time. She agrees to and makes whatever agreement she does, under whatever conditions she is okay with, and then earns her money by submitting herself as she has agreed. Of course, during that time, she has agreed that the tickler will be in charge and not her.
Peter, and others, are quite correct in saying that the ticklee should have a choice - and if she chooses to endure whatever amount of tickle torture she agrees to without a safe word or an out, then she has made a choice. And who are we to second guess her decision, a choice and a decision she has made. It is her right to make that choice - not ours.
OBleedingMe
11-23-2005, 11:01 PM
In the last parts of the clip, I guess no one knows if she was saying the safeword unless they speak French.
But I wanted to see what Insex.com was about from that previous post, so I looked them up. The company has been sold, and the new company is called hardtied.com. This is what it said at the new owner's website:
Where we differ from Insex, is we do not like models to be sad or unhappy -- we adhere to our SHOOT SAFETY CHECKLIST for all our shoots. We make sure it's all good kinky orgasmic fun for everyone. No one gets hurt, and every model leaves with a smile on her face!
So it sounds like safety wasn't a priority with the previous owners? Pretty dangerous, and pretty stupid if that's the case.
As a long-time meber of Insex.com (RIP), I feel I must respond to this thread.
It is quite evident that many of you have absolutely no concept of how the BDSM world works. Insex, like my other quality BDSM sites out there, are being forcibly SHOUT DOWN by the United States government. That is the ONLY reason Insex shut down.
If you go to Insex's new site, hardtied.com, you'll see that they are continuing their endeaver, only they've changed the spin on things. The new laws in place force BDSM sites to strip their content down. They put an emphasis on orgasms and "happy" models because they don't want to be a target for persecution. Anything mentioning the BDSM lifestyle could get them in hot water. I guess this makes makes the religious right happy. They feel they're "cleansing" the internet of what they perceive as "filth" when, in reality, all they're doing is oppressing an entire culture of people of whom they do not understand.
Having been a member of Insex.com for five years, I can tell you that every girl on that site was treated perfectly well. There was always a safeword in play, and when the model used it, it was respected. They stopped the scene right then and there (they sometimes had live feeds) and moved onto the next segment. Additionally, every new model that came to Insex was put through a "Test" session. They were also called "Canagirls" sessions. This was a basic introductionary session that included an interview with the model and LIGHT BDSM to feel out the model's limits, what they enjoyed, what they didn't. The models were also asked to fill out an online questionaire that outlined what S&M experience they had, what kind of edge play enjoyed, what they were curious about, and what their limits were. The models ranged from curious college girls to seasoned BDSM models. If the model liked this "Test" session, they would return for a more in-depth Insex session. If not, you never saw them again. The model's decision to return for a harder session was completely up to her.
Now, I know there are many of you on this forum that do not understand and outright reject the BDSM lifestyle. Many of you cannot understand how a woman or man can enjoy giving/receiving pain. I cannot explain that to you. It's like trying to figure out why one enjoys tying up a person and tickle torturing them (also another aspect of BDSM, whether you like it or not). As long as everything is safe, sane and consensual, we should all respect one another's interests.
For the ladies on the forum, keep in mind that Insex was an equal opportunity employer. Their sister site, InsexM.com, was a Femdom site. In fact, there are many Femdom sites that are just as hard as the Maledom sites out there. So please, don't cry wolf and claim that women are the only subs in the BDSM genre. Unfortunately, it seems both of these lifestyle websites are being hit equally as hard when it comes to these new laws governing our sexuality. :disgust:
zacutiebrat
11-23-2005, 11:18 PM
I have to say that i enjoyed the beginning that was not bad but you went way to damn far at the end i despise and hate assholes that don't know when to stop. You know what i think if you can't take what you dish out then don't .................. dish out you went to damn far. I witnessed a gang tickling that went so bad you think what you did was torture believe me what i witnessed as a child makes what you did to poor Camille look like peanuts but i have to say id love to see you get some see how you would like being tortured as you tortured her. The girl i witnessed being tickled was in her teens also she was tickled by 8 guys they did this to her all day like you they did not know when to stop pushed her way beyong her limits although im sure Camille did not end up in hospital like this girl did. I like and enjoy tickling video clips but when ................. go too far it pisses me off. It's people like that who make others end up hating tickling for ever.
thats what i think
people who liked this said was not that bad maybe she was acting hum ok lets see you strapped down and tickled beyond your limits till your crying and cursing etc.
...............
zacutiebrat
zacutiebrat
11-23-2005, 11:47 PM
I strongly agree with Wendynpeter that ..................went to damn far.
zacutiebrat
11-23-2005, 11:53 PM
For those of you who say they suck at french i can tell you her cries were not fakeeeee she was fed up like i would have been i mean enough is enough you want your rocks getting off go buy yourself a freaking porn video or find yourself a whore. Oh and by the way that's what she was calling him. She was telling him stop Tom you whore putin in french means whore cunt whatever you like.
CaptainQuantum
11-24-2005, 12:44 AM
Well I've never been involved in a situation that needed a safeword personally. But from what I understand about how this works, the "victim" can say STOP YOU @#$% (insert any expletives you wish here) until she's blue in the face, but if she REALLY wants it to stop, she will say the safeword. Its not the same thing. That's only my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong.
We don't know what the safeword was, so we don't know if she was saying it. She does indeed appear to be suffering toward the end, but screaming bloody murder and saying the safeword are not the same thing, as far as I understand. If she said the safeword and he didn't stop, then the ler violated their agreement and her trust to put herself in a very vulnerable situation, but we don't know if she did.
MrMacphisto
11-24-2005, 12:50 AM
My biggest concern in clips like this, even if it was known before hand that it would be a tickling "torture," in the sense that it is used here, is that we might not ever see this great ticklee again as she might no longer enjoy it and might be afraid of being tickled. How many super ticklish girls do you know that hate to be tickled because someone in their past tortured them a little too much? I mean one person can't control themselves and the rest of us are deprived of a beautiful ticklee. I am not saying that this is the case in this clip, but I have seen some clips become final clips for the ticklee because it went too far, even if it was predetermined that it would very far along that road.
Now this guy has a valid point. I agree that the nature of this clip has risked Camille not agreeing to another clip, which would be a damn shame. I still love the clip, but I hope that the experience has not affected her willingness to do more clips....
asutickler
11-24-2005, 01:08 AM
It is quite evident that many of you have absolutely no concept of how the BDSM world works. Insex, like my other quality BDSM sites out there, are being forcibly SHOUT DOWN by the United States government. That is the ONLY reason Insex shut down.
If they showed clips of people being tortured, and didn't demonstrate in any way that it was fake and/or consensual, then good for the government and good riddance to "Insex.com."
MrMacphisto
11-24-2005, 01:14 AM
That's strange, I thought the government was in favor of torture. Cheney certainly is...
franky42
11-24-2005, 04:27 AM
Salut FT, si une fois je me suis posé des questions sur la véracité des rires, là ça déchire! Bon boulot mon gars!
asutickler
11-24-2005, 05:01 AM
That's strange, I thought the government was in favor of torture. Cheney certainly is...
Apparently not when he's not the one in charge of it...
Now hush... Before folks realize that we've emerged from the P&R Forum and come to lynch us! :jester:
Frenchtickling is one site where I retain a membership for months at a time rather than for one month and then a long break. This is because their material is plentiful and of high quality. I have never seen anything that has led me to believe that they would actually abuse any girl - on the contrary, their models seem to return again and again and have a good relationship with the FT's.
When I compare her present video with the previous ones, I ask myself> did she get tickled more or did she scream and perform more?
XjuggaloX
11-24-2005, 05:44 PM
Think about this... If it was that bad and unbearable then why the hell would she let them untie her and retie her in a different position if the tickling was way too much... Use your brains people..............
MikeMike
11-24-2005, 06:28 PM
I think we all agree that the best course of action is for everyone to buy this clip, and simply make their own decision.
In fact, going forward, I will buy every clip where this controversy arises.
tkl-pen
11-24-2005, 07:16 PM
And where are all the arguments we saw about the abuse and oppression of women, and they only do it because the money, and the rest of the bleeding heart excuses you lefties came out with on another tickle torture video only a few weeks ago?
tkl-pen
11-24-2005, 07:53 PM
Here's a response to the fellow who said that the right wing's influence on the government has reduced the bdsm videos we can see - that is wrong, wrong, wrong - it is the left wing's influence, including the bleeding heart liberal movement and its bastard child the feminist movement with their women's rights and dignity crap that started with the hippy movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s that has brought this about - before those elements arose, we could buy pulp fiction magazines with women in peril, spy novels in which female spies get interrogated, detective magazines with pictures of women in bondage and so on - hell, now, thanks to these liberal bleeding hearts I can't even import a bondage video or magazine into Canada because it shows the 'degradation of women' - so the customs officers take them - there's a gay book shop in Vancouver that's even filed suit against Canada Customs because they keep seizing their magazines and books - let us place the blame right where it belongs - on the liberal left and the stupid man-hating bluestockings of the feminist movement!
MrMacphisto
11-25-2005, 12:14 AM
There are liberals AND conservatives that are to blame for censorship. The religious right and the politically correct left are the problem. It's not a one-sided issue. I'm a "leftie", but I still believe that people should be able to watch what they want to, whether it's on TV or on the internet. I'm sure there are right-wingers that feel the same way. This is more a matter of people knowing how to mind their own business than of political persuasion.
MikeMike
11-25-2005, 12:53 AM
Well, without getting bogged down in a political debate, as something of a 'right-winger' myself, and a (now former) Insex member, I do feel that all parties are indeed to blame for what is happening.
I remember PD, the founder and creator of Insex, saying in a chat room, back in 2000, that if Bush was elected, Insex's days would be numbered. I disagreed. I was wrong.
Redmage
11-25-2005, 03:30 PM
lol, did i make you feel dirty?
If that's what you want to do to women, you'll never be loved. Don't worry I'll leave you to enjoi your torture-porn!
Gotta love thoughtless, self-righteous nonsense.
Here's a Sherlock Holmes clue for you: When you see more than one bondage position, it's pretty likely that the model was untied and retied at some point. Therefore, unless firearms were involved, it doesn't seem that it could have been all that terribly non-consensual.
Here's a response to the fellow who said that the right wing's influence on the government has reduced the bdsm videos we can see - that is wrong, wrong, wrong - it is the left wing's influence, including the bleeding heart liberal movement and its bastard child the feminist movement with their women's rights and dignity crap that started with the hippy movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s that has brought this about
I do believe that this is the first time I've ever seen Alberto Gonzales and Ed Meese identified as liberal feminists.
theshire
11-25-2005, 05:44 PM
Jesus Christ, enough with the fucking bleeding hearts! And enough with this political bullshit! Don't anyone dare to politicise this issue. It is totally pointless.
Firstly, as many people have said already, Camille in this clip was UNTIED and tied in a different position. Unless she was forcibly made to do so, that means there was consent.
Secondly, this is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW! For one thing, I'd say it isn't even that intense compared to a lot of other stuff that is out there. But mostly I should point out that pretty much every producer has done a video like this. Remember when TIB tickled Haley Falls to tears - while she was gagged and couldn't possibly utter a safeword? If you're not wearing blinkers, you will. And remember Yaqi's spot on Texas news recently? In it, his female co-tickler (I forget her name) said, 'We use a safeword, but whether we choose to stop or not is another matter'. Then she laughed. IT HAPPENS ALL THE FUCKING TIME! That's why it's called 'tickle torture'. The clue is in the title. Less of the 'humanity', please, and more clips like this for those who are grateful to producers like FrenchTickling for taking the odd risk.
:mad:
isabeau
11-25-2005, 05:47 PM
Jesus Christ, enough with the fucking bleeding hearts! And enough with this political bullshit! Don't anyone dare to politicise this issue. It is totally pointless.
Firstly, as many people have said already, Camille in this clip was UNTIED and tied in a different position. Unless she was forcibly made to do so, that means there was consent.
Secondly, this is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW! For one thing, I'd say it isn't even that intense compared to a lot of other stuff that is out there. But mostly I should point out that pretty much every producer has done a video like this. Remember when TIB tickled Haley Falls to tears - while she was gagged and couldn't possibly utter a safeword? If you're not wearing blinkers, you will. And remember Yaqi's spot on Texas news recently? In it, his female co-tickler (I forget her name) said, 'We use a safeword, but whether we choose to stop or not is another matter'. Then she laughed. IT HAPPENS ALL THE FUCKING TIME! That's why it's called 'tickle torture'. The clue is in the title. Less of the 'humanity', please, and more clips like this for those who are grateful to producers like FrenchTickling for taking the odd risk.
:mad:
i agree one hundred percent this is not the place for politics. and again as i have said before if you dont like this type of clip dont watch it. i watched the preview and personally cant see the big deal. i havent however been able to watch the whole video clip as i cant buy them. but she didnt look much like she was suffering.
isabeau
theshire
11-25-2005, 05:50 PM
I'd like to apologise immediately for my aggressive tone above, but my point still stands.
isabeau
11-25-2005, 06:14 PM
dang your such a gentleman theshire. that was nice.....
isabeau
theshire
11-25-2005, 06:21 PM
A gentleman? I don't know about that. Do gentlemen like to tickle torture tied up ladies until they're hoarse and blue in the face? :tickle: :wavingguy
isabeau
11-25-2005, 06:22 PM
A gentleman? I don't know about that. Do gentlemen like to tickle torture tied up ladies until they're hoarse and blue in the face? :tickle: :wavingguy
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss where have you been all my life???? lol
isabeau :yowzer: :evilha:
theshire
11-25-2005, 06:23 PM
Unfortunately, on the other side of the Atlantic. :dogpile:
Fino ad oggi credo siano stati realizzati qualche migliaio(pressapoco 5000)clips sul solletico e nessuna mai ha avuto quella reazione.Secondo voi è esagerato,solo pubblicita',è un caso isolato!?!?
wendynpeter
11-26-2005, 10:39 AM
This isn't a discussion about politics. It's a discussion over whether our community embraces concepts like safe environments for models in ticking videos, including respect for safewords, etc. This is a very healthy discussion, even if it is a higher level discussion than most on this site. The discussion certainly has political elements and considerations, but that's healthy too.
tkl-pen
11-26-2005, 11:27 AM
Our discussion goes to an ever higher level, Peter, and that is whether women should have the freedom to decide what to do for themselves. When a model or actress is contracted, she knows what is expected of her. If she does not agree with it, then she simply declines the contract.
The woman in this video certainly puts on an act that it is too much for her - how much is real and how much is act I don't know and neither do you - but she did allow herself to be retied in another position and tickled again. So, again she made a decision and allowed it to be carried out.
For us to try to stop that is the same to me as trying to stop an abortion after a woman has decided to have one and is having it carried out - the decision is hers and hers alone. Those against abortion as a practice can scream and yell all they like. The decision is hers.
And so it is with tickling. If you like lame videos like that ridiculous tummy tickling thing you called 'hot-hot-hot' that is your privilege by all means - the woman decided to do that and it is there for you to enjoy as is your right. The women in SEAsia's and France's videos decided to do that and it is there for us to enjoy too - and to some of us they are 'hot'hot'hot' - so let us both appreciate the videos we like and relish the fact that in each case the women decided to provide their videos for us.
Mr. Peepers
11-26-2005, 01:02 PM
My French is rusty too, but I couldn't help but think I was hearing her screaming, "ARRETEZ" or "ARRET" (both mean stop - the first is more commanding, I think).
It's the same kind of thing that happens with many English spoken productions - where the model is screaming, "STOP!STOP!" over and over. At one point, they obviously stopped at her command...and at others didn't - for whatever reason (like a different word being designated as a safe word, perhaps).
She is definitely very ticklish, but it's speculative based on perspective whether or not she meant for them to definitely stop the filming (and other subsequent actions).
Let's face it - she was hired to be tickled for reaction...I'm sure she understood that going into the filming. Let us also face that our fetish straddles the line between consentual and non - which is why most of us enjoy it the way we do. While I would never exersize the depictions in the clip in the manner they were demonstrated, I think most of us agree that we enjoy the "fantasy" of the possibility of truth.
Anyway, I'm no psychologist or linguist (though I'm sure I've inadvertently come off like I'm trying to be) - but I do enjoy the fact that there is an open forum for us to put up ALL flavors of our fetish to share with like-minded individuals...I just wish there wasn't as much conflict (or specifically tempers) flaring on these forums these days. Over the 6 years I've lurked between the MousePad, and TMF, it seems to be getting worse...
ok-I'm off my soapbox now...
Random212
11-26-2005, 01:41 PM
wow, she was screaming like crazy but still great.
wendynpeter
11-26-2005, 02:37 PM
Our discussion goes to an ever higher level, Peter, and that is whether women should have the freedom to decide what to do for themselves. When a model or actress is contracted, she knows what is expected of her. If she does not agree with it, then she simply declines the contract.
You seem to be missing the point. Which is, even if a woman signs a contract, she reserves certain rights implicitly. Now, I understand that you aren't an attorney, but let's just let it suffice to say that you cannot enforce a contract with physical force. So even if the woman demands that things stop in the middle, she always has that right, contract or not. I don't think you have to be an attorney to understand this basic concept. Just think about it.
The woman in this video certainly puts on an act that it is too much for her - how much is real and how much is act I don't know and neither do you - but she did allow herself to be retied in another position and tickled again. So, again she made a decision and allowed it to be carried out.
Exactly right. That's my point. I think you're so used to simply negating everything I say that you forgot my point.
For us to try to stop that is the same to me as trying to stop an abortion after a woman has decided to have one and is having it carried out
The "same"??? I'm so sure you can't possibly mean that, I'm not even going to respond.
If you like lame videos like that ridiculous tummy tickling thing you called 'hot-hot-hot' that is your privilege by all means - the woman decided to do that and it is there for you to enjoy as is your right. The women in SEAsia's and France's videos decided to do that and it is there for us to enjoy too - and to some of us they are 'hot'hot'hot' - so let us both appreciate the videos we like and relish the fact that in each case the women decided to provide their videos for us.
I like lots of different things for lots of different reasons. I'm certainly not a one-trick pony. I can apprecite beautiful faces, bellies, feet, asses -- even underarms. I have topped women in scenes that where totally erotic and sensual, and I've topped women in scenes that were totally intense and physically and mentally challenging. But I've NEVER ignored a safeword, and no one I've ever played with has ever had any reason to be pissed off at me. That's the difference between what TickleFrance is doing and what TTSEA is doing. TTSEA is BOASTING about ignoring safewords. That's just not cool.
tkl-pen
11-26-2005, 02:43 PM
Well okay, Peter, enough of that - I'll just go off and write a new Haruki Saito story - and in part 4 there is no bondage - she's the one bringing it on.
MrMacphisto
11-26-2005, 05:04 PM
I think an appropriate song for this thread has been sung by Duran Duran....
"So, if we sometimes fight, doesn’t mean we got problems
Ain’t always black and white, who cares anyway?
Ooh - doesn’t have to be serious
Ooh - doesn’t have to be serious
(serious)
Doesn’t have to be serious
Oh baby you get so wild, mmm too much understanding
Oh baby you’re such a child, put up with all the tears and cryin’
Don’t worry if you’re confused, we all tend to be sometimes
The whole world is getting used, it’s just the way it is...
Maybe right, oh, but maybe wrong
Doesn’t have to be serious, being hard isn’t being strong
Doesn’t have to be serious, fighting for love, fighting for pain
Ooh doesn’t have to be serious, and if you win, oh what do you gain?
Doesn’t have to be serious.."
wendynpeter
11-26-2005, 10:03 PM
Oh, well. When you put it THAT way ... :zzzzz:
MÿTicklingStudios
11-27-2005, 12:33 AM
Oh, well. When you put it THAT way ... :zzzzz:
If you want to promote discussion on human rights, then do so in a new thread of your own. These threads were never meant for that purpose by their respective authors. Instead you continue to come in here tarnishing the enjoyment of those entering the threads expecting to see free tickling clips and enjoy them without someone trying to force feed them with their own opinions.
Tickle Torture human rights thread here (http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=69412).
toneus79
11-27-2005, 06:04 AM
I have probably bought more stuff from French Tickling than any other producer, mainly because the girls are sweet and pretty, and that the tickling is always intense. So lets have a few facts here.
1) Camille is a model they have worked with before, therefore if she didn't trust them (or hated being tickled) she wouldn't be there.
2) Most lees (self included) will say stop many times, long before we actually want that to happen. Yet if we really want things to stop (such as in a session fairly recently when my leg was losing its feeling through bondage) we can make ourselves and the ler stop. The reason being that being ticklish is as much a self induced state (like drunkeness) as it is something that is forced upon you (i.e. we can all sober up very quickly when suddenly given bad news).
3) Most lees will always be looking for the next session to be that bit more intense, even though at the time we may have felt we barely survived the last one. Thus my guess is that there was a pre arranged agreement between model and producers to go that bit further to the edge during this session. Personally I think Camille was playing up to this.
4) French Tickling always claim their models hate being tickled, which is a rubbish marketing ploy. For example Marianna in that brilliant 26 minute pay per view clip was supposed to hate it when she clearly loved it, and has appeared in more since.
5) No company like French Tickling could ever take the risk of doing anything that was non-consensual, as it would end up in court and be the end of their business.
The reason I won't be buying it is because I like to hear girls laugh not shout.
Cynthia_Massol
11-27-2005, 07:01 AM
My French is rusty too, but I couldn't help but think I was hearing her screaming, "ARRETEZ" or "ARRET" (both mean stop - the first is more commanding, I think).
It's the same kind of thing that happens with many English spoken productions - where the model is screaming, "STOP!STOP!" over and over. At one point, they obviously stopped at her command...and at others didn't - for whatever reason (like a different word being designated as a safe word, perhaps).
She is definitely very ticklish, but it's speculative based on perspective whether or not she meant for them to definitely stop the filming (and other subsequent actions).
Let's face it - she was hired to be tickled for reaction...I'm sure she understood that going into the filming. Let us also face that our fetish straddles the line between consentual and non - which is why most of us enjoy it the way we do. While I would never exersize the depictions in the clip in the manner they were demonstrated, I think most of us agree that we enjoy the "fantasy" of the possibility of truth.
Anyway, I'm no psychologist or linguist (though I'm sure I've inadvertently come off like I'm trying to be) - but I do enjoy the fact that there is an open forum for us to put up ALL flavors of our fetish to share with like-minded individuals...I just wish there wasn't as much conflict (or specifically tempers) flaring on these forums these days. Over the 6 years I've lurked between the MousePad, and TMF, it seems to be getting worse...
ok-I'm off my soapbox now...
As i'm French, i can give you more information :
"Arrête" means "Stop" order, talken to a single person
or can be a more "spontaneous" word than "Arrêtez" ;
"Arrêtez" means "Stop" order, talken to multiple persons (plurial form)
or can also be a polite form of "Arrête".
The two forms are equaly and means the same thing, else,
it's just the French language who uses 2 different conjugation forms
where English language uses only one.
For those who are beginners in French language,
"Arrête" is attached to "TU" and "Arrêtez" is attached to "VOUS".
wendynpeter
11-27-2005, 10:27 AM
I've been a member of this community WAY longer than you, my friend. And you're absolutely right. I'm a prick about human rights. From the level of defensiveness and desperation I'm seeing in your posts (not to mention your private messages), I'm beginning to think you might really have something to worry about.
If you want to promote discussion on human rights, then do so in a new thread of your own. These threads were never meant for that purpose by their respective authors. Instead you continue to come in here tarnishing the enjoyment of those entering the threads expecting to see free tickling clips and enjoy them without someone trying to force feed them with their own opinions.
You seem to think you somehow own a thread because you started it. You didn't even start this thread. I have no intention of posting my comments elsewhere.
MÿTicklingStudios
11-27-2005, 11:04 AM
I've been a member of this community WAY longer than you, my friend. And you're absolutely right. I'm a prick about human rights. From the level of defensiveness and desperation I'm seeing in your posts (not to mention your private messages), I'm beginning to think you might really have something to worry about.
All my books are in order Peter. You bring the wrong discussions into the wrong places.
Redmage
11-27-2005, 11:14 AM
This isn't a discussion about politics. It's a discussion over whether our community embraces concepts like safe environments for models in ticking videos, including respect for safewords, etc.
You keep trying to turn various discussions into that discussion, Peter, but you've probably noticed that you don't get a lot of warm support when you do.
The reason is not because we don't support those things, but rather because we do, and on such a basic level that few of us feel the need to be reminded of it constantly. The point of divergence is over whether or not we believe that models' safety is truly being violated, or that a model has truly gotten more than she was prepared to accept as part of her work.
This is another case where the evidence and the consensus opinion lean toward "no" on those questions.
wendynpeter
11-27-2005, 02:21 PM
You keep trying to turn various discussions into that discussion, Peter, but you've probably noticed that you don't get a lot of warm support when you do.
The reason is not because we don't support those things, but rather because we do, and on such a basic level that few of us feel the need to be reminded of it constantly. The point of divergence is over whether or not we believe that models' safety is truly being violated, or that a model has truly gotten more than she was prepared to accept as part of her work.
This is another case where the evidence and the consensus opinion lean toward "no" on those questions.
Red, I'm in agreement with you. If you look back at my initial post to this thread, it was positive toward FrenchTickling's new vid. It was only after I was accused of applying a double standard that I said anything more. I don't believe the model in this video is being abused at all, and I think FrenchTickling is an ethical, respensible producer.
isabeau
11-27-2005, 02:41 PM
Red, I'm in agreement with you. If you look back at my initial post to this thread, it was positive toward FrenchTickling's new vid. It was only after I was accused of applying a double standard that I said anything more. I don't believe the model in this video is being abused at all, and I think FrenchTickling is an ethical, respensible producer.
i agree i watched the free clip and she didnt seem to be abused to me
isabeau
Redmage
11-27-2005, 03:33 PM
Red, I'm in agreement with you. If you look back at my initial post to this thread, it was positive toward FrenchTickling's new vid. It was only after I was accused of applying a double standard that I said anything more. I don't believe the model in this video is being abused at all, and I think FrenchTickling is an ethical, respensible producer.
Yes, I know Peter. I'm sorry that I didn't make that more clear. I was trying to get across the idea that this subject (abuse of women) seems to crop up often in places where it doesn't need to be. I think that dilutes an important message.
okari
11-27-2005, 06:16 PM
One of the best clips I've ever seen. Thank you! :santasmil
This is the 2nd thread in which I've had to edit for flaming and name calling. I'm sure everyone is capable of debating these topics without resorting to insults. I'd hate to have to lock TWO threads over this! Keep it civil, folks.
freddyy
11-28-2005, 09:20 AM
Definately turned off by the clip..
we will never see her again in a new clip
sucks because she is actually ticklish..
Helena
11-29-2005, 09:05 AM
I have read all the responses to this video, so I would like to share my thoughts. I loved the part of the video where she is just tickled in all different positions. I love that kind of attention. I wish I could let myself go completely and endure tickling like that. The only part of the video I would change to suit my taste is more foot and body tickling at the same time by those two men. I love to scream and laugh and just let out whatever is inside me when I get tickled. I also liked the setting. But I don't like being bruised by a hard floor.
Max_Phoenix
12-16-2005, 02:01 AM
This is the 2nd thread in which I've had to edit for flaming and name calling. I'm sure everyone is capable of debating these topics without resorting to insults. I'd hate to have to lock TWO threads over this! Keep it civil, folks.
Thanks Mimi, one of the reasons why I left ASFT and the tickling community so many years ago was for this very reason. Now that I'm back this thread is causing me to wonder if much has changed at all.
I thought this was the "flame free forums" where we could all come together and share our love for a common thing...tickling.
There are those of us who like tickling and there are those of us who like tickle "torture" in "every" sense of the word. We "all" know this. It's "always" been this way and will "always" continue to be this way.
If we're going to start debating..."again"...to this point then the community may as well divide itself into it's seperate groups, those who like "tickling" and those who like "tickle torture" and go our seperate ways. If we can't accept each other for our difference, beliefs and desires then we are "not" a community, we're simply another group of people who simply want to force our own desires and opinions on each other.
We have something truly special here...and too many of us can't recognize that nor appreciate it. Instead of the arguing, things would be so much easier if we "all" realized that we have a common love but we're still different as individuals and have our own likes and dislikes. Entire nations have fallen because people can't realize and "appreciate" this fact. Just because someone doesn't share your point of view, and that's all that it is...a "point of view" doesn't make them "wrong." Right and wrong don't even enter into it. The sooner we realize this the closer we'll be as a community.
Much love to everyone,
Max
DutchTickler
12-16-2005, 05:12 AM
Where can i purchase this great clip? Can't seem to find it on frenchtickling.com, and also not at their clips4sale store... :mad:
datickler
12-16-2005, 12:59 PM
still pissing and moaning about this clip?.......may be a little intense but im sure she was paid well for her efforts.......let it go people
Tickle Machine
04-12-2006, 02:41 AM
I'm going to call a spade a spade and say that she did say "stop" and they went right to her feet in the clip. Hey the FT Manager's right hand man can't help it if he's a good tickler lol. You notice he hit dead center in those underarms finally she couldn't take it anymore
Tickler_DAE
04-12-2006, 03:59 AM
not my kind of tickling...not at all. :sowrong:
Tickler_DAE
04-12-2006, 04:06 AM
that if the model signs up for that kind of torture then its on them. But i still do not enjoy that kind of torture. power to them if they enjoy it.
ftkl_haha
04-12-2006, 07:36 AM
WOW! Dude, you rock! And Camille is one hell of gal! Great stuff!
~FTKL
soleraker
04-13-2006, 12:00 AM
This is an important piece.....it has divided the tickling community down the middle.....i love sociology....and as far as what i think of the clip, i have stirred emotions....its like nothing i've seen before :xpeepsofa
angelspike
04-14-2006, 04:07 AM
I have to say that I really didn't like that at all. It made me feel terrible...
Did the model quit after that shoot? Because I wouldnt blame her if she did. :sowrong:
falconfan
04-14-2006, 08:50 AM
I will say.This is the 100th post
MikeMike
04-14-2006, 03:06 PM
I think something that everyone can agree on is that we should all buy this clip, and make our own informed decision.
Goofytickle
04-15-2006, 01:46 AM
You guys are idiots. Everyone who says this clip is wrong, you're idiots.
a) these girls are paid to do this. She was told before hand how intense it would be. It probably WAS torture for her. But if she didn't want to be tortured, she wouldn't sign with this company.
b)some people WANT to be pushed to there limits. A lot of people say "oh god, that's so unfair to her" Ever think maybe that's what she wanted to happen? maybe she wanted to be pushed that far?
Again. Perfectly legal. You dumbasses who are like "That's so horrible to her" Well, you should tell HER to get another job.
And for you people attacking others cause they like this. People CANNOT help what they are attracted to. Jesus Christ. You shouldn't judge people who like this, (this being perfectly legal). Nor people who like whips, or burning, or other forums of torture, as long as they are legal and consented apon beforehand. Open your minds a little, you fucknuts.
Ace Riley
04-15-2006, 03:33 PM
That was a little too intense at the end. I mean, I like the extreme, the begging and all, but that was real torture that she would have done anything to escape. I mean, I like the torture...but the kind that they smile about after.
You guys abuse the word torture. Seriously.
Torture that you smile about after? o_O I usually don't post, but it's stupid when I hear comments like this.
tulipangel
04-15-2006, 03:59 PM
Thats the best vid i ever saw! So cool! :xpeepsofa
riker13
04-15-2006, 11:29 PM
And remember Yaqi's spot on Texas news recently? In it, his female co-tickler (I forget her name) said, 'We use a safeword, but whether we choose to stop or not is another matter'. Then she laughed.
:mad:
Is this footage available anywhere?
TCruz
04-16-2006, 01:12 AM
can someone get me a link to the clip?? That would rock my world, i've yet to be offended by ANY tickling thus far, and i've seen some pretty brutal vids, so if you do give me a link, rest assured that i'm not going to be like OH MY GOD HOW CAN YOU WATCH THIS YOU SICK PEOPLE YOU'RE ALL GOING TO BURNNNN BURNNNNNNN BURNNNNNNNNN
thanks in advance
tickledorange
04-16-2006, 01:42 AM
I loved this clip! I got it from clips4sale a while ago and it is one of my favorite ones that I own. PLEASE do more like this sometime. :dog:
Ace Riley
04-16-2006, 10:36 AM
People truly, truly abuse the word torture. "Torture"? This? Excuse me, but as others have said before, this woman had a safe word, was able to use it whenever she pleased. Even when simply saying stop it was enough to make them pull back. Personally, I felt the video to be rather tame in comparison to some of the stuff you could get in Dungeonmaidens.
I would only request people to keep their sensibilities in check. If this isn't your cup of tea, fine, you can comment. But don't push your moral fiber on the producers and other TMF members just because you feel some injustice was done. She wasn't mutilated, or forced to undergo anything she didn't want. So please, stop with the needless exaggeration.
Tickler_DAE
04-17-2006, 03:00 AM
No need to add dumb ass or idiots to your posts. It really does not help your arguement.
and ya do not need to start a nother flame war in this topic, really now.
TicklishLayla
04-17-2006, 04:36 AM
Just remember the golden rule here, people.
:p
sweetgirl23
04-17-2006, 04:56 PM
For people who are angry about this clip, just relax, there is far worse things on the internet then this, and if it really was a problem to her she can handle it herself. It seems everytime something is a little out of the box people who go nuts and complain about it. If you don't want to see things that might seem like torture, then why did you look at it in the first place? Don't some of you have better things to do with your time then to agrue with people over a video clip that may or just have been acting torture. Just settle down we are all adults here, if it bothered you, just delete the clip or whatever and forget about it. Oh, and for those of you who have to swear and all that jazz in your angry posts, maybe you should come back here when your over 18, and if you are act it!
tummytickler69
04-19-2006, 02:18 PM
i liked the clip eventhough im not that much of a foot guy . I dont knowmuch french but i know that arret'e means stop . see how many times she says that in the last 30 seconds . wow this is the first time ive ever been able to post yay
Fevverz
04-19-2006, 02:44 PM
As is said round my way, "B*ll*cks to politics."
Love the clip.
Fev.
trace1984
04-22-2006, 09:26 PM
iv seen hundred if not thousands of videos and i given an award for most intense,,,BUT the ticklers had no emotions,, and she was to outta of it for me to enjoy so as a video i wouldnt buy it.....the video was kinda dark...... that can be called tickle torture!!... unlike alot of video companies,,,,,
ImSmokin1RU
04-30-2006, 08:10 AM
Very interesting clip.
GL2814
12-04-2006, 07:46 PM
Great clip!!! Truly sadistic!! Next time you need to tie Camille up a bit better. Love Camille.
SlaverTickler
12-04-2006, 10:05 PM
Obviously Camilla is a sicko, and there for my kind of girl. :)
Cavum
12-04-2006, 10:48 PM
The poeple who find this video offencive really gives me a good laugh.
Is THIS to sadistic?? I done stuff like that myself on girls many times.
The girls cry out and scream to stop, but in the end they thank me for it.
If you want sadistic, then try to check out the girls on www.insex.com .
Many girls I know is also intro that kind of stuff, and they have a normal
everyday life besides this.
Before you start mention how sick that is etc. etc. I just want to add how
pathitic it is for people who have a fetish/"special" sexlife to judge other people
who also have fetishes/"Special" sexlife compared to em.
Is it so damn hard to just respect what other people like without making
a big fuzz about every thing??
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