NFL Free Agency

[Tickle_Fiend05]

I just saw that Edgerin James signed with the Cardinals and that the Browns have added a few more people. I must say, I am glad to see teams such as the Cards and Browns try hard to become competitive. I'm glad they got the CBA done and will keep the league competitive. I had heard the NFLPA say a few times before that they would never have another salary cap if it didnt get done and thats coming from a Cowboys fan. Saw the Redskins also have signed Randle-El. That offense, unfortunately, is looking sharp right now. I'm just glad they got all the BS over with.

[falconfan]

I want vince young to go to the saints.

[Wrathchild]

Most underrated Free Agency move: CB Sam Madison signs with my beloved NY Giants :Hyrdrogen

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I just saw that Edgerin James signed with the Cardinals and that the Browns have added a few more people. I must say, I am glad to see teams such as the Cards and Browns try hard to become competitive. I'm glad they got the CBA done and will keep the league competitive. I had heard the NFLPA say a few times before that they would never have another salary cap if it didnt get done and thats coming from a Cowboys fan. Saw the Redskins also have signed Randle-El. That offense, unfortunately, is looking sharp right now. I'm just glad they got all the BS over with.
Amen to that fiend. I am glad they got the BS over with too. What does Edgerin do for the Cardinals??? The Cards play good defense but they were never really able to score. This could be HUGE for the Cardinals.

[german]

They signed James so that some seats will be filled in the first few home games, nothing is wrong with Shipp or J.J its that no body could run behind that line last year and getting Milford Brown isnt going to change that. Anyway I think Jamal Lewis is a better back........

Kust

[FlockOfSeagulls]

I just saw that Edgerin James signed with the Cardinals and that the Browns have added a few more people. I must say, I am glad to see teams such as the Cards and Browns try hard to become competitive. I'm glad they got the CBA done and will keep the league competitive. I had heard the NFLPA say a few times before that they would never have another salary cap if it didnt get done and thats coming from a Cowboys fan. Saw the Redskins also have signed Randle-El. That offense, unfortunately, is looking sharp right now. I'm just glad they got all the BS over with.



as long as Brunell is qb that offense is going no where

[FlockOfSeagulls]

Most underrated Free Agency move: CB Sam Madison signs with my beloved NY Giants :Hyrdrogen



Madison is a very good player that DOES NOT fit giants defensive scheme

[Wrathchild]

They signed James so that some seats will be filled in the first few home games, nothing is wrong with Shipp or J.J its that no body could run behind that line last year and getting Milford Brown isnt going to change that. Anyway I think Jamal Lewis is a better back........

Kust

Take a look at Arringtons and Shipps numbers last year and youll see that there was a lot wrong. Even if they signed Edge to fill seats it was a good move. Now they need to bulk up their O-Line. :upsidedow

[german]

You got a team averaging 270 yards through the air and in the words of their coach (Green) facing 5 men in the box maybe 6 and that line cant get a block off. No doubt that Edge is an up grade for the cards and about time they spend some $$$$ they got the building blocks to be a force in the future.......but about J.J and Shipp, you got a rookie playing in a entire new system to that he had in college but averaged somewhere near 3.5 a carry then you have Shipp who is more of a FB coming off leg and ankle injuries to soon running between the tackles (and we know what a joke they were) averaging only 2.8 yards obviously the blame is shared but with that line last year I dont think even Portis or L.T could run behind it.

I think the 49ers move to get Bryant was one the best things this team could have done, now if he plays to his ability Smith will have someone to throw to.

I was surprised that Jamal Lewis went back to the Ravens after last years performance of a spoilt child (playing soft because he had no deal) but even more surprised they took him back.

Damn Raiders nothing yet :sowrong:..................plus I keep on having these nightmares that they sign Josh McCown as their big off season to save the franchise then I wake up in a cold sweat only to find they have done nothing (which in that scenario is good but in general bad :sowrong: ) personally for the Raiders to be able to compete again (not be a force or play offs maybe 8-8) they only need a QB, LB and a safety........*snap* LaVar Arrington *snap* Culpepper *snap* um about the safety maybe the draft..... :idunno:

Kust

[slacker2114]

A POX on the man who came up with free agency!!!

Edgerrin James sent to wallow in the hell that is the Arizona Cardinals and, even worse, Antawann Randel-el scheduled to disappear into nothingness on the Washington Redskins. Damn, I hate free agency!!! :disgust:

[Wrathchild]

Big Blue moving in on RW McQuarters. Strengthing the weakness of the team which was the secondary. Now all we need are some Defensive Lineman and we be the team to beat in the NFC. Giants Rule!!! :wavingguy

[stloldg]

Minnesota Vikings just traded Culpepper to the Dolphins, would like to see how well he do there.

also

I have a god son going into the draft this year, Brandon Williams From Wisconsin, was one of the leading receivers and returner there, one year he was NCAA Duel players, He broke Wisconsin reciever records, just think i was with him when he was a little puppy in JFL. DAmn does time fly

[Tickle_Fiend05]

Minnesota Vikings just traded Culpepper to the Dolphins, would like to see how well he do there.

also

I have a god son going into the draft this year, Brandon Williams From Wisconsin, was one of the leading receivers and returner there, one year he was NCAA Duel players, He broke Wisconsin reciever records, just think i was with him when he was a little puppy in JFL. DAmn does time fly

and drew brees signed with the saints...i love free agency

[german]

I must apologies to TMF member who were stunned and shocked to hear a curse word echo through their home minutes ago.

A 2nd round pick just a 2nd round pick. This is what the Raiders has done with a 2nd round pick in recent times.

05 - Stanford Routt: high hope until teams 4th recievers burned him every down. To soon to call a bust - he has to start but..........
04 - Jack Grove: moved to guard and struggles moved to centre struggled. BUST.
03 - Teyo Johnson: He went to the cards cause he couldn't beat out a 7th round pick in training camp. BUST (Also in 03 the Raiders had 2 1st Round picks Asomugha needs to be moved to FS and Brayton well he is a BUST)
02 - D Jolley BUST L Walker BUST
01 - Marques Tuiasosopo: BUST BUST BUST he was worse then Kerry Collins
00 - This was the only decent 2nd round pick in the last 6 drafts, Jerry Porter and he is only a solid 2nd reciever.

Like do I have to continue they have drafted crap just crap with their 2nd rounders yet for a chance to be able to challenge teams in their own division all they needed to do was ship that pick for Culpepper.

Yay again I can look forward to another f**ked up draft from the Raiders, S**t free agents being brought in. Well I guess its the time that I change teams to where Charles Woodson ends up............. :sowrong:

Hmm T.O was offical cut I wonder where he ends up???

Kust

[german]

OK OK OK, the Raiders do something remotely good in signing guard Toniu Fonoti, now I think that is good didn't cost much but at least now that o-line can built - the pieces are there but finding the right position will be hard; Gallery, Sims, Walker, Grove and now Fonoti some thing that at least looks like a solid line can be formed.

As I said at the start they do something like half good then they go like six thousand steps back by bringing in McCown in for an interview (my nightmares are coming true like WTF) and move that my hands are hating (wouldn't stop hitting my punching bag when I heard this) that Kerry Collins is coming back to talk contract re-structure now why why why why on earth can they even think about doing this. There are options available instead of either of them.

Also they still haven't even looked at that D yet :dropatear:dropatear C Wood going (they should re-sign him :ignite: :ignite: he gives some respect to that D) leaves holes in that secondary that anyone could run through along with no linebackers to cover or blitz or even tackle anyone.

Like I just dont understand what they are doing the likes of Arrington and Petterson are sitting in free agency land when one or the other could come in and make a massive impact on that defense then with the no.7 pick take Young (or Cutler depends which one is available) then in the second round take a safety or they could even take safety Michael Huff with the no.7 pick and then take Omar Jacobs from Bowling Green if he is available, there are so many things they can do instead of Collins or McCown............... :rant: :rant:

Really I'm just hoping C Wood ends up some where good so I can go for some one with a half a hope.

Kust

[Wrathchild]

Jay Cutler is going to the NY Jets. :manicd:

[stloldg]

German

i feel you pain, when mike martz was the coach here we had 3, let me say it again 3 1st round picks in the same year, all of them sucked :Grrr: and just sign with other teams, :yawnface: thank god. :happyfloa

The following year we had 2 first rounders, they have not seen the field yet. :ranty: We had Marshall sitting on the sideline looking, he can't run as fast as he use to be he is still a good back.

We didn't have fullback period, we had 3 Tight ends only one could block, :shock: and he mess up his knee 2 weeks in the season, the other 2 could catch at least but none of the play included a catching tight end. Bruce, went down with turf toe :feets: , and the QB got hit soooo many times he thought he was Steve Young and Troy Akman at the same time. :idunno: :shake: :shake: :ranty:

I'm soooooo glad he Detriot problem now.

[Wrathchild]

If the Giants get one Defensive Linemen and maybe some Offensive Lineman that know how to block without holding youre looking at the NFC Champions.:veryhappy

[FlockOfSeagulls]

Big Blue moving in on RW McQuarters. Strengthing the weakness of the team which was the secondary. Now all we need are some Defensive Lineman and we be the team to beat in the NFC. Giants Rule!!! :wavingguy

wow a 49er`s reject.....what a great pickup!!!hahahahahahahaha

[FlockOfSeagulls]

If the Giants get one Defensive Linemen and maybe some Offensive Lineman that know how to block without holding youre looking at the NFC Champions.:veryhappy


man you are looking through some rose colored glasses. the best thing for the Giants would be for Eli to progress this year. And not regress like he did last year.

[Wrathchild]

man you are looking through some rose colored glasses. the best thing for the Giants would be for Eli to progress this year. And not regress like he did last year.

I respect the passion you Texans have for football, its like baseball up here but you are terrified of us deep down. You remember what Jeremy Shockey did you last time we met. How about Julius Jones? Theres a laugh! Hes right up there with Chad Pennington on the "could get hurt playing video game football" list. You see you have to understand Eli had 24 touchdowns with 17 INTS and about 3500 yards. That was his first full year starting and he led them to the playoffs. Carson Palmer had similar stats his first full year and Peyton tossed a lot of pics his first 2 years too. Next year Eli will be better at dumpoff passes and reading defenses which he already displays a great talent for. Your team the Cowgirls gets routinely smashed by the Giants because our old coach is more interested in old wide recievers and fat defensive ends. You know deep down in your heart the the Giants have a far better team than the Cowgirls. I mean you criticize Eli and your QB is DREW BLEDSOE????? Well see in september my friend. The Giants will whip "Americas Team" in front of your pretty little cheerleaders and your goofy fans like we always do. :firedevil

[Tickle_Fiend05]

I respect the passion you Texans have for football, its like baseball up here but you are terrified of us deep down. You remember what Jeremy Shockey did you last time we met. How about Julius Jones? Theres a laugh! Hes right up there with Chad Pennington on the "could get hurt playing video game football" list. You see you have to understand Eli had 24 touchdowns with 17 INTS and about 3500 yards. That was his first full year starting and he led them to the playoffs. Carson Palmer had similar stats his first full year and Peyton tossed a lot of pics his first 2 years too. Next year Eli will be better at dumpoff passes and reading defenses which he already displays a great talent for. Your team the Cowgirls gets routinely smashed by the Giants because our old coach is more interested in old wide recievers and fat defensive ends. You know deep down in your heart the the Giants have a far better team than the Cowgirls. I mean you criticize Eli and your QB is DREW BLEDSOE????? Well see in september my friend. The Giants will whip "Americas Team" in front of your pretty little cheerleaders and your goofy fans like we always do. :firedevil

the boys won the first game, the giants won the second...either game could have went either way...i mean of course shockey will have a big game when plaxico burress is shut down all game by 5'9 aaron glenn...and just because eli seems to be following the same path as his brother and carson doesnt mean it will end the same, although i know he will be good and i felt he did good last year for a second year qb...drew bledsoe is a great qb who just needs a line like all qbs...he didnt do bad last year...he was right with hasselback in numbers and better than delhomme and didnt make the probowl...and the only team who has rountinely beat the 'boys is the eagles since 200, except this past season...as for bill parcells, he loves his old players and the ones he brings in do produce...o-line help will have drew in the probowl next year...and one more LB and a safety next to roy and they should be ok

[german]

Hmm the Browns go it again by getting McGinest, I just hope there not signing busts; thats all that team needs to have a lot of dead cap money in the future.

Also I just learnt that the only player the Raiders had signed failed his physical cause he was like 400 pounds...............I see nothing has changed with Oakland, I see a long 3-13 season.

Kust

[Wrathchild]

the boys won the first game, the giants won the second...either game could have went either way...i mean of course shockey will have a big game when plaxico burress is shut down all game by 5'9 aaron glenn...and just because eli seems to be following the same path as his brother and carson doesnt mean it will end the same,

Aaron Glenn is good and Plax is there to give Eli weapons...he was the best wideout in the market and BigBlue should be commended for signing him. He was the main reason for Elis successful first year. Some people are already calling Eli the next Ryan Leaf after a fine season that he had in his first full year. I think Eli has only his first playoff game to ashamed of thats it. But then again Rothisberger sucked in the RefereeBowl didnt he? And he was injured a lot of the year. Is he a flop too? :Hyrdrogen

[german]

I came across this site I found interesting when I was looking through foxsports.com:

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&nid=83&lnid=124&yr=2006

It has a full list of players available for the up coming draft and ranks them overall and also in regards to position. This site I have found so far to be the best for information, stats, positives and negatives of the player and with no NFL general thread I thought I post it here.

Kust

[primetime]

at least some of your teams are doing something. my 49ers? still continue to baffle me. we let go of Brandon Lloyd and pick up Antonio Bryant? how come i'm not exactly jumping for joy?

i think the 49er management has absolutely NO CLUE on where to go. drafting Alex Smith was a bad idea. he played in a "gimmick" offense in college, so he was never really prepared for complex pro style offenses. he is "okay", but we are in a world of hurt.

of course my 49ers thought it would be a good idea and WIN THEIR LAST TWO GAMES last year, effectively ending any chance of Reggie Bush wearing 49er gold. now, i PRAY they draft that Tight End from Maryland (i keep forgetting his name), but the guy is like 6'4" 260 pounds and get this....he ran a 4.38 40 yard time in the combine last month. a 4.38???????!!! for a TIGHT END???!!!! since we lost Bush, we better get this guy, that way Smith has another target.

i can see another losing season for the 49ers again. i miss Eddie Debartolo...

[german]

Nice sig primetime, I think you mean Vernon Davis. He is the top rated TE in this years draft. Hey Antonio Bryant is a good reciever with a rare combination of size and speed and that is one more then Oakland plus I would take Smith over Collins or McCown any day.

Kust

[primetime]

hey German, thanks for providing the 49er pics of Deion. you should see the other designs Mimi came up with. i like yours as well. i always liked Charles Woodson, even when he won the Heisman at Michigan.

Vernon Davis, that's right! that guy is a freak of nature. 4.38? it boggles the mind. he could become the next Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzales, but faster. c'mon 49ers, do the right thing!

Antonio Bryant is a decent receiver, but i dont see him as that playmaker receiver. he isnt a Hines Ward, he isnt a T.O., he isnt Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, etc. he's okay. the 49ers need someone who can make plays. they need a whole new team really, but get someone who can excite the fans at the same time we are losing. i hope Mike Nolan and crew make the right decision.

i'm shocked Culpepper is in Miami. it should be interesting as now Chris Chambers has a good QB. but what would really help him is Ricky Williams. Ronnie Brown is okay, but Ricky is getting his football "legs" again and will be a force.

who will the Raiders get for QB? they need one badly. i thought Culpepper would go there. i guess not. who are the Raiders looking to draft? AJ Hawk?

[german]

Just looking at this site I found the Raiders have options, there are high ranking QBs that could fall to Oakland in the 2nd round: D.J. Shockley from Georgia or Omar Jacobs from Bowling Green both are athletes (and have more of a complete passing action then young) which would leave the Raiders taken Huff from Texas with their top pick. Plus what I have been saying all along that their are LB's available now Arrington or Peterson, you got to spend money to win. The Raiders being quite makes me think that Mr Davis has something up his sleeve.

Kust

[Tickle_Fiend05]

Just looking at this site I found the Raiders have options, there are high ranking QBs that could fall to Oakland in the 2nd round: D.J. Shockley from Georgia or Omar Jacobs from Bowling Green both are athletes (and have more of a complete passing action then young) which would leave the Raiders taken Huff from Texas with their top pick. Plus what I have been saying all along that their are LB's available now Arrington or Peterson, you got to spend money to win. The Raiders being quite makes me think that Mr Davis has something up his sleeve.

Kust

Well at least u dont have to worry about McCown anymore...just saw he signed with Detroit

[Wrathchild]

Well at least u dont have to worry about McCown anymore...just saw he signed with Detroit

Yeah but they may be stuck with Tuiasosopo which will assure them of a 4-12 season at best! :yawnface:

[german]

I always said it would be a 3-13 season but at least I can sleep at night with out the McCown nightmares.

Kust

[Wrathchild]

I always said it would be a 3-13 season but at least I can sleep at night with out the McCown nightmares.

Kust

Yeah but McCown is 100 times better than Tuiasosopo and thats scary! Why not go after Jon Kitna? Or better yet reunite Culpepper with Moss. Thats what the fans really want to see. :triangle:

[Tickle_Fiend05]

Yeah but McCown is 100 times better than Tuiasosopo and thats scary! Why not go after Jon Kitna? Or better yet reunite Culpepper with Moss. Thats what the fans really want to see. :triangle:

I wanted to see them reunite for sure. I think that they'll take a QB in April though, either Young or Cutler. They could even be interested in Matt Schaub, the backup in Atlanta, and he's ok. Maybe with time he could be a good QB.

[Wrathchild]

Matt Schaub could be a very good pick up for the boys in black. That would be my hope because why draft a rookie whos gonna take 3 years to develop when Moss, Porter and Jordan are in their prime. The timetable would be off. Go for Schaub or how about the Titans backup Billy Volek? He proved better than McNair in his subbing time. :rotate:

[german]

Schaub is good option but Atlanta are asking a high price, look the Jets cant even trade Abraham and a draft pick for him. Volek i'm worried about last season he was in the same position as Schaub the best QB available ready to take over any team when ever etc etc but he fell from everyone's lips for one reason or another which makes me think he was a on hit wonder so to speak.

I'm pretty sure that Tuiasosopo wont be the starting QB come week 1 but nothing left on the market worth consideration a 'popularity' draft pick in Vince Young seems to be a legit chance.

Also I think Mr Davis has wheels in motion in regards to something big - look was there more of a typical Davis/Raiders move available in getting Culpepper - I think not, which come draft day I can honestly say I would not be surprised if the Raiders some how get the top pick and draft Reggie Bush........something he would do.

I keep on saying a quality big name LB would do wonders for the team, moral and on the field.

Kust

[Wrathchild]

Id let the Texans or whoever have Reggie Bush. Lamont Jordan is very good if the O line blocks for him. Honestly id take that linebacker you said or some other hole thats needed. Schwab has a high asking price but he played so well in Vicks abscence you might want to try to get his asking price down. Prority #1 for Raiders is a QB and id say some OLmen to protect him....trade the pick? Maybe. :triangle:

[german]

For sure no good having Moss on one side of the field and Porter on the other if you have no QB throwing them the ball but also its no good chasing points every drive if the D cant stop other teams.

Personally I think Huff from Texas would be a nice pick he can hit and cover and like what all the mock draft say about Hawk, Huff can also change a game on big plays and I hate to admit but listening to archived Raiders games from last season they dont really need a big name LB, they played a base nickle package which means 2 LB's where both Morrison and Clark played above average - I think Morrison was even recognised as a top 5 rookie defense player and with Woodson nearly 100% not resigning that leaves Asomugha, Washington and Routt (Hill left today) all young and can grow. I hate the Raider safeties I really do, there not a Raider safety like remember Tatum (think thats how you spell it) yeah I do and I think most receivers do as well, Huff will bring that back to the Silver and Black. The line pending how Sapp is after the injury is alright we had the NFL sack leader but some one like Abraham will make it rival to the Giants combo.

Even with Collins the Raiders had a top 10 passing attack think a few O line players like Wrath said and a half decent QB willing to make plays (Collins was simply to worried losing his job or getting stabbed by a member or the black hole one or another) which brings me to the point of taking Huff first as there is nothing at the safety position in the draft after him but where there a plenty of quality QB's

Kust

[Wrathchild]

Id still go for Matt Schwab cuz Al Davis is interested putting points on the board. Defense bores him. He wants a QB that can hook up with his prize Randy Moss. Schwab can do that and he can do that now this way Randy Moss jerseys sell better than they do now. Davis wants that stadium filled and a 4-12 record as long as your scoring 20-30+ points a game will do that. :wowzer:

[german]

We will see what happens....

Also is I found this statement which I think symbolizes the Raiders fans nearly 100%:

"Raider fans are fair-minded that way. They'll do anything for you if you win, and they'll do anything to you if you don't."

Kust

[german]

Mr Davis should sign LL to play safety.

Kust