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Hey Producers! Can we start a "clips tips" thread? Like now!

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Hey folks.
What up?

kay, so.
I'm still relatively new at this.
Have found some success and enjoying this.

Know some of you are seasoned veterans.
Had a meeting with one today who has like ten years plus experience doing clips back before clips4sale existed and even she admitted that there is much learning to be had.

So this is what I want for this thread.

-All of us to reflect our experiences.

-To share what we can about trends. (do previews help?)

-Production talk like stupid huge. Can we help one another share simple
secrets to improve our own work? (Lighting? Equipment?)

-How to lock down an actual business. (be productive. not get fucked on the back end. Be able to write off lube, rope, and stockings.)

Very curious about the contrast between a personal exploration site and for hire sites.

"Ten years ago you had to be CalStar to sell videos of tickling and other fetishes. Then technology formed in a way that we all could potentially make a living off of what we did behind closed doors."

Yeah bitches.
Come with me in making our sites and films better.
Let me know what you think.
Or let this become a dead thread......cool?

(As an after note. Yawning fetish? Ear pulling? Farting on cakes? Forced Cheeseburgers? Yeah......we aren't weird by far, but we can push weird further with vampires being dominated by clowns........)

~s
 
I'm not exactly a producer, but I'll gladly put in my tip to get this show on the road.

Buy a camera that's inexpensive, and small enough to be put in your pocket. My recommendation? The panasonic SDR-S7 Camera. It's small, sleek, and fits in the palm of your hand, or your pocket. It's also very sturdy, I've dropped mine over a hundred times, (shaky hands) and I haven't had an internal problem with it yet.

It has three settings on it for video quality. The first is Low Quality, then Normal Quality, and finally, High Quality. Low Quality is the level I use, and it's very effective, because Low Quality looks like High Quality on this cam, and then High Quality makes everything look HD. And I got mine for 200 dollars at Best Buy.

The Cam uses SD Memory Cards and for video it uses only up to 2 GB. 4GB and above are used for taking photos only. And it comes in black and silver and other colors I believe.

I love this cam, and it's the only cam I use for my videos on my stores. I used to use another came for my tickling videos, but they don't make it anymore, and I'm fine with that.
 
Hey folks.
What up?

kay, so.
I'm still relatively new at this.
Have found some success and enjoying this.

Know some of you are seasoned veterans.
Had a meeting with one today who has like ten years plus experience doing clips back before clips4sale existed and even she admitted that there is much learning to be had.

So this is what I want for this thread.

-All of us to reflect our experiences.

-To share what we can about trends. (do previews help?)

-Production talk like stupid huge. Can we help one another share simple
secrets to improve our own work? (Lighting? Equipment?)

-How to lock down an actual business. (be productive. not get fucked on the back end. Be able to write off lube, rope, and stockings.)

Very curious about the contrast between a personal exploration site and for hire sites.

"Ten years ago you had to be CalStar to sell videos of tickling and other fetishes. Then technology formed in a way that we all could potentially make a living off of what we did behind closed doors."

Yeah bitches.
Come with me in making our sites and films better.
Let me know what you think.
Or let this become a dead thread......cool?

(As an after note. Yawning fetish? Ear pulling? Farting on cakes? Forced Cheeseburgers? Yeah......we aren't weird by far, but we can push weird further with vampires being dominated by clowns........)

~s



There are so many new studios popping up in C4S that it is becoming harder and harder to compete in certain categories. Unless you can produce high-quality video content for which there is little or no competition under a reasonable budget, solely relying on C4S for income is not realistic.

Consider C4S a supplemental income stream, and focus on generating revenue through membership sales and physical DVDs if you have those methods of distribution available.

Producers who rely entirely on income for clips will quickly realize that they must do lots of work for little income unless they are masters of directing massive amounts qualified internet traffic.


Clowns are much scarier than vampires by the way.


If you start a clips4sale store, also consider Fetishvideos.com and Fetishclips.com, which are additional streams of income for fetish content.

:bubble2:
 
Thanks much to you two for posting.
Both of you have given me some decent information.

-Just broke my cam with one drop last week. ouch. Will look into the one you mentioned.

-Will most assuredly check out the other fetish sites for additional posting.

Just got my light kit in the mail! Its a 6' X 9' backdrop with black, white, and green screens. Two decent constant lights with stands and umbrellas. All this for around $140 off of ebay. Pretty sure I could have assembled something by visiting JoAnn Fabric but none the less its still exciting. Up until now we've been using my broke ass room lamps and a halogen work light.

May update here with if such an investment really helps the quality of our videos or not.

Anyone have suggestions for video editing software?

~s
 
Tips from Tickledguy

Ok guys I am about as new at this as the rest of you and I will not poopoo the naysayers that say theres no money on clips4sale I will say you get out of it what you put in. My store is 3 months old and already had a top 50 clip and another one coming.

Trends don't matter, reality does: trreat your fans like you want to be treated and they will return. I have guys that come into my live chats and make requests regularly and I give them what they want.

Do I sometimes spend more than I make on a clip? YES
Why do that you ask?
when you give them a taste of what they want they will order custom clips
and your ROI is covered.

Prime example: Bodypaint Tickle torture was a clip that only sold 3 copies at 12.00 each after C4S hosting i make about $7.00 so all total I made 21.00
the model cost 100.00 for the scene, 20.00 for paint and about 2 hrs of my time planning, posting, marketing and editing for an estimated total $150.00

the math 21.00-150.00= -129.00 pretty big loss margin right?

But bear in mind I am having fun= Priceless

2 weeks after the loss those three customers ordered 1-3 customs each at an average of $250.00 each and they were able to be released on my clip stores too so it does balance out.

You have to treat it like a business for sure but if its not something you truly enjoy doing it will show in your clips and your sales.

I have one motto I live by: When the fun is gone so am I

Rule 1 book of TG

P.S. any new producers needing marketing advice or places to post, hit me up and I'll help you.
 
A forum for producers on TMF

This thread and the other one bring me back the need for a forum here on TMF where producers can meet and share ideas and hints without revealing all your secrets to the general public.

Also is a good way of warning producers about a flake, scams, or let people in the area know when a hot model is looking for work.
 
I've found it nearly impossible to sell DVDs on the videos4sale site. I offer high res DVDs and high definition blu-rays for anywhere from $15.99-$25.99. In 7 months, I've sold 3 DVDs, practically to the same person. I'm getting positive feedback on my clips, which also have slowed since the spring. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
The TickleShow
 
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I've found it nearly impossible to sell DVDs on the videos4sale site. I offer high res DVDs and high definition blu-rays for anywhere from $15.99-$25.99. In 7 months, I've sold 3 DVDs, practically to the same person. I'm getting positive feedback on my clips, which also have slowed since the spring. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
The TickleShow

DVD sales it seems, rely heavily on updates and marketing just like clips. I am actually showing a constant increase in clips sales but DVD's aren't moving. I have better luck selling the downloadable dvd version as a clip than as a dvd.
 
Same here. People seem to have an issue with items being delivered to their homes.

The TickleShow
 
Well thats because DVD are out! The whole point of clips4sales is to download right now, why wait! And people can always burn their clips into CD Roms or DVD-Rs.

I stopped marketing DVDs a long time ago. I only do DVDs when a client requests it by e-mail.

I looked at your clipstore and noticed that you have big gaps between updates. That might be a reason for the lack of sales. My recomendation would be first try to have one clip per day, before posting more than one in one day. When you have enough material to cover every day then start updating more than once a day.

A 60 minutes tape can be cut into at least 30 clips, so there you have one clip per day. By doing multiple formats then you can make multiple updates in one day.

for example day 1: clip 1 in wmv at 12:00am, mp4 at 3am, dialup at 6am, and so on.

Hope this helps.
 
So What kind of cameras do you all recommend for some of our potential producers here?
 
Well thats because DVD are out! The whole point of clips4sales is to download right now, why wait! And people can always burn their clips into CD Roms or DVD-Rs.

I stopped marketing DVDs a long time ago. I only do DVDs when a client requests it by e-mail.

I looked at your clipstore and noticed that you have big gaps between updates. That might be a reason for the lack of sales. My recomendation would be first try to have one clip per day, before posting more than one in one day. When you have enough material to cover every day then start updating more than once a day.

A 60 minutes tape can be cut into at least 30 clips, so there you have one clip per day. By doing multiple formats then you can make multiple updates in one day.

for example day 1: clip 1 in wmv at 12:00am, mp4 at 3am, dialup at 6am, and so on.

Hope this helps.

DVDs are certainly dying out, and not just in the adult industry. I predict, within the next 5-10 years that the DVD will go the way of the casette tape.
That whole blue-ray winning the battle with HD won't mean much when large film and TV libraries such as Netflix start offering more and more content as direct stream to your computer, gamming console and TV. New DVD players and TVs are already setup to stream Netflix. That said, DVDs can still be profitable. I think it depends on your clientele. We just did a huge $1500 sale in DVDs to a single client. On rare occasions we will even do VHS for those buying enough titles. In all matters where you are trying to turn a profit, always ask yourself one question: Is the return I'm getting (and it doesn't have to be cash) worth the work I'm putting in? If the answer is no, then either don't do it or don't continue it.
webmaster joe
 
I am looking to push sales on my web page as my main thing, and CFS as a back-up. I try to push videos on my web page, rather than CFS, because they charge 40% on each video sold. I simply point out and advertise the fact they can purchase the same video on my web page cheaper.

It's just not wise (or practical) to treat CFS as the Holy Grail, end-all-be-all for video sales. Sometimes you may sell several videos, and sometimes you may go weeks without getting a single sale.

So by all means, keep CFS as a backup option, but also look for other ways to market your videos as well. You will want to have several options at your disposal.

And if you have not already: Get a web-page (and I mean a real one, not a free one on Geoshitties) if you want to be taken as a serious producer.

As far as cameras go, the most expensive model is not always the best model. Do a little shopping around and talk to some of the enthusiasts on the video camera boards, as I am sure they will be happy to share information with you.

Good luck.
 
I can say that using an HD camera is a MUST. Spend the money because it will be worth it in the long. Like any business you have to invest before you make money. The amount of content you get per dollar is the key here....obviously. C4S will treat you right...if you update right. Forget about DVD's. Forget about starting a membership site unless you plan on buying MASSIVE amounts of traffic immediately OR you have plenty of time to build your SEO for that particular site. The bottom line in this area is traffic. As Always. Use other peoples traffic (like C4S) and shoot good content at a cheap price. If you film well and capture good content it's only a matter of time at that point.

You have to put the work in to get the results. Be creative and Be Ambitious.

I hope I helped a bit. of course this is just my opinion..others may have a different view....
 
Actually, at least one of those is the worst advice you can give, if I follow what you are saying. Your sentence is a little jumbled. "If you are in it do make any money: don't do it." I take that to mean: if you are in it TO make money, don't do it? Really, that is terrible advice and smacks of the whole artiste attitude of "art for art sake" and "if I get
paid for it, it's no longer art." Please, enough with the starving artist. Producers can make quality videos AND make money. I would even say that their hearts don't even have to be in it. I know a few producers in this community and even more artists out of it that do tickling videos and comics/commision art and have little to no interest in the festish. It's just gig for them. Particularly the artists. And you know what, some of them are artist folks buy from regularly. So lets drop the myth that you can't do this just for the money. It's a job like any other, and if you do a good job, you can make money at it. Period. This is the truely best advice...do a good job. Don't half ass it. Learn what customers like, learn how to use a camera, how to edit, how to properly light your set. Learn the things that are part of your trade. Even if you're an "artiste," you may be a crappy artiste if you don't learn the skills needed to do the job.
LGZ
 
Your right, I did mean TO, obviously .... Typos happen when your up for 24 hours straight. What I meant was dont do it if you expect to make alot of money right away

You got me totally wrong, I wasnt saying anything about starving artists and producing "art" for arts sake. And not doing this for a business.

What I was saying, in a very short way, was chances are it will not be very lucrative and you will be lucky to make back even what the model cost. Due in part to, this being a very small niche market, and there already being large established companies producing media that have a loyal following. I was commenting based on my experience so far, kinda as a warning. I spent A LOT of money to start this, used HD video from an expensive camera, set lights, built quality and sturdy stocks - not plywood crap. made sure to have a clean mess free set, unlike many, used a model with good reactions and who had a fan base already, captured great angles and videos, and yet despite having my previews often at the front of forums, I receive little in the way of sales.

When I said don't do trying to a fulfill a fantasy, I meant like don't try to use at as an opportunity to tickle a girl for sexual satisfaction. Many guys think they will hire a model and tickle the hell out of her and that's all. They don't realize that chances are there will be another male present on set as escort, they don't realize you will be concerned with capturing a good angle while, and how much time has elapsed, etc while filming. I knew all of this before hand, I was going into it as business but a fun business.

I think this is good information to know.

Well, I can't say why you're not getting the sales. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration. One thing I do know, you can make the sales, and you don't have to spend a lot of money to do it. I will not single out particular producers, but a number of them manage to make very decent and popular videos on shoe string budgets. They spend very little, but make the most of the resources they have. On the opposite end of the spectrum, there are those producers who spend a lot of money on initial setup or even per video, and they don't make nearly as much as the shoe string guys. Some think we at LGZ spend a lot of money, given the costuming, props, locations ect. We don't. We look for deals, we reuse costumes or parts of them, we don't spend the insane amounts some producers do on their models. A big name model does not guarantee big sales. Especially if she has been around fora while and doen plenty of tickling vids. She's not going to be fresh or as sought after by viewers as some producers think, but she will cost youa lot more. It's all a balance, and you have to really evaluate how much you are willing to spend vs what you average in profit from an average video. There have been videos that we spent more on than we should, and it took a while to recoup the investment. On average, a good video for us pays for its initial investment in the first week. Everything after that is profit and going into producing new videos. Really phenominal ones pay for themselves in a day. This is our model, and some producers do better than that in sales, but a lot do much worse, and it takes them much longer to get out of the red.
LGZ
 
I don't agree

I have known producers that had that same mentality, went on to make their own website and ended up returning to clips4sale. Others have been able to have success with their own site.

I am a one man crew, and what I love about clips4sale is that I can focus on making videos and not have to worry about mantaining servers, websites, coding, banks, credit cards, etc. Also, you have to think about traffic! Clips4sale is a well known site, and it generates a lot of traffic. Self promotion helps a lot too but the hard fact is that most of my traffic and sales come from inside clips4sale. So keep that in mind when you are on your own.

Is true the clips4sale is not perfect, and I have tried other similar sites that look a lot better but in reality they are not worth it.

If you have gone weeks without seen a sale, there is probably something wrong with your clips, because the most I have gone without a sale is one day and is very rare.

Keep in mind that it takes time and work, and if on top of that you are going to administer your own site, it will take more time and work.


I am looking to push sales on my web page as my main thing, and CFS as a back-up. I try to push videos on my web page, rather than CFS, because they charge 40% on each video sold. I simply point out and advertise the fact they can purchase the same video on my web page cheaper.

It's just not wise (or practical) to treat CFS as the Holy Grail, end-all-be-all for video sales. Sometimes you may sell several videos, and sometimes you may go weeks without getting a single sale.

So by all means, keep CFS as a backup option, but also look for other ways to market your videos as well. You will want to have several options at your disposal.

And if you have not already: Get a web-page (and I mean a real one, not a free one on Geoshitties) if you want to be taken as a serious producer.

As far as cameras go, the most expensive model is not always the best model. Do a little shopping around and talk to some of the enthusiasts on the video camera boards, as I am sure they will be happy to share information with you.

Good luck.
 
I am proud to be able to say that "I tickle women for a living" so I do make enough money to pay rent and bills. Still money is not what I think about when I am shooting a video and uploading a clip. On those ocassions that I am shooting and only thinking about sales the final result is usually a very cold and emotionless video that as a result will have poor sales. My most successful videos have been those were I forget about the business part and just have fun with the girl. This also required a model that likes what she doing and not just doing it for the money.

I'd say, "You can make enough money to make a living but don't expect to become rich!" and also success won't happen over night. It took me about a year to generate enough sales that make me feel safe about quiting my job. And I have been living from clips for the almost three years now. It has been a bumpy ride, because I went solo right when recession was kicking in. Still I managed to survive by keeping my cost of life to a minimum.


Actually, at least one of those is the worst advice you can give, if I follow what you are saying. Your sentence is a little jumbled. "If you are in it do make any money: don't do it." I take that to mean: if you are in it TO make money, don't do it? Really, that is terrible advice and smacks of the whole artiste attitude of "art for art sake" and "if I get
paid for it, it's no longer art." Please, enough with the starving artist. Producers can make quality videos AND make money. I would even say that their hearts don't even have to be in it. I know a few producers in this community and even more artists out of it that do tickling videos and comics/commision art and have little to no interest in the festish. It's just gig for them. Particularly the artists. And you know what, some of them are artist folks buy from regularly. So lets drop the myth that you can't do this just for the money. It's a job like any other, and if you do a good job, you can make money at it. Period. This is the truely best advice...do a good job. Don't half ass it. Learn what customers like, learn how to use a camera, how to edit, how to properly light your set. Learn the things that are part of your trade. Even if you're an "artiste," you may be a crappy artiste if you don't learn the skills needed to do the job.
LGZ
 
I am a one man crew, and what I love about clips4sale is that I can focus on making videos and not have to worry about mantaining servers, websites, coding, banks, credit cards, etc. Also, you have to think about traffic! Clips4sale is a well known site, and it generates a lot of traffic. Self promotion helps a lot too but the hard fact is that most of my traffic and sales come from inside clips4sale. So keep that in mind when you are on your own.

I too am a one-man operation. But I don't have to worry about servers and stuff like that, either. I don't have to worry about credit card payments, because Paypal does it all, for me.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking C4S, I'm just saying it not the 'one and only option' that people claim it is.

If you can write, you can create a web page. It's not as diffcult as you make it out to be.

No offense.
 
My 2 cents are this. I am a producer of soft porn. Tickling, throat, forced orgasm tickling, bound belly fetish.

Find a niche that is not as heavily competed against and make it your own. Make it as hardcore as the niche will allow. Film it in HD. Make a site and a C4S store. Distribute.

IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO THE QUALITY OF CONTENT IN THE NICHE. THIS CAN NOT BE UNDERESTIMATED.

If you have a good product. It will sell. The we all come back to the same source...............................................traffic.
 
Sorry I am digging this post up from the DEAD! I just wanted to say thank you to all the people who posted in this thread! It's been a huge help for me staring out in Clips4Sale. I'm not looking to make it a career, just something fun to do while I am at home.
I'd still love some advice if anyone is interested in giving, please let me know! Send me a message, I'm so eager to learn!

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