An intelligent post and Brandie's feet. This is the best thread on the Forum right now
Originally Posted by Freethought
I don't think being turned on by mmmm/m makes you gay or bi, either. I know some guys who enjoy watching the videos but have no interest or arousal in dating or kissing another man.
"Being turned on" is a sexual feeling. Having sexual feelings as a result of participating or watching or fatasizing about activities between two or more speciemns of the same gender is generally referred to as homosexual (remember: homo = Greek for equal, sex = Greek for gender). If the same person also has sexual feeling when watching or participating in activities between people of different gender it's called bisexual.
Originally Posted by BrandiElizabeth
Get over it guys, there is nothing dirty or "fruity" about being something else than heterosexual. I almost find it insulting when people are getting panic attacks from the "life-threatening" thought that they might be gay or bi. It's almost like a black guy going out of the way arguing that he is in reality white, trying to find evidence of white pigments in his skin, and all that because he thinks if he finally has to admit that he is black he will be classified (by others and by his own system of values) an inferior human being. Or ape-like, or fruity, or whatever someone might think about blacks.
Wiser words were never spoken!
Get over it guys, there is nothing dirty or "fruity" about being something else than heterosexual. I almost find it insulting when people are getting panic attacks from the "life-threatening" thought that they might be gay or bi.
I've only occasionally gotten tickled by other dudes -- in my experience, in this culture, women seem more likely playfully to tickle guys in social situations than other guys are.
But I did wind up in a couple of situations in college where other guys got the upper hand with me and proceeded to tickle me fairly relentlessly, and in some complicated way the very fact that there was nothing arousing to me about the experience was appealing. When women tickle me I have a love/hate response to the experience: I'm aroused by the attention but the sensation itself is intolerable. When these guys tickle-tortured me there was only the intolerability, and the fact that I was helpless to do anything about that... and that I was laughing just as hard and as helplessly as when women tickle me, and was helpless to do anything but that, and the fact that the tickling itself was an expression of some fairly naked aggression on the guys' part...
Well, at the time it was torture; I was desperate for it to stop. But recalling having been subjugated in that way stirs up complicated and not-entirely-hetero responses on my part.
I'm a straight guy and I've met up about two dozen times with guys from online to tie and tickle them. I insist that they're not naked. One time I talked on the phone with a guy before going over to his place and he agreed that he was ok with not getting naked. When I got there, he didn't want his wrists tied up, and after tickling him for awhile , he went ahead and pulled down his shorts. I did NOT like that, but I was already there tickling, so I didn't just walk out and leave. Since then I've made up my mind that I WILL walk out if a guy gets naked like that again!
So yes, there is a such think as tickling that is not foreplay. Although I know for alot of people m/m or f/f tickling is foreplay just like some opposite gender tickling.
I think we should just deal with this:
There are 6 Billion (with a 'B') of us on this planet and, guess what, there may be more than one or two types of tickling sessions.
Many people get off on fear, torture, downgrading, humiliation, slavery, being overpowered, along with other titles that most people would consider as negative. And it wouldnt matter what gender your attractive too. Its an oppression that some people love, sometimes with a gender they are not attracted too.
I think my bf exhibits some fairly aggressive dominance play/body language when he is tickling me, and because we're both into it there's definitely a sexual component to it, absolutely. But if a straight guy is tickling another guy it can just be dominance play/roughhousing.
That said, tickling is predominantly experienced as sexual play for a lot of the visitors to this site, and sexual arousal is experienced with tickle play/fantasy generally. So maybe it's difficult to separate the act from intent, or interpretation.
Ler, lee and, indeed, audience all bring their own interpretation of the tickling to their experience of it, which may not be exactly the same for all of them.
40something ticklebear in North Dakota, an equal opportunity tormenter of both men and
women and pretty damn' ticklish himself. Wanna know where? Come over here and find out!