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Recently i read about a demo in London (a face sitting demo)Friday 12/12/2014(yesterday) in protest at new laws governing videos,The 2014 Audiovisual Media Services Regulation.
The protest was led by Charlotte Rose who once stood as a candidate to become a PM.(she was also voted sex worker of the year 2013)

If i have my facts correct people in the UK can watch any porn video from outside the UK but not a video produced in the UK, if it contains certain content.

The BBC is the best site to get the facts.

The following is a sample of the restricted content.

The amendment bans the following acts from being depicted by British pornography producers:
Spanking
Caning
Aggressive whipping
Penetration by any object "associated with violence"
Physical or verbal abuse (consensual or not)
Urolagnia (toilet-related sex)
Role-playing as non-adults
Physical restraint
Humiliation
Female ejaculation
Strangulation
Facesitting
Fisting

Some of you will have seen details about this demo and the revised act on Facebook, or other sites.
A lot of the restriction i can agree with but for the tickling people the following give a degree of concern.

The humiliation and restraint factors together with spanking, or a female being depicted in a dominant form will be taboo.

There always needs to be some control and rules but is this the thin edge of the wedge, and a blow to our civil liberties and rights.
 
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Yeah I heard about this. The person I heard this from brought to my attention that this may be a subtle form of sexism, because most of the acts listed on here are the ones that, in his experience, women enjoy the most. I don't know that for sure, but it sounds plausible. Either way, I'm not sure what the UK is trying to do by controlling what kind of porn people enjoy. Hopefully, for the sake of the UK citizens, this gets repealed pretty soon.
 
The establishment relies on porn to keep people entertained, I don't believe this for a minute.
 
Unfortunately Wesker, this is a true story.


As long as everyone involved are consenting adults, nobody should give a rats ass what kind of porn someone does.
 
This is happening here and it's absolute bullshit. If anyone disagrees, the policymakers claim they are doing it to protect the children so if you disagree then you don't want to protect the children. It feels like divide and conquer and the first step towards internet censorship. They start with things which are not mainstream and are easier to block but once there's a precedent they can push it wherever they want.

Recently ISPs in the UK started to ask new subscribers to opt in to porn filters but it was a spectacular failure (even though no one ever looks at porn online of course...) I read through the detail of some of the proposals. No-one has a problem with Jihadist websites and material getting blocked but once you read down the subjects under discussion they became increasingly vague with headings like 'forums' and 'esoteric information'. Basically, once the filters are in place, they can block anything they like.

If the policymakers wanted to protect children they'd not concern themselves with face sitting and spanking and they'd do more to combat the institutionalised protection of child molesters in positions of power like broadcaster Jimmy Saville and Cyril Smith MP. Sadly, these pieces of shit died before they could be brought to justice.

What's even more ridiculous is that Cameron's policy adviser on internet pornography was arrested for having indecent images of children on his computer! It's hard to imagine a more spectacular own goal.

And these people are supposed to dictate what's good for us to watch?
 
I agree it's a completely unnecessary censorship. As far as I am concerned, if something happens between consenting and mentally sane adults and no permanent physical or psychological injury may result from it, then I think there ought to be no stupid restriction.
 
I've been posting about this myself also. It's true and it is very sad as it will cripple the UK adult industry - the really stupid thing about it is that it only affects content produced (primarily edited) in the UK. Meaning that UK consumers can still watch as much anal fisting as they like (provided they can get through the porn filters that suikoden mentioned), as long as it's coming from elsewhere in the world. Meanwhile even if you shoot the newly illegal content overseas it will be illegal to sell it if you produce and upload it here in the UK. It is ridiculous and simply means that homegrown porn is not allowed whereas everything else is.

The sad thing is that softer fetish producers (like tickling producers) risk getting hit because of the no 'extreme bondage' (which can be interpreted how they like) or 'bondage with gags' rule. I read an ATVOD report from their proceedings against a UK domme, whereby they systematically forced her to remove various, clips, images and previews from both her members site and clips4sale or risk prosecution. In their various justifications, they also declared that CCBill was insufficient as a means of preventing minors from accessing her website. Another concerning development is that clips4sale has apparently now responded by preventing the use of UK debit cards to buy clips.
 
Wow so basically if you were a Mistress or Domina in the UK with a pay for site or clips store you just got royally fucked. Thank god I am in The U.S.A.
 
turtleboy said:
I've been posting about this myself also. It's true and it is very sad as it will cripple the UK adult industry - the really stupid thing about it is that it only affects content produced (primarily edited) in the UK. Meaning that UK consumers can still watch as much anal fisting as they like (provided they can get through the porn filters that suikoden mentioned), as long as it's coming from elsewhere in the world. Meanwhile even if you shoot the newly illegal content overseas it will be illegal to sell it if you produce and upload it here in the UK. It is ridiculous and simply means that homegrown porn is not allowed whereas everything else is.

The sad thing is that softer fetish producers (like tickling producers) risk getting hit because of the no 'extreme bondage' (which can be interpreted how they like) or 'bondage with gags' rule. I read an ATVOD report from their proceedings against a UK domme, whereby they systematically forced her to remove various, clips, images and previews from both her members site and clips4sale or risk prosecution. In their various justifications, they also declared that CCBill was insufficient as a means of preventing minors from accessing her website. Another concerning development is that clips4sale has apparently now responded by preventing the use of UK debit cards to buy clips.
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If I'm understanding this correctly does that mean that you can no longer tie up your models for videos?
 
porcelaindoll2 said:
Wow so basically if you were a Mistress or Domina in the UK with a pay for site or clips store you just got royally fucked. Thank god I am in The U.S.A.
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Completely - a lot of them have closed their stores and are just doing session work etc instead.

FeatherEndeavor said:
If I'm understanding this correctly does that mean that you can no longer tie up your models for videos?
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No, you can still tie them up. The new ruling basically says that mild bondage is ok whereas severe or extreme bondage is not. Gags are not allowed in conjunction with bondage where all four limbs are restrained (i.e. most cases). You can still do whatever you want in your personal life of course which makes the whole thing a complete joke.

It is being rolled under the cover of protecting minors from learning about the terrible world of adult entertainment. Given that they can still access the same or harder content from everywhere else in the world though, it is utterly meaningless. It is just an excuse for this Government to continue with the hard-line anti-porn agenda that they have been pushing for some time.
 
First of all, I must say that though I am a foreigner, I have always maintained a positive view of the UK. A great nation with a long and complex history, full of awesome people who are really fun to hang out with. Any criticism expressed hereafter does not have any malicious intent, but is rather the expression of the utter disappointment of a friend who sees another friend's life taking the wrong turn.

With all that being said, I am appalled by this new law. It is persecution, plain and simple, and also borderline sexist judging from the details. I mean what the fuck is wrong with a "woman being in a dominant position"? All of a sudden, the Yankees' religious fundamentalists look like laughable buffoons since none of them managed to pass such laws on a federal level. The idiots who write these kind of stuff are dangerous for our personal freedom, and should be fought head-on through any legal means available.

Childrens' protection? Please. It is one thing to ban pornography from the public space (which I am in favour of), and another thing altogether to restrict the free access to one's personal fantasies within the safety of one's private home.

That said, censorship in the UK comes a long way. Historically, the British Isles are one of the places in Western Europe that had the toughest censorship policies. Remember the bans on movies like The Life of Brian, A Clockwork Orange, and the more recent NC713. But this seems to me like this new policy is cranking things up a level.
 
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There's going to be mixed feelings on this but I'm not really bothered by this regulation. If anything I think it'll help mitigate some of the wild stuff out there that probably needs to be swept under the rug more than it currently is now. Not that I have kids currently, but if I did... I wouldn't want them necessarily exposed to some of the radical stuff out there today, which I'm sure is part of the intent of the law. I'm not privy to every single detail about it, but it's my understanding that is the intention of the law. It wouldn't even really impact UK Tickling since he keeps his material tasteful. I think it's a little aggressive on the UK's part for regulating something like this, but its sending a message that I'd imagine may not be popular for some.
 
Ha. Like this is going to fly - legislate all you want, porn isn't going away. Censors have been pushing this "for the children" crap for a hundred years now, but it's the most thinly-veiled of excuses. Any good parent will keep tabs on a young child's internet access, or they're quickly going to run into things a lot worse than pornography. As always, this is about controlling the adult population. But trying to stop porn on the internet is kind of like ordering water not to be wet imo.
 
I can certainly see why some of those items are on the list.

Aggressive whipping
Urolagnia (toilet related sex)
Strangulation

In my opinion, that is some seriously fucked up shit, there. I'm a live and let live kind of guy, but when the thing that floats your boat becomes unhealthy and physically debasing, I'd say it's time to find a new thing.
 
What's the weirdest rule out of this porn restriction is the ban on 'female ejaculation'? WTF? This rule isn't only a prude one but also a misogynistic one. Women can't have their most intense orgasm and have it filmed. I guess it resembles urolagnia too much and that's their excuse (also nothing wrong with it btw, I wish more producers would make desperation tickle videos for instance). But we're adults not insecure minors so I still don't get it.

The internet taught me the anti-porn lobby is quite influential in the UK. Many Britons also fall for their propaganda, as most anti-porn people I met online were from the UK. I even saw a British documentary about 'the dangers of porn addiction' on our television once where they showed the portrait of grown-ass guys with the sexual maturity of a teen. By such broadcasts many people get misled by their fear for a 'possible erectile disfunction' or any of the other supposed downsides it might cause to a marginal minority.

I feel for any British producers/dommes/mistresses/etc... having to look out what they produce now. The young talents might still emigrate though but the ones with a settled name can't.
 
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DontAskJusTckle said:
I can certainly see why some of those items are on the list.

Aggressive whipping
Urolagnia (toilet related sex)
Strangulation

In my opinion, that is some seriously fucked up shit, there. I'm a live and let live kind of guy, but when the thing that floats your boat becomes unhealthy and physically debasing, I'd say it's time to find a new thing.
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Some people live for that stuff. Especially the recipients. There's tons of folks out there that would say the same about those who have sexualized tickling.

Honestly, I find myself against the U.K. and the rulings. What consenting adults do, on camera or off, is their business (in many ways, literally). To point a finger and say "That's sick!" while getting off on someone being tickled to insanity is a bit hypocritical.
 
I read about this last week and tbh, first person I thought of was Dave (Turtleboy). No gagging when all 4 limbs are tied is commonplace and the fact that the Govt through legislation can judge whether bondage is severe of extreme when in actual fact it is far from...that is totally ludicrous.

Stupid really...but I personally have seen this coming for some time. It's an invasion of civil liberties. What we want to watch and when should be up to us. Trying to bring in ill thought out laws and regulations under the guise of 'Protecting children' is absolute bollocks.

I can also vouch for C4S not accepting UK Debit cards.

Not right all this, not bloody right at all.

- Ash
 
P4E said:
I read about this last week and tbh, first person I thought of was Dave (Turtleboy). No gagging when all 4 limbs are tied is commonplace and the fact that the Govt through legislation can judge whether bondage is severe of extreme when in actual fact it is far from...that is totally ludicrous.

Stupid really...but I personally have seen this coming for some time. It's an invasion of civil liberties. What we want to watch and when should be up to us. Trying to bring in ill thought out laws and regulations under the guise of 'Protecting children' is absolute bollocks.

I can also vouch for C4S not accepting UK Debit cards.

Not right all this, not bloody right at all.

- Ash
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Hey P4E, are they still rejecting debit cards? C4S have assured me twice now that they haven't blocked any UK cards even though there are numerous accounts of it happening. If you (or any UK customer) finds their debit card blocked I would contact C4S and ask for an explanation since they are still running with the story that nothing has changed!

..and you're right, the porn regulation is an invasion of people's civil liberties. The child protection argument makes no sense whatsoever given that people can still access all of the same content from overseas. It's really targeted at porn producers and performers, rather than consumers - and looks very much like an attempt to force the industry out of the UK.
 
P4E said:
I read about this last week and tbh, first person I thought of was Dave (Turtleboy). No gagging when all 4 limbs are tied is commonplace and the fact that the Govt through legislation can judge whether bondage is severe of extreme when in actual fact it is far from...that is totally ludicrous.

Stupid really...but I personally have seen this coming for some time. It's an invasion of civil liberties. What we want to watch and when should be up to us. Trying to bring in ill thought out laws and regulations under the guise of 'Protecting children' is absolute bollocks.

I can also vouch for C4S not accepting UK Debit cards.

Not right all this, not bloody right at all.

- Ash
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I had brought up a point in another thread about how TwistedSmile.com, and some other websites, went offline almost immediately after 18 U.S.C. 2257 was expanded upon. The vague legalese made producers and models alike afraid of their personal info being released to anyone who asked, so they shut down to prevent as much fallout as possible. Other sites vanished, or were restructured, due to the DOJ's anti-obscenity initiative during the Bush administration (basically, the FBI was tasked to go witch hunting).

What I would like to see are countries like the U.S. and England putting those resources into finding child porn and slave trafficking organizations, rather than attacking those that follow the letter of the law. And I'm sure some people would say "Well, they're already doing that!". True, but not to the same, or even more extreme, extent. Why go after criminals that can hide in plain sight when it's far easier (and maybe more profitable) to hit the people that are visible?
 
cloudgazer2k said:
Some people live for that stuff. Especially the recipients. There's tons of folks out there that would say the same about those who have sexualized tickling.
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There's tons of folks out there that would say the same about those who french kiss or have premarital sex. And who cares? What other people say doesn't impact the legitimacy of what we say.

cloudgazer2k said:
Honestly, I find myself against the U.K. and the rulings. What consenting adults do, on camera or off, is their business (in many ways, literally). To point a finger and say "That's sick!" while getting off on someone being tickled to insanity is a bit hypocritical.
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I don't get off on "someone being tickled to insanity," so your argument is a straw man right from the start.

Secondly and more importantly, you seem to come from a posture that says if a person pursues sexual thrills from anything outside of mainstream sexual practices (such as foot worship, bondage, or tickling for example), said person cannot condemn any activity that's done in the pursuit of sexual fulfillment without being hypocritical, no matter how extreme. I find this line of thinking to be patently absurd. If this were true, then a pantyhose fetishist or a cross-dresser would have no business condemning necrophilia, shit-eating, or auto-erotic asphyxia. Because that would be....you know...."hypocritical."

The practices which I identified as "some serious fucked up shit," are all health hazards which cannot be safely performed. So my objection is not one of, "Hey, that's not standard mainstream sexual practice and hence I proclaim it as some seriously fucked up shit!" It's more along the lines of, "Hey that's some unhealthy, dangerous shit you've got going on there, and maybe it's time to rethink such pursuits."
 
DontAskJusTckle said:
There's tons of folks out there that would say the same about those who french kiss or have premarital sex. And who cares? What other people say doesn't impact the legitimacy of what we say.

I don't get off on "someone being tickled to insanity," so your argument is a straw man right from the start.

Secondly and more importantly, you seem to come from a posture that says if a person pursues sexual thrills from anything outside of mainstream sexual practices (such as foot worship, bondage, or tickling for example), said person cannot condemn any activity that's done in the pursuit of sexual fulfillment without being hypocritical, no matter how extreme. I find this line of thinking to be patently absurd. If this were true, then a pantyhose fetishist or a cross-dresser would have no business condemning necrophilia, shit-eating, or auto-erotic asphyxia. Because that would be....you know...."hypocritical."

The practices which I identified as "some serious fucked up shit," are all health hazards which cannot be safely performed. So my objection is not one of, "Hey, that's not standard mainstream sexual practice and hence I proclaim it as some seriously fucked up shit!" It's more along the lines of, "Hey that's some unhealthy, dangerous shit you've got going on there, and maybe it's time to rethink such pursuits."
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I can see how you may view one of my points as a sort of attack. It was the general "you", and I should have been clearer. My apologies.

Here's a few other points, one being that it hurts no one as long as boundaries aren't crossed and everyone is aware of the risks and makes an informed decision. However, once the agreement of respecting limits and stopping when told are no longer adhered to, then it becomes an issue. The other is that illegal and truly inhumane activities (necrophilia, like you mentioned before, bestiality, etc.) should be what gets targeted and attacked on a regular basis rather than what the U.K. is actively banning.
 
turtleboy said:
Hey P4E, are they still rejecting debit cards? C4S have assured me twice now that they haven't blocked any UK cards even though there are numerous accounts of it happening. If you (or any UK customer) finds their debit card blocked I would contact C4S and ask for an explanation since they are still running with the story that nothing has changed!

..and you're right, the porn regulation is an invasion of people's civil liberties. The child protection argument makes no sense whatsoever given that people can still access all of the same content from overseas. It's really targeted at porn producers and performers, rather than consumers - and looks very much like an attempt to force the industry out of the UK.
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Hey Dave, yeah man I tried to buy 2 clips, one from you and one from Tommy (Tickle Abuse), and my card was declined. As my credit card has expired and I cannot find the replacement (left it in my lounge and it's gone AWOL :/ ), I have to order a replacement purely for this purpose.

Tbh D, I see it as the same, as an attempt to force the industry from the UK...However, how many MP's and high level so-called Politicians will we see uncovered with a mass of porn on their computers? The ball is rolling with our MP's and it'll keep on rolling. I for one hope they're bought to justice. But sadly, we know they won't...as is the way with Politics especially with Tories, they get away with everything.

P.S. Dave, I want to send you a tenner for a drink as an Xmas pressie bud and as a small token of thanks for your fantastic work, you got a paypal or anything? I'd come and give you cash but you're too bloody far lol.
 
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