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Tickle Abuse RIP

Tenebrae said:
Of course, it's your privilege. But I think it was interesting, like I said~
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Ok I'll try to rewrite it. And add further.

I have 2 Tumbr pages. One for Tickling and one for Bimbofication. My BF also runs a Bimbofication blog. The stats are as follows.

My BF's Bimbofication blog- 25,000 Followers
My Bimbo blog: 15,000 Followers
My Tickling Blog: 500 followers

What makes HIS more follow worthy than mine? Well... he dedicates far more time to it. Every day he spends about 2-3 hours reblogging, doing follow backs, answering mail, taking part in community based discussions. And posts lots of hardcore sex. Me... I don't do much of this. Not to the degree he does anyway. My interest in Bimbofication is more of a clothing style/ sexy style... and it highlights basic manners and overall happiness that women and men today are lacking. (For those who care about such things.) And I love the "Bimbos" throughout Cinema. "Kelly Bundy" for example. But past those aspects... I get bored with most hardcore sex questions. As opposed to here where when I get a question I answer it with genuine enthusiasm and happiness. I <3 Tickling. And I spend hours here every day. And if not... I'm writing or thinking of creating something.It's what I'm hardcore about. But I spend more time here vs my Tickling tumblr blog for my Tickling needs etc. So BOTH of my tumblr blogs "suffer".

Someone mentioned here or somewhere that the TMF is a dinosaur now. But I feel its got far more depth and passion then say Instagram. And will outlast Instagram. AND tumblr. This site I believe was started because growing up most of us didn't have yet vcr's and couldn't record our favorite tickling moments on tv. And so we understand the importance of the TMF. Keeping all our files safe and sound. And in one place. Instagram for some people is basically the poor man's Vogue. A way for people to look cool.... and keep a personal diary.. yes. But... there's no depth to that I feel. It's MOSTLY vapid. And it won't last. So when people say forums like this are a dinosaur... the look may be... but the TMF is still HERE. And its NEVER going anywhere. I don't think when the next Generation comes around, Instagram will be here... Marketing will be done differently to showcase people's brands through hot models in a completely different way. And in regard to myself and tumblr... I don't think people would care if I deleted my blogs. Maybe 50 might. But it's because of the reblogs I have so many followers. Not my personal growth in how I look. I'm a dime a dozen in that regard. Zero value. That's a hard pill to swallow but I'm way past attention seeking for the sake of attention seeking. At the base of me lies a woman who just loves Tickling. And likes being sexy. Now... that doesn't make me any different than say a hardcore Pac Man lover. Just different interests.

So... when Tickling Companies sell their product.... essentially they are selling the human based reactions to tickling and Ler tickling skills. That is limited. And the customer reactions to the "product" treats the models like trading cards... Pokemon cards etc if you will.

Here'a fake example:

Jill Stein is

Ticklishness- +9
Ler Skills- -5
Beauty +7
Bondage skills +3
Personality -5
Nails +6
Sadism -6

When customers talk about the models they do so in such a way like...

"My Jill Stein card can tickle the hell out of your Rose Gold card".
"No way! My Rose Gold card would't suffer one bit. And Jill Stein isn't even that hot. But her +6 nails negates this and that of Rose+10 this and that. So let's see..." *throws down card"

I don't think people are trying to be mean ultimately... even concerning piracy. I just think that people are so proud of the cards they are holding... when up against other cards they try vehemently to defend them. And that results in very mean spirited comments towards the models, production companies etc. Piracy will be handled eventually I feel. And someone either needs to get Metallica on the phone... or just wait out the storm. It WILL happen... but how and when is the ultimate question. People are dying now because of lack of privacy. And its going to get worse before its better. But.... the wild west days of the internet are numbered. And maybe that's a good thing. And how does that affect Freedom Of Speech? We'll see. But people shouldn't have to commit suicide because one nut thinks humiliation is fun. Nor should any company have its profits taken away. Piracy though may very well be an unstoppable force. I just don't ultimately know. Will it... won't it... screw it! Make a completely different model.

Porn stars have said that amateurs are destroying the porn industry. Well... so is piracy and slimy producers. (I am not speaking about any producers HERE.) Just type in the realities of working in the porn industry. And you'll understand why if you don't already. So... now the sex industry as a whole are struggling. But by proxy human value is also taken away in the eyes of the entire population. The beauty of sex in all its different forms is now a pale shade of value. Something attainable every second of every day... for free. When lil old Grannies are becoming webcam models... just to buy their medication or whatever... that is telling of the economy.. and the vast and intricate customer demands out there. Dennis Hoff understands this.... which is why he has been able to expand his Bunny Ranch. He isn't going anywhere. Nor should he be.

But back to this topic. Tickling companies next step should be to band together. But can they with all the different personalities. And if they did... they would have to treat it like HBO or Netflix. Every hour dedicated to every different niche within tickling. (Although... good luck to the nose tickling niche finding an hour in their somewhere... Maybe that can be a special Midnight special or something Idk.) If tickling companies want to survive and not just give away their content for free... or at discount prices...they just have to rethink the model of how they sell. To combat piracy... to have room to showcase new competition willingly. And to meet customer and model demands.

If the TMF say said OK: We are starting a streaming service.... and it's going to be the same price as Netflix. Or more... even say 15.99 a month... or 8.99 a month... whatever the price is... UNLIMITED tickling videos for one price every month. Well... like Netflix, consumers complain about the lack of selection. (Which to me is crazy... it changes every month or so...) But... there are also different categories to think about here... M/f F/m M/m F/m FM/f. FM/m MM/m MMMMM/m FFFFF/m FFFFF/ mf. But let's stick with the basic here M/f, F/m MF/f, MF/m M/m F/f and Gang tickling. It can be done in the similar PROVEN WORKING style as Netflix... Or... can have 4-5 different channels. Either people would pay for the entire package... or say just M/f. And different body parts like feet or underarms. However they would set it up... would be FAR less confusing.

As a basically new consumer who has only bought a few tickling videos EVER. when I look at clips for sale. I get confused. Who do I trust to give me good content. Which that of in itself is a crazy question. Each model is different, and so is their ticklishness. So that negates itself right off the bat. But... I still would wonder well who has a good reputation. Which models might have good Ler skills... etc. But though.... if I have to take out my credit card over and over again.... its becomes frustrating. Which is why the companies are getting picked apart. If based on the Netflix model... I put in my credit card.... once a month... and I either choose what I want to watch.... and can skip out on to the next video if I don't like what I see... or if its a constant stream just wait until the scene is over and hope a good one is coming up. Can customers WAIT for a good scene to come around... I don't think so. So... again the Netflix model is the best option to consider. Imho.

But then what ALSO would be NICE... is to involve the community as a whole. These are the same customers these companies have had for around 20+ years. So... Say the TMF or whatever would hire a model to read the best story of the month. Per a poll. Or play audio files. Or showcase people who are willing to talk about gatherings.... thus boosting attendance. There HAS to be exposure. Not only for people to get people more comfortable within this fetish...but to help it grow and make new customers who want to buy the service. Its about expansion. They can't sell feathers. Feathers have zero value. But the love of tickling does... And MAYBE... they CAN make feathers have value... T shirt sales... lingerie... but those things are down the line. But my goodness... if I could own one darn thing with the word ticklish on it and not have to create it myself... wow that would be nice. Just because a person wouldn't wear say this t-shirt outdoors... doesn't mean they wouldn't wear it indoors. They would. I would love a coffee cup with the TMF brand on it.

And keep in mind... what works for men may not work for women. And if you want women's money.... you have to serve THEIR needs as well. For me... the only thing they enjoy about my content is my audios and sometimes my stories. One comment thus far about a video. So... its a mental aspect for them. Which I myself love. Which is why I do it. Something to think about.

Now... if all the producers sit down... and think about every aspect.... and think about how Netflix works... WHY it works... by next Christmas or a couple years from now... not only could they be making money again...but the consumers could be excited again. Happy again until new demands arise. And that bridge would be crossed when it arose.

And btw... I'm available for the job of Marketing Director lol ;)
 
Btw I want to add on a scene I'm thinking about.

There's a show called "Queer As Folk". (I LOVE this show... I've probably seen it now 10 times at least.) (Now streaming on Netflix.)

Anyway... in the last season the characters favorite club "Babylon" has a bomb go off. And the main character "Brian Kinney" rebuilds the club.

But... on opening night... no one shows up. Not even the hardcore club goers. Brian spent so much to make the club even better than it once was. So... why was no one there?

Well.. by the time the club reopened... other clubs had opened up. And every day that opening week Babylon lost money. Just to keep the lights on was VERY expensive. But... Brian had an idea...

The characters of Emmett and Ted were off exploring the new clubs that had opened. And one night they decided to or were walking past Babylon. I think they wanted to go get a "pity drink" for Brian. But when they walked up to Babylon there was a line around the block. They were flabbergasted.

What Brian had figured out was that if he payed people to stand in line... and hired Security personnel to keep watch over who could and couldn't come in... people would be curious and WANT the PERCEIVED unattainable entry into the club. And if they were let in... they were deemed "cool enough".

With writing this... I'm not saying to mislead the customers here. I'm saying repackage the same food on a fresh plate. (At least until you make back some profit.) And... give more and easier options.. That's may or may not include merchandising... or... gatherings say.... or WHATEVER. And make it EASIER for them to navigate. I think all of these customers are owed that if you want to continue having their loyalty. Or their cold, hard cash. Even McDonald's every 10 years give or take revamps their look and menu to get customers excited again.

So.. like I read so often... if this is just a hobby... well... what do you have to lose? Or.. be done with it and just make the clips free. But that would be a bit stupid if after all this money spent... to just give up and do that. Just rethink the model.

Most of you have the "brand loyalty" of your customers already. But if you don't rethink the model... someone else WILL. And that would really suck for all of your efforts all these years.
 
I really wanna tickle Jill Stein.

Hey Tommy, see if she'll do a post election video.
 
It amuses me that their seems to be only one definition of ticklish. That every person who doesn't react in the exact perfect way clearly they must not be ticklish and are faking it.
 
Pghtkltorture said:
It amuses me that their seems to be only one definition of ticklish. That every person who doesn't react in the exact perfect way clearly they must not be ticklish and are faking it.
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I know, right?
It's almost as if some people had no other experiences with "ticklish" people other than watching videos.
 
You do have the option of simply not buying any new tickleabuse videos...

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When people start complaining about video producers' content, I usually try to stay out of the discussion. Working in retail while I was in college made me kind of cynical about customer complaints, and even though that was over ten years ago (back when George Bush was president and most people had never even heard of Barack Obama), I still haven't quite gotten over the cynicism. Do customers have a right to complain? Sure. But during my retail time, I dealt with one too many customers who wanted to act like you had a personal vendetta against them just because one thing didn't go their way, and I guess it permanently colored the way I view customers and their complaints.

Take, for instance, people saying "Hey, why haven't you done any videos with Susan/Amy/Sugarface/Lulu/etc.? I loved her Bring her back!" If I were a video producer, I would be tempted to say, "Okay, sure! I'll just call up the Tickling Model Warehouse upstate and order a Susan/Amy/Sugarface/etc. She should be here in a couple of days, and the precise video you want should be available within a week. Thank you and have a nice day!"

:juggle:

Okay, I'm probably being snarkier than is appropriate. But like I said, my years in retail made me cynical about customer demands.
 
Well, you know what they say - "the customer is always right". Yeh, right.
 
As I said before, I'll never understand the insult-the-consumer business model. It seems counter-intuitive to me.
 
OSUchamps said:
If one feels their direct payday is overly demanding, perhaps one should rethink his or her vocation.
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I doubt that most of the people complaining are actual paying customers.
If they were, they'd stop buying. TA is still on top, after all. There's plenty of competition.
No one's forcing anyone to buy from one store or another.
 
OSUchamps said:
As I said before, I'll never understand the insult-the-consumer business model. It seems counter-intuitive to me.
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I have the funny feeling it started taking hold after the "insult the producer" feedback model became the norm.

I doubt that most of the people complaining are actual paying customers.
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This.
 
I'm not trying to argue who fired the first shot. A decorum of civility is expected on both sides, but arguably more so for the producer, since bad consumer relationships have more opportunity to hurt their business.
 
Maybe we can offer suggestions as to how "Tickle Abuse" can improve and what we miss instead of saying it sucks?
 
Tickle Abuse said that he carefully reads and considers note from customers that offer constructive critiques, so I don't think he's insulting his customer base. Someone else in this thread mentioned something about people complaining about things that have been explained many times before. An example of that would be the complaining about producers not using certain models that they once used in the past. It has been explained numerous time on here that tickling models typically don't stick around very long. If you see one you like, you'd probably better buy as many videos featuring that model as you can and enjoy her while she lasts, because she's probably going to be disappearing into obscurity before long. People like Addie Juniper who stick around for a long time and make a career out of it are the exception, not the norm. That model that you enjoyed watching back in 2012, 2009, or 2007 or in any other time prior to two years ago is probably long gone now. Heck, she may even be married, living in the suburbs, and taking her kids to extracurricular activities.
 
He's been around at least 9-10 years...Of course things aren't the same as they were....
 
indivision said:
Take, for instance, people saying "Hey, why haven't you done any videos with Susan/Amy/Sugarface/Lulu/etc.? I loved her Bring her back!" If I were a video producer, I would be tempted to say, "Okay, sure! I'll just call up the Tickling Model Warehouse upstate and order a Susan/Amy/Sugarface/etc. She should be here in a couple of days, and the precise video you want should be available within a week. Thank you and have a nice day!"
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So, if I understand your point, you're saying that Lulu doesn't work with Tickling Model Warehouse?
 
indivision said:
It has been explained numerous time on here that tickling models typically don't stick around very long. If you see one you like, you'd probably better buy as many videos featuring that model as you can and enjoy her while she lasts, because she's probably going to be disappearing into obscurity before long. People like Addie Juniper who stick around for a long time and make a career out of it are the exception, not the norm. That model that you enjoyed watching back in 2012, 2009, or 2007 or in any other time prior to two years ago is probably long gone now. Heck, she may even be married, living in the suburbs, and taking her kids to extracurricular activities.
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That is very true, but then you have the guys who'll complain about the fetish models who stick around because they complain that their in too many clips. I swear it always seems like producers can't win. My clips for sale isn't up yet, but I have long since told myself you can't please them all, so just try your darnedest to please as many as possible. Someone is always going to complain about something.
 
indivision said:
It has been explained numerous time on here that tickling models typically don't stick around very long. If you see one you like, you'd probably better buy as many videos featuring that model as you can and enjoy her while she lasts, because she's probably going to be disappearing into obscurity before long. People like Addie Juniper who stick around for a long time and make a career out of it are the exception, not the norm. That model that you enjoyed watching back in 2012, 2009, or 2007 or in any other time prior to two years ago is probably long gone now. Heck, she may even be married, living in the suburbs, and taking her kids to extracurricular activities.
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This is very true. I contacted Jade who hasnt been in a Tickleabuse video in maybe 2 years now and asked if she would come to Detroit to do a clip and offered her a pretty generous amount to do it, and she asked for almost double saying it isn't worth her while to do these type of clips if not for meeting that kind of rate. So yeah, models find more lucrative things to do, which is another reason your favorite girl isn't in clips anymore lol
 
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