Nice insight into your mind there. Who the fuck pays for porn anyway? You'd have to be a sap, it's everywhere for free.
People who want to support a dying business
Nice insight into your mind there. Who the fuck pays for porn anyway? You'd have to be a sap, it's everywhere for free.
Nice insight into your mind there. Who the fuck pays for porn anyway? You'd have to be a sap, it's everywhere for free.
People that want to see their favorite producers stay in business; be able to afford to hire new models; keep popular models coming back and making more than 1 video; create new and classic videos; pay for better equipment or afford to replace equipment when shit happens; and create a consistent flow of content that keeps making dreams and fantasies come true. Among other things ..Nice insight into your mind there. Who the fuck pays for porn anyway? You'd have to be a sap, it's everywhere for free.
The fact of the matter that most people are ignoring is that for most, it's not about brand loyalty or anything like that. It's about novelty. And when you are in a business that has to compete with people who create amateur versions that can be just as good if not better than the paid products, on top of the fact that you have to contend with piracy, there isn't much you can do about it. You can't make a living off of everything you enjoy doing, it's a sad fact of reality. Either you have to accept that or you don't. The reason many video companies are so successful on the internet is that they have accepted those things and have found other ways of monetizing their brand. It's simple economics, if people give for free that for which you want to charge, they will win out in the end. It's not what a lot of people want to hear, but it's the truth.
Wanna make money? Get a real job, hippies!
Nice insight into your mind there. Who the fuck pays for porn anyway? You'd have to be a sap, it's everywhere for free.
Based on your eloquent response, of which I was NOT expecting due to your original response to my OP, your dick and your balls are probably amazing and so is your mind.
Economics is rarely simple. Also, there aren't many "amateur" competitors or people making videos and giving them away for free. Almost all of it is people taking producer's content and "sharing" it. A lot of these people sharing it only do it on a quid pro quo basis. You don't have something to trade, they won't talk to you. It's like a quasi-currency people use to barter for illegal content. I've even seen some of the bigger sharers put their own watermark on content they have pirated and lose their shit when someone else uploads or shares it. They literally rant about all the "hard work" they went through and that they "don't appreciate others stealing their work" for all that content they pirated. Unreal.
Are you seriously saying that there aren't people who post non-professional tickling videos online? Listen I understand you're trying to defend your bottom line but this is the real world. You won't stop the pirates, either learn to live with them or don't. If you don't and take your ball and go home, there will always be someone to take your place. It's the nature of business, you're just angry that you've made this your livelihood and don't like that it's affecting you, but like we saw in the music industry, decrying the immorality and angrily lashing out at everyone who disagrees with you only makes you look bad and the pirates and people who post tickling videos for fun will continue doing so unperturbed. I'm not making a judgment on it good or bad, I'm merely saying that's the way things are.
Are you seriously saying that there aren't people who post non-professional tickling videos online? Listen I understand you're trying to defend your bottom line but this is the real world. You won't stop the pirates, either learn to live with them or don't. If you don't and take your ball and go home, there will always be someone to take your place. It's the nature of business, you're just angry that you've made this your livelihood and don't like that it's affecting you, but like we saw in the music industry, decrying the immorality and angrily lashing out at everyone who disagrees with you only makes you look bad and the pirates and people who post tickling videos for fun will continue doing so unperturbed. I'm not making a judgment on it good or bad, I'm merely saying that's the way things are.
No, read what I said. There aren't "many". Most of the producers are charging for their content. That is the difference between professionals and amateurs.
Second, I'm going to let your comments slide because this thread is 18 pages deep and you probably skimmed. I have stated that I accept piracy is here to stay and that businesses come and go. That does not mean that there are not effective ways to limit piracy on your own product. We've been doing this longer than some of the people on this board have been alive. I think we kinda know what we're doing. And finally, don't say your not making a judgment, when you absolutely are making a judgement on me and other producers for having a beef with pirates. By your words we should just sit back, shut up and be happy we're still around. I don't think so.
The angry and toothless condescension really isn't helping your case here. I didn't make a judgment and your rabid inferences don't help either. You're more than free to try to protect your product however you like, but getting mad isn't going to solve your problem, if anything it's going to make things worse. The immature lashing out by a number of the models and producers on this thread make me and I'm sure a number of other consumers less likely to want to help you guys out. You're only hurting yourself and not actually solving the problem.
So, what's your solution?
The angry and toothless condescension really isn't helping your case here. I didn't make a judgment and your rabid inferences don't help either. You're more than free to try to protect your product however you like, but getting mad isn't going to solve your problem, if anything it's going to make things worse. The immature lashing out by a number of the models and producers on this thread make me and I'm sure a number of other consumers less likely to want to help you guys out. You're only hurting yourself and not actually solving the problem.
So, what's your solution?
Words of the apologist. People like you are not going to help us. I know your type. Early 20 something that thinks they know how world works. You sit comfortably on the side lines and allow the status quo because "that's the way it is." This is why many of us rant. It's a healthy catharsis. We know you're not going to listen. Try producing something of your own and have people pirate it regularly and then come talk to me. I've dealt with your kind and a few of you have become producers. When you feel the bite of piracy, your tune changes.
Oh good, more angry, impotent condescension. Ranting only makes you look angrier and makes people less likely to want to help you out. Your problems are not my problems and mine are not yours, but the market I'm in does not rely on an easily reproduced medium catering to a niche audience that competes with people who put up similar videos for fun and for free. You're admitting that the only reason that you're angry is because it affects you personally, but no one forced you into this market, you decided to do it yourself. Now that you're in, you can either do what you can to protect what you make or not. If you're unhappy with it, do something about it. Getting mad does nothing but make you come off as immature.
Most of us are doing something about it, but anyone who's business is affected by piracy has every right to rant about it once in a while. It seems bizarre to enter a thread like this and then complain that a producer should dare to be pissed off about having their stuff stolen. For many of us, myself included, it is the scale of piracy that is the problem not that it exists at all. I can ignore a couple of my clips appearing on pirate sites but when people upload hundreds or even thousands of your clips, edit them, change the titles etc, it is a problem. Since there isn't a magic bullet, the only solutions at the minute are to scale down, raise costs and take down pirated content wherever we find it.
You mentioned the music industry earlier but they respond to piracy by paying corporate legal firms large sums of money to work around the clock and take down copyrighted content wherever they find it. They will also occasionally try to make an example by filing huge lawsuits against individual downloaders. They certainly don't smile politely and get on with it, and they make a lot more money than your average tickling site. If you think their attitude has softened in any way, just try uploading anything owned by Sony to Youtube and see how long it stays there.
Also, with regard to competing against people posting similar content for fun and for free, we really aren't. Firstly, that is a quite different market and people tend to seek out clips according to their varied personal tastes - hence Producer A does not lose customers if Joe Bloggs posts a clip of him tickling his girlfriend as they are quite different. Secondly, as LGZ pointed out, there is very little actual amateur content posted for free (scour the vids section on here and see how much you can turn up). Most amateur couples or individuals will post a couple of free clips and after gaining some interest, will decide to open a store and start selling it. Where amateur content does turn up for free, it has often been pirated already...it's just that people don't always realise that. You will often find contributors on here who decide to stop posting personal clips or artwork because they find it posted elsewhere without their permission.
Oh good, more angry, impotent condescension. Ranting only makes you look angrier and makes people less likely to want to help you out. Your problems are not my problems and mine are not yours, but the market I'm in does not rely on an easily reproduced medium catering to a niche audience that competes with people who put up similar videos for fun and for free. You're admitting that the only reason that you're angry is because it affects you personally, but no one forced you into this market, you decided to do it yourself. Now that you're in, you can either do what you can to protect what you make or not. If you're unhappy with it, do something about it. Getting mad does nothing but make you come off as immature.
I'm noticing a lot of you people, here and elsewhere, have this bizarre "Aww, what are ya gonna do?! Gonna quit?!?! C'mon, fucking quit, I dare ya. Quit!!!" response to everything being said.
Gonna take a shot in the dark here... do you have strong feelings about "saturation" with your tickle porn?
Gotta say, lots of anger from people who aren't making lots of money from the profession they've chosen. I'm not daring people to quit, but if they're that annoyed by these problems then they're in the wrong industry. I don't have strong feelings about anything in my porn. Often times I prefer the amateur stuff anyway. But it's funny how you're all trying to make it seem like it's the problem of people who won't pay you for stuff they get for free anyway... But that's the peril of getting into a business catering to a niche and competing with people who give it away for free. People are under no obligation to pay you, if they want to, it's their choice. Piracy is going to happen, people are going to watch the pirated flicks. It's the nature of the beast. And calling me an idiot or pitifully attempting to insult me isn't going to increase your profits. You're denying the real world and acting like the people telling you the truth you don't want to hear are the bad guys. We're not, you're taking it out on us because you're mad and it's honestly immature and fruitless.
Well you see, stupid, is that they're not supposed to be "giving it away for free", is the thing. In order to get it legally they are under obligation to get it. Like in the midst of all these "hard truths" you're laying down? You're really just going "But I am gonna post it wherever I feel like, I don't understand the problem!"
Like don't get anyone wrong, I think everyone is very much in the know that "in the real world", bottom feeder shitstains like yourself are just going to gleefully go "Nope! Gonna take that shit and upload it wherever I see fit!". They're just explaining to you why it's not very productive in order to keep making more of it.
You're not breaking new ground or shaking anyones worldview, we'll all aware dead-eyed cretins like yourself will continue to be human garbage with great joy. It's just that maybe....not be dogshit every so often?
Man, just so much pent up aggression at someone who's never illegally "uploaded" anything in his life. Nice pathetic attempt at spreading a lie though! It's not that I don't understand the problem, it's that it's not a problem that can be solved how you want it to. Can you take the energy from this temper tantrum and bring it elsewhere, like investing it in your business? Of course not, you'd rather throw impotent insults at me because you think that I pirate stuff and post it online, which couldn't be further from the truth. Seriously this is not helping you, grow up please and get out of denial.
Man, just so much pent up aggression at someone who's never illegally "uploaded" anything in his life.