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Tickle for fun, not harm!

Seriously? I think you folks need to get off your "moral" high horses

Is not abusing someone just to get your rocks off really a "moral high horse"?
WTF do you consider unacceptable?
 
I think some here may fear a tickle halocaust x)

Now that would be awesome!

In all seriousness, I've been into tickling since childhood, mostly giving it but getting it too. I've known people who've freaked out being tickled, hated it, etc. And honestly I've never understood the people who compare it to rape or assault, etc. Now I've tickled just about anything that can walk or crawl, and often in merciless ways, because I enjoy doing that. I've had people hit me, kick me lol, gfs get mad, you name it. But it's tickling. I've also been tickled against my will or after I've said enough, or no, and while that's been very intense, it's not like I've run off to press charges.

It's great when a lee is into it, but honestly it's intensely exciting when they're not too. That's how most of us lers started probably, tickling friends, siblings, etc. in childhood. Heck there's millions of people who like to tickle that don't have the fetish, but love just tormenting someone with it. It's just how it is.
 
We're discussing two different things here. What I think was shocking was the idea that "you can do anything to a person as long as you can get away with it". Granted, I am sure that a lot of people think this way (which is why crime occurs in the first place, otherwise we'd live in a crime-free society), but that does not make it any more right from a moral standpoint.

Then, there is the issue of non-consensual tickling. We've all been there, either in childhood or adulthood, tickling someone against their will. I read articles about tickling being used as a form of bullying, but even without going to such extremes, it happens. That did not necessarily lead to a trauma for the "victim", and IMO does not warrant the label of "sexual assault" or whatever. Yet it is obviously not right.
 
Whoa, who are you to decide what is or isn't traumatizing?? Especially when one experiences it as a young kid. Might I suggest the very reason some of us developed the fetish was a way to cope with traumatic experiences?

There's sort of a bare minimum basic standard of human decency that entails not touching people against their will.
 
It's great when a lee is into it, but honestly it's intensely exciting when they're not too.

Totally agree. I'm salivating at the thought as I write this. But I have to say with a wrench of regret that if the Lee "not being into it" means that they vehemently refuse consent (or would if given the chance), but the Ler goes ahead anyway, then we've Crossed the Line.
 
Someone once told me that as long as they are being paid well and compensated, pushing one past their limits is justified.

Heartless, eh? How's that working for ya?


If you don't know the individual personally, like a random escort, why would it matter if they are pushed past their limits? Also how can one prove they were assaulted or raped if the tickling doesn't leave any physical marks if done in a soft, gentle yet unbearably intense way?

Are you kidding?


I think some might be overestimating the lasting effects of tickling someone beyond their limits. do you know or have heard of anyone being permanently traumatized from such an experience?

Yes. Happens every day. Most of us here are familiar with nearly every facet of tickling and we've read about accounts of tremendous cruelty here and there because we run across them in our searches every now and then.
The point is not whether or not you can get away with it. The point is that you come off sounding like a sociopath.
I'm curious...were you ever cruel to animals as a child?


...perhaps they might be a little bewildered or disoriented right afterwards but they'll forget quickly and move on. for an escort who might be exposed to other far more harsh treatments, like being slapped or choked or having odd shaped objects inserted into them, tickling to the point of breaking down might be the most enjoyable thing they could be subjected to.

Delusions, anyone?


...you are vile

Agreed.

EDIT: Right after I posted this the song "Treat her like a lady" came on the radio. How fitting.
 
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Do you not see how messed up you are? Paying someone doesn't give you the right to tickle them if they didn't agree to it. If they agree to be tickled past their limit, that's different. That's fine. But if they don't agree, or don't know what you're planning? That's disgusting. Just because you don't know them that doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want to then for your own sick pleasure.
 
Take your own advice if you're advocating tickle torturing someone even if they don't want to be tickled, and view people as objects instead of as people.
 
As much as I love tickling a 'lee absolutely silly, I find it much more enjoyable when the 'lee is consenting and getting pleasure from it as well.
 
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