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Dream of Cost Effective Tickling Via Clip Store Shot (written as a brain dump)

kcantankerous

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Hello,

One of my long running fantasies was a potential win/win situation. I would create a clip store in which the sole purpose would give me the opportunity to break even on my fetish activities. You folks that follow my posts know that I have recently been paying for sessions. I am grateful for that opportunity, but as you can imagine it is not cheap.

I have been thinking of ways to either supplement my income, or find a way to bring down the cost of feeding my fetish. I thought about either doing a clip store or a membership site. The goal of this endeavor would be to break even on my tickling desires. However, in order to do that, I would need customers. To get customers, I'd have to produce good content. I'd rate my tickling skills as slightly above average (since I have the fetish, and I've had quite a bit of practice recently).

The areas where my plan falls apart are legion. The biggest hurdle that I can see are filming and editing. In my fantasy, I imagined that I'd set up a fixed camera that I could manipulate to get various angles. If I was tickling a lady's feet, I'd position the camera to show the soles, then move it when I tickled the tops, and so forth. However, lighting would present a problem. Then there is the thorny task of getting my videos at a clip store or something to that effect. Hosting, if I were to set up a membership site.

Sourcing the models would be easier thanks to the one's I have meet thus far. However, the rates for videos would be more expensive than private sessions. Then I thought, what if I just passed the sales clips beyond break even (the selling platform, equipment, editor, model rate - hopefully subsidized since they'd make it back through the royalties from the video they were in, and my time wouldn't be priced in as it is compensated by the ability to tickle them).

Even if the models agreed to such an arrangement (hard to fathom) my time would still be a cost. I have a full-time job, so finding a way to make a viable avenue to break even would be difficult. Not to mention, the low cost of the individual clips would mean I'd have to pump out an average of a clip a day. My fetish is strong, but not that for that amount of reps in a short period.

Assuming many of the pie in the sky fantasy aspects were viable, the edifice would break down by the shear numbers I'd have to produce to hit that break even point. Cheap clips would be nice, but what's to stop them from ending up for free on Pornhub or Youtube?

Then I wonder if a channel might be a better alternative step. However, finding enough advertisers to get it to break even would again be a Gordian's Knot. It doesn't make a lot of sense unless you plan on scaling it to be profitable is the conclusion I've reached. After this mental gymnastics I decided that doing private (unfilmed) sessions as I have been doing, is my best bet.

Anyone dabbled with this or similar fantasies?

Thanks,

K
 
I wouldnt pay to see a lardass male with average tickling skills. Would rather pay what I do now to see my stuff implented with the best tickler and tormentor around.
 
Maybe you can make a deal with a producer of tickle content where you pay them for a filmed tickle session with one of their models. The filmed session could be used as a try out. If the producer determines the film is worth bringing you back (at no cost or payment to you) and they only need to pay the model, then you could have free tickle sessions. You will not have to invest in any equipment, or clips store.
 
I've read this like 3 times and am still not sure what you're getting at; you want to essentially open a store, but less for profit, and more as a way to refill a "model wallet" to be able to afford you more opportunities to keep paying girls to make the videos? That pretty much just sounds like what most clip stores do to begin with.

I think you're getting at something like I have set up, a private site people can access to for a membership fee. I use a password protected Squaresoft site and a Patreon page for memberships, not a flawless system but has worked out well enough. That said, not every thing you put up is going to get you enough cash to just keep financing itself, at best you'll need to hope pledges stay with it (do not hand out content or password without payment upfront, Patreon allows anyone to subscribe, get content, and delete their backing without ever paying a cent).

You're in no way going to be able to make a tickle production outfit a turn-key operation the way you described it, though. At best you might be able to do like me and get a personal blog with stuff on it that people can pay for access to, but as fair as a self-sustaining, little-to-no investment, models willing to help you with no hassle type of service? I can't conceive of that every happening. At best, some people might help offset some cost of stuff you already enjoy and intended to do.
 
Hello Comfort,

I was thinking about what I know your set up to be when I posted. I just want to tickle cute ladies at low financial cost to me. You hit it on the head perfectly. I don't want to go broke feeding my fetish. Some type of members only,Only Fans, or patrons set up seems like a good angle.

If there were producers in the Austin area, I'd try be willing to pay a monthly fee to then tickle the models for the video shoots. The goal would be to feed the peaks and valleys of my fetish at a capped rate (preferable free).

I pay about $250/hr and have maybe two sessions a month. A grand if the month has a fetish party involved. To feed my fetish, a two hour session a week would suffice (during the peaks), but would make me broke.

Anyways, I like some of the ideas put forth. My skin doesn't translate well on camera, but I can keep my mouth shut, and tickle. Camera angles and such are not my forte, so that wouldn't bode well for producers to use me.

Thanks,

K
 
You could probably get a significant chunk of your costs compensated, provided you did invest a bit into decent equipment to make it worth watching. It seems like you already have enough income to maybe hold back on a couple of sessions and get a hold of some mid-range camera and lighting, and you could probably start something and try to build it up.
 
Hey Comfort,

Thanks for the suggestions. Never considered a membership dynamic before. other than the lee (assuming you are the tickler, are you a one man operation?

We can DM if you prefer.

Thanks,

K
 
I'm beginning to think my dream my be feasible. I imagine non nude (swimsuit and such) tickling. I'd film it in my bedroom. Maybe ten minute clips from an hour and a half session.

I'd half to charge minimal since I was thinking of 4 sessions a month, and sometimes as low as two. I think I might hit a niche though. I don't mind if I have to pay out of pocket per month (after initial investment recoup) south of $50" a month is what I'd hope.

Thanks

L
 
So here’smy number ine pet peeve with all tickling clips/stores/chanbels; you all seem to focus on the attractiveness of the models, and use it as a way to get your fingers on/in them. So often though, it’s a very unattractive/creepily old dude tickling 18 to 21 year olds. Sorry, but it would be nice if the Lers were equally attractive.

Now I haveno idea what the OP looks like, but this is my biggest irritation.
 
Sorry, but it would be nice if the Lers were equally attractive.

I am a straight guy and I also prefer when the 'ler is attractive, even if it is a male one. And I absolutely cannot stand this balaclava thing they all want to put on their face. Given however that 99% of the customer base is straight and male, I am not sure what the potential would be for a store whose main male tickler would be extremely attractive.

Tommy from TA is a handsome man, in my opinion. So is the guy from Tickling in Russia; there's an exotic quality to his charm.

Were you referring to this "special offer" thing when a customer sometimes is invited to take part? If so, here's an idea: why not let the models pick their tickler? Let's say a producer opens a spot to invite a customer, but instead of letting the highest bidder in, he collects all the interested guys' pictures and shows them to his models. They then pick their favorites and the lucky guy(s) get a call~
 
One of my long running fantasies was a potential win/win situation

You are vastly over-estimating the amount of money you're going to make as a new studio. I've been doing this for four years and I still have to flip a coin every month to see if I get paid. The three best months I've ever had, I topped $250. Most of the time I earn between $50-$100, but there's usually a few months out of the year where I don't sell enough clips and it has to roll over to the next month.

And that's as a guy doing what you claim to want to do; average production values, no-frills camera work, attractive girls, and solid tickling. How do I know my tickling is solid? Because I have well over a thousand followers across Instagram, Tumblr, and Pornhub and I get a fairly decent amount of praise. (Note that I said "praise", not "money").

Sorry, but it would be nice if the Lers were equally attractive.

It would be nice, yes. But there's a couple of pretty good non-I-wanna-get-my-jollies reasons why the bulk of us don't use attractive 'lers. I know I personally won't risk using anyone else as a tickler unless I know beforehand that they're at least as good as I am, especially if there's money involved. A lot of us don't even do F/F shoots because they cost too much (and again, if either of the girls is a shitty tickler we've wasted money).

At this point in my "career", I've built up enough of a catalog that sales from each year are greater than the operating cost of hiring new models... but even then, given my initial investment I won't be able to hire anyone new for at least the next two years in order to actually be profitable (...which I'm actually seriously considering). We're at the point where people are bitching that we don't use shotgun mics, a halfway decent one of which will cost you $700. A bare-bones lighting rig? $200. Camera? $500-$800. You are not gonna turn enough of a profit from all the clips produced via a single session with a model, let alone a single clip, to come anywhere near that. Especially not if just getting the girl in the door costs you a few hundred.

As a point of reference, I worked with an absolutely smokin' Instagram model in 2016. She had thousands of followers, many of whom wanted to see her do tickling videos. She cost a few hundred all told, both in session fees as well as a motel/gas for me to get down to SoCal to work with her. She sold like wildfire (relatively speaking), eventually turning a profit. As of today, she's made me roughly $150 over what I paid to hire her.

Yes, read that again. An utterly gorgeous, deathly ticklish model with a large fanbase that was ready to actually pay for her content made me $150 after a year and a half. Her debut video, "Mya is Ticklish", has sold more copies across all formats than any other video I've produced. Would you like to know how many that is? Stop reading and take a wild guess. I'll wait.

Got your guess? The answer is 23. My top-selling video of all-time has sold 23 copies. If you, as you say, plan to charge "the bare minimum" for a ten-or-so-minute video, assuming you use Clips4Sale, you're looking at around $7.99 for a clip. In order for you to make even half of the $500 you're quoting, you'll need to sell ~50 copies of that clip (C4S takes 40% of your sale). That's... not gonna happen.

Not trying to discourage you, but this is the reality of a bottom-of-the-barrel producer. Start cheap and stay cheap. I've lost money on a girl I got two hours' worth of content out of for $80 after her promo thread on this forum ballooned to two pages' worth of people begging for nylon content with her. (Said content was produced - and has sold almost no copies. I will never produce nylon videos again).
 
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