... seriously?
There's a reason Octopus is where they are and Solemates guy is where he is...his reasoning here is illuminating.
... seriously?
Solipsism is a helluva drug.
Case in point. You JUST answered your own question. Sometimes I wonder if half of you even think through what you’re typing.
Producers use scenarios and models that are making money. Clearly I don’t like Octopus but I’m in the minority on that one but I’m not sitting here wondering why he exists like you obviously are. Maybe those models you don't like vastly outsold the ones that did and you’re just too closed-minded to understand that. I mean, baby oil and hairbrushes disgust me but you don’t see me sitting here wondering why videos are full of them and accusing producers of being idiots insisting on putting out videos that “nobody” (IE, me) likes. Use your fucking brains, people.
Really? The only ones I've ever heard admit that they do are you, Sidious, and Tommy. Last Laugh (I think? I'd have to go back and check) said that even when he broke the Top 10 on Clips4Sale he only got a few extra hundred a month. I mean, I live in California. I'd have to clear three grand in sales just to pay my rent.
I think you're assuming everyone gets the same traffic and throughput that you do. I certainly don't. My store gets as many hits in a month as you get in a day in spite of my Preview threads here getting thousands of views. Even when I was advertising on the sidebar it didn't bring in that kind of traffic.
Now, you could totally say "has it occurred to you that your stuff just isn't any good?", but I'd offer two points to counter that. One, that as people keep pointing out, tickling is a niche, limited market. If people are spending all of their money at your studio, they're not going to buy from anyone else. Two, I have nearly a thousand followers on Instagram. People who are obsessed enough with my stuff to Like every post I make, and in some cases go back and Like all six hundred posts in my history, or send me creepy messages, or any number of a hundred other things. I'm pretty sure that unless these people are complete idiots, there is enough of a quality to my material to engage users. If it wasn't any good, this wouldn't be happening. And yet, none of these people think it'd be a good idea to drop me a fiver every once in a while. If even ten percent of my Instagram followers bought one clip a month my sales would skyrocket over a hundredfold.
I mean, I've literally produced the exact content that people posted on this forum that they wanted to see, and pointed those people directly to it and they still didn't buy it. I can show you the threads and the sales figures to back that up, too.
But yeah, maybe my stuff's just crap and these guys'll Like anything with toes in it. All the more reason for me to pack it in and call it a day. But I still think you, turtleboy, have a skewed idea of what it's like to operate in today's market. You got in on the ground floor and built a customer base when your only competition was Jeff, Elliot, and that chick who ran Solefully Yours and since people would rather cut off an arm than try something new, they'll be your customers until the end of time.
A couple of things to add…
With only a hundred thousand or so tickle videos having been released and at least several dozens of possible tickling scenarios why does it seem producers are repeating the same scenarios.
When I find a model that I enjoy, I don’t care if she’s been in 20 – 30 videos, I want more.
If she’s retired bring her back I don’t care if it’s been 5 years and she’s moved on.
On the other hand if I have see a model more than a dozen times and she still does not suit my taste, why do you keep using her?
Get someone new. If I’m not a fan I can’t imagine other people are buying her videos.
But, you wanna talk about taste being subjective? Comfort Eagle's been mentioning Octopus a few times now as a new guy that's doing okay, so I went and checked his studio out. Of all the creepy, cheaply-produced, skeevy crap I've ever seen, that's some of the worst. I wouldn't pay that guy a dime for his content. But, that said, I'm not the kind of narcissistic asshole
A couple of things to add…
With only a hundred thousand or so tickle videos having been released and at least several dozens of possible tickling scenarios why does it seem producers are repeating the same scenarios.
When I find a model that I enjoy, I don’t care if she’s been in 20 – 30 videos, I want more.
If she’s retired bring her back I don’t care if it’s been 5 years and she’s moved on.
On the other hand if I have see a model more than a dozen times and she still does not suit my taste, why do you keep using her?
Get someone new. If I’m not a fan I can’t imagine other people are buying her videos.
I think this thread has only proven that there is a group of folks who have decided their personal preferences are no longer being served. And that fact may well have nothing to do with the material which is currently being produced and made available via different outlets.
On the subject of C4S, What I've noticed with them is that they keep open tickling stores that haven't updated since.....2007....2009...2010?? Why is this?? If a company/producer decides to pack it in, then their store should be closed up. Or, if they aren't updating their content in a timely matter, they shouldn't waste people's time with occupying a space on C4S.
On the subject of C4S, What I've noticed with them is that they keep open tickling stores that haven't updated since.....2007....2009...2010?? Why is this?? If a company/producer decides to pack it in, then their store should be closed up. Or, if they aren't updating their content in a timely matter, they shouldn't waste people's time with occupying a space on C4S. This is where the hobbyist should be separated from the serious producers wanting to provide tickling content. Of the newer tickling producers that have come onto the scene, the one I've liked is Random Sole Encounters. I like his video work, he has really nice looking ticklee's (he's even tickled his aunt and sister, both are nice looking). He doesn't go nuts on the tickling, the ticklee's seem to like his personality even though they're tied up to be tickled.
It's interesting because C4S has always had a rule that stores should update at least monthly or risk having their store shut down - they clearly just don't bother to enforce it. It makes sense when you think about it though since they are still taking 40% sales from each store, and a lot of (particularly larger) stores will continue to make some sales even if they stand dormant for months or years. I guess C4S see the logic in leaving stores open as all those small sales each month probably amount to a lot when you consider all the thousands of 'dead' stores.
And C4S was the be-all-end-all. ....
From my own journey as a producer of tickle videos I can share what I have observed:
1. Repetitive Models: During the first few years of production it seemed so easy to find girl next door types who had never done any fetish work and did the gig for fun/spare money vs making it a career. In recent years most of the interest I received are from full time fetish models who have worked for several fetish studios. What caused that shift? I'm not sure.
Now you take issue with other people even discussing C4S - did you have a preferred website you'd like them to talk about instead?
Exactly. And unfortunately that issue has been debated and discussed on this website for many years. A lot of studios have had several models that quit due to that exact problem. Some models have actually lost their real world jobs because of it. I actually don't understand how that is legal but whatever.I think you may have answered your own question. You're wondering why the girl next door types don't do fetish videos anymore and why the industry is slowly being over run by fetish models. But then you mentioned how easy it is for YouTube and pirate sites nowadays. I think that's why the girls next door don't do it anymore. Every video that anyone makes ends up on Pornhub eventually. So the girls next door that are only doing it for extra money don't want their coworkers at the mortgage company or law firm where they work to see them on Pornhub, YouTube, Dailymotion, etc. being strapped down and tickled, having their toes sucked or whatever. Before pirate sites became a big problem these videos would most likely only be seen by a small number of people. Basically the people who buy them. Now millions can see a video whether they purchased it or not so there's a greater chance that someone they know will see it.
Exactly. And unfortunately that issue has been debated and discussed on this website for many years. A lot of studios have had several models that quit due to that exact problem. Some models have actually lost their real world jobs because of it. I actually don't understand how that is legal but whatever.
I just find it amusing that it happens to be the site that people focus their efforts on. But really, keep trying.
On the subject of C4S, What I've noticed with them is that they keep open tickling stores that haven't updated since.....2007....2009...2010?? Why is this??
I think you may have answered your own question. You're wondering why the girl next door types don't do fetish videos anymore and why the industry is slowly being over run by fetish models. But then you mentioned how easy it is for YouTube and pirate sites nowadays. I think that's why the girls next door don't do it anymore. Every video that anyone makes ends up on Pornhub eventually. So the girls next door that are only doing it for extra money don't want their coworkers at the mortgage company or law firm where they work to see them on Pornhub, YouTube, Dailymotion, etc. being strapped down and tickled, having their toes sucked or whatever. Before pirate sites became a big problem these videos would most likely only be seen by a small number of people. Basically the people who buy them. Now millions can see a video whether they purchased it or not so there's a greater chance that someone they know will see it.
...because it's the largest overall supplier of tickling material and the site that most producers use? It was also in the question I was responding to. I don't really get where you're going with this tbh.