Producers: When Models Get Camera Shy Post-Shoot

ThePurpleQuill · Oct 1, 2018

This is a question directed towards producers, but is open to all who wish to ask or answer.

Tickling is a most peculiar line of work to the mainstream public, as can be noted. Being part of a fetish shoot, let alone owning your own production studio, probably isn't something you want your parents, friends, or children stumbling on, prompting many to hide their identities if they are able to. However, it must arise that some models who participated in such shoots inevitably wish they hadn't, either due to an increasingly visible career, or just the circumstances of living in the digital age. Articles sneak in from time to time on the web, revealing an upcoming star's past in many venues including fetish shoots, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for someone to participate not knowing if their past was going to be revealed to the public at large. This must be a constant concern to producers, even those who do not actively hide their identity, having to cope with models who suddenly have second thoughts when they already signed a contract and got paid for the gig.

To producers: have there been instances where models wish their content to be removed from public viewing? What are the protocols for such a situation arising? Are they black and white or is there some wiggle room for both parties? Is this something that you have dealt with often and, if so, how have you handled it in the past or will handle it in the future? Thank you for your time.

oldgeezer · Oct 1, 2018

Not a producer but sense you left it open I'll reply.
My guess is in most cases when a model decides they wish a video be removed it is because it is all over the internet and there is little a producer can do.

turtleboy · Oct 2, 2018

ThePurpleQuill said:
This is a question directed towards producers, but is open to all who wish to ask or answer.

Tickling is a most peculiar line of work to the mainstream public, as can be noted. Being part of a fetish shoot, let alone owning your own production studio, probably isn't something you want your parents, friends, or children stumbling on, prompting many to hide their identities if they are able to. However, it must arise that some models who participated in such shoots inevitably wish they hadn't, either due to an increasingly visible career, or just the circumstances of living in the digital age. Articles sneak in from time to time on the web, revealing an upcoming star's past in many venues including fetish shoots, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for someone to participate not knowing if their past was going to be revealed to the public at large. This must be a constant concern to producers, even those who do not actively hide their identity, having to cope with models who suddenly have second thoughts when they already signed a contract and got paid for the gig.

To producers: have there been instances where models wish their content to be removed from public viewing? What are the protocols for such a situation arising? Are they black and white or is there some wiggle room for both parties? Is this something that you have dealt with often and, if so, how have you handled it in the past or will handle it in the future? Thank you for your time.

It happens from time to time, a lot more now than it used to due to so many clips being cross-posted to Pornhub and all the other tube sites including Youtube. This means that nowadays when models google their names after shooting they come up linked to their clips across a lot of other sites and particularly porn sites, in the first few hits. Most of the pirate sites will top search engine results and that just makes the situation much more problematic as this can then cause problems with family etc, whereas shooting for a niche fetish site in it's own right will likely not have caused a problem.

I will sometimes change the model's name after the event or remove their clips altogether if it is not a big deal for me and if they are polite in dealing with it. Very occasionally a model will be quite aggressive/demanding/threatening about it (i.e. the producer is responsible) and in those cases I will generally just leave it. Realistically though, by this time it is too late to do much anyway as the clips will continue to be out there. In my experience, some people are just dicks and will continue to post model's later clips under their original name even where it has been changed, or will try and link clips to models public profiles etc.

I usually suggest alternative names for models if they are using one name only for mainstream modelling - a lot don't think about this if they are not actually working as adult or fetish models.

ThePurpleQuill · Oct 2, 2018

Yes, I would think having an alternative name would help mitigate such exposure, but I had no idea people would actually link their public profiles to their videos (a complete invasion of privacy from my point of view).

I can see the rise of public posting to only exacerbate the problem, something that doesn't seem to be dying down anytime soon. I think an option for that would be having your videos accessible through streaming only, but I an unaware of the logistics of such a setup, as well as if it's viable for producers anyway.

Thank you for your honest response!

weezl · Oct 2, 2018

There's been a few very popular models that were outed due to YT and pornhub.

Kind of sad too. Tickling isn't even a bad thing. It's unusual but sometimes people treat it like we are pedophiles and rapists. Annoying tbh.

solescratcher99 · Oct 2, 2018

turtleboy said:
In my experience, some people are just dicks and will continue to post model's later clips under their original name even where it has been changed, or will try and link clips to models public profiles etc.

Oh yes. This happened to me a couple of times when someone modeled for me and requested their videos to be removed. Luckily, it appears all the videos have been removed now after I contacted youtube and a few Asian sites that were posting those videos up. One of those accounts were even trying to use my username which was super annoying.

Changing names can help but since people can use google images to search for someone's real name it seems that method is becoming outdated.

Simplytickles · Oct 2, 2018

Model release form. Model release form. Model release form. Rock solid you own what you shoot.

If ya dont get one signed. Because shes your fiance and what could happen right? You'll lose half your content overnight and have to rebuild. I.E Laura

That being said. If a past model came to me nicely with a request to take them down and it wasnt going to destroy my site again. I would.

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porcelaindoll2 · Oct 3, 2018

Yep model release forms are a must. If a model asked me nicely I would probably take her content down, but I would remind her of the phrase, "Once something is posted on the internet it's gone forever." I normally try to explain the repercussions of starring in fetish clips to new or amateur models.

turtleboy · Oct 3, 2018

Simplytickles said:
Model release form. Model release form. Model release form. Rock solid you own what you shoot.

If ya dont get one signed. Because shes your fiance and what could happen right? You'll lose half your content overnight and have to rebuild. I.E Laura

That being said. If a past model came to me nicely with a request to take them down and it wasnt going to destroy my site again. I would.

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porcelaindoll2 said:
Yep model release forms are a must. If a model asked me nicely I would probably take her content down, but I would remind her of the phrase, "Once something is posted on the internet it's gone forever." I normally try to explain the repercussions of starring in fetish clips to new or amateur models.

Whilst model releases are important and a means to cover your back, I feel they're more of a formality in this situation. As with model IDs - you keep copies but almost never get asked to show them. A model release would help if things actually went to court for example, but in most cases it won't ever get that far. In my experience, it normally boils down to a model asking in a reasonable way to change names/take the content down, or (more rarely) them becoming abusive/threatening from the start. In the last nine years, I've experienced both scenarios a few times but it's never gone further than a conversation, regardless of whether I take the content down or not. I'm always willing to try and help models that are having problems with this, but if they do get nasty then I'll just ignore.

turtleboy · Oct 3, 2018

ThePurpleQuill said:
Yes, I would think having an alternative name would help mitigate such exposure, but I had no idea people would actually link their public profiles to their videos (a complete invasion of privacy from my point of view).

Usually that is done out of stupidity and ignorance but never underestimate how low some guys will go. It's certainly not unique to tickling clips...I have known models that have had guys find their personal Facebook profile and then send pics and clips of them from various sites to all of their friends and family. In one case, someone hacked a model's profile page and emailed various photographers (pretending to be the model), offering them sex. These are some of the reasons why models suddenly pack it all in and decide they want their content off the internet.

Very recently, someone actually started a thread in this section of the forum to boast about successfully blackmailing a model-producer. He located her on FB and was threatening to 'out' her to friends and family if she didn't send him a set number of tickle clips. It was both incredibly shitty but also really pathetic. The most unbelievable thing about that was how blatant it was. He started a thread here in order to brag about it and to exchange blackmailing tips with others! Some people are lower than you would think possible.

Comfort Eagle · Oct 3, 2018

turtleboy said:
Very recently, someone actually started a thread in this section of the forum to boast about successfully blackmailing a model-producer. He located her on FB and was threatening to 'out' her to friends and family if she didn't send him a set number of tickle clips. It was both incredibly shitty but also really pathetic. The most unbelievable thing about that was how blatant it was. He started a thread here in order to brag about it and to exchange blackmailing tips with others! Some people are lower than you would think possible.

Jesus Christ, ticklefuckers are horrible.

ISUmark · Oct 3, 2018

turtleboy said:
Very recently, someone actually started a thread in this section of the forum to boast about successfully blackmailing a model-producer. He located her on FB and was threatening to 'out' her to friends and family if she didn't send him a set number of tickle clips. It was both incredibly shitty but also really pathetic. The most unbelievable thing about that was how blatant it was. He started a thread here in order to brag about it and to exchange blackmailing tips with others! Some people are lower than you would think possible.

I uhhh….what?!?! I hope whoever that was was banned from here for being a dickhead.

TTT for joy · Oct 3, 2018

turtleboy said:
Very recently, someone actually started a thread in this section of the forum to boast about successfully blackmailing a model-producer. He located her on FB and was threatening to 'out' her to friends and family if she didn't send him a set number of tickle clips. It was both incredibly shitty but also really pathetic. The most unbelievable thing about that was how blatant it was. He started a thread here in order to brag about it and to exchange blackmailing tips with others! Some people are lower than you would think possible.

That dude can and should end up in prison for that.

Producers: When Models Get Camera Shy Post-Shoot

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