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How tickling affected my sex life - and a piece of advice

onetmfdude

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So I've been wanting to post here my experience in early adulthood for a while now..
This is something I wish I had read here when I was younger and hope it finds a way to be helpful!

Like most guys I discovered our fetish early on and, being a teenager with internet, I got pretty used to tickling porn throughout high school.
At 18 when I "tried" to have sex for the first time I was really disappointed with myself. I couldn't do it, not properly at least. As you can imagine I freaked out a lot since all my life I thought sex was as easy as breathing and...what do you know, I didn't seem to be able to.

I knew that there was nothing physically wrong with me but only then I realised how "twisted" my sex drive had become. To prevent any premature answers, I am not bashing on tickling, but I do think that if you can't have vanilla sex at 18 there is something wrong with you.

That same year I found myself deeply in love and really anxious to be "normal" with my girlfriend at the time...It was horrible. I went through this forum with a fine tooth comb for some help, to no end I can recall. I quit cold turkey on all things tickling related but still, all that stress on performing, combined with zero confidence and experience kept me from doing it properly (I could start but I failed mid-act). In hindsight, it is not that surprising when you think of a guy obsessing about not going soft instead of enjoying the moment. Long story short, this ordeal lasted about three months, then I was just inexperienced but at least "functional". Overall it took me more that a year to become really good and confident about it, still being as far as possible from anything tickling related.

Around four years and let's say a few girls later, I was feeiling great! On top of the world!! By this point I had developed great game (or so I think) and felt really comfortable with my dominant side as a lover. But in all my self-love I felt bad about not being able to enjoy tickling as just a fun fetish and not treat it as burried radioactive waste from a previous life. So when I was tying up my girlfriends I started to indulge myself sometimes, never too frequently, in an "amateur tickle session", my highschool dream, with the most willing.

Since we are hardwired to jerk off when not having sex, I felt tempted to watch a tickling video every now and then, not only because I like them but to break the curse, if you will. I did and then when I had sex I was still awesome! It went like this for a while when at 26 and in a serious relationship, my girlfriend went away for a month and a half. By then I was never overdoing it with masturbation but I went on a tickling-only spree. She came home and after a week or so I had a failed launch:p

My pont is this: sex is the most awesome thing in the world, it's like food but better. And there is a very wide spectrum of experiences one can have, especially when you add a d/s angle like I suppose almost everyone here already does. So if you think about sex as a plate, think of tickling kinda like cayenne pepper. We happen to love it, but most people don't. Many like it when they try it and many are not even willing to try. It is definately not the only spice in the world and you should try others. Even if you want to have it everyday, respect those beside you that don't. Like in so many others things in life, have balance and you will conquer.
 
I didn't have sex til I was 19. Guess there's something wrong with me.

TBH this is an awful post that shames people who don't fit into what YOU think is normal based on your own insecurities.

Do what makes you happy. Let other people do what makes them happy. Within reason
 
I didn't have sex til I was 19. Guess there's something wrong with me.

TBH this is an awful post that shames people who don't fit into what YOU think is normal based on your own insecurities.

Do what makes you happy. Let other people do what makes them happy. Within reason

I have to agree with this.

You give out a vibe of "let me try and put other people down so I can feel like a "MAN" "
 
That was a great post and definitely true. Once you get obsessed with something it gets difficult to quit and can ruin your site of what is real. Fetishism has definitely twist my life more that once. It ended a relationship because I lost interest in regular sex. It sucked. I don't know why I still indulge sometimes, but I think you have to keep a good perspective.
So I've been wanting to post here my experience in early adulthood for a while now..
This is something I wish I had read here when I was younger and hope it finds a way to be helpful!

Like most guys I discovered our fetish early on and, being a teenager with internet, I got pretty used to tickling porn throughout high school.
At 18 when I "tried" to have sex for the first time I was really disappointed with myself. I couldn't do it, not properly at least. As you can imagine I freaked out a lot since all my life I thought sex was as easy as breathing and...what do you know, I didn't seem to be able to.

I knew that there was nothing physically wrong with me but only then I realised how "twisted" my sex drive had become. To prevent any premature answers, I am not bashing on tickling, but I do think that if you can't have vanilla sex at 18 there is something wrong with you.

That same year I found myself deeply in love and really anxious to be "normal" with my girlfriend at the time...It was horrible. I went through this forum with a fine tooth comb for some help, to no end I can recall. I quit cold turkey on all things tickling related but still, all that stress on performing, combined with zero confidence and experience kept me from doing it properly (I could start but I failed mid-act). In hindsight, it is not that surprising when you think of a guy obsessing about not going soft instead of enjoying the moment. Long story short, this ordeal lasted about three months, then I was just inexperienced but at least "functional". Overall it took me more that a year to become really good and confident about it, still being as far as possible from anything tickling related.

Around four years and let's say a few girls later, I was feeiling great! On top of the world!! By this point I had developed great game (or so I think) and felt really comfortable with my dominant side as a lover. But in all my self-love I felt bad about not being able to enjoy tickling as just a fun fetish and not treat it as burried radioactive waste from a previous life. So when I was tying up my girlfriends I started to indulge myself sometimes, never too frequently, in an "amateur tickle session", my highschool dream, with the most willing.

Since we are hardwired to jerk off when not having sex, I felt tempted to watch a tickling video every now and then, not only because I like them but to break the curse, if you will. I did and then when I had sex I was still awesome! It went like this for a while when at 26 and in a serious relationship, my girlfriend went away for a month and a half. By then I was never overdoing it with masturbation but I went on a tickling-only spree. She came home and after a week or so I had a failed launch:p

My pont is this: sex is the most awesome thing in the world, it's like food but better. And there is a very wide spectrum of experiences one can have, especially when you add a d/s angle like I suppose almost everyone here already does. So if you think about sex as a plate, think of tickling kinda like cayenne pepper. We happen to love it, but most people don't. Many like it when they try it and many are not even willing to try. It is definately not the only spice in the world and you should try others. Even if you want to have it everyday, respect those beside you that don't. Like in so many others things in life, have balance and you will conquer.
 
I was 22 when I had "vanilla sex". For the record, there isn't anything wrong with anyone having sex after 18, 20, 30 and so on. It feels great but I'd take tickling over sex every time. I'm hard-wired that way. When in a relationship with a Vanilla, you blend it in with what they like, that's the balance.

Also I hate cayenne pepper, tickling is my chocolate cake and sex is the glass of milk that goes with it.

Everyone is different and as long as both parties are honest with each other and respect each other's "interest" both work fine together with sex.
 
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Tickling has ruined my life. its hard enough finding any good looking girl to like me, nevermind trying to find one that's super ticklish AND enjoys it. its the old needle in a haystack thing. :doh:
 
I lost my virginity when I was 15. Tickling is definitely not something I need to do in order to have sex with a woman, although I do need the woman to be ticklish since I do like tickling occasionally. Luckily I've never had issues finding ticklish women, I'd assume since most women are ticklish it shouldn't be something difficult to come across anyway.
 
If you are putting tickling over sex, there is something definitely wrong. It's twisted. What the heck is "vanilla sex" anyway? It has become an addiction that I would bet you can't quit, and not one that most women can relate to.
I was 22 when I had "vanilla sex". For the record, there isn't anything wrong with anyone having sex after 18, 20, 30 and so on. It feels great but I'd take tickling over sex every time. I'm hard-wired that way. When in a relationship with a Vanilla, you blend it in with what they like, that's the balance.

Also I hate cayenne pepper, tickling is my chocolate cake and sex is the glass of milk that goes with it.

Everyone is different and as long as both parties are honest with each other and respect each other's "interest" both work fine together with sex.
 
As someone who was into tickling before I even knew what sex is, I personally would not have it any other way. Tickling with important spice of BDSM pretty much is my sexuality, and I don't see problems with it. I don't consider it something that would be hampering my life. I've honestly felt much more depressed in my life about not having a girlfriend to share my other interests with than about not having girlfriend to tickle.
People experience their sexuality and everything related to it in different ways, and I don't think there is any correct ways to give people "advice" about it, especially in fetish communities that include even more individual factors making the whole thing even more complex.
 
In fairness to OP, he's sharing a suggestion for the person who can't perform sexually due to being focused on tickling, and wants to change that. His solution essentially is to starve yourself of tickling, and then you'll be able to perform sexually without it. (Like, if you have insomnia, there are programs to essentially starve yourself of sleep somewhat to get you back to sleeping better.)

(though I agree with all the comments rejecting suggestions that one outcome is better than another, rather than "do what works for you")
 
If you are putting tickling over sex, there is something definitely wrong. It's twisted. What the heck is "vanilla sex" anyway? It has become an addiction that I would bet you can't quit, and not one that most women can relate to.

LOL. Wow, well let me go cry under a pillow now.
 
Great post, OP. I had similar experiences as you- I think that at least half the problem is due to the Internet. Erectile dysfunction has never been so prevalent, and it is due to the fact that we can obtain unlimited free porn on any topic. I could not stop watching tickling videos when I was with my first girlfriend, and that played a part in our breakup. Now I am limiting the videos, and going with mainly pictures and stories when my current girlfriend is not present. It works :)
 
I didn't have sex til I was 19. Guess there's something wrong with me.

TBH this is an awful post that shames people who don't fit into what YOU think is normal based on your own insecurities.

Do what makes you happy. Let other people do what makes them happy. Within reason

I don't think he was trying to shame anyone. It seemed more like he was trying to convey that watching too much porn can have a negative impact on a man's ability to "perform" in the real world. Spoiler alert... it can.

I have to agree with this.

You give out a vibe of "let me try and put other people down so I can feel like a "MAN" "

I don't think that's what OP was doing at all. Seemed more like he was trying to offer advice based off of his own experiences to other guys who might be in the same boat.

You both seem unnecessarily hostile IMO.
 
I don't quite get this post, to be honest. I don't see how having tickling fantasies can make you dysfunctional in any way. No offense, OP, but if you can't get it up, you might have to look somewhere else than our fetish, and a little more into yourself.

And the whole "watching porn is detrimental to your sexual life" thing... I call BS on that. :bsflag: That's absurd. Imagine a world where there would be no TMF, no tickling pictures, no tickling stories, no clips, no movies, NO ONE talking about it EVER. How would you feel? You probably wouldn't KNOW there is such a thing as a tickle fetish to begin with. There would be no place for you to get acceptance, to get a better knowledge of yourself, your tastes, and what makes you tick. You'd essentially be alone and confused.

One thing I learned about fantasies is that they feed from each other. By coming here, I've come into contact with other people's fantasies and they have changed the way I've looked at my own. I've discovered things about myself, and my own preferences have evolved, invigorated by other people's experiences as well as my own. Porn, watching it, reading it, writing it and exchanging it with other people on this very platform, has essentially made me a better person. More confident, surer of my own tastes, and eager to get out there and try all those things I fantasized about. Sure, if it doesn't do the same for you, I completely understand that. But no offense again, I think the problem might lie more within you rather than within your porn stash.

Another thing, and this is probably what ticked Chicago off: what's with that "if you haven't had sex before 18 there's something wrong with you" thing? Who decides that? Is there some kid of higher authority that hands you a stamped paper if you have sex before said deadline? What happens if, like her, you discover sex at 19? Or 20? Or 21? Or Later? What does that make a person? Everyone is different, man, for your sake I hope you understand that some day :sowrong: There is a very prominent man in France who said "if you don't own a Rolex before you hit 50, your life is a failure" ; IMO it's the same judgmental bullcrap that everyone is better off without.
 
Great post, OP. I had similar experiences as you- I think that at least half the problem is due to the Internet. Erectile dysfunction has never been so prevalent, and it is due to the fact that we can obtain unlimited free porn on any topic. I could not stop watching tickling videos when I was with my first girlfriend, and that played a part in our breakup. Now I am limiting the videos, and going with mainly pictures and stories when my current girlfriend is not present. It works :)

If you can get it up/get off to porn, you don't have erectile dysfunction. You might have what I've seen described on Reddit as "death grip" ... Or inability to feel sufficient stimulation to get off bc of becoming used to masturbating with a very firm grip. Some like to say that any female reliance on vibrators is an equivalent "female death grip"... But considering how many women on the sex subreddits say they can't get off at all and don't really know what a real orgasm feels like, I tend to think women have a larger issue merely finding any type of stimulation that can get them to orgasm at all, so I don't agree that needing a vibrator is the same as death grip. I do agree that too much porn CAN negatively affect men in particular, causing them to rely on the visual stimulation of sex acts (or fetish acts) on screen to perform. Ways to solve this include reducing the amount of time watching porn, using your good ol' imagination instead, edging and trying to re-train yourself to respond to lighter touch. If you can get turned on by the lighter stuff, the mental game of teasing & light touch will help catch the physical side up again. But true erectile dysfunction doesn't just disappear for guys who want to masturbate to porn and reappear when a woman is present. I'd term that more 'performance anxiety' if anything.
 
I don't quite get this post, to be honest. I don't see how having tickling fantasies can make you dysfunctional in any way. No offense, OP, but if you can't get it up, you might have to look somewhere else than our fetish, and a little more into yourself.*


And the whole "watching porn is detrimental to your sexual life" thing... I call BS on that. :bsflag: That's absurd. Imagine a world where there would be no TMF, no tickling pictures, no tickling stories, no clips, no movies, NO ONE talking about it EVER. How would you feel? You probably wouldn't KNOW there is such a thing as a tickle fetish to begin with. There would be no place for you to get acceptance, to get a better knowledge of yourself, your tastes, and what makes you tick. You'd essentially be alone and confused.

I think people are misunderstanding the point the OP was trying to make. I could be wrong, as this appears to be a "one and done" thread, but perhaps OP stopped posting because he felt attacked. My take was that too much porn consumption, (not simply watching some tickle porn) can lead to issues when one's fantasies butt up against the reality of "plain old" vanilla sex.


One thing I learned about fantasies is that they feed from each other. By coming here, I've come into contact with other people's fantasies and they have changed the way I've looked at my own. I've discovered things about myself, and my own preferences have evolved, invigorated by other people's experiences as well as my own. Porn, watching it, reading it, writing it and exchanging it with other people on this very platform, has essentially made me a better person. More confident, surer of my own tastes, and eager to get out there and try all those things I fantasized about. Sure, if it doesn't do the same for you, I completely understand that. But no offense again, I think the problem might lie more within you rather than within your porn stash.

I agree with pretty much everything you said there. However, the "problem within" may be that when one's sexuality is developing, overexposure to very specific porn can skew one's desires. It's possible"vanilla sex" wouldn't be sufficient to sustain a person's sexual interest for a real sexual encounter if they were too accustomed to "beating their cock into submission" to a very specific scenario.


Another thing, and this is probably what ticked Chicago off: what's with that "if you haven't had sex before 18 there's something wrong with you" thing? Who decides that? Is there some kid of higher authority that hands you a stamped paper if you have sex before said deadline? What happens if, like her, you discover sex at 19? Or 20? Or 21? Or Later? What does that make a person? Everyone is different, man, for your sake I hope you understand that some day :sowrong: There is a very prominent man in France who said "if you don't own a Rolex before you hit 50, your life is a failure" ; IMO it's the same judgmental bullcrap that everyone is better off without.

The phrase you put quotation marks isn't what the OP said, and I think you misinterpreted him. The OP said:

"I am not bashing on tickling, but I do think that if you can't have vanilla sex at 18 there is something wrong with you."

He didn't say if you "haven't had". He said "can't have", implying an inability to maintain an erection long enough to complete copulation. The age of 18 is around the peak of male sexual performance. IMO, he was getting at a dysfunctional state of mind, brought about by conditioning to unrealistic expectations. I can't say for sure what the OP was trying to say, but I think some people in this thread really misinterpreted him. I don't think he was trying to bash or shame or otherwise malign people. It seemed to me that he came to a realization about his own life and thought it might be helpful to others. Just my 2 cents. :)
 
If you have ever read about the effects of porn on people's perspective of sex, it is almost universally shown that porn creates a distorted view of the reality about having sex. It objectifies the opposite sex to the point where intimacy is secondary. Normal sex becomes unrealistic. Specifically, focusing on a body part, such as feet, to elicit sexual arousal, becomes even more of a distortion from normal sexual relations.

^^I think this is what the OP was getting at. Not to say porn is a bad thing. I LOVE TICKLE PORN!!! But overindulgence, especially at a young age when sexuality is developing, might cause some problems.
 
I think people are misunderstanding the point the OP was trying to make (abridged for clarity)

I think you are right. This might be a case of me misunderstanding what the OP was saying. I should read what people write more carefully.

My sincere apologies to the OP if I have indeed misrepresented his/her views. What Sensual wrote here makes perfect sense, and I see how I might have mislead myself.

:sorry:

I guess I am tensed these days, with this whole "war on porn" thing going on. With Tumblr suspending adults accounts, I think I may be too much on the defensive...
 
If you can get it up/get off to porn, you don't have erectile dysfunction. You might have what I've seen described on Reddit as "death grip" ... Or inability to feel sufficient stimulation to get off bc of becoming used to masturbating with a very firm grip. Some like to say that any female reliance on vibrators is an equivalent "female death grip"... But considering how many women on the sex subreddits say they can't get off at all and don't really know what a real orgasm feels like, I tend to think women have a larger issue merely finding any type of stimulation that can get them to orgasm at all, so I don't agree that needing a vibrator is the same as death grip. I do agree that too much porn CAN negatively affect men in particular, causing them to rely on the visual stimulation of sex acts (or fetish acts) on screen to perform. Ways to solve this include reducing the amount of time watching porn, using your good ol' imagination instead, edging and trying to re-train yourself to respond to lighter touch. If you can get turned on by the lighter stuff, the mental game of teasing & light touch will help catch the physical side up again. But true erectile dysfunction doesn't just disappear for guys who want to masturbate to porn and reappear when a woman is present. I'd term that more 'performance anxiety' if anything.

Depends on your definition of ED. According to Mayo Clinic, "Erectile dysfunction (impotence) is the inability to get and keep an erection firm enough for sex." So many young men nowadays can get it up for porn because of constant novelty available at the click of a mouse, but can't get it up for real sex because suddenly they're left with one female. And in our case it can be even worse, because what if she isn't ticklish? Or what if she isn't down for tickling? Just another layer fetishists have to deal with.
 
Depends on your definition of ED. According to Mayo Clinic, "Erectile dysfunction (impotence) is the inability to get and keep an erection firm enough for sex." So many young men nowadays can get it up for porn because of constant novelty available at the click of a mouse, but can't get it up for real sex because suddenly they're left with one female. And in our case it can be even worse, because what if she isn't ticklish? Or what if she isn't down for tickling? Just another layer fetishists have to deal with.

This. I have absolutely zero ED issues whatsoever, but can honestly say I've never felt excitement during sex with an intensity to match what I felt long, long ago when I first discovered tickle porn online... About 20 years ago or so. And since that time tickling has been the overwhelmingly dominant force in my sex world. I don't put any blame on the porn world for that, I knew I liked tickling people when I was like... 4 years old maybe, years before I even knew what a PC was. I can say however that I totally relate to the people out there with sexual problems caused by over indulging the porn over the years (and, of course, the overly aggressive masturbation that often in no way whatsoever mimics the actual sensation of sex) because I've had the honour to tickle women I've been in relationships with before and frankly what I felt physically and psychologically during those acts... Didn't compare much with watching it all unfold on a computer screen. It was like ticking a box to say yeah I've done that... Rather than something genuinely enjoyable. I guess I'm "lucky" in a way that I've literally never been into vanilla porn, otherwise I imagine right now I'd be one of these guys with genuine porn induced ED and unable to even have sex.
 
FWIW I think this is a great discussion and there are things in this thread that every one of us can relate in some way, wherever we each are on this journey. I've changed my mind/modified my thoughts about this fetish numerous times over the years, and here are my conclusions. Currently anyway, and yes I've been around a while:

- We are hardwired with it, and it cannot be removed from our brains any more than being attracted to the opposite sex can be

- We are a very, very rare breed. If you think you have to have a mate / eventual spouse who has it too, you are eliminating 99% of the population (not exaggerating) from potentially wonderful and fulfilling loving relationships.

- Its urges are stronger for us than vanilla sex, but we can still enjoy great vanilla sex without tickling. One trick is simply to think/fantasize about it while you're having vanilla sex. I do it all the time with my wife, who is ticklish but doesn't love it at all like we do.

- There's nothing wrong with indulging in porn...in moderation. In other words it's LIKE EVERY SINGLE INDULGENCE IN THE WORLD. Tasty food, gambling, drinking, etc. If you overindulge in porn consumption, again, like everything else, it can ruin your life. At the very least, it can substantially slow down your sex drive. (Things like "No nut November" are a good thing.)

- It is completely OK to NOT tell your sexual partners --or anyone in the world-- that you have it. I fall into this camp. It's nobody's business and keeping it secret gives you complete control over it. Once you do tell others about it is out of your control who knows. If you're okay with that, go for it, just know that it's impossible to put that genie back in the lamp once it's out.

- It's also okay, obviously, to tell your partner, assuming you don't care at all about what people know. To each, his or her own.

- I LOVE that I have it and have lived a very fulfilling life with it. I've never told a soul about it and have zero regrets about that.

Finally, if we're on this forum, we all have it, that's the one thing that unites us all here. But we all have different opinions about everything else in life, right? This discussion is completely healthy and productive and I'm really glad onetmfdude (the OP) posted it. You don't have to agree with him or his detractors to gain something from the discussion.
 
Thing is, regarding the sex without tickling part, if you're fantasising about that then it's not strictly without tickling and can make you somewhat "absent" and disconnected during sex, in my experience. And yeah looking at pornographic imagery is an indulgence, I just wish I myself could describe it as that. Realised a long time ago that I don't particularly enjoy looking at it anymore the way I did when I was very young indeed, it just became a bad habit in a way. Looking at all my favoured sites to see if there were any updates when I was bored and when I found new things... Looking at them with indifference as if I'd already seen it before which, tbh, is how I feel about almost all porn now. Definitely tickle porn at least, same thing over and over. Some of the stuff over at Kink (apologies if that's name dropping or something) still interests me though as it's much more extreme.

More than that, I found that if I'd had a bad day for whatever reason then my "remedy" was porn. Not necessarily the actual porn, more what you do while looking at it though they undoubtedly go hand in hand, so to speak. A form of self medicating I guess. But, develop a habit of doing that over a period of 25 years or so and... Yeah. Good times. Porn is not the issue in my personal experience, because nobody is forcing anybody to watch it... It's just how unbelievably simple it is to access, considering it's supposed to be an age restricted product. I didn't drink or do drugs at age 10 (ish) I did porn. Which is pretty bizarre, but only possible because of how easy it was to find. And of course still is.

Also I know I have an actual problem with it because that whole "No Nut November" thing, if I was to do that it'd seriously be the longest I'd ever gone in about 25 years.
 
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