kylerayner48
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UK tickling, your saying yours are?. Lol
UK tickling, your saying yours are?. Lol
I've said this before, but it bears mentioning again... If I were a producer, I'd ask models to try and *not* react.
For those who lied about being ticklish just to get the gig and get paid, I have a feeling once they were there in-person, if I asked them to not react, they wouldn't. Then, I'd understand the situation, and probably just release it as a bondage video.
But I think the majority of girls, assuming they had told me there were ticklish in advance, would actually be unable to suppress their reactions. And those videos would then be much better, watching them break again and again.
A producer could even market this as a Try To Ignore Me series. For even better credibility, they could even release the examples when other girls actually didn't react as mini-clips, proving that the premise was legit.
Things that makes me smell bullshit like a fart in a lift:
- Delayed reactions
- Exaggerated laughter
- Laughing at a tickled spot that doesn't require you to put on rigid body language
But hey that's just me!
Technically, isn't it all fake in a way?
Makes sense what you are saying but it doesn't work. Tickling is too popular. You will ask "hey just don't fake it we can do foot worship/fetish or a bondage video instead". I did exactly that. This model flipped on me saying she was ticklish and that I was hurting her credibility. Well once I released the clip it changed things and I got a wave of support from other producers as well saying she does fake it and that they couldn't believe I really outed her.
I've said this before, but it bears mentioning again... If I were a producer, I'd ask models to try and *not* react.
For those who lied about being ticklish just to get the gig and get paid, I have a feeling once they were there in-person, if I asked them to not react, they wouldn't. Then, I'd understand the situation, and probably just release it as a bondage video.
But I think the majority of girls, assuming they had told me there were ticklish in advance, would actually be unable to suppress their reactions. And those videos would then be much better, watching them break again and again.
A producer could even market this as a Try To Ignore Me series. For even better credibility, they could even release the examples when other girls actually didn't react as mini-clips, proving that the premise was legit.
Some oft-overlooked facts regarding this topic:
- Reactions to tickling can differ from person to person.
- If a reaction isn't what you were expecting or what you wanted, that doesn't necessarily mean it was faked.
- If you are paranoid about fakery in tickling videos, or simply just don't trust your own judgement when it comes to 'lees' reactions, that's your problem. (Not the producers'.)
- You can never know - beyond any possible doubt, that is - whether a 'lee's reaction is genuine.
Makes sense what you are saying but it doesn't work. Tickling is too popular. You will ask "hey just don't fake it we can do foot worship/fetish or a bondage video instead". I did exactly that. This model flipped on me saying she was ticklish and that I was hurting her credibility. Well once I released the clip it changed things and I got a wave of support from other producers as well saying she does fake it and that they couldn't believe I really outed her.
Some oft-overlooked facts regarding this topic:
- Reactions to tickling can differ from person to person.
- If a reaction isn't what you were expecting or what you wanted, that doesn't necessarily mean it was faked.
- If you are paranoid about fakery in tickling videos, or simply just don't trust your own judgement when it comes to 'lees' reactions, that's your problem. (Not the producers'.)
- You can never know - beyond any possible doubt, that is - whether a 'lee's reaction is genuine.
Technically, isn't it all fake in a way?
While I do not want to put words in COOLCAT's mouth, what I think he is getting at is that most tickling in the real word is not based on a monetary transaction. The vast majority of these models are not appearing in these videos because they love tickling, but because they are getting paid. Coolcat, if this was not what you meant, please feel free to correct me.
That may be true but it doesn't have anything to do with 'fakery'. If you paid an escort (or even someone you met on your travels) to let you tickle them would that mean they were faking it, just because it's not a 'natural' situation? It's a bit like saying a blowjob in a porn video is not a real blowjob because they are actors getting paid.
Let me try to explain it this way: In pornos, the actors and actress actual have sex. If you believe, however, sex should be like it is a porno, then you are going to be disappointed. When we look to the tickling world, most tickling is not like it occurs in videos. The reactions in videos are often exaggerated, sometimes slightly, at other times immensely. In real life there is no reason to exaggerate, but in videos the more ticklish a mode is or appears to be has a direct bearing on how much money she could make. That is great incentive to exaggerate.
It happens all the time, and lots of people are screamers too. It's like saying everyone should stop laughing when at a set time when they hear something funny or their reaction should fall within a certain range. Some people are screamers or hysterical laughters and some people are silent laughers or anywhere in between.
The weird thing is, that a lot of tickle fans actually seem to be really bad at spotting fake laughter/reactions. These threads often focus on things that do happen in real life. Everyone is different. Some people even have very fake sounding laughter. As someone who never uses fake reactions in videos, I would say the most obvious signs are when every ticklee responds in the same way (something you actually see quite a lot) This is because the producer has a certain 'style' that they like their vids to follow, normally tied in to a script. If every lee, uses the same phrases, and moves in the same way then you can be sure it is a fake or forced reaction.
I've just released a clip where the model genuinely begs for mercy which is actually quite an unusual reaction. Ironically, the fake begging and stereotypical phrases are what most customers seem to like - nearly every custom request I get features phrases that they want the 'lee to say.
Only if they are working with producers who prefer exaggerated reactions - I don't. I specifically ask models not to exaggerate or try to react in a certain way because I want completely natural reactions. I'm far from alone in that respect either.
There's a misguided concept that all producers want models to over-act or ham up their responses because that is the style increasingly adopted by a small number of well-known producers (in response to customer demand). Based on these specific examples, you then deduce that this must a desirable quality to all producers. It isn't. If a model does this in my clips, I have to stop shooting and remind them not to act. If they can't help acting/exaggerating, then their clips are no good to me and they don't get released. Therefore, the models don't get re-booked = less work for them. The idea of paying someone more to go over the top seems absurd to me.
My point was that the tickling is real whether the model is getting paid or not (and sex is still real even if you pay someone for it). Money doesn't make someone less ticklish and models don't get paid extra for being more ticklish. In my experience, it's kind of the opposite of the way you think it is