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The surest sign of fakery in a tickling video?

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brotherted

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Signs of faking, for me:
1.) When the 'lee's reaction intensity is exactly the same in every area she's tickled.
While not impossible in "real life," it's pretty uncommon. But for a not ticklish 'lee who's playing to the camera, they don't tend to think about varying the degree of faked reaction.

2.) When the 'lee's reaction doesn't have a building or increasing intensity, but goes from 0-10 more or less instantaneously.
Same concept as above. Fakers don't usually think about building their faked reactions gradually.

3.) When the 'ler's face doesn't register any reaction to what's happening.
When the tickling is real, it's natural for 'lees to be smiling, smirking or reacting somehow, whereas when the 'lee is "acting the part," the 'ler generally doesn't bother. The 'ler's sense is usually that their reaction isn't the point of the video, so their failure to react becomes a tell.

Yes/no? Any others?
 
1.) When the 'lee's reaction intensity is exactly the same in every area she's tickled.
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Makes sense.

2.) When the 'lee's reaction doesn't have a building or increasing intensity, but goes from 0-10 more or less instantaneously.
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This sounds like the opposite of reality. Have you ever grabbed someones side when they weren't expected it? It usually goes from nothing to a loud shriek immediately.

When the tickling is real, it's natural for 'lees to be smiling, smirking or reacting somehow, whereas when the 'lee is "acting the part," the 'ler generally doesn't bother. The 'ler's sense is usually that their reaction isn't the point of the video, so their failure to react becomes a tell.
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Also not sure about this. Especially with f/f videos with two models who don't necessarily have a fetish or get into tickling, it's not always going to be an engaged, excited person dictating the action.
 
The ones that keep laughing after the tickling has stopped make me wonder. Also, the over-the top-screaming some girls do doesn't strike me as genuine. I've tickled a lot of women, and never once has there been a blood-curdling screamer.
 
BeautifullyBNT said:
The ones that keep laughing after the tickling has stopped make me wonder.
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TheMasterTouch said:
My ex-girlfriend would still feel the tickling after I stopped, so that does happen in real life.
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I've seen this in real life too. Not anyone that I was tickling but a woman snuck up behind another one and tickled her sides for a couple seconds. Of course the woman laughed while being tickled but even after the tickler stopped she kept laughing for about 10 seconds and even said, "Oh geez, I can still feel it!"
 
I think fake laughter is extremely obvious. I've said this a few times on this site and other tickling related sites, but laughter is an involuntary action and it's one of the hardest things to fake. Even really great actors will say that. I remember an interview with Maisie Williams, who plays Arya Stark on Game of Thrones, where she talked about the scene where her character starts hysterically laughing about something that's not actually funny and she said that it was really hard to pull it off when there wasn't anything to laugh about. We all know that porn stars and fetish models are notoriously bad actors so while the rare few might be doing a convincing job of pretending to be ticklish, if you think their laughter is fake then it probably is.
 
BeautifullyBNT said:
The ones that keep laughing after the tickling has stopped make me wonder. Also, the over-the top-screaming some girls do doesn't strike me as genuine. I've tickled a lot of women, and never once has there been a blood-curdling screamer.
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It happens all the time, and lots of people are screamers too. It's like saying everyone should stop laughing when at a set time when they hear something funny or their reaction should fall within a certain range. Some people are screamers or hysterical laughters and some people are silent laughers or anywhere in between.

RachelB said:
yeah I think fake laughter is easy spot ha
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The weird thing is, that a lot of tickle fans actually seem to be really bad at spotting fake laughter/reactions. These threads often focus on things that do happen in real life. Everyone is different. Some people even have very fake sounding laughter. As someone who never uses fake reactions in videos, I would say the most obvious signs are when every ticklee responds in the same way (something you actually see quite a lot) This is because the producer has a certain 'style' that they like their vids to follow, normally tied in to a script. If every lee, uses the same phrases, and moves in the same way then you can be sure it is a fake or forced reaction.

I've just released a clip where the model genuinely begs for mercy which is actually quite an unusual reaction. Ironically, the fake begging and stereotypical phrases are what most customers seem to like - nearly every custom request I get features phrases that they want the 'lee to say.
 
turtleboy said:
I've just released a clip where the model genuinely begs for mercy which is actually quite an unusual reaction. Ironically, the fake begging and stereotypical phrases are what most customers seem to like - nearly every custom request I get features phrases that they want the 'lee to say.
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Dude right? Like it's stupid how people claim that anything short of red-face, hysterical begging is obviously bullshit, but they expect these same "extremely ticklish" women to be able to articulate shit like "Oh, my soles are so ticklish!" out loud while they're losing their minds?
 
Comfort Eagle said:
Dude right? Like it's stupid how people claim that anything short of red-face, hysterical begging is obviously bullshit, but they expect these same "extremely ticklish" women to be able to articulate shit like "Oh, my soles are so ticklish!" out loud while they're losing their minds?
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But didn't you know that a genuinely ticklish person will always pull their toes back with cartoon-style panic in their eyes, and yell 'no, not my feeeeeet...' or the much used favourite: 'wait, what are you doing??'

I do think that a lot of people just confuse fantasy/fictional tickling encounters with reality and then find that they don't match up.
 
turtleboy said:
I do think that a lot of people just confuse fantasy/fictional tickling encounters with reality and then find that they don't match up.
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This sounds about right. I don't think a lot of them really have much experience actually... tickling anybody. And so when it doesn't look like a 2009-era Tickle Abuse video, they immediately think someone is trying to pull a fast one on them.
 
I think "faking" in tickling is one of those things that are hard to explain but you know it when you see it. I also believe people have very high expectations when it comes to tickling, if a person isn't extremely ticklish they consider that faking. I'll admit I don't like a lot of the newer tickling studios, other than Tickle Therapy, I do prefer classic AT and A.N.A. clips.
 
I look at it as any other form of video entertainment where you watch something due to a predisposed interest but also to be entertained, turned on, etc.

There will be "acting" as well as "real" reactions to the tickling. As long as I am entertained, I can get behind it.
 
I think there are certain different kinds of laughter. I believe the fake ones (if there is one ) would be the non-ticklish ones that usually don't really giggle or laugh. When the title says "extremely ticklish." But I can't blame the content creators. They have make living and maybe some lees want to get paid and exaggerate the truth a bit as well as the content creators.
 
RevyBL said:
I think "faking" in tickling is one of those things that are hard to explain but you know it when you see it.
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Know what? I legitimately don't think they can. I produce videos as a hobby, and one of the most popular models I've ever worked with I feel like was putting on more of an act than some of the girls I thought would get amazing receptions and ended up generating zero interest.

People see what they want to see, and get angry over the perception of trying to fool them.
 
It's interesting to think that nowadays with tickling being so much more prominent within the fetish market, that there wouldn't be any real need for fakery anymore?
There seems to be so many producers and so many willing lees, that the days of a fetish model just taking on tickling for the sake of another payday seem long gone.


But in terms of faking, this is what I look for..

It's all in the eyes...

And/or the body movements...

You have to detach yourself from your expectations/fantasies pre-video (let's face it, we don't tend to watch videos unless the preview pic/clip looks like something we'll enjoy).



To be brutal, study a video after having masturbated - watch it with a scientific or vanilla approach - you can never be 100% certain as everyone is different and the variables are too numerous, but more often than not you'll get a good sense of how ticklish a person is and how genuine the reactions are (even if they're not to your taste) - so you should be able to distinguish what's (at worst) faking and what's (not quite so bad) playing to the camera/nervousness. Sometimes it's also just not the reaction you were looking for.

I've also been fooled before when looking at reactions that seem ticklish, but on second view it's actually laughter or a facial reaction to something that's going on off-camera, to do with the ler or with another lee. It's about what we want to see... (calls to mind the famous photo of Avril Lavigne's soles, that turned out to be a trick of the lens and was actually her boyfriend's foot). Oh how we laughed....

Cheers,
TTG
 
I realize there's not a direct causality between a fake scenario and fake reactions, but for some reason, it sure seems like they're correlated.

When I hear the bad high school drama class delivery of "Hey, why did you tie me up?" when there's obviously a camera pointed right at her face that she supposedly doesn't see, the subsequent tickling reaction just seems so much more likely to be exaggerated for effect.
 
brotherted said:
I realize there's not a direct causality between a fake scenario and fake reactions, but for some reason, it sure seems like they're correlated.

When I hear the bad high school drama class delivery of "Hey, why did you tie me up?" when there's obviously a camera pointed right at her face that she supposedly doesn't see, the subsequent tickling reaction just seems so much more likely to be exaggerated for effect.
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In pretty much all of those cases, the reactions are going to be acted and/or wildly exaggerated because the nature of the clip demands it. If the whole clip is following a scripted dialogue then the 'lee has to respond in line with the script and theme of the clip, which means you never have a natural reaction even if the model is actually ticklish. They will sometimes have to suppress their natural reaction in order to say the necessary phrases and act in the right way. I think that many people are so used to watching these type of clips that they come to seem the fagke responses as how people actually behave.

I personally dislike shooting this type of clip for this reason and only shoot them for customs myself. Even when the model is insanely ticklish, the clip feels wooden when they're being forced to behave in a certain way.
 
Recently a vid clip was posted, and made me think of this post. Some product iut there is just terrible.

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When the lees is tickled on their feet and laughs hysterically yet their souls do not scruntch or twitch at all.
Also when feather tickling immediately results in hysterical laughter.
 
I guess a good follow up to the question is, IS any clips from any studio actually real.
 
Justin Sane said:
When the lees is tickled on their feet and laughs hysterically yet their souls do not scruntch or twitch at all.
Also when feather tickling immediately results in hysterical laughter.
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That can happen. People's feet don't always react in the way you think they should...feet 'scrunching' is not a typical reaction anyway lol

kylerayner48 said:
I guess a good follow up to the question is, IS any clips from any studio actually real.
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Yes
 
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