Reason for so many complaints

Lately there's been a large increase in the amount of threads lamenting about quality of the tickling videos being produced.

That got me thinking about some of the reasons behind this. As much as people wanna put in on the piracy, the overexposure to content because of steaming availability, I don't think that's the main factor. It's certainly a contributing one, but I'd say it's because of the sheer amount of high level fetish models who have dropped out of the industry in the last 3-4 years in particular, who had been in the industry for 10+ years prior to their exits, meaning they most likely were among the first women that fetishists got off on by watching and getting hooked on their videos.

This being such a complex fetish, there's a level of attachment there and there's gonna be a struggle and an unwillingness to try to watch the 100's if not 1000's of other women out there being featured in quality content. I just think that's really unfortunate. So mostly the audience would be willing to keep feeding their fetish by either buying old clips or watching pirated content of these women rather than try to explore fresher content (Is this also possibly part of the reason we're seeing so many re-release of old clips from producers but in HD quality, or even same quality for some lol)

For producers out there, how do you fight that knowing that women nowadays are much less likely to spend 10 years doing this - they're mostly looking at 1-2 years and then move on.

At least we have a better variety of clips these days...

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Seeing the same models in hundreds of videos across different studios decreases the likelihood I will buy a clip of that model. Personally I'm tired of seeing the same 15 models being tickled by the same 3-4 studios in the same positions by the same people in the same places. The more manufactured and mass produced something seems to me the more turned off I get. At the same time I feel like producers have no standards when it comes to getting new models. The amateurish, girls next door appeal I remember seeing in clips from my teens is gone, and most new models are clearly experienced fetish/sex workers. If a studio has plots for the obvious fetish models, they're always contrived (why have plots at all?)t just feels like everything has been dumbed down to a formula. There is little room for innovation because major producers are phoning it in.

If I have a 2011 or 2012 video of a model being tickled in a studio and then that same model is tickled in the same position or scenario by the same or similar studio in 2019, what reason is there for me, a consumer looking for something new, to buy it? Maybe I'm counter to the mainstream in my tastes.

For me, as i've mentioned in several threads of these, i've heavily cut down on buying clips/videos for 2 reasons. The first and foremost is the fact that the playful side of tickling seems to have taken the top bill within the last almost decade, and seems to be what 95% of the producers these days are making, which aint my thing and does nothing for me. But kudos to those who are into it..it just aint me.

The 2nd being that the ones that don't fall in that playful category are for the most these days...dare I say, lame. Lame meaning either non-ticklish gals that give no reaction as if they're asleep (and I have no clue why producers waste good money producing these), or, you have very bad actresses that can't even put on the show convincingly (in the same vein of some of the worst bits of the classic FM concepts clips). That's my reasoning for feeling how I do. Has nothing to do with what the OP mentioned in my case.

On the positive though, I will say a few are still out there making the stuff i'm into, and do it well. But they're few and far between.

For me, my complaints come from a mix of things already said.

My number one complaint with almost every video that's come out in recent years, is the extreme overuse of oils and lotions.
For me, that is an absolute ruin of a video for a couple reasons.
But for some reason or other, producers seem to believe that it's mandatory to use oil or lotion in every video, even if the lee has a great reaction prior to using oil/lotion, and some can't wait to use it. There are quite a few videos out there that start with the ler putting oil on the soles immediately.
Sadly, even amateur videos overuse oil/lotion.

My second complaint is the same as the post two up from me.
Guys feel the need to put themselves in the videos and make them the center of attention instead of the tickling.
There are some clips out there, mostly amateur, that have the ler either blocking the tickling with his face or hands, or constantly talking over the laughter. Or worse, laughing louder and more than the lee. I can't stand that. I would like to see the feet in the videos, not some guy's hand and a little bit of toes, and I certainly don't want to hear your voice while the lee is laughing. This is why I usually gravitate to F/F videos. But it cycles back into my first complaint.

I'm still bummed that Czechtickling stopped making videos, they were my favorite "big studio".

Park CollegeO said:

Lately there's been a large increase in the amount of threads lamenting about quality of the tickling videos being produced.

That got me thinking about some of the reasons behind this. As much as people wanna put in on the piracy, the overexposure to content because of steaming availability, I don't think that's the main factor. It's certainly a contributing one, but I'd say it's because of the sheer amount of high level fetish models who have dropped out of the industry in the last 3-4 years in particular, who had been in the industry for 10+ years prior to their exits, meaning they most likely were among the first women that fetishists got off on by watching and getting hooked on their videos.

This being such a complex fetish, there's a level of attachment there and there's gonna be a struggle and an unwillingness to try to watch the 100's if not 1000's of other women out there being featured in quality content. I just think that's really unfortunate. So mostly the audience would be willing to keep feeding their fetish by either buying old clips or watching pirated content of these women rather than try to explore fresher content (Is this also possibly part of the reason we're seeing so many re-release of old clips from producers but in HD quality, or even same quality for some lol)

For producers out there, how do you fight that knowing that women nowadays are much less likely to spend 10 years doing this - they're mostly looking at 1-2 years and then move on.

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Personally, I think it boils down to people being short-sighted in terms of what they actually watch vs what is available. The limited selection of clips doing the rounds of major piracy sites feeds into that perception that "it's just the same few fetish models and all the clips are the same..." " there are no girl-next-door types anymore" etc. but it's really just BS when you actually look at what's out there.

Using my own studio as one example, I fit into the 'major producer' category since I've been up in the top 10 for much of the last 10 years (mostly top 5). In that time, I have continually shot new models - new faces literally every month. And not really fetish models either - mostly glamour/fashion models with little or no experience of fetish work. I have only ever sought out original models, first-timers etc (much easier for me, being in the UK) and have never had any interest in shooting models that have shot similar stuff already.

On top of that, I also keep in contact with many of my best and most popular models, and continue to shoot with them (I have been working with certain girls for 9 years now and they are still popular today!) Obviously I am just one example but I am not the only one - Czech Tickling have been bringing awesome new models to the scene for longer than I have, so have French Tickling (whose models are the very definition of cute girl-next-door) and I see many newer stores with original models too. The problem is, people who make the above comments are often just focusing on the 3 or 4 (US-based) studios that they are interested in and then generalising that experience to the tickling video industry as a whole - for example:

Who Sits So Sly said:

Personally I'm tired of seeing the same 15 models being tickled by the same 3-4 studios in the same positions by the same people in the same places. The more manufactured and mass produced something seems to me the more turned off I get. At the same time I feel like producers have no standards when it comes to getting new models. The amateurish, girls next door appeal I remember seeing in clips from my teens is gone, and most new models are clearly experienced fetish/sex workers.

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...rather than actually exploring other studios. I'm still selling clips and I'm sure the other well-known producers I mentioned are too since they're still going strong. In my experience, there's always been a big disconnect between popular 'TMF opinion' regarding the tickle video industry and actual market-place activity. It's one of the reasons why there are so many threads complaining about the decline in quality of certain stores, despite those stores continuing to rank highly on C4S.

Turtleboy, maybe they just don't like you and czechs style of production. No offense, but I never bought any of your videos because I don't like that style. If you are the producer that I'm thinking of. But I am not going to shit on you or anyone elses product just because it doesn't appeal to me.

There are a lot of producers out there. A ton of variety.

I will make the age old argument though that if you aren't satisfied with whats out there. There are 2 solutions.

A. Stop sharing all of the videos on the internet for free because it kills the producers profit margins and unless they have a shit ton of money to just throw away, they aren't going to make any videos. Most tickling videos are affordable, so stop being cheapskates.

B. Stop sharing all of these videos all over youtube and pornhub. You guys scare a lot of girls away from starring in tickle porn videos. They don't want their friends, family and co-workers finding out about this. It has happened several times before.

weezl said:

Turtleboy, maybe they just don't like you and czechs style of production. No offense, but I never bought any of your videos because I don't like that style. If you are the producer that I'm thinking of. But I am not going to shit on you or anyone elses product just because it doesn't appeal to me.

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I'm not offended - that was actually the point I'm making - i.e. that people only check out a small number of stores that appeal to their own tastes and then declare that all the stores/models/clips are basically the same when they aren't really looking at anything else in the first place.

The opinions expressed on the TMF often don't match up to the way things stand in terms of actual customer preferences, clip sales etc. This forum can be kind of a bubble sometimes...the people complaining about the lack of variety etc probably don't venture too far beyond their own preferences for certain stores and probably don't represent the views of the wider clip-buying public, who actually support quite a variety of producers.

turtleboy said:

In my experience, there's always been a big disconnect between popular 'TMF opinion' regarding the tickle video industry and actual market-place activity.

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I think this is true across the board...or in this case forum. Based on the "vocal majority" here, one would think it's 98% males, obsessed with women's feet, a possibly unhealthy interest in celebrities, for whom tickling is an expression of their sadistic make up, based on the fact they primarily desire to see a young, petite Caucasian woman in the most inescapable and immobile restraint being ruthlessly tickled, ideally by another woman. When in actuality, probably 25% of the members have zero interest in tickling clips because they'd rather look at a cartoon or read a story or whatever. There are tons who lurk for years. That gap between what people THINK everyone here thinks/feels/wants, vs reality has always been quite wide.

So I actually think that there are NOT a lot of complaining threads here. These pop up every month or two maybe? 5 or 6 people express a preference they feel is not being catered to. (The effort they've made to locate the material is often at the very least questionable). Nonetheless, that's really not that many. And to the point others have made - when you have literally dozens (if not hundreds) of customers buying clips EACH day, the fact is, there is no crisis, no lack of material period. What there is, is simply a "possible" lack (because again, search efforts are usually quite iffy) of materials being produced that meet the specific criteria of a small percentage of the market. Very small. And it bears mentioning that even among that percentage, the criteria is varied! That situation truly sucks for them, but is in no way any realistic indicator of the state of things.

ebony92 said:

Now aren't you both generalizing consumers now.

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No. I'm pointing out that we tend to point out that the people that complain tend to be generalised as consumers - i.e. as representing the majority opinion.

ebony92 said:

..........heavy on the M/F, plus tools, plus nylons so I'm not a fan either. I have bought clips from literally every clip store advertised on here except some of the new ones within the last year. So I most assuredly have supported this community and have my opinions on all of you. So when I say what I say, I'm not someone who's just talking to talk. I said what I said and my opinion is valid like anyone else's.

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This is kind of the point. I'm fine with you not liking my clips and I'm sure French and Czech will cope with you not liking theirs either. Your opinion is valid as are your preferences, but they only represent the views of one person and are not really representative of customers as a whole. Myself and the other sites mentioned all have a wide-base of customers and have all been selling lots of clips for a long time now (we all have separate membership sites also), despite doing all of the things that you don't really like. What I'm saying is, the market is a lot bigger and more varied than you might think and it always has been - I have a large proportion of customers from the UK for example, I sell more M/F clips than F/F clips on the whole, more nylon than barefoot and so on. People tend to only focus on what their favourite stores are doing (i.e. re-using the same few models, techniques) and then complain that everyone is the same. It's a bit like someone having a preference for Japanese cars and then complaining that all cars are the same because they've driven nothing but Honda and Toyota.

ebony92 said:

Nor am I publicly trying to bash, but you both claim many of us aren't into tickling or don't do research and I'm writing to let you know that opinion is "BS" as was mentioned in an earlier statement.

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No-one is claiming that you're not into tickling. It's just that some of the people who complain (on the TMF) don't look too hard at the other 1000 or so other stores before complaining. Many don't even look at the other top-selling stores before projecting their views about the 'collapse of the industry'. Maybe you've done your research already, in which case, I'm sorry there's nothing out there for you!

I'm aware of uk tickling and while it has good clips the majority are just what I described - professionals in the business (fashion models, porn, etc.) all being tickled in the same positions, in the same ways, at the same camera angles. I found a few good ones in the past (I liked Leila) but for the most part they all look and play out the same. I liked French tickling but now they're starting to go the same route if bringing the same rotation of porn models up repeatedly (though they do seem to have more of a selection of amateur, non-pro models (which I like)). I like Octopus, and I don't even know if they advertise here. So, no, it's not that I don't know what I like or what's out there. Consumers of these videos know EXACTLY what they like and go to lengths to find it.

Who Sits So Sly said:

I'm aware of uk tickling and while it has good clips the majority are just what I described - professionals in the business (fashion models, porn, etc.).

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With respect, what you actually said was:

Who Sits So Sly said:

and most new models are clearly experienced fetish/sex workers.

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Which isn't really the same thing. I do work with models as opposed to amateurs, next-door-neighbours, relatives etc but they are a wide range of models, mostly with little or no experience of fetish or video work and all are new to tickling videos. I'd say less than 5% of my models are porn models and the only 'sex worker' I can think of is actually Leila...the one model you say you liked. Ironic but true

Who Sits So Sly said:

all being tickled in the same positions, in the same ways, at the same camera angles. I found a few good ones in the past (I liked Leila) but for the most part they all look and play out the same.

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Whilst my clips may not appeal to you and I do accept that they are predominantly shot in the same building, and in the same style (I have my own style and don't really do plotlines or role-play, for example), they are certainly not the same positions or angles. If anything I'm overly obsessed with camera angles....my average 10-15 min clip will be shot from at least seven or eight angles (often more), including wide angles, close-ups, body shots, feet shots, overhead etc. My F/F clips are usually shot with both moving and static camera angles throughout. I also do a lot of multi-cam stuff for split-screen continuous clips. As for bondage positions/scenarios, I can't think of anything I haven't tried within the boundaries of what I have to use - three bondage tables, three stocks, ropes, chains, spreaders, tape, gags, chairs, beds, tables, doorways, gym equipment, wrapping, standing, sitting, laying down, running away, various limbs suspended....probably upwards of thirty positions or more - including many that didn't even work out. I shoot M/F, F/F and never shoot the same scenario with the same model twice, unless it is a custom. I also try to avoid using the same model combinations unless there is something specific I want to shoot with them. And then there are all the challenge clips and the customs which often involve other stuff too...and the models that bring their mothers, sisters and cousins to shoot with. And the F/M clips too. And the occasional adult scene. And the outdoor clips.....and so on.

I'm aware that this probably comes across as very defensive - believe me, it isn't meant to be and I'm really not vying for your custom here. I just find it frustating when people make these comments, labelling all producers as 'lazy' and 'the same' when what it really boils down to is: you probably don't like the stores that are doing something different. You don't like me or French Tickling for example, and that's totally fine. But, we are both using hundreds of original models to produce thousands (literally thousands) of different clips, different positions, scenarios etc. There are are many other stores doing that too. I mean really, what is there to do in tickling clips, that hasn't at least been attempted by someone?

ebony92 said:

Hey at the end of the day it's a public forum. I never came and said this is how everyone feels about everything. At the end of the day nothing will change. I'm just using this as a means to get my point out there. When you make the statement that people aren't into liking something that's different, I find that invalid. You may come out with thousands of clips but that doesn't I'm going to like said thousands of clips. Especially when I personally feel almost all producers feature heavy on M/F. I get it, it's cost effective and most clip producers are men. In addition Everyone, and literally everyone features heavy usage of brushes to tickle feet now as well. I feel like all those tools and brushes just isn't tickling to me and it ruins a clip. I also know there won't all of a sudden be an influx of more diversity in clips. Like I said, I'm personally not into Caucasian women like that. So you don't come off as different to me because your store falls into much, but not all the criteria I just mentioned. I think most of the stores fall into most of that criteria. I still buy clips from stores, including yours, but I do it less and I'm more selective than previously.

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You're missing the point again. It doesn't matter whether you like my store or not, or store X or store Y. The point is there is a huge amount of variety out there. You don't like M/F tickling - there are plenty of stores that feature mainly F/F.

My original response was directed to the 'all clips are the same' and 'they all use the same fetish models in the same positions' complaint that keeps resurfacing on the TMF. I'm just using my store (since it is mine) to illustrate the point that this isn't true but you can also look at Tickle Therapy, Russian Tickling for different models (and many US stores too), look at FTKL for the story line stuff....literally loads of others. Again, it doesn't matter if you don't like those particular examples, the fact remains that there is more variety in the tickling clips available now than there has ever been.

There really is a lot of variety and options out there. :/

Nobody says one has to continuously buy clips; just buy a bunch from the stores you frequent and that should keep you occupied...

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ebony92 said:

Now aren't you both generalizing consumers now.

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I don't think so. I only mentioned there were relatively few complaints, and even among those complaints, the criteria for what makes a desirable clip is often quite varied. And within those few, there are some who do questionable searching before making their statements and SOME who simply are not able to find material they want.

ebony92 said:

So when I say what I say, I'm not someone who's just talking to talk. I said what I said and my opinion is valid like anyone else's. Nor am I publicly trying to bash, but you both claim many of us aren't into tickling or don't do research and I'm writing to let you know that opinion is "BS" as was mentioned in an earlier statement.

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I never made any statements about what anyone is or isn't into, nor did I say anyone's opinion is invalid. I did state some of the few who complain don't do much research. My response was in agreement with turtleboy and to the OP, on the basis of turtleboy's statement. Nothing I wrote was directed at anyone else, though it seems you took it personally.

ebony92 said:

Lioclips I used to buy from you plenty but you hardly update your store and you haven't your blogspot in a long time. Even your IG is repeat stuff and I have no recent transactions to get on your private page.

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Given that you appear to be in the group of potential consumers who simply can't find material you like, I'm glad you were able to enjoy some of my material previously. As posted on my IG, I stopped using C4S for new materials about 2 years ago, and stopped actively producing about a year ago. New material had been released as late as last fall though.

I will say that unlike most of the, for lack of a better term dissatisfied consumers, you did provide some specifics on what you look for. To that end, when I see that you look for:
1. Non- Caucasian women
2. Preferably f/f action
3. Finger tickling, no tools

Off the top of my head, without looking at C4S, doing any searches or anything I think - Ethnic Kink, Bk Tickler, BC Fetish, Ginary, Brazil Studio and a Mexican or possibly Central/South American company I've seen put out material this year. Now I know JUST because some material is released, doesn't mean it's something that appeals to you, but I'm genuinely perplexed by your comments when I've just thought of 5 active companies that probably meet 2/3 of your mentioned preferences. Again, maybe you've checked them, maybe you haven't, maybe they don't interest you, which I think brings it back to a certain point. That point being, if one can't find material they personally enjoy, that is a statement of that person's personal situation, but not on the "industry" at large. That's the difference.

I still find it amazing that some people can’t find content that floats their boat. Most producers shoot in HD nowadays, and there are lots of great studios producing great content on C4S. I’ve been buying clips since 2011/2012, and very rarely have I been left disappointed by anything I’ve purchased. It just seems like there’s lots of petty criticism being aimed at producers, and I’m often left puzzled as to why that is.

turtleboy said:

Personally, I think it boils down to people being short-sighted in terms of what they actually watch vs what is available. The limited selection of clips doing the rounds of major piracy sites feeds into that perception that "it's just the same few fetish models and all the clips are the same..." " there are no girl-next-door types anymore" etc. but it's really just BS when you actually look at what's out there.

Using my own studio as one example, I fit into the 'major producer' category since I've been up in the top 10 for much of the last 10 years (mostly top 5). In that time, I have continually shot new models - new faces literally every month. And not really fetish models either - mostly glamour/fashion models with little or no experience of fetish work. I have only ever sought out original models, first-timers etc (much easier for me, being in the UK) and have never had any interest in shooting models that have shot similar stuff already.

On top of that, I also keep in contact with many of my best and most popular models, and continue to shoot with them (I have been working with certain girls for 9 years now and they are still popular today!) Obviously I am just one example but I am not the only one - Czech Tickling have been bringing awesome new models to the scene for longer than I have, so have French Tickling (whose models are the very definition of cute girl-next-door) and I see many newer stores with original models too. The problem is, people who make the above comments are often just focusing on the 3 or 4 (US-based) studios that they are interested in and then generalising that experience to the tickling video industry as a whole - for example:



...rather than actually exploring other studios. I'm still selling clips and I'm sure the other well-known producers I mentioned are too since they're still going strong. In my experience, there's always been a big disconnect between popular 'TMF opinion' regarding the tickle video industry and actual market-place activity. It's one of the reasons why there are so many threads complaining about the decline in quality of certain stores, despite those stores continuing to rank highly on C4S.

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Clips 4 Sale studio homepage
#24 Tickling in Russia
#32 Tickle Abuse Worship
#36 Sweet Southern Feet
#39 Foot Tickling Fantasies

Clips 4 Sale charts
#20 Tickling Male (Straight Crush Feet)

Feet & Tickling losing out to Big Beautiful & Taboo .

For information the ranking system on C4S is blurry, I asked their support and the ranking calculation changes depending on the category.
At least I know that the main page is based on the last 7 days (but don't know if it's number of sales or the value in $ )
For the "OUR TOP SELLING CLIPS" box on studio's pages, it also depends on the studio's volume of sales.

Was kinda off topic but as I've learned that today ...

Anyway it's still interesting to learn people's opinions. Everything goes by trend, there was a time where lickling wasn't a thing, or massage tables, or stocks, or gloves ...

One studio does it and then everybody follows.

Vote with your wallet, when you see something you like buy it.

I'm pressured to do some kind of content on the TMF, but a lot of TMFers prefer to comment than buy. (And it's too bad that "cool stuff" or "great model" or "please do that more often" don't pay the bills )

For example, F/F costs twice as much money to make but doesn't make twice the revenue. If only half of the people that complained about not getting enough F/F bought them, we would only do that ^^

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kingmaker said:

For information the ranking system on C4S is blurry, I asked their support and the ranking calculation changes depending on the category.
At least I know that the main page is based on the last 7 days (but don't know if it's number of sales or the value in $ )
For the "OUR TOP SELLING CLIPS" box on studio's pages, it also depends on the studio's volume of sales.

Was kinda off topic but as I've learned that today ...

Anyway it's still interesting to learn people's opinions. Everything goes by trend, there was a time where lickling wasn't a thing, or massage tables, or stocks, or gloves ...

One studio does it and then everybody follows.

Vote with your wallet, when you see something you like buy it.

I'm pressured to do some kind of content on the TMF, but a lot of TMFers prefer to comment than buy. (And it's too bad that "cool stuff" or "great model" or "please do that more often" don't pay the bills )

For example, F/F costs twice as much money to make but doesn't make twice the revenue. If only half of the people that complained about not getting enough F/F bought them, we would only do that ^^

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Never hurts to look into alternative rankings.

A gay foot fetish subscription site called myfriendsfeet.com has a ranking of 45 on the Alexa Adult Image Galleries ranking (31155 USA & 96000 Global)
...UK Tickling is below that figure (have to type in the Alexa search engine to find UK Tickling)
https://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Adult/Image_Galleries

Hopefully at least the Taboo clips will be buried after this week then.
Let me know if you find out more.

Philip_2006 said:

Clips 4 Sale studio homepage
#24 Tickling in Russia
#32 Tickle Abuse Worship
#36 Sweet Southern Feet
#39 Foot Tickling Fantasies

Clips 4 Sale charts
#20 Tickling Male (Straight Crush Feet)

Feet & Tickling losing out to Big Beautiful & Taboo .

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Philip_2006 said:

Never hurts to look into alternative rankings.

A gay foot fetish subscription site called myfriendsfeet.com has a ranking of 45 on the Alexa Adult Image Galleries ranking (31155 USA & 96000 Global)
...UK Tickling is below that figure (have to type in the Alexa search engine to find UK Tickling)
https://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Adult/Image_Galleries

Hopefully at least the Taboo clips will be buried after this week then.
Let me know if you find out more.

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It's important to distinguish between the global top 50 (i.e. whole of C4S incorporating several hundred thousand stores) and the tickling top 50 (made up of a thousand or so stores) Tickling has never been a 'top' category on clips4sale. Although it does do comparatively well, the top selling tickling stores only just scrape the top global 50 with the top 10 global C4S stores consisting of some pretty strange stuff usually. Generally taboo/incest was always one of the top sellers, until C4S tightened up on what people were allowed to post or describe. Now all kinds of femme domme, brutal humiliation and mixed wrestling seem to be the biggest sellers.

To give more context, as a top 10 tickling store, I typically rank somewhere between No.50 - No.180 on C4S globally. I rarely drop lower than that, but even when my store (occassionally) hits No.1 on the tickling category it doesn't always get into the global top 50...I think the highest I ever got was around 25. Other stores in the global top 50 are typically selling more than the top tickling stores overall and there is rarely more than one or two tickle stores in the top 50 overall - sometimes none. It's just the way it's always been...it's not an indication of a decline in tickling stores vs other fetish.

As for my membership site, that isn't a very good indicator either since I don't actually promote it. Whilst I do update the site twice a week, I focus any promotion on C4S since that draws 2-3 times as much profit and I just don't have the time to promote both (I don't really promote either very much at the minute!) A better comparison would be a tickling membership site that is promoted as a main business vs another fetish site. Ticklinng-Submission or Tickle Abuse perhaps.

turtleboy said:

It's important to distinguish between the global top 50 (i.e. whole of C4S incorporating several hundred thousand stores) and the tickling top 50 (made up of a thousand or so stores) Tickling has never been a 'top' category on clips4sale. Although it does do comparatively well, the top selling tickling stores only just scrape the top global 50 with the top 10 global C4S stores consisting of some pretty strange stuff usually. Generally taboo/incest was always one of the top sellers, until C4S tightened up on what people were allowed to post or describe. Now all kinds of femme domme, brutal humiliation and mixed wrestling seem to be the biggest sellers.

To give more context, as a top 10 tickling store, I typically rank somewhere between No.50 - No.180 on C4S globally. I rarely drop lower than that, but even when my store (occassionally) hits No.1 on the tickling category it doesn't always get into the global top 50...I think the highest I ever got was around 25. Other stores in the global top 50 are typically selling more than the top tickling stores overall and there is rarely more than one or two tickle stores in the top 50 overall - sometimes none. It's just the way it's always been...it's not an indication of a decline in tickling stores vs other fetish.

As for my membership site, that isn't a very good indicator either since I don't actually promote it. Whilst I do update the site twice a week, I focus any promotion on C4S since that draws 2-3 times as much profit and I just don't have the time to promote both (I don't really promote either very much at the minute!) A better comparison would be a tickling membership site that is promoted as a main business vs another fetish site. Ticklinng-Submission or Tickle Abuse perhaps.

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You make a good point.

There's attachment to certain models, sure. My thing lately is I'm sick of white models. I like cultures with that afro hair. .....that's rather rare in porn of any kind lately, to me.

Otherwise lately the industry appears to be booming. ...just income isn't.