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Unless it’s a story, I don’t post on the Forum too often. Work and school keep me plenty busy. In any case, I wanted to pose a question to my fellow Forum members. I truly enjoy watching tickling clips, and for me, the act, as arousing as it can be, still maintains a certain innocence in my opinion. When I watch models engage in tickling, the clips I watch anyway, it’s all mostly lighthearted. They’re tied up, and bursting with laughter, yada yada.

But sometimes I find myself Googling a particular model, looking for additional tickle content, perhaps from a producer they’ve worked with that I’m not familiar with. And in my search, I sometimes find that some of my favorites engage in traditional sexual activities. Now, there’s nothing wrong with that, but it does kind of burst the little bubble I’d encapsulated them in.

Am I alone in feeling this way? Does anyone else get slightly shook, when they find out the model they’d been watching get tickled, goes from that to ramming a guy’s shaft?

Thanks in advance!
 
I was not shocked when I found out models did traditional porn. I was more shocked and intrigued when I found out they did other fetishes. I just did not realize other things were fetishes like sneezing and balloon popping. Not criticizing nor did I get into anything new, I was just surprised what else was out there.
 
A professional porn actress makes her living by working in the adult film industry, and that field caters to a vast spectrum of interests. If also willing to participate in 'our' portion of the market, she probably looks upon this particular variation as a less strenuous albeit less lucrative part of her job.

If whatever she does helps fund her car payments or rent or her children's shoes or whatever, why not?
 
Not really, I don't find it surprising that a tickle model has also done other forms of prom, Sasha Foxx and Jade Indica have some good BJ videos. What I do find strange(but not really) is that women who do tickle porn seem to be more secretive when it comes to their idenity than woman who do traditional porn. Tickle Abuse for example, you can't just google search them and find photos like you can Lacey Duvalle even when it comes to the more well known ones like Brooke. I don't know what that says about a lot of guys with that feitsh, I'm guessing they don't want to be easily found because of how obsessive a lot of tickle guys are or maybe they find it more difficult to explain if someone they knew accidently stubbled acrossed one of their videos. Feet use to be the same way but now every other woman is selling feet pics and videos on their social media.
 
Well "your favorite tickle model" isn't a tickle model at all LOL. She's just a sex worker

Maybe this type of discovery about a particular model they are obsessed with would encourage people to go out and engage in sessions and the real thing rather than live this fetish through the video clips

The models in the clips don't give a shit about tickling. They don't enjoy receiving it, they don't look forward to handing it out. It's a job, pure and simple. One might even argue they enjoy working on traditional porn much more than this.

The world created in clips doesn't exist
 
didates26 said:
Well "your favorite tickle model" isn't a tickle model at all LOL. She's just a sex worker

Maybe this type of discovery about a particular model they are obsessed with would encourage people to go out and engage in sessions and the real thing rather than live this fetish through the video clips

The models in the clips don't give a shit about tickling. They don't enjoy receiving it, they don't look forward to handing it out. It's a job, pure and simple. One might even argue they enjoy working on traditional porn much more than this.

The world created in clips doesn't exist
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For most yes this is correct 100%
People forget that tickling and tickling Clips is still part of the sex industry and it's a fantasy world not based in reality whatsoever!

There are few of us like myself who do enjoy the fetish who have the fetish themselves and only do tickle fetish but I haven't found very many like me ;)

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One of my favourite models from back in the day (Paris Kennedy) did some pretty awesome stuff for Tickle Central and Tickle Chicks, and then I discovered that she'd also starred in plenty of non-tickling related porn. I can't say it surprises me at all!
 
RevyBL said:
Not really, I don't find it surprising that a tickle model has also done other forms of prom, Sasha Foxx and Jade Indica have some good BJ videos. What I do find strange(but not really) is that women who do tickle porn seem to be more secretive when it comes to their idenity than woman who do traditional porn. Tickle Abuse for example, you can't just google search them and find photos like you can Lacey Duvalle even when it comes to the more well known ones like Brooke. I don't know what that says about a lot of guys with that feitsh, I'm guessing they don't want to be easily found because of how obsessive a lot of tickle guys are or maybe they find it more difficult to explain if someone they knew accidently stubbled acrossed one of their videos. Feet use to be the same way but now every other woman is selling feet pics and videos on their social media.
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It's because they're not necessarily well known porn models, or even porn models at all. Mainstream porn models shooting for larger sites such as Brazzers etc, tend to develop a huge online following because those sites pull in way more traffic than probably all the tickling sites put together. A lot of models on tickle sites are relatively new to fetish and/or adult work and don't tend to have much of a history or profile compared with the bigger porn stars. There's not a lot of value in for most of them to develop a profile as a 'tickle model' since it doesn't bring in any more work than they are getting already (they can already contact producers for work) and they tend to get flooded with requests from tickle fans, who can be persistent and demanding towards models sometimes.
 
didates26 said:
Well "your favorite tickle model" isn't a tickle model at all LOL. She's just a sex worker

Maybe this type of discovery about a particular model they are obsessed with would encourage people to go out and engage in sessions and the real thing rather than live this fetish through the video clips

The models in the clips don't give a shit about tickling. They don't enjoy receiving it, they don't look forward to handing it out. It's a job, pure and simple. One might even argue they enjoy working on traditional porn much more than this.

The world created in clips doesn't exist
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They're rarely sex workers since escorts and porn stars tend to charge much higher rates across the board than other models. Most are just models who dabble in fetish stuff and sometimes adult levels too. I do agree with your general point that the fantasy world created by many fans is completely unrealistic however, in my experience, many models do find tickling more fun and enjoyable than the majority of fetish work and mainstream porn, simply because it is fun. That doesn't mean that they care about it in the way that tickle fans do, which is why a lot of models don't make very good tickle clips. Nevertheless, it is a shoot that most enjoy and many absolutely love doing.

Similarly, the majority of porn models I've worked will tell you that they shoot porn because they truly love it. It's not a job you can do for long if you don't enjoy it.
 
What a lot of folks don't understand (or admit) as of the last decade around here...is that like it or not, tickling FETISH is OUR porn! So a FETISH video is meant for what vanillas use porn for...to masturbate. Because we have this different kinda niche that doesn't require fucking, etc - that doesn't mean its not a form of porn. Sorry to wake some people up here. Just be proud of what ya like, what turns you on, and be yourself. Never feel bad about it...embrace it - that's how it used to be around here in the early days :)
 
I figure most women in the adult video industry look at tickling the way most women in the dating world do...it's a little different, but it's not nearly as weird as a lot of stuff that's out there.
 
Do you really think that women in porn make a lot of money?

How much money do you think the average woman gets to have sex on film? It's really disgusting low so yeah to subsidize income they have to do with whatever comes their way this industry is so saturated that how is anybody supposed to make money? With pirating nobody is making anything... yeah pornhub is nothing but pirated stuff unless you were going directly to the producers page. Those free clips that you watch are hurting the actress that you like the most and causing her to do things she doesn't want to do


Anybody in a clip is considered a sex worker a sex worker is a general term. So don't be surprised when your sex worker has multiple forms of income Revenue

Sex worker money feeds her family sex worker money pays her bills sex worker money helps her live she doesn't really care how she's perceived by her fans she's just trying to make a living

But everybody outside of the industry looking in seems to think that these women make a lot of money! They don't! And it keeps going down and down and down unless you're a top a-Lister.

There's no craft services there's no extra people on site it's usually just you and a camera guy and a tripod and a hotel room these women are trying to make money please don't look down on them for doing that anyway possible because don't forget according to the White House we still make $0.20 less than the dollar then a male. So please don't judge that 20% so harshly

She's just trying to survive

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As others have noted, this is a business, an assembly line, and to make a decent living, or even a side hustle, these models simply must do the fetish that's handed to them. Of course, they can refuse to do certain fetishes they find repellant, but no, I don't fault them for needing to be practical about it. I do admit, however, that I wish I knew which models were "into" our fetish----not that they are necessarily "acting" ticklish, but that I always wonder if their reactions involve being "turned on," or simply giggling and squirming merely from the sensations, in a business-like manner. I use certain formula for laying odds here-----the more tickling videos a model does, the more likely she's at least partially "into it." It's not foolproof, but it gives me something to work with. (and yes, I realize that over time, the model may develop a higher resistance to tickling, thereby making it an easier paycheck, but if the reactions look genuine, I suspend disbelief).
 
SxyFetishGirl said:
There's no craft services there's no extra people on site it's usually just you and a camera guy and a tripod and a hotel room these women are trying to make money please don't look down on them for doing that anyway possible because don't forget according to the White House we still make $0.20 less than the dollar then a male. So please don't judge that 20% so harshly

She's just trying to survive
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Makes me wonder why businesses (outside of the porn industry) don't just hire women. Given that they make less, wouldn't it be more cost effective?
 
ticklishess said:
Makes me wonder why businesses (outside of the porn industry) don't just hire women. Given that they make less, wouldn't it be more cost effective?
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That isn't how it works. Men and women are largely paid the same amount for doing the same jobs, the gender pay gap statistics are often misinterpreted as they represent what men and women earn on average and don't account for the different jobs they are doing - more men in highly paid, senior management positions for example, more women going into part-time work and general admin type jobs with limited opportunity for advancement. When you look at it purely in terms of $/per hour worked, the difference between men and women is only $0.02 now and in many jobs it will be non-existent.


'The controlled gender pay gap, which controls for a number of factors such as job title, years of experience, industry and location so that the only differentiation between workers is their gender, shrunk by just $0.008 since 2015. Women now make $0.98 for every dollar an equivalent man makes.'

https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap

Porn is one area where women make significant amounts of money as they can both self-produce and perform, whereas male performers really struggle for work. It's true that not everyone is earning huge dollars and there is a massive difference between top performers and less well-known actresses, but the larger porn stars are sometimes earning several hundred dollars per/hour, for full days of work shooting the harder levels - this is the reason many fetish and soft-adult level models make the transition to hardcore porn. Add that to the money made from webcam, customs, onlyfans, selling underwear and other items, private sessions, and so on and a lot of porn stars often make great money (for a limited time)
 
turtleboy said:
That isn't how it works. Men and women are largely paid the same amount for doing the same jobs, the gender pay gap statistics are often misinterpreted as they represent what men and women earn on average and don't account for the different jobs they are doing - more men in highly paid, senior management positions for example, more women going into part-time work and general admin type jobs with limited opportunity for advancement. When you look at it purely in terms of $/per hour worked, the difference between men and women is only $0.02 now and in many jobs it will be non-existent.
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This is a wonderfully stated fact!! Thank you for posting it.
 
ticklishess said:
This is a wonderfully stated fact!! Thank you for posting it.
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As long as you focus on cherry-picked stats, and ignore what the rest of the actual article says, sure...but that's a convo for another forum.
 
Wolf said:
As long as you focus on cherry-picked stats, and ignore what the rest of the actual article says, sure...but that's a convo for another forum.
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The article says a lot about the fact that women tend to work in lower-level, lower-paid positions than men and it discusses some of the reasons for that - which is as you pointed out, a discussion for another forum. I'm just responding to comments made earlier, suggesting that women earn $0.20 less per hour than men doing the same job....because that is cherry picking stats.



For what it's worth, adult/fetish modelling is one area where females generally earn considerably more than male equivalents and they have access to a lot more work.
 
turtleboy said:
That isn't how it works. Men and women are largely paid the same amount for doing the same jobs, the gender pay gap statistics are often misinterpreted as they represent what men and women earn on average and don't account for the different jobs they are doing - more men in highly paid, senior management positions for example, more women going into part-time work and general admin type jobs with limited opportunity for advancement. When you look at it purely in terms of $/per hour worked, the difference between men and women is only $0.02 now and in many jobs it will be non-existent.


'The controlled gender pay gap, which controls for a number of factors such as job title, years of experience, industry and location so that the only differentiation between workers is their gender, shrunk by just $0.008 since 2015. Women now make $0.98 for every dollar an equivalent man makes.'

https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap

Porn is one area where women make significant amounts of money as they can both self-produce and perform, whereas male performers really struggle for work. It's true that not everyone is earning huge dollars and there is a massive difference between top performers and less well-known actresses, but the larger porn stars are sometimes earning several hundred dollars per/hour, for full days of work shooting the harder levels - this is the reason many fetish and soft-adult level models make the transition to hardcore porn. Add that to the money made from webcam, customs, onlyfans, selling underwear and other items, private sessions, and so on and a lot of porn stars often make great money (for a limited time)
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Actually I have done a recent essay on this and the last year and I looked up all the stats according to the actual senses and according to the actual White House women are still paid $0.20 less the dollar than males at the same type of job in the same position so they're not cherry picking stats actually straight from the white house

And I do have those essays if anybody would like to read them with all of my citations no need to post it here but just know I've actually done the research in-depth thoroughly for college I don't need to redo that research for you guys here I really wish that you would just understand that women are always going to be paid less unless it is in the sex industry and that is why we are here!

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ticklishess said:
Makes me wonder why businesses (outside of the porn industry) don't just hire women. Given that they make less, wouldn't it be more cost effective?
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Because people always hire people who look like them old white men will hire old white men, middle-aged women will hire other middle-aged women because it's a familiarity thing and there's more men in a powerful position than women so therefore it's more difficult to get the same pay structure.

And they don't hire women because women have a risk of pregnancy which then the company has to pay for so they believe it's works out in their favor to not have to pay maternity leave or health insurance for now two people



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Certainly not the direction I thought this was going to go in, buuuuutttt... I do appreciate the feedback.

My take away from the comments so far, is that sex workers, generally, have no interest in the work they’re doing. They do it all to make money with no real passion for it, generally; but even then, it’s not a lot.

Their lack of pay, coupled with their disinterest in the work they do, appears to be a cycle that’s been repeating itself for some time now. Yet the industry remains overly saturated with sex workers who are generally underpaid, and disinterested in the work they do.

If the industry is as lousy as some of these comments suggest (particularly towards women), and history has the facts to back this, why do people continue to flood the porn industry?

I'm blessed enough to where I make a decent salary; and I've never had to get naked to make a dollar.
 
SxyFetishGirl said:
Actually I have done a recent essay on this and the last year and I looked up all the stats according to the actual senses and according to the actual White House women are still paid $0.20 less the dollar than males at the same type of job in the same position so they're not cherry picking stats actually straight from the white house

And I do have those essays if anybody would like to read them with all of my citations no need to post it here but just know I've actually done the research in-depth thoroughly for college I don't need to redo that research for you guys here I really wish that you would just understand that women are always going to be paid less unless it is in the sex industry and that is why we are here!

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Really? I don't know if you're referring to specific jobs in the White House itself, but other than in a few specific professional areas where salaries are discretionary, variable and undisclosed (contributing to the actual $0.02 difference), that would be very hard to pull off. the vast majority of jobs from street cleaners right the way through to surgeons and consultants have a fixed salary or hourly rate specified before application. This would mean that McDonalds or Starbucks have to have two different pay scales for male and female employees. It would mean that women coming in for interviews get told that they can expect less pay than advertised because of their gender. Or that men get a secret bonus. I've worked a hell out of a lot of jobs in my life time and I can't think of one example where my salary was different to female colleagues in the same positions.

I understand where you're coming from but the statistics are often misunderstood because research around the gender pay gap is more to do with looking at women not reaching such highly paid positions in society and trying to address this. Sites such as the one I quoted are actually there to raise awareness of the pay gap but even they make the distinction between the 'uncontrolled' pay gap stats that you're referring to and the 'controlled' pay gap.
 
lzamora said:
Their lack of pay, coupled with their disinterest in the work they do, appears to be a cycle that’s been repeating itself for some time now. Yet the industry remains overly saturated with sex workers who are generally underpaid, and disinterested in the work they do.

If the industry is as lousy as some of these comments suggest (particularly towards women), and history has the facts to back this, why do people continue to flood the porn industry?

I'm blessed enough to where I make a decent salary; and I've never had to get naked to make a dollar.
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I don't know where your getting this notion from but women working in the sex industry are far from underpaid. For many, it's an extremely lucrative industry, which is why women leave other jobs to do this kind of work all the time. Firstly, sex workers and models are self-employed - they set their own rates of pay in line with industry expectations. Even new fetish models, shooting only the softest levels (and not getting naked) will still earn 5-10 times your nation minimum hourly wage shooting for websites. Escorts and high earning porn stars can expect to make 20-30 times that. Take into account models doing private sessions, webcam, and producing their own content, customs as well as selling used clothing and other items, and they very often make very good money. It's likely that many make far more than you do in your salaried job to be honest. Bear in mind that many models get paid in cash at the shoot and very many of the models I work with pay little to no tax on their earnings.

Not to mention gifts, 'tributes', pay pigs, cash-point meets...I know models that have guys paying their rent for months at a time and nearly all of the models I work with receive financial tributes at some time. This may be more of a UK phenomenon but I'm pretty sure the financial stuff goes on in the US too.

Lots of money can be earned by models in this industry and there is a huge difference between those that work hard and put themselves out there to get work and those that just take a few jobs a month if they're nearby and don't have to travel. Nobody has to get naked to earn a dollar but they can choose to and many do because it works for them. I also don't think that the industry is lousy but there are lousy producers and lousy models in it. Not to mention difficult fans or customers, fraudsters, scammers, piracy etc. That's just the inevitable downside of having so much freedom.
 
Thank you for your insight. I was merely going based off of some of the comments made on this thread. I can also see where you, Turtleboy, are coming from. Women, generally speaking, don't engage in career paths that are as lucrative as men. Most of my friends, with the exception of a few, are looking to become grade school educators. It's no secret that a teacher's salary is much less than that of say a doctor, or lawyer to name a few.

And I can understand there being stray marginal cases where two people of different genders, who hold the same title, have unequal pay, but there are a number of factors that have to be considered before we can jump to the conclusion that discrimination is the motivation.
 
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