Again, what relevance does that stat (80% sexual assaults go unreported) have to do with this case? It's cute virtue signaling though.
"Virtue Signaling"? Seriously? You scorn the idea of caring about the victims?
Again, what relevance does that stat (80% sexual assaults go unreported) have to do with this case? It's cute virtue signaling though.
It was obviously effective enough to incapacitate her, as the article states. The article even states she, "came to" insinuating she was unconscious for a time.
"Virtue Signaling"? Seriously? You scorn the idea of caring about the victims?
Incapacitated is not the same thing as unconscious.
I'm missing the connection here between you posting that link and you actually caring about the victims.
If I post 23 links about charities for homeless, does that make me that much more virtuous than you?
Now post a link showing how many innocent people get arrested, or that side (50%) of the equation is irrelevant to you?
Again, what relevance does that stat (80% sexual assaults go unreported) have to do with this case? It's cute virtue signaling though.
The article used, "incapacitated" to describe the state of her being during the attack. Later the article says she, "came to" suggesting she'd been unconscious for a time.
Marijuana, when orally ingested, sometimes has effects lasting longer than several hours.
In that state of being, coupled with her handicap, I'm surprised she was able to maintain a level of awareness for her to get around in what I presume are unfamiliar grounds.
You have a strange (but not unfamiliar) literal interpretation of words, while ignoring the context. You focus on your interpretations of terms, and don't take the rest of the information into account.
What definition of, "came to" would you assign, considering the context of this article?
It's like people who use SJW as an insult - as if it's insulting to be accused of valuing virtue and arguing for social justice.
Okay, lemme spell it out.
Victims of sexual assault don't report their assaults the majority of the time (80%) because of attitudes and statements like the ones you and others have shown here.
Clear enough?
Now, go ahead and whine about the poor, underappreciated rapists some more.
People who immediately call the victim into question are part of the reason 80% of such cases go unreported. That's the connection.
It may or may not be relevant to this case, but it's definitely relevant to this discussion.
I like that you think virtue signalling is bad though. It's like people who use SJW as an insult - as if it's insulting to be accused of valuing virtue and arguing for social justice.
Allow me to educate you. You are conflating two things: percent on unreported cases & the reason for unreporting is because of "attitudes" like mine. Surely you understand there are multiple reasons not to report a crime, right?
But more importantly, what are these attitudes that you alluded? The fact that I want to hear from both sides before making a judgment call? The fact that I said that there is a 90% chance that he did it?
I don't really want to partake in this discussion, but you raised an interesting point. And reminded me of this hilarious John Kovalic piece:
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As someone "from the other side" I am very tempted to clarify why it is indeed an insult, but I do not want to derail the thread nor do I want to write things you might judge would be better saved for the P&R.
"I am very tempted to clarify why it is indeed an insult, but I do not want to derail the thread" - please do.
Jesus Christ. Really?
If someone "comes to their senses" does it mean they were unconscious before that?
Incapacitation means someone is not in full control of themselves and cannot function normally, due to any number of conditions or circumstances, temporarily or permanent.
Sure a person can, "come to their senses" and not be unconscious. But, do you think that applies in a scenario where a victim is drugged?
And if incapacitation means someone is not in full control of themselves and cannot function normally, how are those conditions anything other than a hindrance to anyone; let alone a legally blind person on unfamiliar grounds trying to escape her rapist?
You're arguing a different point than you started with. Your contention is that she was unconscious, based on your interpretation.
As someone "from the other side" I am very tempted to clarify why it is indeed an insult, but I do not want to derail the thread nor do I want to write things you might judge would be better saved for the P&R.
Right. So, what are you implying?"The fact that you compared this case to the Duke Lacrosse Case." - people were accused of rape. It was later learned that it was a lie.
Not true. The article included his version of events, as he told them to police."That fact that you won't even acknowledge the victim's side." - the article gave 100% of her side, nothing more I can add.
Jesus Christ. Really?
If someone "comes to their senses" does it mean they were unconscious before that?
Incapacitation means someone is not in full control of themselves and cannot function normally, due to any number of conditions or circumstances, temporarily or permanent.
Hey, fighter for women, is this a respectful way to talk to an actual woman, Mr. "Jesus Christ, really"?
Hey, fighter for women, is this a respectful way to talk to an actual woman, Mr. "Jesus Christ, really"?
Funny comic. It feels a lot like that.
I'm not obtuse, I know why people think it's an insult. But if it feels like a compliment to the person you pitch it at...
It would be like if a vanilla person tried to insult me by implying that I'm a filthy person, saying "You have a tickling fetish!"
Same reaction in both cases - "Yes. Correct. And I've learned something about you by the fact that you thought that was an insult."