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Am i alone on this???

"Just a heads up, if you see a clip that mentions rent not being paid or sorority sisters, it's probably not true."

Thats the energy im referring too. Not an illogical leap

I stayed in the ballpark of tickle vids though at least instead of bringing up underage material and creep shots. That seems to be off topic too?
 
This thread is not "poorly thought out" at all.

If someone is irresponsible enough to go to great lengths to make it appear (?) they are seriously torturing very young, naive "women" and from another country to boot, who perhaps would not be comfortable complaining, they're asking to be put under a microscope.

And stopping a full 2.5 minutes after a Safeword? With young women he claims aren't aware how bad it can get? That can cause a medical emergency...
Even if it's BS, it's disgustingly irresponsible to promote that.

And this site is supposedly regulated by "the Golden Rule," so whoever argued that such behavior is against basic standards should also be correct.

Holy shit you exist <3
 
I stayed in the ballpark of tickle vids though at least instead of bringing up underage material and creep shots. That seems to be off topic too?

My point was your acting like im vanilla to all this and that i dont know that people will paint these pictures of "suprise" or nonconsesual tickles for the views
 
If his videos are just fantasy scenarios and his video descriptions are just sales pitches, I will rescind my earlier comment.

Though I have an extreme distaste for real life non-con situations and and even non-con fantasy stuff makes me uncomfortable, I'm not here to judge other people's preferences as long as it's fantasy and all individuals involved are on the same page. However, I do believe that safe words and boundaries set by 'lees/models need to be respected by producers. I've heard murmurs of this being an issue, but with the internet being the way it is separating fact and fiction can be impossible. I also don't like when people are tricked into participating in something when the underlying purpose is sexual in nature (renfaire tickling, for example).
 
So... I found the thread VegLife has been referencing, and I have to say, after reading it I have to say I kind of agree with his thoughts on the store and the image it is sending.

Here's a link to the other thread: http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?318560-New-VIDEOS-of-ticklish-girl-tickled-tortured

After reading this I have to think that either this producer is doing some shady things, he has a very poor grasp of the English language, or he is really going all out to promote his 'gimmick.'
 
So... I found the thread VegLife has been referencing, and I have to say, after reading it I have to say I kind of agree with his thoughts on the store and the image it is sending.

Here's a link to the other thread: http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?318560-New-VIDEOS-of-ticklish-girl-tickled-tortured

After reading this I have to think that either this producer is doing some shady things, he has a very poor grasp of the English language, or he is really going all out to promote his 'gimmick.'


Thank you for sharing the original thread.

I didn't read everyone's comments in this thread I'm replying to now so unsure what has already been said.

The question is - does this person just have terrible English/communication? Or are they actually saying that they tricked young girls and then coerced them into signing consent after the fact? Or is it just a poorly thought out story to make the videos seem more appealing?

Either way - I don't think it should be promoted front page of TMF (if that's where it is at the moment). I mean, it's not up to me haha but if it were, I wouldn't consider this a good option for promotion.

"To be honest I made these videos for me, and only now I decide to sell and to also invest more in this "job".
... most of them will be cheaper like the ones of innocent young Maria ... But few of them (very few) are unfortunately horrible expensive … and it is not really easy to explane why… In some case when is really non-consensual tickle or like a candid-camera ... then after that for have the authorization is quite difficult, complicate and expencive … an example, if I have a new girlfriend that hates be tickled and I tie tickle her with the excuse of sex and then I tickle torture crazy for 1 hour, then belive me that for have the authorization to publish, to have that "sign on a piece of paper" that of course Clips4Sales needs, I have to spent a fortune… more, much more, of what I can earn selling few videos..."
 
Yes, based on the thread provided by TiCKleMaN87 it's apparent that, if this is just a fantasy/marketing tactic, he's very committed to it. I'm now feeling somewhat confused and uncertain about this whole thing and I regret commenting in the first place.

I think I'll give this thread, and maybe all of TMF, a rest for a while.

"i've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate...All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..." - Blade Runner (1982)
 
Yes, based on the thread provided by TiCKleMaN87 it's apparent that, if this is just a fantasy/marketing tactic, he's very committed to it. I'm now feeling somewhat confused and uncertain about this whole thing and I regret commenting in the first place.

I think I'll give this thread, and maybe all of TMF, a rest for a while.

"i've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate...All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..." - Blade Runner (1982)

Being committed to a fantasy/marketing tactic isn't new, or even uncommon; there's a Russian studio that claims to be a totally legitimate therapeutic business that just happens to sell videos of their procedures, and a dude who pretends to be stalking and taking photos of women with bare feet, and they smile and wink when they catch him. 'Cause that happens.
 
It's being advertised because dude paid for his ad to be there.

I know you don't like it, but I don't see why it has to be removed. You are literally the only one concerned as if you believe these women were actually harmed despite no *real* indication of such. If there was something criminal going on, seems like it would be kind of silly to put the details of the crime in the description of your porn vids that you're selling.

But ultimately, there's nothing wrong or illegal about it. What sucks is this fascist, Tipper Gore type of censoring vibe.

Honestly, who else cares? No one. And who are you to in one breath say it's wrong, the next to admit you haven't been here long, and the very next demand they be taken down from the sidebar?

Like do you pay to use this site?

The part I've bolded is probably the best thing said in this thread. Hopefully the admins aren't swayed by the would-be censors in here.
 
I already basically said im gonna leave based on the response, i just wanted to know if this qoute from the producer represents you guys.

"To be honest I made these videos for me, and only now I decide to sell and to also invest more in this "job".
Fortunately I have very professional cameras from a company I work for, that I can rent for cheap price (in these videos I use a very professional camera, what was not professional was the cameraman, thats is me haha).

I will update soon more few videos (I already have, I have just to editing) and most of them will be cheaper like the ones of innocent young Maria and of horrible ticklish Marta. But few of them (very few) are unfortunately horrible expensive … and it is not really easy to explane why…
In some case when is really non-consensual tickle or like a candid-camera or the girl think that must be tickled because it is really a therapy she needs, then after that for have the authorization is quite difficult, complicate and expencive …

I make an example, if I have a new girlfriend that hates be tickled and I tie tickle her with the excuse of sex and then I tickle torture crazy for 1 hour, then belive me that for have the authorization to publish, to have that "sign on a piece of paper" that of course Clips4Sales needs, I have to spent a fortune… more, much more, of what I can earn selling few videos..."

The only question i have now, does it bother you being up in front representing your forum AT All, just a simple "yes it does" or "no it doesnt" is what im paying attention for now
 
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I already basically said im gonna leave based on the response, i just wanted to know if this qoute from the producer represents you guys.

"To be honest I made these videos for me, and only now I decide to sell and to also invest more in this "job".
Fortunately I have very professional cameras from a company I work for, that I can rent for cheap price (in these videos I use a very professional camera, what was not professional was the cameraman, thats is me haha).

I will update soon more few videos (I already have, I have just to editing) and most of them will be cheaper like the ones of innocent young Maria and of horrible ticklish Marta. But few of them (very few) are unfortunately horrible expensive … and it is not really easy to explane why…
In some case when is really non-consensual tickle or like a candid-camera or the girl think that must be tickled because it is really a therapy she needs, then after that for have the authorization is quite difficult, complicate and expencive …

I make an example, if I have a new girlfriend that hates be tickled and I tie tickle her with the excuse of sex and then I tickle torture crazy for 1 hour, then belive me that for have the authorization to publish, to have that "sign on a piece of paper" that of course Clips4Sales needs, I have to spent a fortune… more, much more, of what I can earn selling few videos..."

The only question i have now, does it bother you being up in front representing your forum AT All, just a simple "yes it does" or "no it doesnt" is what im paying attention for now

Why do so many TMF “goodbye forever, I’m leaving” dramas take so damn long?
 
Verbally abusing potential customers while lying isn't good for business.

It's being advertised because dude paid for his ad to be there.

I know you don't like it, but I don't see why it has to be removed. You are literally the only one concerned as if you believe these women were actually harmed despite no *real* indication of such. If there was something criminal going on, seems like it would be kind of silly to put the details of the crime in the description of your porn vids that you're selling.

But ultimately, there's nothing wrong or illegal about it. What sucks is this fascist, Tipper Gore type of censoring vibe.

Honestly, who else cares? No one. And who are you to in one breath say it's wrong, the next to admit you haven't been here long, and the very next demand they be taken down from the sidebar?

Like do you pay to use this site?
The part I've bolded is probably the best thing said in this thread. Hopefully the admins aren't swayed by the would-be censors in here.

"The best thing said" doesn't make sense. Fascists are usually the ones doing the torturing & there are no matronly prohibitionists here.
Certainly nobody can look at what I've foolishly posted on this site and call me a prude.


"Who else cares?" Anyone who's glanced at this WELL THOUGHT OUT THREAD can clearly see there are numerous people who have expressed concern, especially considering the producer in question makes a big deal about the model's INABILITY TO BREATHE amongst other seriously questionable claims.


And anyone who's been on this site since 2003 as Chicago has been, also knows very well there are A LOT MORE people who have expressed disgust OVER ALMOST 2 DECADES regarding video producers who seem to be pushing real non-con, claiming to navigate the fine line between "legal" manipulation & drooling assault.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN over the years, *especially with regard to the use of (very young...) "women" from OTHER COUNTRIES.


Yes, there's no proof, which is why it's continued, which is why many just ignore it & assume it's all marketing --- that doesn't make it right, that doesn't mean it's not irresponsible if not actually illegal or unethical. And that "dude" has also wiped his face out of his videos.


"Like do you pay to use this site?"
LIKE are you PAID to be an EDITOR by the owner? (To be rude?) If you're going to continue to verbally abuse potential customers....

Does payment validate someone's observations?

That attitude is ALSO precisely why there are a lot of people who do not wish to be further associated, who don't wish to become "Patrons," who don't wish to be connected via payments, credit cards, personal information ---- to a site that promotes producers who announce they don't care about whether or not a young foreigner can ******* breathe in their crude videos.

This is why I usually go for illustrations.

This is why people leave this site for years.

This is why people don't want to become patrons & have a financial link to anything questionable. Especially when said site is also represented by rude, inaccurate "editors."
 
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The owner doesn't pay me. I don't work for TMF or represent the site in any way. Big oof.
 
Very small "oof," you do edit for MTJ, the primary Sponsor. Every other point clearly stands.
 
Very small "oof," you do edit for MTJ, the primary Sponsor. Every other point clearly stands.

Pretty sure c4s is the primary "sponsor".

0 for 2

There's really no other points made there.

Not to mention highjacking the thread from it's original topic
 
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Pretty sure c4s is the primary "sponsor".

0 for 2

There's really no other points made there.

Not to mention highjacking the thread from it's original topic

Even if you didn't represent a major sponsor, and you do, you've been incredibly rude to members with legitimate concerns about models' well being,
attacking people with irrelevant questions & accusations,
& have spewed obviously false statements throughout. I'm not wasting more time with this petty nonsense, I said enough above.
 
Even if you didn't represent a major sponsor, and you do, you've been incredibly rude to members with legitimate concerns about models' well being,
attacking people with irrelevant questions & accusations,
& have spewed obviously false statements throughout. I'm not wasting more time with this petty nonsense, I said enough above.

Are you sure?
 
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