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The curiously male-centric world of f/m tickle torture

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Hi there. I've been into this stuff for pretty much my whole life, but I haven't interacted with the community hardly at all. I've only made a few posts here and I've just about never actually engaged with other people. IDK, it's just always felt like something very private to me.

But recently I've committed to exploring more, and being more engaged, and interacting more with the community. So here I am.

I am a switch at heart, but f/m was my first exposure to this world and remains my first love. But I've noticed a real gap between what attracts me to f/m tickle torture and what the market for such content provides. The more I've committed to really analyzing my interest in tickle torture, the more obvious it's become to me how male-centered the market for tickle torture material is.

I do want to be clear that I'm not criticizing producers or consumers. If everybody felt like I do then the demand and the supply would go up. The fact that the market doesn't cater to me just means what I'm getting out of this is different than what a lot of other people are getting out of it.

My infatuation with being tickle tortured by a woman, I've found, is almost entirely dependent on how much gratification she gets from the infliction of it. I'm drawn to the idea of a woman feeling intimate enough and caring enough to commit to the idea of breaking my will and my mind through the application of tickling (or other pleasurable sensations). Of her getting to know my mind and body well enough to truly torture both of them right to the edge. My interest in all of this is directly related to hers.

But when I try to find f/m content that reflects that, it just seems so obvious that my understanding of this kink is not what this market is catering to. Where my obsession with f/m tickling is centered on the experience of the 'ler, almost all of the material I can find clearly centers the guy's experience. That's not to say the women aren't willing participants or having a good time, but it's the dude who by and large ends up getting off on it (in fact a huge portion of these videos end with the guy literally getting off on it). The guy is the one who's depicted as being "into it." His experience is centered.

There are some exceptions. I dearly love Yahara's work at X-feathers, and if any of this resonates with you you should check it out. You can tell every time she tortures a helpless guy that she's doing it because SHE likes it, not because HE does. His desires are immaterial, she's going to do what she wants until she's satisfied and that's that. He's an object of her pleasure, not the other way around. There are a few other examples that hop to mind, but they're the exception that proves the rule. Unless there's some treasure trove of female-centric f/m stuff out there, I'm just more and more convinced it doesn't exist. And if that's true then I suppose what I'm saying is maybe there are two different species of f/m tickle kinks.

I'm excited by the thought of a woman being excited by torturing me. I guess maybe that's not the same thing as being excited by a woman torturing me. Does that make sense, or am I rambling? I guess what I'm saying is, the key elements of all this for me are 1. a woman who derives immense gratification from inflicting these sensations on a man, 2. obviously the restraints and time required to make the lee really feel and experience the torment and suffering, and 3. a content producer dedicated to centering that ler's experience in the whole enterprise.

Or maybe I'm just overthinking like always, but this has been my (long, at least as a consumer/lurker) experience in this world. I suppose I intend this thread to be a conversation prompt, a market plea, a request for recommendations if this reminds anyone of any content they're aware of, an introduction of sorts to the TMF community (hi!), and maybe a personal ad too (hey.) if this resonates with you 'lers.

Anyway, this site has given me a lot of entertainment over the decades, so thanks.
 
Hi there. I've been into this stuff for pretty much my whole life, but I haven't interacted with the community hardly at all. I've only made a few posts here and I've just about never actually engaged with other people. IDK, it's just always felt like something very private to me.

But recently I've committed to exploring more, and being more engaged, and interacting more with the community. So here I am.

I am a switch at heart, but f/m was my first exposure to this world and remains my first love. But I've noticed a real gap between what attracts me to f/m tickle torture and what the market for such content provides. The more I've committed to really analyzing my interest in tickle torture, the more obvious it's become to me how male-centered the market for tickle torture material is.

I do want to be clear that I'm not criticizing producers or consumers. If everybody felt like I do then the demand and the supply would go up. The fact that the market doesn't cater to me just means what I'm getting out of this is different than what a lot of other people are getting out of it.

My infatuation with being tickle tortured by a woman, I've found, is almost entirely dependent on how much gratification she gets from the infliction of it. I'm drawn to the idea of a woman feeling intimate enough and caring enough to commit to the idea of breaking my will and my mind through the application of tickling (or other pleasurable sensations). Of her getting to know my mind and body well enough to truly torture both of them right to the edge. My interest in all of this is directly related to hers.

But when I try to find f/m content that reflects that, it just seems so obvious that my understanding of this kink is not what this market is catering to. Where my obsession with f/m tickling is centered on the experience of the 'ler, almost all of the material I can find clearly centers the guy's experience. That's not to say the women aren't willing participants or having a good time, but it's the dude who by and large ends up getting off on it (in fact a huge portion of these videos end with the guy literally getting off on it). The guy is the one who's depicted as being "into it." His experience is centered.

There are some exceptions. I dearly love Yahara's work at X-feathers, and if any of this resonates with you you should check it out. You can tell every time she tortures a helpless guy that she's doing it because SHE likes it, not because HE does. His desires are immaterial, she's going to do what she wants until she's satisfied and that's that. He's an object of her pleasure, not the other way around. There are a few other examples that hop to mind, but they're the exception that proves the rule. Unless there's some treasure trove of female-centric f/m stuff out there, I'm just more and more convinced it doesn't exist. And if that's true then I suppose what I'm saying is maybe there are two different species of f/m tickle kinks.

I'm excited by the thought of a woman being excited by torturing me. I guess maybe that's not the same thing as being excited by a woman torturing me. Does that make sense, or am I rambling? I guess what I'm saying is, the key elements of all this for me are 1. a woman who derives immense gratification from inflicting these sensations on a man, 2. obviously the restraints and time required to make the lee really feel and experience the torment and suffering, and 3. a content producer dedicated to centering that ler's experience in the whole enterprise.

Or maybe I'm just overthinking like always, but this has been my (long, at least as a consumer/lurker) experience in this world. I suppose I intend this thread to be a conversation prompt, a market plea, a request for recommendations if this reminds anyone of any content they're aware of, an introduction of sorts to the TMF community (hi!), and maybe a personal ad too (hey.) if this resonates with you 'lers.

Anyway, this site has given me a lot of entertainment over the decades, so thanks.

I feel pretty much the same way, with the addition that both parties need to enjoy it equally. Yes, the girl has to be into it herself, AND into pleasing the guy. Actually applies to either gender as Lee and Ler, but especially f/m. Yes, it seems like there is a limited choice of good f/m content, but it’s there if you look hard enough (pun intended! &#55357;&#56841;). That’s why I enjoy the Stories section (both true and fiction) so much. This site has also given me a lot of entertainment, and several good people to chat with.
 
I do think Tickle Torture does well in having both the male lee and the female ler(s) share the same amount of spotlight. Many of the women there, especially Charlee Chase herself, show a great deal of enjoyment in tickling their male lees. They know they have a man strapped/stocked at their beck and call so they are going to tickle the crap out of him for as long they want. ;) Their content is worth checking out if you haven't already! But yeah, good F/M seems to be a lot harder to find sometimes.
 
I find most f/m vids disappointing, with a few exceptions. I like pleasure for both parties, albeit very torturous for the male. I do want her to enjoy torturing me, though. Any activity with a partner who isn't into it (even if it's not abusive, because they're in the dominant position) is going to be an underwhelming experience if they're not getting off on it. Both need to be completely digging it, which for me is the point of all sexual activity - make each other feel good.
 
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Hi there. I've been into this stuff for pretty much my whole life, but I haven't interacted with the community hardly at all. I've only made a few posts here and I've just about never actually engaged with other people. IDK, it's just always felt like something very private to me.

But recently I've committed to exploring more, and being more engaged, and interacting more with the community. So here I am.

I am a switch at heart, but f/m was my first exposure to this world and remains my first love. But I've noticed a real gap between what attracts me to f/m tickle torture and what the market for such content provides. The more I've committed to really analyzing my interest in tickle torture, the more obvious it's become to me how male-centered the market for tickle torture material is.

I do want to be clear that I'm not criticizing producers or consumers. If everybody felt like I do then the demand and the supply would go up. The fact that the market doesn't cater to me just means what I'm getting out of this is different than what a lot of other people are getting out of it.

My infatuation with being tickle tortured by a woman, I've found, is almost entirely dependent on how much gratification she gets from the infliction of it. I'm drawn to the idea of a woman feeling intimate enough and caring enough to commit to the idea of breaking my will and my mind through the application of tickling (or other pleasurable sensations). Of her getting to know my mind and body well enough to truly torture both of them right to the edge. My interest in all of this is directly related to hers.

But when I try to find f/m content that reflects that, it just seems so obvious that my understanding of this kink is not what this market is catering to. Where my obsession with f/m tickling is centered on the experience of the 'ler, almost all of the material I can find clearly centers the guy's experience. That's not to say the women aren't willing participants or having a good time, but it's the dude who by and large ends up getting off on it (in fact a huge portion of these videos end with the guy literally getting off on it). The guy is the one who's depicted as being "into it." His experience is centered.

There are some exceptions. I dearly love Yahara's work at X-feathers, and if any of this resonates with you you should check it out. You can tell every time she tortures a helpless guy that she's doing it because SHE likes it, not because HE does. His desires are immaterial, she's going to do what she wants until she's satisfied and that's that. He's an object of her pleasure, not the other way around. There are a few other examples that hop to mind, but they're the exception that proves the rule. Unless there's some treasure trove of female-centric f/m stuff out there, I'm just more and more convinced it doesn't exist. And if that's true then I suppose what I'm saying is maybe there are two different species of f/m tickle kinks.

I'm excited by the thought of a woman being excited by torturing me. I guess maybe that's not the same thing as being excited by a woman torturing me. Does that make sense, or am I rambling? I guess what I'm saying is, the key elements of all this for me are 1. a woman who derives immense gratification from inflicting these sensations on a man, 2. obviously the restraints and time required to make the lee really feel and experience the torment and suffering, and 3. a content producer dedicated to centering that ler's experience in the whole enterprise.

Or maybe I'm just overthinking like always, but this has been my (long, at least as a consumer/lurker) experience in this world. I suppose I intend this thread to be a conversation prompt, a market plea, a request for recommendations if this reminds anyone of any content they're aware of, an introduction of sorts to the TMF community (hi!), and maybe a personal ad too (hey.) if this resonates with you 'lers.

Anyway, this site has given me a lot of entertainment over the decades, so thanks.

Oh my god, I agree with this so hard. I have seen a lot of f/m vids (and I mean a lot XD) And as a female ler I always have a hard time finding one where the woman looks like she's enjoying herself the way that I would if I were her. There are plenty of enjoyable f/m videos, but most of them don't have that...VIBE that I can relate to.
 
Oh my god, I agree with this so hard. I have seen a lot of f/m vids (and I mean a lot XD) And as a female ler I always have a hard time finding one where the woman looks like she's enjoying herself the way that I would if I were her. There are plenty of enjoyable f/m videos, but most of them don't have that...VIBE that I can relate to.


Yeah, as a male 'lee, I want the lady torturing me to enjoy it. I love submission to a woman, and part of that is that she really enjoys dominating me. This is a bit less easy to achieve with tickling than with some other forms of play. If she sits on my face I can give her an orgasm, but when she tickles me I'm getting all the physical sensations.
 
I think it's possible that most of the female lers out there in the video world probably get a lil too bored to look like they are thoroughly enjoying being the ler , because of the overwhelming one sided lack of response they get from the male lees as opposed to the much greater response the males generally gets from the female lee's when the roles are reversed.
 
As others mentione, most F/M tickilng videos are 10% tickling and 90% handjobs.
 
Hi there. I've been into this stuff for pretty much my whole life, but I haven't interacted with the community hardly at all. I've only made a few posts here and I've just about never actually engaged with other people. IDK, it's just always felt like something very private to me.

But recently I've committed to exploring more, and being more engaged, and interacting more with the community. So here I am.

I am a switch at heart, but f/m was my first exposure to this world and remains my first love. But I've noticed a real gap between what attracts me to f/m tickle torture and what the market for such content provides. The more I've committed to really analyzing my interest in tickle torture, the more obvious it's become to me how male-centered the market for tickle torture material is.

I do want to be clear that I'm not criticizing producers or consumers. If everybody felt like I do then the demand and the supply would go up. The fact that the market doesn't cater to me just means what I'm getting out of this is different than what a lot of other people are getting out of it.

My infatuation with being tickle tortured by a woman, I've found, is almost entirely dependent on how much gratification she gets from the infliction of it. I'm drawn to the idea of a woman feeling intimate enough and caring enough to commit to the idea of breaking my will and my mind through the application of tickling (or other pleasurable sensations). Of her getting to know my mind and body well enough to truly torture both of them right to the edge. My interest in all of this is directly related to hers.

But when I try to find f/m content that reflects that, it just seems so obvious that my understanding of this kink is not what this market is catering to. Where my obsession with f/m tickling is centered on the experience of the 'ler, almost all of the material I can find clearly centers the guy's experience. That's not to say the women aren't willing participants or having a good time, but it's the dude who by and large ends up getting off on it (in fact a huge portion of these videos end with the guy literally getting off on it). The guy is the one who's depicted as being "into it." His experience is centered.

There are some exceptions. I dearly love Yahara's work at X-feathers, and if any of this resonates with you you should check it out. You can tell every time she tortures a helpless guy that she's doing it because SHE likes it, not because HE does. His desires are immaterial, she's going to do what she wants until she's satisfied and that's that. He's an object of her pleasure, not the other way around. There are a few other examples that hop to mind, but they're the exception that proves the rule. Unless there's some treasure trove of female-centric f/m stuff out there, I'm just more and more convinced it doesn't exist. And if that's true then I suppose what I'm saying is maybe there are two different species of f/m tickle kinks.

I'm excited by the thought of a woman being excited by torturing me. I guess maybe that's not the same thing as being excited by a woman torturing me. Does that make sense, or am I rambling? I guess what I'm saying is, the key elements of all this for me are 1. a woman who derives immense gratification from inflicting these sensations on a man, 2. obviously the restraints and time required to make the lee really feel and experience the torment and suffering, and 3. a content producer dedicated to centering that ler's experience in the whole enterprise.

Or maybe I'm just overthinking like always, but this has been my (long, at least as a consumer/lurker) experience in this world. I suppose I intend this thread to be a conversation prompt, a market plea, a request for recommendations if this reminds anyone of any content they're aware of, an introduction of sorts to the TMF community (hi!), and maybe a personal ad too (hey.) if this resonates with you 'lers.

Anyway, this site has given me a lot of entertainment over the decades, so thanks.

The market for F/M material is male-centred because (as with most porn) it is almost exclusively males that buy it. That said, I feel that most men are focused on the female in the video anyway, as with any kind of femdom scenario. What you are basically looking for are F/M videos where the female 'ler specifically shares your fetish. You're not likely to find that in a professional video with models, since the vast majority of women do not share this particular fetish. The chances of finding a female model who actually feels the same way about tickling as you do, is very slim. It's a bit like saying 'I want to watch great videos where women shove balloons up their asses and pop them.' and then feeling disappointed that the women in those videos aren't as aroused by the experience as you are. They may be great at popping balloons and they may be having loads of fun but that doesn't mean they're going to get turned on.

The best solution is to stick to videos made by couples who are tickle fetishists, or female dommes who specifically enjoy tickling as a fetish. There may not be as much choice and the production values won't always be the same, but at least they're more likely to share some of your feelings.

As for how the models feel in an F/M vid, chances are they are enjoying themselves (in my experience models generally love getting payback). It just isn't sexual enjoyment any more than it would be for any other member of the public. Remember, most people find tickling others to be a lot of fun, but that doesn't mean they get turned on by it.
 
As others mentione, most F/M tickilng videos are 10% tickling and 90% handjobs.

That is sadly the case. I personally find handjob videos extremely boring, especially if they're not what I'm looking for. And if they take up majority of the video leaving the tickling stuff only a few minutes to shine, thats a major problem.

Its why I prefer mostly feet tickling in F/M. They focus solely (no pun intended haha) on the tickling which is what I want. :D
 
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