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Cherie Deville admitted she's not ticklish on TikTok

I totally agree. In fact I'll go farther: in that one TA clip she's so great I don't believe at all that she could be faking. But if she is...

Great job as an actress and no problem here! I never worry about whether reactions are "real" (as if we could know) unless they seem off to me. Any fun, cute, sexy laughter and squirming, I'll take it!
 
Wait whaaat? One vid she's being tickled by Kelly Lynn Sage.. if that's fake laughter, then she's one hell of an actress.
 
I don't know... If she's genuinely not just trolling in that tiktok, I sort of feel like anyone that's purchased a clip with her in it has been ripped off at least a little. It looks real, in her case very real, but ultimately is fake. Like the higher quality counterfeit goods you see being seized on airport programmes. Then of course there's the studio/s potentially lying to people about it being real, etc. Maybe that's just the nature of porn, though. But definitely a big part of why I rarely buy any clips.
 
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I actually never doubted that. When you do tickle therapy like we do, with real people, you can tell whether it's real or fake.
Professional models often tend to fake to please the audience, and the producer too (they do it for money). So in fact they can deceive the producer, who will be confident that he doesn't do clips with faking. Except that he does.

However, when we give tickle therapy it's absolutely real because our patients don't know how they will react and how they should react. They often try to resist the tickling instead. But they can't resist for long :)
 
I don't know... If she's genuinely not just trolling in that tiktok, I sort of feel like anyone that's purchased a clip with her in it has been ripped off at least a little. It looks real, in her case very real, but ultimately is fake. Like the higher quality counterfeit goods you see being seized on airport programmes. Then of course there's the studio/s potentially lying to people about it being real, etc. Maybe that's just the nature of porn, though. But definitely a big part of why I rarely buy any clips.

I jokingly replied to her video saying I was gonna delete her tickle videos and she replied "lol". I don't think she cares.
 
Does it make more sense to believe a model when she says she is not ticklish than it does when she says she is?
There is a good chance that if they are no longer interested in doing tickle videos that they get tired of inquires about it just they did decide to say they are not actually ticklish and minimize future tickling inquiries. If you enjoy her reactions don't worry about whether or not she is actually ticklish.
 
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I saw the image, but did not watch a video of her admission.

Are we sure she wasn’t trolling or being ironic?

I saw her in a Kink.com video with Elyse Graves and one of the male doms. A video where the emphasis was not tickling. But, when they started messing with her feet, she cracked up.

If it’s acting, then give her an Oscar! And so what if it’s acting? Suspend your disbelief and enjoy the show.
 
Stuff like this is why you have to cherish legitimately ticklish models like Tasha. Fake tickling videos are the worse, I know the majority of guys don't care, but I can't stand seeing someone pretending to be ticklish. Even the overraction by models that might be ticklish like Kelli Sage is unwatchable for me. I prefer legitimately ticklish models, even if they aren't the most ticklish, genuine reactions will always be better.
 
Stuff like this is why you have to cherish legitimately ticklish models like Tasha. Fake tickling videos are the worse, I know the majority of guys don't care, but I can't stand seeing someone pretending to be ticklish. Even the overraction by models that might be ticklish like Kelli Sage is unwatchable for me. I prefer legitimately ticklish models, even if they aren't the most ticklish, genuine reactions will always be better.
I'm with you on this. What's the fun if it doesn't tickle?
 
I actually never doubted that. When you do tickle therapy like we do, with real people, you can tell whether it's real or fake.
Professional models often tend to fake to please the audience, and the producer too (they do it for money). So in fact they can deceive the producer, who will be confident that he doesn't do clips with faking. Except that he does.

However, when we give tickle therapy it's absolutely real because our patients don't know how they will react and how they should react. They often try to resist the tickling instead. But they can't resist for long :)

With respect, I'd say that's BS. At least the part about 'real people' and models being able to deceive the producer. Models are real people - as are the producers. They're quite capable of knowing if someone is fake laughing in the vast majority of cases. It's obvious, not just from the sound of the laughter but from the overall reaction, body language etc which you can feel as well as see when you are actually tickling someone. It's generally very easy to see when something doesn't tickle or when the feeling is wearing off. People also forget that the majority of the shoot takes place off camera, where there is a lot more discussion about every aspect of it.

Where models do fake it, you can be pretty certain the producers are fully aware and in many cases they will be the ones encouraging the models to give that reaction. I have heard instances of this from my own models who have shot for other producers and were told to bump up their reactions - in one case, a model was told to pretend to tickle the other model because she was too tired from a long day of shooting. I imagine a small number of film-makers don't spot the difference but they will be in the minority. Generally speaking, if it it isn't tickling a model will ask if they should just laugh anyway, to which you would then say 'No, we'll try something else...' Of course, some producers will tell them to fake it or laugh in line with the script they're having to follow - but that's on them. It's the honesty and integrity of the person making the videos that people should be aware of. I've ditched footage from more shoots than I can remember due to the model not being ticklish enough or because I felt they were exaggerating their reactions.

Also, the fact that they're 'paid to do it' is largely irrelevant. I see this point raised again and again but in reality, we're all getting paid - whether you're a producer, a model in a professional production, or a couple putting your homemade videos out on Pornhub. It's pointless to pretend that there's no financial gain. Regardless of whether they enjoy it or not, very few people are able to travel for hours and spend half a day filming clips simply for the love of it. The fact that people get compensated for their time (and are able to pay their rent), doesn't make them any less ticklish or mean that they are faking their reactions.
 
I'm puzzled by all these absolutes along the lines of:
• "A producer can always tell if there's faking going on," or
• "Producers would never have any idea if someone's faking"

I'm quite sure there's a lot of both.

I also know from my own life that exaggeration is considerably more common than total faking. I'm not a fan of either, of course.

That said, I believe I have a good sense for fakery. Both fakers and the more common exaggerators tend to:
• Go from 0 to 10 instantly, then switching between 0 and 10 as the session goes along -- less in-between reaction levels
• Exhibit zero reaction distinction between different parts of the body
• Do a lot more more laughing and a lot less physical jerking, flinching and spasming
• Do less tensing of other parts of the body that aren't being touched
• Make laughing sounds that sound more like "ha ha ha," rather than squeals, grunts or yelps

None of these alone prove fakery, but they're a set of indicators.
 
With respect, I'd say that's BS. At least the part about 'real people' and models being able to deceive the producer. Models are real people - as are the producers. They're quite capable of knowing if someone is fake laughing in the vast majority of cases. It's obvious, not just from the sound of the laughter but from the overall reaction, body language etc which you can feel as well as see when you are actually tickling someone. It's generally very easy to see when something doesn't tickle or when the feeling is wearing off. People also forget that the majority of the shoot takes place off camera, where there is a lot more discussion about every aspect of it.

Where models do fake it, you can be pretty certain the producers are fully aware and in many cases they will be the ones encouraging the models to give that reaction. I have heard instances of this from my own models who have shot for other producers and were told to bump up their reactions - in one case, a model was told to pretend to tickle the other model because she was too tired from a long day of shooting. I imagine a small number of film-makers don't spot the difference but they will be in the minority. Generally speaking, if it it isn't tickling a model will ask if they should just laugh anyway, to which you would then say 'No, we'll try something else...' Of course, some producers will tell them to fake it or laugh in line with the script they're having to follow - but that's on them. It's the honesty and integrity of the person making the videos that people should be aware of. I've ditched footage from more shoots than I can remember due to the model not being ticklish enough or because I felt they were exaggerating their reactions.

Also, the fact that they're 'paid to do it' is largely irrelevant. I see this point raised again and again but in reality, we're all getting paid - whether you're a producer, a model in a professional production, or a couple putting your homemade videos out on Pornhub. It's pointless to pretend that there's no financial gain. Regardless of whether they enjoy it or not, very few people are able to travel for hours and spend half a day filming clips simply for the love of it. The fact that people get compensated for their time (and are able to pay their rent), doesn't make them any less ticklish or mean that they are faking their reactions.

It's good to hear this from a producer. Really good.

And, to keep things on topic, Cherie Deville is still smokin', whether she's faking or not. My belief is that she's saying she's not ticklish to discourage ppl from asking her whether she is.
 
I'm puzzled by all these absolutes along the lines of:
• "A producer can always tell if there's faking going on," or
• "Producers would never have any idea if someone's faking"

I'm quite sure there's a lot of both.

I also know from my own life that exaggeration is considerably more common than total faking. I'm not a fan of either, of course.

That said, I believe I have a good sense for fakery. Both fakers and the more common exaggerators tend to:
• Go from 0 to 10 instantly, then switching between 0 and 10 as the session goes along -- less in-between reaction levels
• Exhibit zero reaction distinction between different parts of the body
• Do a lot more more laughing and a lot less physical jerking, flinching and spasming
• Do less tensing of other parts of the body that aren't being touched
• Make laughing sounds that sound more like "ha ha ha," rather than squeals, grunts or yelps

None of these alone prove fakery, but they're a set of indicators.

I'm sure there will be some that can't spot it. My point however, is that in the majority of cases producers will know (or at least suspect) when a model is faking. This is down to the fact that a) they shoot a lot of clips with a lot of different people, and b) they're not only seeing those reactions on video but seeing them really close up, as well as feeling them, speaking to the model throughout and after the scene. There is a lot more information to go on when you are right there in the scene than when you are watching it back on an edited video.

Interestingly, I find that all of the things you list as indicators of potential fakery, tend to occur quite frequently in real reactions. Some people really do just have a 'haha' laugh and there's nothing they can do about it. Some people makes loads of noise and barely move. Some do the opposite. Some react really consistently, all over with very little variation, and some stop and start like a switch being flicked on and off.

If I had to pick an actual 'tell', it's in the highly unrealistic comments that sound like they were scripted straight from a tickle fan's fantasy (because they probably were). Even that isn't proof however, since models are often asked to repeat these phrases in spite of their own reactions. It's why I don't do scripts - they always look fake, even when the tickling is real.
 
So I have a couple of clips of her from Tickle Abuse, and some bondage sites that really don't cater to tickling at all, and to me, judging from her reactions, she seemed very ticklish. All her body movements and laughter seemed legit. Especially the ones in the bondage clips where tickling was not the primary focus. So in my opinion, she may have said that because she didn't want that to be the focal point of her videos. The same is true from the woman who was in Tied and Tickled I think her screen name was June Bauer. She said the same thing, but to me she was truly ticklish, and nothing seemed fake to me at all! Maybe that's what they don't want to be their claim to fame. Just my opinion.
 
June Bauer actually said that??

Sorry, had to pick my jaw up from the floor. She was *perfect*! In fact my favorite lee for many years at first.

In short, I totally agree with you: those girls were both extremely ticklish. But I would understand them or others downplaying it if they subsequently wish to minimize association with tickling.
 
June Bauer actually said that??

Sorry, had to pick my jaw up from the floor. She was *perfect*! In fact my favorite lee for many years at first.

In short, I totally agree with you: those girls were both extremely ticklish. But I would understand them or others downplaying it if they subsequently wish to minimize association with tickling.

I think this is like saying a porn star claiming she faked orgasms in order to minimize her association with porn. It does not change the fact that she did porn. You know twenty years ago, I stated unequivocally that Paradise Vision without consent was fake. Yet, there were so many posters that claimed that there was no way it was fake. It was until recently when an audition tape surfaced that some accepted it. Now, we have tickle models making who are admitting that they faked their performances, and now there are posters who are claiming they are trying to "minimize" their relationship with tickling. It makes no sense. Look, the simplest answer is that they faked their performance, which does not take an Oscar performance to do. Saying this does not minimize anything. There really is no incentive to lie.
 
I think this is like saying a porn star claiming she faked orgasms in order to minimize her association with porn. It does not change the fact that she did porn. You know twenty years ago, I stated unequivocally that Paradise Vision without consent was fake. Yet, there were so many posters that claimed that there was no way it was fake. It was until recently when an audition tape surfaced that some accepted it. Now, we have tickle models making who are admitting that they faked their performances, and now there are posters who are claiming they are trying to "minimize" their relationship with tickling. It makes no sense. Look, the simplest answer is that they faked their performance, which does not take an Oscar performance to do. Saying this does not minimize anything. There really is no incentive to lie.

I disagree, there's plenty of incentive to lie. Not saying that's what Cherie (or Michelle Bauer) did in those instances, but regardless of whether someone did or didn't do something, there is a very real possibility that they simply don't want to be associated with it anymore.

A tickle model claiming she's not ticklish and was faking it the whole time is a good way to get people to leave her alone about it.
 
I disagree, there's plenty of incentive to lie. Not saying that's what Cherie (or Michelle Bauer) did in those instances, but regardless of whether someone did or didn't do something, there is a very real possibility that they simply don't want to be associated with it anymore.

A tickle model claiming she's not ticklish and was faking it the whole time is a good way to get people to leave her alone about it.

I call BS. If they really don't want to be associated with it, then you move on and dump your stage name. So many others have done that. What you don't do is get on fucking Tik Tok and make a video saying you faked it. There is no real incentive to do that.
 
I call BS. If they really don't want to be associated with it, then you move on and dump your stage name. So many others have done that. What you don't do is get on fucking Tik Tok and make a video saying you faked it. There is no real incentive to do that.

Settle down dude...

What you would do may not be what they decided to do. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter, so chill.
 
I call BS. If they really don't want to be associated with it, then you move on and dump your stage name.

That would totally work if you didn't have creepers who somehow manage to figure out every alias you've ever used throughout your entire career. There's more than a few of them 'round here.
 
That would totally work if you didn't have creepers who somehow manage to figure out every alias you've ever used throughout your entire career. There's more than a few of them 'round here.
There is indeed.
They should understand that the only thing they accomplish is that the models refuse to participate in videos anymore.
We have some tickle therapy clients who won't come to be filmed again (only for therapy without filming) for this very reason and we should "thank" those people.
 
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