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Rest in Peace, Archbishop Desmond Tutu

lostphilosopher

lostphilosopher

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We have lost one of the greatest leaders of peace and social justice the world has ever seen. While it is natural to be sad at such a passing, let us also celebrate that such a great person gave us wisdom and guidance during our lifetimes.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/26/4943...Lt-SxsJtL-p28EmRnhX89U9sE-S3B-hIUhTpmh8-MIROY

“Do your little bit of good where you are; it's those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world.”
 
Indeed. Tutu deserves far more respect and praise than Mandela, since Mandela had a long history of violence.
 
To be fair Macphisto, black South Africans were being locked up and tortured for even saying the wrong thing at a caucasion South African during Apartheid.

Mandela's people pretty much had no choice but to fight anyway they could to be granted equal civil rights.

But yes, the world will definately miss Desmond. He was a huge proponent for equal civil rights for all.
 
My cousin, who is a retired Episopalian sp? Priest, met with Archbishop Tutu several years back..he shared a pic on facebook with the Archbishop..
 
BlasterMasterGuy said:
To be fair Macphisto, black South Africans were being locked up and tortured for even saying the wrong thing at a caucasion South African during Apartheid.

Mandela's people pretty much had no choice but to fight anyway they could to be granted equal civil rights.

But yes, the world will definately miss Desmond. He was a huge proponent for equal civil rights for all.
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A lot of the practice of necklacing people involved blacks against blacks, although plenty of whites received that treatment as well. Mandela's second wife endorsed necklacing of various enemies, and her minions carried out crimes equal to, if not worse than the apartheid regime itself.
 
It says a lot about the person who chooses moment of death to incite discord. Make a new thread.
 
Mac, while I understand you feel compelled to point out that people of the Caucasion ethnicity have suffered to in conflicts with other ethnicities, perhaps voicing those concerns in a thread dedicated to a man of peace who worked tirelessly for racial justice and equal civil rights for people who have dealt with centuries of discrimination and outright subjugation is NOT the best place for doing it.
 
BlasterMasterGuy said:
Mac, while I understand you feel compelled to point out that people of the Caucasion ethnicity have suffered to in conflicts with other ethnicities, perhaps voicing those concerns in a thread dedicated to a man of peace who worked tirelessly for racial justice and equal civil rights for people who have dealt with centuries of discrimination and outright subjugation is NOT the best place for doing it.
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The only reason I bring it up is because the story of South Africa is not as straightforward as a lot of people assume it is.

Apartheid was the wrong approach to governing the area, but it was largely a result of intertribal conflict that the Zulus largely initiated and perpetuated.

There's an entire colonial narrative often pushed by Western education that doesn't look at the big picture of why relations between Europeans and indigenous people often escalated. Some indigenous people were peaceful and victims of colonialism, while others were rather violent in their own right and ended up reaping European violence as a result.

That being said, Tutu is one of the few genuinely benevolent figures in South African history.
 
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