"Victoria and Christina giggle at the sight of their friend Melodie locked in the stocks. They remove her socks, let her size 6 feet get a good taste of their fingernails, and now it’s Melodie’s turn to giggle. After a couple of minutes Melodie’s big toes and second toes are tied back, which probably doesn’t help the situation from her point of view, but it’s pretty convenient for the other two girls, who have an even easier time tormenting her. In addition to their fingers, Victoria and Christina take turns handling the electric toothbrush that works so well between Melodie’s toes. With her ankles and wrists restrained, there isn’t much Melodie can do but “enjoy” the 10-minute ride, because her friends have no intention of going easy on her. I have to say that she has a delightful laugh, very easy on the ear. (Language: French)"
That looks really good, I always love the basic locked in stocks
material. She has very nice ticklish reactions, a blast of giggles
followed by a little shriek and then more giggles, very cute.
Her friends seem to be enjoying themselves.
Nice laughter!!! She's not a screamer, nor is she some spoiled baby who whines and cries for her ticklers to stop. She has very sexy soles, and I love the little black birthmark on the bottom of her right foot. GREAT CLIP!!!
Any advice on how often I should use the stocks, please?
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That looks really good, I always love the basic locked in stocks material.
I like the stocks too. I've used them regularly since I started doing shoots 8 years ago. But I must admit that I don't know how often I should use them. I try to use a variety of positions, including non-stocks ones. At least, I do what I can within the limitations of my apartment. In the past I got some positive feedback about this variety, to the point that I almost feel it's kind of expected of me. I'm worried that if I stick too much to the basics, like the stocks, people will get bored with my videos. After all, stocks aren't exactly the most original tickling video setup. It's been done to death.
On the other hand, the stocks seem to be popular enough, and in recent times people seem to especially appreciate the horizontal stocks setup I've started experimenting with. Also, while using different, sometimes more exotic positions can be fun and original, the fact is that they're often less secure and/or less comfortable than more basic methods, like the stocks. They're also longer to prepare, making the shoots last longer, which increases the chances of the models getting tired or a little impatient. It's not good for their tickling reactions. Stocks are simple and quick to set up, are excellent for restraining the models, especially the feet, and compared to other positions they're actually fairly comfortable. So this means less time, more secure bondage, and possibly happier, more reactive models.
Again, I'm afraid that if I use the stocks too much, my work will get too repetitive and people will lose interest. Unfortunately, I can't afford some of the neat apparatus I've seen other producers use, nor do I have the space to store them. I do have my cheap weight bench, which is pretty useful, but it's still not very sophisticated compared to some other contraptions seen in some other productions. So even when I do try to vary things, the setups are fairly simple. Maybe they're too simple? I mean, some of the positions I really like turned out not to sell very well after all. So maybe I'm wrong about how interesting these positions really are?
Anyway, I'm not quite sure how to approach the situation. Should I use the stocks more often, use more varied positions, or continue doing pretty much the same thing I've been doing so far? Any feedback about the stocks, the weight bench or other types of positions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
I actually have liked most of the of bondage
set ups that you have used. I think I like the stocks because they
are so effective, that is the soles are left in a position were they
can't escape the tickling. I personally am not really interested in a
"creative bondage" set up as I am an effective set up. If the ticklee
is ticklish and held in place, then I think it's good material.
I've never seen anything from you with the ticklee moving about so
much that the ticklers had a hard time dishing out the tickles. I
think that's probably why I love the stocks so much, especially when
both feet are secured in the center holes and the big toes are tied together.
Is that position original? No, but it is very effective. I also liked the foot
tickling scene in "He" with Kathy's feet secured up on the padded rod and
toe-tied. Another very effective position. Then again I think any position
that keeps the ankles together and secured down is a great tickling position.
I feel it's most effective for foot tickling.
Not sure if that helps any, but it's just what I enjoy. Maybe some others
could give you some input as well, but I feel you've done fine.
Nice laughter!!! She's not a screamer, nor is she some spoiled baby who whines and cries for her ticklers to stop.
I really like her laughter too. It's pretty much ideal for my videos. I wish I could get more ticklees that react like she does. Although I have to say, I really don't mind when a ticklee begs the ticklers to stop. Quite the contrary, in fact. As long as she does it while laughing.
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She has very sexy soles, and I love the little black birthmark on the bottom of her right foot.
I think I like the stocks because they
are so effective, that is the soles are left in a position were they
can't escape the tickling. I personally am not really interested in a
"creative bondage" set up as I am an effective set up. If the ticklee
is ticklish and held in place, then I think it's good material.
That makes sense. I must admit that sometimes I wish I could use the stocks exclusively, with some minor variations. It would make things so much simpler. But if I'm to do several clips with the same model, there's only so much I can do with the stocks before it becomes repetitive and the customers decide to look elsewhere. From a business point of view, using a variety of positions is a way of encouraging people to potentially buy more than one clip with the same model. Not that it always works, mind you.
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I've never seen anything from you with the ticklee moving about so much that the ticklers had a hard time dishing out the tickles.
Well, I do like when the tickler's job is easy, since it usually means the tickling can be more intense or at least more precise.
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I also liked the foot tickling scene in "He" with Kathy's feet secured up on the padded rod and toe-tied. Another very effective position.
Ah yes. I don't know why I haven't used that one since then. It's a little harder to set up in my apartment, but it's doable. I'll keep that one in mind for a future shoot.
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Then again I think any position that keeps the ankles together and secured down is a great tickling position. I feel it's most effective for foot tickling.
Good point. A few other positions do have this feature. One of my personal favorites is what I call the "motorcycle position", which involves the use of my weight bench. It fairly simple but very effective. The ticklee lies down on her belly on the bench, sometimes grabbing a bar in front or above her, with her knees bent so that her feet rest on top of the quadriceps pads, soles facing up. The ankles are cuffed together and restrained to the metal portion. The big toes can also be tied together and pulled down. It makes the soles and toes very vulnerable, and I've found that it's excellent for tongue tickling.
I have to say, I'm sometimes puzzled by my customers' apparent preferences (based on sales of various clips). I mean, sometimes I use a position that I'm sure will please people, but then the clips sells poorly. Other positions that I personally find so-so or highly repetitive often sell better. For instance, in Last Laugh Uruz, I had both models cuffed to both ends of a long padded rod in a kind of "69" position, in that each girl was stuck to the rod but could easily tickle the other girl's feet. I thought it was visually interesting, action-packed, and I figured people would enjoy the restrained tickle fight aspect. But it sold quite poorly.
Another recent clip that disappointed me was the 4th one of the Last Laugh Ansuz series. Both models wore leopard tops and cat ears, which I thought was a cute touch. One was in the stocks on her back, the other one also in the stocks but lying on top of her friend. Since their hands were free, they had, well, an upper body catfight. I added some extra challenge by getting their feet while they continued to fight as best as they could. It seemed like a wild, fun situation to me, and the girls put on a very good show. But again, much to my surprise, the clip performed poorly. I guess the fact that both clips I mentioned involve mutual tickling is just a coincidence. Unless I'm wrong and people aren't fond of that sort of thing? Maybe the fact that I took care of the foot tickling in the second clip turned people off? Would it had been better if I hadn't intervened at all, leaving it a pure upper body tickling clip? Of course, I'm pretty sure it would have been better if a third model has worked on the feet. Still, I didn't expect that clip to fail. Frankly, I could say the same thing about entire series.
On a somewhat different topic (sorry for digressing, but it is my thread after all, hehehe!), another thing that makes me scratch my head is people's preferences in models. We've all read long threads discussing whether looks or ticklishness is the most important factor. Looks do matter, of course, but in those threads most people claim that looks don't matter that much and that they prefer models who are more ticklish. Well, that might be true for those posters, but my personal experience suggests that most people disagree. I've noticed on a number of occasions that if a shoot stars two models, one who's cuter and one who's clearly more ticklish, the clips that feature the cuter models typically sell better, despite the other model being the superior ticklee. I have to say that I find this very disappointing. Thing is, my criteria for physical appearance aren't very strict when I recruit models. As long as they look ok enough and are reasonably ticklish, I'm fine with it. So I find the idea of people not being that interested in the more plain looking ones, even when they're very ticklish, rather upsetting. I mean, am I wasting time and money working with models who aren't clearly above average in looks? Should I turn down models with good tickling potential because of their looks?
Anyway, sorry for going on and on like that. I assume my little monologue there was pretty boring to most people. It's just that writing about such issues helps to put them into perspective. I also figure that any feedback might be useful, or at least informative.
I have to admit, that's another thing I've been wondering about. I use toe bondage quite often in my videos. I'd say at least half of the foot tickling scenes feature toe bondage in some way. Do I use it too often? I tend to prefer it to free toes, but I don't know if most people feel the same way.
Also, how do people feel about the toe cuffs? They first appeared in Last Laugh Kaf, and since then I've used them almost exclusively. I like them a lot because because they're significantly more comfortable and easier to use than the shoelaces that have been my previous main method. But they do hide the stems of the big toes a little more than laces. Any opinions?
I like the toe cuffs, because they do appear more comfotable
for the models.
To answer your other question, I prefer a cute and very ticklish
woman over a gorgeous woman who is only slightly ticklish. I
think the more ticklish the better the clip/DVD. It is interesting
that the clips with more attractive but less ticklish model sell
better than the reverse. I don't understand that either, I guess
it all comes down to personal preference.
To answer your other question, I prefer a cute and very ticklish woman over a gorgeous woman who is only slightly ticklish.
Oh, absolutely. And in my case it's not just because of the difference in ticklishness. In terms of physical appearance, I'm actually much more attracted to a cute woman than a gorgeous one. Women who are considered gorgeous by most men usually leave me indifferent. For instance, Angelina Jolie does absolutely nothing for me. So if we're talking about a cute, very ticklish girl, I actually get the best of both worlds. No contest at all.
That being said, that's not quite what I meant. To me, "cute" refers to a more attractive model. I was comparing a plain-looking girl who's very ticklish to a cute, more attractive girl who's less ticklish. I mean, most of my models are nice enough, but it wouldn't be realistic to say that as a whole they're among the hottest in the business. Compared to the models of some other producers, many of them seem rather plain. That's due in part to my selection criteria, which aren't that strict because it's just not that important to me. I also have fewer contacts than some other producers, so can't be as selective and it's harder to find models who are especially pretty
Now, personally, I tend to prefer the more down to earth models, and don't have a problem working with them if they're ticklish enough and easy to get along with. But I can't help but wonder if this isn't a mistake from a commercial point of view. It's pretty clear to me that looks count for more than what appearance-vs-ticklishness threads would suggest. I think that people for whom looks are more important tend to avoid posting their opinion so they don't sound superficial, so those threads are kinda biased. So am I shooting myself in the foot by working with models that I like well enough but aren't as attractive as people prefer? Am I wasting my time working with plain-looking models? Money-wise, it's not that useful to release a video with a ticklish but plain-looking model if sales don't even cover the salary expense, or barely so (it's not that uncommon).
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It is interesting that the clips with more attractive but less ticklish model sell better than the reverse. I don't understand that either, I guess it all comes down to personal preference.
Well, we are talking about a fetish, and thus a sexual interest. So it's not that surprising that looks are important to many people, to the point of preferring more attractive models even if they're not quite as ticklish as others. I can think of a couple of fetish companies that do some tickling whose success is due in good part to the fact that their models are supposedly "hot babes".
That must be a tough spot to be in as a producer. Maybe if a
model looks sort of "plain" you should only work with her if
she proves to be very ticklish. If the plain looking model
material isn't selling so well, maybe the ticklishness level bar
should be raised. Maybe to save money and time, be more selective?
I'm probably not the best person to ask about
this though, because I've thought all your girls have been appealing.
It seems more real to me and my taste is probably similar to yours
in the looks dept. I do agree with the "superficial" statement, thats
probably totally the case in regards to "looks vs. ticklishness" threads.
Have you ever turned away a more attractive looking model because
you feel she wasn't ticklish enough? Do you think had you filmed with
her that the footage would have sold well? You know if you film with
a super gorgeous moderately ticklish woman, and the clip sells like mad,
somebody is going to bitch that she wasn't ticklish enough and that they
wasted money..and on and on LOL. It seems your damned if you do and
damned if you don't.
Edit: For me ticklishness is more important than appearance. If a woman is cute
and very ticklish or gorgeous and very ticklish I'm sold. I tend to make my purchases
based on the perceived level of ticklishness, that and nice feet. Though, and I hate
to sound "superficial". If a clip contained a lady who I found totally unattractive but
was a decent ticklee, I probably wouldn't buy it. I have yet to come across
a clip like that from any producer, but your correct looks do play an important part,
just not as much as ticklishness for me.
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