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Sunriseticklee

Racism and Racist Tropes in Story on TMF

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I was minding my own business searching to see if there was any way to block and not just ignore a member. Assuming that there was a thread or two on the subject, I did a search for the words "block member."

I stumbled upon the story section, which- to be honest was pretty much on purpose. I clicked on the link. I like tickle stories more than I like videos and art. I was reading a particular story when all of a sudden the writer started referring to the characters by race.

"Caucasian features"
"Asian"
"Pale white skin"

Ok- Whatever.... That didn't bother me as much.

Then I read these sentences....
The two gorillas in white approached one to each boy, rubbing their hands with fruition. The villainous boys were struck with terror and knew that this would be their demise. Dr. Hunter’s assistants approached the criminals and began wiggling their fingers across both of the lads’ upper bodies. Aaron was a hairy dude, so his chest, forearms and armpits had bushes of dark manly hair already sweaty because of the distressing anguish. The black assistant slid his huge hands along the young man's chest, Aaron only trembled and struggled to ward off his body from these monstrous hands, but it was impossible.
—Holy shit! Oh my…! You damn King Kong… GET YOUR FUCKIN HANDS OFF OF ME!... -roared the young punk trying to look defiant.
The black assistant smiled deeper and without warning, he jabbed his stiff fingers into Aaron’s skinny ribs.
And this author continued to refer to the Black characters as "King Kong" for the remainder of the story.

My response was as follows:
How unfortunate that you had to ruin your writing by using racist tropes and referring to the Black assistants as gorillas and "King Kong."
Disgusting! I guess I should be fucking surprised, but I'm not.


This is not my first issue with this kind of thing here, and I'm sure it won't be my last. How is it that in 2021 (2019 when it was posted) you can't be creative and write without using racist tropes like comparing Black men to gorillas, calling them King Kong, and using them to perpetuate White fear in a story?

How do you not know how offensive and unacceptable it is? My bet is that you DO know that it is both offensive and unacceptable and that you just don't give a shit @Tickling2death.

And this is how some of you all still see us.
And worse, there are those of you out there who don't see how viewing us as monsters and animals is a problem and is dangerous or detrimental to us when you....
  • See us in a neighborhood that you think we "don't belong in."
  • Or when we interview for a job.
  • Or when we are pulled over.
  • Or when we are just minding our own businesses living our everyday lives and someone is afraid just because we're Black.


And before I hear the ridiculous excuses, I really just need one thing!

Be better, even if you're not!
Ugh!

Updated 07-18-2021 at 11:32 AM by Sunriseticklee

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    I am so sorry you had to deal with that. I imagine it's not easy to have to read something like that and it's a shame people have to resort to using harmful stereotypes.

    Sending you my best wishes
    Quote Originally Posted by Alliekat
    I am so sorry you had to deal with that. I imagine it's not easy to have to read something like that and it's a shame people have to resort to using harmful stereotypes.

    Sending you my best wishes
    Thank you Alliekat! It blows my mind that there are still people out there who probably yearn for acceptance in their own lives, but don't care to accept others based upon race, culture, gender/ non-gender constructions, sexuality... etc.
    Can you send me a link to that story? If it's as you describe, it will be deleted and the person who posted it will be warned.
    Never mind, I found it.
    So I agree with you that the victim calling the black person "king kong" is offensive, even though it's coming from a character who is being tortured and is insulting his torturers in a variety of ways. And I'm going to remove the story and ask the author to edit that.

    However, I think you missed the description of the two gorillas: "one of them was black, the other one was white and both look like gorillas at their almost 7 feet tall and broad shouldered chest."

    One of them is black and one of them is white, which I think makes it clear that the description is of their physicality regardless of their race.

    That being said, I am going to remove the story and contact the author about removing the offensive reference to king kong.
    Thank you, TMFJeff.
    Yeah. I see it a lot. Raising a yellow card on stuff like this raises awareness and sensitivity. I’m glad you did, and..do . At the risk of sounding like the woke limp-wrist right wing radio warns about, the last few years are re-wiring how I see so much exploitive, sexist or not so subtle racism.

    Thanks for a thoughtful blog post!
    Quote Originally Posted by SillyTheKidd
    Yeah. I see it a lot. Raising a yellow card on stuff like this raises awareness and sensitivity. I’m glad you did, and..do . At the risk of sounding like the woke limp-wrist right wing radio warns about, the last few years are re-wiring how I see so much exploitive, sexist or not so subtle racism.

    Thanks for a thoughtful blog post!
    Thank you SillyTheKid.

    It's always difficult to choose to speak up because there is always someone who has negative thoughts/ feelings about the person pointing out the issues. However, I fully expect to be (and have been) checked when I have said/ done something that is contrary to the vision of our inclusive community. I hope we never stop working and striving to improve.
    Presumably, the adjudication may potentially be governed on the condition of whether the work is [U]To Kill A Mockingbird[/U] or [U]The Turner Diaries[/U], if you'll allow the use of the analogy. Now, I am rather unconvinced that we have the next Harper Lee in our midst, but I am of the mind that it's always good to point out instances such as this and encourage a discussion. Be that as it may, it has been imparted that furnishing such attestation has the potential to be surmised as a publicized denigration.

    Nevertheless, continuous development and advancement will often have sticky or unpleasant moments - and that's how understanding occurs. :)
    Quote Originally Posted by chicago
    Presumably, the adjudication may potentially be governed on the condition of whether the work is To Kill A Mockingbird or The Turner Diaries, if you'll allow the use of the analogy. Now, I am rather unconvinced that we have the next Harper Lee in our midst, but I am of the mind that it's always good to point out instances such as this and encourage a discussion. Be that as it may, it has been imparted that furnishing such attestation has the potential to be surmised as a publicized denigration.

    Nevertheless, continuous development and advancement will often have sticky or unpleasant moments - and that's how understanding occurs.
    Does the author utilize racist tropes in literature to cause thought-provoking discourse and to cast a light on the hate and injustice of systematic racism in our current social climate? Or is the writer lazily using the same characterizations of African American men that have been overused and ingrained in those who would rather choose ignorance, hate, and fear?

    Ask yourself those questions. Clearly the writing that I read on TMF today did not come close to the same attributes or intents of novels such as To Kill a Mockingbird or even, for example, Roll of Thunder Hear My Cry.

    As much as many would love to make light of these situations, I'm not here to apply nuances in racial characterizations woven throughout a tickle story on TMF. Nor will I entertain any further those who wish to play devil's advocate when this ignorance harbored in the hearts of men repeatedly causes harm to my people.

    Carry on.
    You are absolutely right. I was looking at the topic from a broader sense and I apologize for not making that clearer as well as inserting what appeared to read as pettifogging distinctions. I respect your decision to avoid alternative or questioning perspectives. Ultimately, though, I think we see eye to eye on this.
    The actions of someone who is NOT a champion of anti-racism:
    1. Inserting yourself into the center of the situation about racism
    2. Attempting to change the narrative to input your own personal perspective
    3. Attacking the character and level of intelligence of the person/ people impacted
    4. Ignoring the fact that the person/ people impacted do not wish to engage with you by using force
    5. Trolling and attempting to discredit the person on their other online pages
    6. Attacking the character of and attempting to discredit those who support the person/ people impacted
    7. Trying to gain more attention and gather others who will agree with you in discrediting the person/ people directly impacted
    8. Pretending to be the victim
    9. Lying about being on the side of those impacted
    10. Still not realizing that this was never about you, but about racism, and failing to realize that your actions have indeed proven that the way Black people are treated on TMF is still a problem.