What happened to Deviantart???

Q_0 said:

My fetish involves ugly old ladies [like in their 80's] tickling girls tummies.

Yes, there are plenty of people that do free requests on deviantart. It's a great site. You could definitely requests some free f/m m/m stories from there.

If I couldn't get my free requests, surely I would go mad.

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meangry said:

If you want your kink massaged, pay people.

This doing stuff for free stuff is bullshit.

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meangry said:

If you want your kink massaged, pay people.

This doing stuff for free stuff is bullshit.

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Sandrock74 said:

What's insulting is all the times artists and writers are approached about working for free. If one doesn't have the money to spare for commissions, then they aren't meant for tailor made porn. Thems the breaks.

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Q_0 said:

And what if you can't afford to pay anyone? Do you know what it's like to not have any material at all? It can get your sex drive to maddening levels. I'm actually getting into paying people now, but I wasn't able to before.

Don't call it bullshit - it is both insulting to me and the very kind, wonderful people who did work for me.

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Q_0 said:

And what if you can't afford to pay anyone? Do you know what it's like to not have any material at all? It can get your sex drive to maddening levels.

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meangry said:

Bullshit that you can't afford to pay anyone.

I didn't have material that was as explicit as I want. You want to know what I've done? I've put my money where my mouth is. I've commissioned a full length comic from Pabuluz that, when it's done, will be quite intense. I've commissioned three pieces by Polarbearnsfw and each and every one of them will work for me. I've networked with different artists here and they have more explicit material in their art that they release, but that relationship has been built over years and years of conversation.

I put my money where my mouth was. You want to know something? I like the artists in this community. And the ones who are capable of producing high level art, I'm willing to pay them, because not only should they be compensated for making fetish art for people with such a high level of professional craftsmanship, but also because I WANT THEM TO KEEP MAKING MORE OF IT!

If people do it for free, that's their choice, and I don't begrudge them that. I begrudge people begging for customs and commissions and that without paying a damn dime for them with extremely specific needs to be filled, or acting like it's problematic when they don't. If you sex drive is at maddening level because of it and you can't regulate and function, that's fucked up.

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Myriads said:

In fact yes. Talk to anyone on this forum who is 40 or older and everyone of them will tell you what it's like to have no access to anything. And that's not just no access to a tiny specialized paraphilia like crone vs hottie tickling, that was no access to ANYTHING tickling. So yes, a lot of people here have a clue as to your feeling.

But we also have a clue as to the sheer wealth that you are standing among, as you cry out your poverty of media. The internet has opened an unending spigot of free material to people. And while your specific like might not be all that about, it's still there. I can think of a dozen or more stories here on the TMF in the Story section that scratch that itch. Hell, I even wrote one myself. It's in C.A.B.'s art archives as part of the RUST series that I scripted. Look for the one with the curiosity shop. Yah, his stuff isn't all art. Sometimes it's illustrated stories.

But the stuff is out there. You just need to find it. Oh, that's the hard part about free. No one takes your hand and leads you into the promised land. You have to find it on your own. Do some work.

Or you can hire a guide who will take you right to what you want. Those guides are all over waiting for someone to commission them.

It's not bullshit that many artists and creators did work for you for free. They did so out of a desire to create, and perhaps a desire to get some practice. But what is bullshit, is when people EXPECT exactly what they want to be free, or even to be made at all. Good on you that you are starting to commission works now that you are able.

There is a reason your likes are not around so much. They are highly specific. You are a fraction of a tiny fraction of everyone. That anything gets made that works for you is, in the eyes of someone who didn't see a piece of tickle specific media more then one every few years as a teen, is indeed impressive.

And what do you do if you can't afford to commission things?

You do without, and bust your ass sifting web archives looking for that free gem.

Myriads

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Q_0 said:

I understand the annoyance at the entitled attitude that people expect what they like for free. But I think of all the free "normal" porn for "normal" people and I think why can't I have this same right?

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Myriads said:

You don't have any right to media.

The "Normal" people do have a lot of free porn out there, and for a very simple reason. Their like IS THE NORM so the majority of what gets made is for said folks.

You pulled a very very specific manifestation of an already small paraphilia group. The number of people who like what you do is tiny. Odds are no creators active at any given time share your specific likes. And as a creator, when I write something to give away, I tend to write a story that amuses me first, and I hope others second. That is why there is so little media that hits your bullseye.

Your argument above is one that I hear often. It's one born of frustration of being different from the norm. And if you dig back into the real early days of this forum you'll hear the same argument being expressed by a lot of different groups. "Why is there no pantyhose tickling videos!!!???" "Where is all the F/M tickling????" "Every thing is about Feet… where is the armpit tickling???" Paraphilia (what you call fetishes) tend to fragment into highly individualistic expressions. Everyone wants something that works for them, and they all have a list of specific conditions they 'need'. Well the more specific those conditions get the less and less material that will do the job, and at the same time, the less and less of it there is.

It's like going into McDonalds and ordering a box of Fries, and begin unhappy there are not 73 fries in the box. There may be 74, or perhaps 72, but unless there are exactly 73 you are unsatisfied.

You have managed to get material created for free, you have paid to get it made (and I sure hope you got exactly what you wanted) so you've not been unsuccessful in the quest to scratch your itch. You've been proactive (and motivated). That is all to the good.

But just because you are not part of the core mass of sexuality, one of those who can enjoy that great free pile of effective porn, you don't gain the right to anything more then the right to want something, and work to get it. Every single person on this forum who grew up in the 60's 70's and 80's, grew up in a time where every bit of porn we saw was not for us. And it sucked. It made most people who had a tickling paraphilia feel like they were the only one on the planet. But as the tools came along to make things differently those very same people changed things. Jeff opened Magic Touch, Jim Created MTP, BAC made art and shared it. NEST came into being. We made a place for ourselves, where people now COME to try and sell us media. Where others like C.A.B. give it away. And there is so much stuff no one can keep track of it all.

Note that. Once I knew EVERY SINGLE TICKLING VIDEO EVER MADE. I might not have seen them all, but I knew of them, and could tell you who made it, and who was in it just from a photo still. That was less then 20 years ago. That's how much things have changed.

You want more Crone vs Hottie tickling? Give creators a reason to make it. Tell them that in a story it does;t need to be the focus so long as there is some of it in there someplace. Convince a video producer to get an older Ler for a video to see if they can make it sell. For a long time people wanted to see more MILF's as lees, and eventually producers saw a demand and started to fill it.

You're like is specific. You need to realize that you will most honestly only see it as part of a greater whole. Much like the RUST chapter. Some of what you liked was there, some wasn't. But most importantly, you need to accept that the world is not designed to specifically fill your want, and you'll need to work harder as a result. Fair? Nope. But neither are most aspects of life.

I may seem harsh with my post here, but I'm not trying to rip you up. What I'm trying to do is instill some perspective of how you fit into the greater community, and that what you feel is not all that different from what all of us felt at one point. Pulling a odd paraphilia doesn't make ones life easier. It complicates it. But like all the other things that make us unique, it's a sort of strength also. We all work harder to be happy.

Myriads

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Oddjob0226 said:

Incidentally, what happened to the ‘Old hags tickling girls' thread?

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Myriads said:

Go easy on yourself Q_0 it's been almost a decade. You were learning who you were and reacting to that. Your posts were always mature, and respectful, and mostly indicated frustration. Which I saw then (and still do today) normal and natural.

The thread was removed because it was a troll magnet. People would continually bump it to argue about the term 'hags' and so forth. We'd clean it and it would happen again. So we locked it. And people began creating new threads to argue about why it was locked. So we just vanished the whole thing, as it was a headache.

Myriads

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