MrHighArches
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I'll copy-paste the reply I posted on another thread:
I saw a few stories scattered on internet - lately, he's been accused of several, out of line actions with models/potential models.
I believe he has been working on making sure you wouldn't find anything on Google. I recovered two links hinting at what's currently going on (all in French - Google Translate will help):
https://mobile.twitter.com/droledepl...70851915059202
https://domicile-emploi.net/annonces...C3%89r%C3%89es
Obviously, he is innocent until proven guilty. But it is sad that, again, our fetish is labelled as creepy because of the actions of some.
And, as a fan of his work, I'm scared to discover that it was done under dodgy circumstances. I sincerely hope not.
I saw a few stories scattered on internet - lately, he's been accused of several, out of line actions with models/potential models.
I believe he has been working on making sure you wouldn't find anything on Google. I recovered two links hinting at what's currently going on (all in French - Google Translate will help):
https://mobile.twitter.com/droledepl...70851915059202
https://domicile-emploi.net/annonces...C3%89r%C3%89es
Obviously, he is innocent until proven guilty. But it is sad that, again, our fetish is labelled as creepy because of the actions of some.
And, as a fan of his work, I'm scared to discover that it was done under dodgy circumstances. I sincerely hope not.
MrHighArches
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already pulled...everything on this website cleaned out, the links you posted are pulled. All the great sites realtickling, paradise tickling and now the french one are gone...so what was the french guy "creepily' doing? The website seems to be still there
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tl;dr? There's nothing in those links anymore but clarify "dodgy circumstances"? He seemed to be one of the more explicitly "fetish" producers, if he was apparently operating for like 15 years tricking people about what he was filming that's a shock to me.
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The links in this thread are bogus, because they were literally copy/pasted after being formatted. If you look at the older post, there are full, valid, links. The contents aren't pleasing to read. The twitter link leads to a thread from a person who says that they agreed to accompany a friend to a shoot. They did not "read between the lines" and assume it was a fetish thing, but thought they were agreeing to a non-adult still-photo shoot without, as far as I can tell, any bondage. None of that was apparent until they were on location, relying on the producer for transportation.
Several very uncomfortable hours later, to put it mildly, the models were evidently shorted on payment. The thread author went to the police and doesn't seem to have been taken very seriously.
Several very uncomfortable hours later, to put it mildly, the models were evidently shorted on payment. The thread author went to the police and doesn't seem to have been taken very seriously.
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How about linking the threads? I can't find any older posts and would like some context.
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So im genuinely asking without any scarcastic tone, how did we get to "Clearly nothing happened" from this situation. So did it not happen or what?
Obviously your not required to answer but i wanted to ask
It's just a girl that had second thoughts and didn't click with ft that's all.
This is just a minor story that went nowhere.
The issue was that her friend didn't explain her very well what it was about. He removed her videos and that's all.
Working with girl next door is harder, and this is part of why. I won't go any further because it's not my business, but I wanted to kill thoughts that "something happened" in the egg.
I sent my models to ft and continue to do so (alena, Mary, Jess, lolah, Nolwenn, alexx).
None had a negative experience.
We all can have bad shoots, like in any workplace situation, but it's rare.
I won't tell you what to do, but Propagating those tweets and rumors will only harm innocent people, FT has a family and he was deeply impacted when this came out, it shows his name and Stains it forever on internet.
Also to address the second issue : it was just a former model that started stalking behaviors, the matter has been settled in 2020 (and nothing happened)
This can happen to any producer
This is just a minor story that went nowhere.
The issue was that her friend didn't explain her very well what it was about. He removed her videos and that's all.
Working with girl next door is harder, and this is part of why. I won't go any further because it's not my business, but I wanted to kill thoughts that "something happened" in the egg.
I sent my models to ft and continue to do so (alena, Mary, Jess, lolah, Nolwenn, alexx).
None had a negative experience.
We all can have bad shoots, like in any workplace situation, but it's rare.
I won't tell you what to do, but Propagating those tweets and rumors will only harm innocent people, FT has a family and he was deeply impacted when this came out, it shows his name and Stains it forever on internet.
Also to address the second issue : it was just a former model that started stalking behaviors, the matter has been settled in 2020 (and nothing happened)
This can happen to any producer
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How producers interact with their models is important to lots of people and just because youve had a good experience does not mean it cannot happen but it does make your insight valuable.
Nobody wants to slander but people get hurt on both sides so its not so just to sweep these things under the rug unless of course youre saying these are straight up rumors and those tweets have been falsified? (Which it doesnt sound like youre saying)
Them working it out is good to know and im glad you shared, cause mishaps and regrets are sometimes unavoidable but acting like nothing happened is irresponsible.
Nobody wants to slander but people get hurt on both sides so its not so just to sweep these things under the rug unless of course youre saying these are straight up rumors and those tweets have been falsified? (Which it doesnt sound like youre saying)
Them working it out is good to know and im glad you shared, cause mishaps and regrets are sometimes unavoidable but acting like nothing happened is irresponsible.
The tweets are kinda nothing, it's just a girl saying she got into something she didn't know about because of her friend, and she wasn't prepared for the experience.
The other link you sent has a comment saying FT is a multi-rapist covered up by authorities, this is not only ridiculous but it's also slander.
What I know about this story is that it backfired on the model because she didn't have any proof, and worse, the proofs were on the producer's side. It ends here.
The main problem is piracy, this girl saw herself on porn tubes and thought FT published her there on purpose. All of this could have been avoided if she simply asked him about it. After this, he made sure to remove her from these sites and authorities concluded that FT is also a victim.
End of story.
So the morale of this story is that Piracy ruins the industry, this is why producers work with established models and get away from girl next doors.
And then this is why now some people are desperate for authenticity and buy clips that have poor production value while ranting about the good old days
The other link you sent has a comment saying FT is a multi-rapist covered up by authorities, this is not only ridiculous but it's also slander.
What I know about this story is that it backfired on the model because she didn't have any proof, and worse, the proofs were on the producer's side. It ends here.
The main problem is piracy, this girl saw herself on porn tubes and thought FT published her there on purpose. All of this could have been avoided if she simply asked him about it. After this, he made sure to remove her from these sites and authorities concluded that FT is also a victim.
End of story.
So the morale of this story is that Piracy ruins the industry, this is why producers work with established models and get away from girl next doors.
And then this is why now some people are desperate for authenticity and buy clips that have poor production value while ranting about the good old days
I wasnt actually the one who posted it so i dont know where they came from either haha
I wouldnt call it nothing, it doesnt seem to be accusational either though. Simply sharing her negative experience with him with specific explanations on why she was not okay with it and i wouldnt consider a bad review slander if its true. I didnt see the rapist tweet so imma skip over that.
Im not even caring about the piracy thing at this point or the legal shit cause id probably agree with you and it very well could have been her not asking enough questions and think its pretty cool he took it down anyway. But from what the girl said he can be pushy and not respective of peoples limits and tone deaf to peoples discomforts which to be honest to me really sucks man. Not everyone cares but thats SOOO off putting to me and am glad this was brought up, girl next door shit can be some of the best stuff out there but is it really that impossible of a task to Always (i know such an intimidating word) be considerate to these models especially the vanilla ones.
Hes not here for his side and maybe it was just an absolute one time thing (seems like a big maybe at this point) so im not like on blacklist mode or anything but just wanna say he sucks for that cause i believe it.
I wouldnt call it nothing, it doesnt seem to be accusational either though. Simply sharing her negative experience with him with specific explanations on why she was not okay with it and i wouldnt consider a bad review slander if its true. I didnt see the rapist tweet so imma skip over that.
Im not even caring about the piracy thing at this point or the legal shit cause id probably agree with you and it very well could have been her not asking enough questions and think its pretty cool he took it down anyway. But from what the girl said he can be pushy and not respective of peoples limits and tone deaf to peoples discomforts which to be honest to me really sucks man. Not everyone cares but thats SOOO off putting to me and am glad this was brought up, girl next door shit can be some of the best stuff out there but is it really that impossible of a task to Always (i know such an intimidating word) be considerate to these models especially the vanilla ones.
Hes not here for his side and maybe it was just an absolute one time thing (seems like a big maybe at this point) so im not like on blacklist mode or anything but just wanna say he sucks for that cause i believe it.
every model has different perception, and the deal is obviously to tickle them hard (if they could stop whenever they want it wouldn't be so entertaining).
As long as they understand that it is A CHALLENGE, everything is ok.
Now about pain, that's part of the job actually : Feet up position leads to cramp, with some girls it happens within 10 mn and with others it's 20-25 minutes.
I don't know what FT does but I always warn the ticklees before, and we try to finish the scene before it happens. It will vary with each girl wether a pause is needed.
By the way all the positions that need arms to be up will also lead to asphyxiation if held too long (jesus died that way after all), that's just part of how bondage works.
But for just one scene the model will not feel any pain normally.
Accidents can happen on shoot too, I remember that I removed a mole on mary's underarms while tickling her (and we didn't notice until I saw blood on my hands).
When you are tickling someone, sometimes you can get carried away, a lot of things are going on between the excitement and worrying about the technicalities (angles, camera, sound, lighting ...)
So yeah, it's easy to blame people on paper, but in practice this happens and the girl needs to safeword something specific in case of pain.
Now we ALL have our flaws about how we work, I definitely have mine and when I worked with Kelli Lynn Sage she told me that that every producer sucked in some areas 
You can't be perfect.
But this doesn't mean that models don't have a good time either. It's exactly like in cinema, some directors are absolute perfectionists (Fincher) and others are messy (Peter jackson). Some actors are Divas, some are super nice, everybody is different and dealing with Chaos is the essence of working in the "creative industry".
I'm ofc not saying that bad behaviors should be tolerated, but I would make a difference between "tickled 30 secondes too much" and "locked in the stocks for hours while I was begging to get out"
You can't be perfect. But this doesn't mean that models don't have a good time either. It's exactly like in cinema, some directors are absolute perfectionists (Fincher) and others are messy (Peter jackson). Some actors are Divas, some are super nice, everybody is different and dealing with Chaos is the essence of working in the "creative industry".
I'm ofc not saying that bad behaviors should be tolerated, but I would make a difference between "tickled 30 secondes too much" and "locked in the stocks for hours while I was begging to get out"
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People who say "hey i fucked up and i realize that etc" are like my small time heroes, so please excuse me cause i can get thoroughly annoyed when someone comes out with critisicm and the opposition just shrouds in excuses. Which i am NOT accusing him of doing just voicing why im giving you a bit of hard time
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My girlfriend (Karine) and 3 friends of mine (Laurence, Aurelia, Mendy) went to him.. and no problems...
I think nobody has to talk about this, without knowing anything.. and not here...
Here we can talk about his work but not his life, it's private and not respectful for him
I think nobody has to talk about this, without knowing anything.. and not here...
Here we can talk about his work but not his life, it's private and not respectful for him
It seems we're seeing a trend here of going after models and producers, from the Megan Jones thread to someone asking why Tomiko was allowed to be in a mainstream movie and now these threads. That's a bigger subject, though; here's my take on this one. Warning, I'm not going to be "nice."
First off, I'm not sure we should be giving so much weight to the spreading of accusations by members with fewer than 20 posts; that fact alone makes me wonder if they're not mainly here with an agenda.
The tweets in the first link are from February 2020, so now more than a year old; that's hardly "lately." And, assuming it happened as this person described it, it was one incident; have there been others you know of? While the second link is more recent, from October, it starts with an apparently unsubstantiated rape accusation. Also, where's your evidence that he's been trying to make sure there's nothing on Google?
Can't say you didn't see it now, unless you just don't want to see it.
Later on, you say you think he's "lame as hell."
First off, I'm not sure we should be giving so much weight to the spreading of accusations by members with fewer than 20 posts; that fact alone makes me wonder if they're not mainly here with an agenda.
The tweets in the first link are from February 2020, so now more than a year old; that's hardly "lately." And, assuming it happened as this person described it, it was one incident; have there been others you know of? While the second link is more recent, from October, it starts with an apparently unsubstantiated rape accusation. Also, where's your evidence that he's been trying to make sure there's nothing on Google?
Not accusational? The person called it "physical and psychological torture," saying he had power over them and abused it. Then there's the "rapist" part, which I'll get to shortly.
She called him unhealthy, irresponsible, incompetent and dangerous - no slander there, right? And again let me emphasize this was one person's story.
Here it is: https://domicile-emploi.net/annonces/76345-arnaque-sÉances-de-chatouilles-rÉmunÉrÉes
Can't say you didn't see it now, unless you just don't want to see it.
That's one of the problems here; you seem to be taking "what the girl said" as kind of gospel and judging him based on her tweets. I also wonder why you're "glad" this was brought up; did you come in with something against this producer?
Why does it seem like a big maybe? Because of one person's story?
I don't believe the first part. If you're not on blacklist mode, then you wouldn't be saying "he sucks for that." And you give yourself away by flatly saying you believe this story, pretty much unconditionally.
I see you edited this post and wonder what it said before. I also wonder, given that you just said "he sucks," how sincere this is.
Here you evidently give yourself away again. Apparently you do want to "throw him on the cross" but don't want want to come out and say so.
Later on, you say you think he's "lame as hell."
Not a whole picture, though some of it was unpleasant reading; at one point, she did say it was fun and she admitted there were times he gave them breaks when asked. Also, in her own words, some of the "torture" lasted 15 or 30 seconds, which hardly rises to the level of uncaring abuse.
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Someone having a negative experience isnt slander and this isnt his personal life this is him interacting with people working with him. I pointed out believing it because this guy came in and said how it all went over well, but didnt deny that those tweets were true he just said they were nothing which isnt true.
So not a new concept, Its very possible to not like what someone did in one instance and not make excuses for it while also not thinking hes a piece of shit. You guys are trying to defend him like hell for me saying that this girls experience was not okay and that he acted like an ass. To the point youre trying to discredit me for saying i dont want to blacklist him?
Youre trying to push me into a narrative where i hate this man and want him gone and its just not the case so nice diagnosis doc but you missed the point. Just say you either think shes lying or that in this instance he acted like an ass.
It doesnt have to be a whole conspiracy he did something wrong, everything seemed to work out and boom done.
(To polish out your accusations: i cant read french so thats why i cant see it lol and all edits were spelling and grammar related)
So not a new concept, Its very possible to not like what someone did in one instance and not make excuses for it while also not thinking hes a piece of shit. You guys are trying to defend him like hell for me saying that this girls experience was not okay and that he acted like an ass. To the point youre trying to discredit me for saying i dont want to blacklist him?
Youre trying to push me into a narrative where i hate this man and want him gone and its just not the case so nice diagnosis doc but you missed the point. Just say you either think shes lying or that in this instance he acted like an ass.
It doesnt have to be a whole conspiracy he did something wrong, everything seemed to work out and boom done.
(To polish out your accusations: i cant read french so thats why i cant see it lol and all edits were spelling and grammar related)
"though some of it was unpleasant reading; at one point, she did say it was fun and she admitted there were times he gave them breaks when asked" qoute from you...
I actually am not gonna ignore this statement as it is the biggest fucking dodge ive seen in a while and is a perfect example of what sweeping shit under the rug actually sounds like. I think youre actually the one sounding like you came in with some kind of agenda
I actually am not gonna ignore this statement as it is the biggest fucking dodge ive seen in a while and is a perfect example of what sweeping shit under the rug actually sounds like. I think youre actually the one sounding like you came in with some kind of agenda
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I think above all that the model must know exactly what the photo or video session consists of. If you don't tell her the truth, she may well feel like she has been manipulated. Doing a classic photoshoot is not the same thing as shooting a fetish video.
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I can't agree it's about piracy. Do you think it wouldn't be the same if she saw herself on Clips4Sale near to all those pornographic videos of other categories?
It's about the perception of tickling as something the same as pornography that should be ashamed of if you take part in it. (Especially if the tickling is indeed mixed with sexual activities like using the vibrators and nipple tickling)
This is what overtook the tickling industry, what damaged the development of the tickling community. Once at the age of Tickling Paradise it was something every next-door lady could get interested to try. Now it's related to porn only. That is the main problem and what should be changed to avoid such issues.
At least we are trying to do something to change it when we promote Tickle Therapy. To make a difference, with the invaluable help of our supporters.
http://instagram.com/smiletherapy_official - an adequate person does see the difference between this instagram and those with sexual pornographic tickling videos in them.
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A friend of mine can relate.
