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Customs are very expensive. A thread to help each other

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dillonsgotswag

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Customs are very expensive. A thread to help each other by naming all models that you think are not ticklish or fake being ticklish to avoid paying $800 , $1k or whatever for a bad video

I'll start with a few

Freya Von Doom
Ashlynn Taylor
Lisenok (Russian Fetish)

please contribute whichever way you can
 
Seems like you should be able to get a custom for about 1/2 of what you paid.
It also seems like you might want to commission a custom from a model you already like but maybe a scenario designed to your specific desires.
 
For half that amount of money you could have many a coffee and many a conversation with many a young woman who might decide that she likes you and be persuaded to indulge you IRL. If you're married or partnered and this is impossible, there are discreet dungeons with rentable submissives with whom you can play, who'll not give you a second thought once the session's over, considering the far odder things other men have done with or to them. They may even allow you to film the proceedings, either with a cameraphone on a tripod or as a POV using camera glasses.

Sometimes getting out of your comfort zone is all that's needed.
 
What would be smart is having people sharing cost of a custom, this would allow for more cosplay or more models at once

Oh and I dont know why those models charge this much, even 400 seems like a lot of money, I would spend that for a celeb lol
 
With all due respect,

If you want to buy a custom featuring a model, I'd suggest buying a clip featuring them in a role that you wish to see them in for your custom. If you like what you see (i.e. their reactions fit your expectation), then commission a custom featuring them.

As for rates, models charge what the market will bear most often. If someone can't afford it, that's fine, find a model or studio who fits your budget. Someone else is paying that rate. Another reason a model may charge a rate (that may seem high to you) for a tickle custom is because they may not like being tickled very much. Being tickled - especially in a tortuous way - is taxing on the body and can be mentally so. A model may charge a premium to compensate themselves for the toll tickling can take on them.

I'm not speaking for any models that have or may be mentioned in this thread, but I've been around for a minute, so I know some things.

Also, if you don't like the reaction a model makes when tickled, just say that. Saying they're faking because you don't appreciate their reaction, is disingenuous because you actually have no idea. How could you, because you are not them.
 
Libertine said:
For half that amount of money you could have many a coffee and many a conversation with many a young woman who might decide that she likes you and be persuaded to indulge you IRL. If you're married or partnered and this is impossible, there are discreet dungeons with rentable submissives with whom you can play, who'll not give you a second thought once the session's over, considering the far odder things other men have done with or to them. They may even allow you to film the proceedings, either with a cameraphone on a tripod or as a POV using camera glasses.

Sometimes getting out of your comfort zone is all that's needed.
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Pretty smart advice.
 
WHat the hell are you guys ordering that's running $800+?
 
Libertine said:
For half that amount of money you could have many a coffee and many a conversation with many a young woman who might decide that she likes you and be persuaded to indulge you IRL. If you're married or partnered and this is impossible, there are discreet dungeons with rentable submissives with whom you can play, who'll not give you a second thought once the session's over, considering the far odder things other men have done with or to them. They may even allow you to film the proceedings, either with a cameraphone on a tripod or as a POV using camera glasses.

Sometimes getting out of your comfort zone is all that's needed.
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I have sessioned over 50+ times with various girls. I enjoy both aspects of the fetish, consuming media and the actual thing. That said, yes i'm willing to pay top $, but i want to enjoy it to the fullest and that includes genuine reactions
 
Comfort Eagle said:
WHat the hell are you guys ordering that's running $800+?
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ive paid 200 for customs and ive paid 1k for others

it all depends

the one that ran me 800, i paid for a girl I wanted to see tickled to travel to the producer's location. so it included travel costs. girl didnt do any tickle shoots prior
 
Comfort Eagle said:
WHat the hell are you guys ordering that's running $800+?
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To be fair, there are a couple of things that could cause that kind of price tag. The most common one is travel expenses. For example, let's say one of my customers wants me to hire Kelli Lynn Sage. I'm in California, Kelli Lynn is based out of Florida. Rule of thumb for customs is, the customer foots the entire bill. (heh. foot.) So you're looking at a bill for airfare and accommodations (hotel, AirBnB, whatever) which could run anywhere from $500 to like two grand before she's even on set. Then you have your typical model fees, which can be a hundred or three (or four, or more - I'll discuss that in a second), and of course, the producer doesn't work for free, so there's that markup as well.

I recently shot a $1200 custom for a fan feet-uring Katya. I saw almost none of that money, and Katya is local to me. Why did it cost so much? Because Katya is an internationally published fashion model and as nice as her hugs are, we're not such good friends that she's going to cut me a 90% discount for a shoot where she's going to be laughing herself to the point of blacking out (true story). So, the reasoning goes, if Katya can get $900 for a shoot where she has to put on a spangly dress and look pretty for a few hours (...and she can), she's going to expect at least that much for a shoot where she's getting tortured.

For real, though, you're a fool if you're shelling out top dollar for a model whose work you haven't seen before and don't actually like. If you have, then it's sole-ly up to you whether or not you felt you got your money's worth. That customer who dropped $1200 on Katya's clip? He got the entire shoot (an hour's worth), all the behind the scenes stuff, an outfit of his choosing, including Katya's nail polish, and the specific type of tickling he wanted to see and he totally loved it. I'm not going to tell him he was wrong.

That said, Katya is an exception and most of my customs don't cost that much. Shop around for the best rates and do your homework before commissioning to see if what you're going to order is what you'll want to see.

Also? You (you, the viewer, watching the video) can't tell if they're faking unless they're literally reading off the cue cards during filming. Give it up.
 
dillonsgotswag said:
Customs are very expensive. A thread to help each other by naming all models that you think are not ticklish or fake being ticklish to avoid paying $800 , $1k or whatever for a bad video

I'll start with a few

Freya Von Doom
Ashlynn Taylor
Lisenok (Russian Fetish)

please contribute whichever way you can
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If you think Ashlynn Taylor isn't ticklish then I highly suggest the table bound videos and how she handles Evan dishing out the tickling at SilverCherry.

Freya might legitimately not be. Girl seems mad sketchy.
 
Comfort Eagle said:
WHat the hell are you guys ordering that's running $800+?
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This.....

You can get 5 min custom tickle clips from unknown or internet based fetish performers/actresses starting at around 50 - 60 bucks. Some of the more well known "models" are at most 200 bucks. Who in the living hell is charging 800 - 1k? Unless of course you are talking about having custom hour long videos or something like that....that's the only way I could see those prices being legit.

And for that price i'd take my chances getting busted in a sting operation with a "lady of the night" in real life vs paying that kinda cash for a video to wack off to lol
 
dillonsgotswag said:
ive paid 200 for customs and ive paid 1k for others

it all depends

the one that ran me 800, i paid for a girl I wanted to see tickled to travel to the producer's location. so it included travel costs. girl didnt do any tickle shoots prior
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I missed this before I replied....ok, that's why it was 800 bucks. Actually pretty cheap considering what was entailed. But i'm still leaving my opinion from what I first posted :happyfloa
 
dskodj said:
And for that price I'd take my chances getting busted in a sting operation with a "lady of the night" in real life vs paying that kinda cash for a video to wack off to lol
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You can always plan a little holiday in Canada, where it's all quite legal including a joint to smoke before or after if the lady wishes to share one.
 
SoleMates said:
Also? You (you, the viewer, watching the video) can't tell if they're faking unless they're literally reading off the cue cards during filming. Give it up.
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Agreed and very well put.

As I said in a post last year on the same subject, "In Frederick Forsyth's 'The Odessa File', the forger of wanted SS men's fake passports' philosophy is that it doesn't matter if a document is genuine. It doesn't matter who printed it or how was printed- if it works for the purpose intended, it is a good document.

Same with a filmed or staged tickling scene. If the viewer believes it, what went into creating it is immaterial."

A friend of KT's and mine, a bridesmaid at our wedding, used to shoot porn before passing away of The Big C far too young. She told us that once she was doing yet another bondage/spanking film and was supposed to orgasm on camera. Well, (and she was still amazed) she had one, on cue, for real. And the director shouted 'Cut', and asked her what the hell she thought was doing.

She explained, and he grinned, 'Congratulations, but... can we please have a great big screaming fake one for the next take? THAT'S what my audiences like to see'.

You really never can tell.
 
Soles_Scream said:
With all due respect,

If you want to buy a custom featuring a model, I'd suggest buying a clip featuring them in a role that you wish to see them in for your custom. If you like what you see (i.e. their reactions fit your expectation), then commission a custom featuring them.

As for rates, models charge what the market will bear most often. If someone can't afford it, that's fine, find a model or studio who fits your budget. Someone else is paying that rate. Another reason a model may charge a rate (that may seem high to you) for a tickle custom is because they may not like being tickled very much. Being tickled - especially in a tortuous way - is taxing on the body and can be mentally so. A model may charge a premium to compensate themselves for the toll tickling can take on them.

I'm not speaking for any models that have or may be mentioned in this thread, but I've been around for a minute, so I know some things.

Also, if you don't like the reaction a model makes when tickled, just say that. Saying they're faking because you don't appreciate their reaction, is disingenuous because you actually have no idea. How could you, because you are not them.
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Exactly!!!
For one, I'm absolutely ticklish everywhere, LOTS of people know this as a fact, yet there's still some people who's asked me if I'm ticklish at all LOL With the amount of screaming, crying, laughing and sweating, there's always someone out there that just won't believe their own eyes or ears. Not my fault!

As for the custom rates, I'm going to make a statement that OUGHT to shock you all...
My custom rates have been the same for the last 17 YEARS.
I've been tickled probably thousands of times over the years, I also produce and deliver customs in a timely manner.
Do you think I deserve a raise after 17 YEARS???
In the past 17 YEARS, did YOU get a raise??
How many raises have you gotten in the last 17 years?
Are you feeling any financial pain from inflation?
Well guess what, inflation affects ALL of us.
So I'll ask again, do you think I deserve a raise after 17 years of the same pay, yet I'm working harder than ever???

You have to remember, you are paying for a customized fantasy, and a customized anything is a luxury.
Consider other customized luxury items you might be able to get...a car, dress, sneakers, jewelry, outfits, home improvement, vacation package, etc.
Would you rather pay someone who you KNOW has a good reputation and will deliver a professional product to you, or are you shopping around for the cheapest thing you can find and hoping for a miracle???

I personally value my money, and I save up for the luxury items I want (pretty much more studio equipment so I can keep producing top notch content) until I have enough money to buy what I want from the company that I know can make me happy.
 
Anyone who request a custom need an also keep in this in mind. The fantasy you have in your head is not going to be exactly as it is filmed. We all have different interpretations and sometimes seeing them acted out might not be that exact scenario. Some people laugh differently especially while being filmed as well as expecting to be tickled. Also knowing firsthand of every aspect of the custom does take away some of the surprise. Seriously if you want a great custom, give a base scenario, then let the models work their magic. They know what they are doing and may surprise you with something better than expected!
 
I can only speak for myself, but $800 is way outside of my price range for a custom. I understand that prices do vary, and there are a lot of things that do/can factor in when it comes to prices. Travel, the number of models involved, the required props, length.
 
Libertine said:
For half that amount of money you could have many a coffee and many a conversation with many a young woman who might decide that she likes you and be persuaded to indulge you IRL.

^^^. What he said. $800 worth of coffee dates with girls on Match.com will certainly get you a few gamers willing to give it a shot as long as you don't come across as a serial killer.
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I've ordered 2 customs from RussianFetish with their model Lydia and they both turned out amazing. 10/10 recommend them, and Lydia is genuinely ticklish and has a great laugh and great facial expressions.

I'm ordering a third in about a month.
 
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