How would most women react if this happened

You find out your Gynecologist is on TMF a week before you have an appointment to go see him, and you find him extremely attractive. Also, he does not know you know

Dude...
Most women don't peruse the TMF, and most women can tell you a visit to the Gynecologist is the farthest thing from sexy.

errrr u do realize why we go to a gynaecologist don’t you????? ��*♀️

I can think of a few issues here: Why gynaecologist? Typically, the inside of one’s vag isn’t ticklish. I don’t know who mine is gonna be as I haven’t met them yet. And I’m not sure someone with a good career would be daft enough to post their face on a fetish forum. But in any case, it shouldn’t interfere with the actual appointment. Even if it did, the two people involved need to maintain a professional relationship because otherwise it would be illegal.

Jezebel Lee said:

I can think of a few issues here: Why gynaecologist? Typically, the inside of one’s vag isn’t ticklish. I don’t know who mine is gonna be as I haven’t met them yet. And I’m not sure someone with a good career would be daft enough to post their face on a fetish forum. But in any case, it shouldn’t interfere with the actual appointment. Even if it did, the two people involved need to maintain a professional relationship because otherwise it would be illegal.

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Exactly. Besides Im not about to ruin anyone's professional career by even the slightest hint of making them uncomfortable. I don't know this person personally, and I will never invade a professionals mental or physical space with my sexual advances. And yes its true. The Gyno is not fun for ANYONE. I can always usually expect to be in pain when Im there. Fact of life.

Haha I appreciate your creativity and trying to create a scenario but it's very strange and almost oddly specific. Why a gynecologist of all things? And I mean I can see the female being attracted to their doctor, but I imagine being at the gynecologist and being vulnerable in that position would basically kill any and all feelings of attraction or arousal and be nothing if not embarrassing.

I know for me personally if I were in a vulnerable position at the doctors having my Balls inspected by an attractive female doctor, the last thing I'm thinking about is tickling or anything sexual. Get me the Hell out of here. Just saying.

Very strange.

There's an entire forum dedicated to people's "darkest fantasies" for people to share scenarios and not be shamed for them. Some of the fantasies people described make me far more uncomfortable than this apparent fantasy that tickleteasing wants to have entertained.

It's possible that tickleteasing may be one of the few people here with a fetish for speculums in addition to a fetish for tickling.

I can't confirm whether or not they started this thread out of genuine interest to enjoy other people's thoughts on this fantasy or to troll or harass people.

The problem of course is that I'm sure that women here have received DM's like this because some screwed up people want to victimize people with requests designed to be disturbing. So women here who have a dislike or suspicion of this sort of unusual public comment is something that I can understand why, if not otherwise clarified, could be perceived as an attempt to harass someone.

So on one hand, tickleteasing could have worded this statement in a more detailed manner to avoid confusion and offense in his intentions. Since they've been here since 2002, it's long enough for most people who consider other people's situations to know that a straightforward question like this may be mistaken as being serious and considered offensive.

BUT, on the other hand, this WASN'T a DM.

It's possible that members are taking the liberty to shame this person for their genuine personal fantasy.

This is really no more straightforward than any other fantasy that gets posted about, and tickleteasing may not be so naive as to think that this actually happening in the real world would be acceptable.

So even though their post could be reworded to make people more open to what they're describing, the last thing this place is for is kink shaming.

I'm just saying, maybe this person didn't mean any harm and deserves a chance to clarify their intentions.

But if this WAS a straightforward question, I'm not a woman, but here's my opinion.

First, being a member of the TMF alone doesn't automatically make people fall for each other. Also, I imagine that finding out your doctor, co-worker, accountant, etc. was a member here would not change the nature of your professional relationship.

If attraction for them does play a part in this scenario, in reality, even if someone was really attracted to their doctor, out of common sense I don't think that it would make them spill the beans about their fetish to their doctor. It's never acceptable to flirt with a doctor who you're a patient of. You would be escorted out of their facility, your doctor/patient relationship will end and you might be charged with sexual harassment.

Also, the doctor might be attractive, but they might be married or in a monogamous relationship. Also, the doctor might not be attracted to their patient.

And even if a doctor was attracted to their patient, they would not be attracted enough to lose their license to practice medicine by having a relationship with a patient. For most intelligent and non-corrupt people, sexual desires don't override the other things in life that are important to you, especially if you spent years working hard to achieve them.

As I understand it, if it's important enough to a person to pursue a relationship with a doctor, they would legally have stop being their patient first. This would put them in a situation afterword where upon proposing a relationship, they would either successfully form some kind of romantic relationship or friendship with the doctor, or they would reject them, and no longer be applicable to be their patient either.

Good doctors are hard to find. I value the people I've come to trust with advice and treatment on my health too much to lose my right to be their patient, and I think that a lot of people would feel the same.

If you want to fantasize about people in a situation where if they went through with it, realistically they would be risking throwing their whole lives away for a sexual venture, that's fine in fantasy. But if you want to know what they would do in this situation, I don't think that you'd find many women here who would feel emboldened enough to try to entice or seduce their doctor or any professional at the risk of possibly being charged with sexual harassment.

But stranger and more corrupt and terrible things have happened with extremely unrestrained people who want to believe that they had the power to manipulate anybody they want with sexuality to get what they want.

The less dangerous people who succumb to these propositions usually only do so because they're ignorant or have no self control.

But often, people who accept sexual advances in these circumstances either don't value what they have to lose from it or their nature is extremely corrupt, both potentially making them very dangerous.

Either way, both parties who hypothetically engaged in inappropriate relationships like this are making themselves vulnerable to another person who could hurt them. It's not a smart move.

Crefl1n said:

There's an entire forum dedicated to people's "darkest fantasies" for people to share scenarios and not be shamed for them. Some of the fantasies people described make me far more uncomfortable than this apparent fantasy that tickleteasing wants to have entertained.

It's possible that tickleteasing may be one of the few people here with a fetish for speculums in addition to a fetish for tickling.

I can't confirm whether or not they started this thread out of genuine interest to enjoy other people's thoughts on this fantasy or to troll or harass people.

The problem of course is that I'm sure that women here have received DM's like this because some screwed up people want to victimize people with requests designed to be disturbing. So women here who have a dislike or suspicion of this sort of unusual public comment is something that I can understand why, if not otherwise clarified, could be perceived as an attempt to harass someone.

So on one hand, tickleteasing could have worded this statement in a more detailed manner to avoid confusion and offense in his intentions. Since they've been here since 2002, it's long enough for most people who consider other people's situations to know that a straightforward question like this may be mistaken as being serious and considered offensive.

BUT, on the other hand, this WASN'T a DM.

It's possible that members are taking the liberty to shame this person for their genuine personal fantasy.

This is really no more straightforward than any other fantasy that gets posted about, and tickleteasing may not be so naive as to think that this actually happening in the real world would be acceptable.

So even though their post could be reworded to make people more open to what they're describing, the last thing this place is for is kink shaming.

I'm just saying, maybe this person didn't mean any harm and deserves a chance to clarify their intentions.

But if this WAS a straightforward question, I'm not a woman, but here's my opinion.

First, being a member of the TMF alone doesn't automatically make people fall for each other. Also, I imagine that finding out your doctor, co-worker, accountant, etc. was a member here would not change the nature of your professional relationship.

If attraction for them does play a part in this scenario, in reality, even if someone was really attracted to their doctor, out of common sense I don't think that it would make them spill the beans about their fetish to their doctor. It's never acceptable to flirt with a doctor who you're a patient of. You would be escorted out of their facility, your doctor/patient relationship will end and you might be charged with sexual harassment.

Also, the doctor might be attractive, but they might be married or in a monogamous relationship. Also, the doctor might not be attracted to their patient.

And even if a doctor was attracted to their patient, they would not be attracted enough to lose their license to practice medicine by having a relationship with a patient. For most intelligent and non-corrupt people, sexual desires don't override the other things in life that are important to you, especially if you spent years working hard to achieve them.

As I understand it, if it's important enough to a person to pursue a relationship with a doctor, they would legally have stop being their patient first. This would put them in a situation afterword where upon proposing a relationship, they would either successfully form some kind of romantic relationship or friendship with the doctor, or they would reject them, and no longer be applicable to be their patient either.

Good doctors are hard to find. I value the people I've come to trust with advice and treatment on my health too much to lose my right to be their patient, and I think that a lot of people would feel the same.

If you want to fantasize about people in a situation where if they went through with it, realistically they would be risking throwing their whole lives away for a sexual venture, that's fine in fantasy. But if you want to know what they would do in this situation, I don't think that you'd find many women here who would feel emboldened enough to try to entice or seduce their doctor or any professional at the risk of possibly being charged with sexual harassment.

But stranger and more corrupt and terrible things have happened with extremely unrestrained people who want to believe that they had the power to manipulate anybody they want with sexuality to get what they want.

The less dangerous people who succumb to these propositions usually only do so because they're ignorant or have no self control.

But often, people who accept sexual advances in these circumstances either don't value what they have to lose from it or their nature is extremely corrupt, both potentially making them very dangerous.

Either way, both parties who hypothetically engaged in inappropriate relationships like this are making themselves vulnerable to another person who could hurt them. It's not a smart move.

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Ditto

I'm going to look at this from someone who has a foot fetish since his age of reason.

Trust me. Even if I could have gotten through medical school, which I doubt I could have because from what I hear, it is the most challenging Graduate School of them all.

My point is. I would not have been thinking "I want to become a podiatrist so that I can see and touch women's feet all day. I find men[s feet not appealing at all, and if I was a podiatrist, it would be an immediate red flag if I said. "I only treat women"

My view, personal should always be kept separate from work.

While I can see saying.

"I hope that perhaps I meet someone like myself who also likes tickling, and or feet, or at least if they are not into "Fetishes" they are understanding or flexible enough to allow me to engage in my fantasies, and interests "At least sometimes" That would be as far as I would carry it.

Besides those things, to me, anything else would be.. irrelevant, unappealing, and unnecessary

Well this opened up a can of worms lol

tickle_prince said:

Well this opened up a can of worms lol

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Open-ended questions based on a WTF premise usually do.

I am sorry if the post was badly worded I tend to post things without thinking

Wolf said:

Open-ended questions based on a WTF premise usually do.

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Well that is true heh, I think this one’s a learning curved on that

tickleteasing said:

I am sorry if the post was badly worded I tend to post things without thinking

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No need to apologize; it wasn't an offensive post, just an odd choice of scenarios; as others have pointed out, gynecological exams are not fun.

Well believe it or not I heard a woman say she orgasmed seeing one

Crefl1n said:

There's an entire forum dedicated to people's "darkest fantasies" for people to share scenarios and not be shamed for them. Some of the fantasies people described make me far more uncomfortable than this apparent fantasy that tickleteasing wants to have entertained.

It's possible that tickleteasing may be one of the few people here with a fetish for speculums in addition to a fetish for tickling.

I can't confirm whether or not they started this thread out of genuine interest to enjoy other people's thoughts on this fantasy or to troll or harass people.

The problem of course is that I'm sure that women here have received DM's like this because some screwed up people want to victimize people with requests designed to be disturbing. So women here who have a dislike or suspicion of this sort of unusual public comment is something that I can understand why, if not otherwise clarified, could be perceived as an attempt to harass someone.

So on one hand, tickleteasing could have worded this statement in a more detailed manner to avoid confusion and offense in his intentions. Since they've been here since 2002, it's long enough for most people who consider other people's situations to know that a straightforward question like this may be mistaken as being serious and considered offensive.

BUT, on the other hand, this WASN'T a DM.

It's possible that members are taking the liberty to shame this person for their genuine personal fantasy.

This is really no more straightforward than any other fantasy that gets posted about, and tickleteasing may not be so naive as to think that this actually happening in the real world would be acceptable.

So even though their post could be reworded to make people more open to what they're describing, the last thing this place is for is kink shaming.

I'm just saying, maybe this person didn't mean any harm and deserves a chance to clarify their intentions.

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I don’t think anyone is kink-shaming. Just explaining the reality of gyno exams.

tickleteasing said:

Well believe it or not I heard a woman say she orgasmed seeing one

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I actually can believe that. People can orgasm from physical stimulation without being aroused mentally.

The main "problem" here - and I use that term loosely - is that when a post like this is made, one cannot tell whether or not the OP is being serious or simply wanting a fantasy entertained.

As I've pointed out before, this community fosters a particular breed of stupid where people truly believe weird shit and then actually go out and do it and sometimes land in really hot water over it.

So when somebody - as I've pointed out before - sends me a DM telling me they want me to go tickle a "friend" of theirs at a public event, I have no way of knowing whether they're trying to springboard a bit of creative writing, or they're a creep who hopes I actually see nothing wrong with assaulting a stranger. The latter people exist. They post here. And your reaction to a thread is definitely going to depend on whether or not you're responding to one of those people.

An obviously fantasy scenario about tickle robots is one thing. We know it's a creative writing prompt. A dancing-on-the-line thread about real-world interpersonal interactions that could have serious consequences, where the OP may be floating the idea hoping to get some reinforcement before they go try it themselves, is another. We don't know. And responding to such a thread with "oo that's so hot" and then having the OP go and get in serious trouble because some strangers on the internet said it's ok, is not something we want to encourage as a community... especially with the way the feds are camping sites like 4Chan looking for the next mass tragedy to prevent.

SoleMates said:

The main "problem" here - and I use that term loosely - is that when a post like this is made, one cannot tell whether or not the OP is being serious or simply wanting a fantasy entertained.

As I've pointed out before, this community fosters a particular breed of stupid where people truly believe weird shit and then actually go out and do it and sometimes land in really hot water over it.

So when somebody - as I've pointed out before - sends me a DM telling me they want me to go tickle a "friend" of theirs at a public event, I have no way of knowing whether they're trying to springboard a bit of creative writing, or they're a creep who hopes I actually see nothing wrong with assaulting a stranger. The latter people exist. They post here. And your reaction to a thread is definitely going to depend on whether or not you're responding to one of those people.

An obviously fantasy scenario about tickle robots is one thing. We know it's a creative writing prompt. A dancing-on-the-line thread about real-world interpersonal interactions that could have serious consequences, where the OP may be floating the idea hoping to get some reinforcement before they go try it themselves, is another. We don't know. And responding to such a thread with "oo that's so hot" and then having the OP go and get in serious trouble because some strangers on the internet said it's ok, is not something we want to encourage as a community... especially with the way the feds are camping sites like 4Chan looking for the next mass tragedy to prevent.

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100% this!

SoleMates said:

The main "problem" here - and I use that term loosely - is that when a post like this is made, one cannot tell whether or not the OP is being serious or simply wanting a fantasy entertained.

As I've pointed out before, this community fosters a particular breed of stupid where people truly believe weird shit and then actually go out and do it and sometimes land in really hot water over it.

So when somebody - as I've pointed out before - sends me a DM telling me they want me to go tickle a "friend" of theirs at a public event, I have no way of knowing whether they're trying to springboard a bit of creative writing, or they're a creep who hopes I actually see nothing wrong with assaulting a stranger. The latter people exist. They post here. And your reaction to a thread is definitely going to depend on whether or not you're responding to one of those people.

An obviously fantasy scenario about tickle robots is one thing. We know it's a creative writing prompt. A dancing-on-the-line thread about real-world interpersonal interactions that could have serious consequences, where the OP may be floating the idea hoping to get some reinforcement before they go try it themselves, is another. We don't know. And responding to such a thread with "oo that's so hot" and then having the OP go and get in serious trouble because some strangers on the internet said it's ok, is not something we want to encourage as a community... especially with the way the feds are camping sites like 4Chan looking for the next mass tragedy to prevent.

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It's a shame but that's the world we live in now.

Solemates:

That's a significant point. But clearly, nobody here encouraged the OP to further pursue this.

To be fair, the OP of the thread's question wasn't reaching out to other people to perpetrate a crime, he was asking a poorly and vaguely written question.

And sure, nobody "KNOWS" what anybody's TRUE intentions are here. Quite possibly, anything that any of us says could be a bunch of crap.

But out of all the possibly shady people here who could be scrutinized, it's easier to suggest people might be creeps whose posts use open ended sentence structure, lack proper grammar, or simply don't spell check. Because they're apparently less capable of defending themselves from being directly compared to TRUE troublemakers.

I have known many people on the autism spectrum, some of whom who love to read and speak their minds far more eloquently than the average person. But regardless, writing, much like any other form of interpersonal communication, was described by most of them as being a struggle sometimes. Some were never even really able to express themselves in writing the way they wanted to and preferred to talk or record their voice if possible.

Some members' "stupidity" may be nothing more than their language skills not being on par with the average person's. At least, not at that moment.

But if they want to TRY to connect to people, they have a right to. And if it comes out kind of confusing or shockingly incoherent, it MIGHT have just as well been a mistake, rather than what they intended to say.

I suppose that there are people here who are underhanded that will word things vaguely at first to see how far they can take something they KNOW is inappropriate. And there probably are people here who are truly ignorant and disturbed who either don't know or don't care about right or wrong.

But there are many people in this world who, unaware to most, don't have the same education or mental capabilities that you might have. So quite possibly, several members of this site might be people who were born with unique cognitive circumstances.

And even if the OP doesn't fall in that category, there's enough people here who may struggle in writing that in most circumstances, unless they say something VERY concerning, I believe we could all just give the benefit of a doubt before passing judgement on someone and assuming malintent over only a few sentences or choice of words. In the end, everybody deserves a chance to either clear their intentions, or even apologize for their ignorance.

We are not required to all be friends here. But we ought to be able to apply logic and be reasonable in how we judge each other here by something like brief posts, and leave final judgement for the mods to decide.

Either that, or the rules should be changed to completely ban the creation or contribution of any threads with themes that push the boundary of what's safe.

But currently, the list of what is unacceptable is completely up to the mods. So, I guess that we have to keep staying in touch with them.

Crefl1n said:

Solemates:

That's a significant point. But clearly, nobody here encouraged the OP to further pursue this.

To be fair, the OP of the thread's question wasn't reaching out to other people to perpetrate a crime, he was asking a poorly and vaguely written question.

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To be clear, I was not accusing the OP of anything, merely pointing out that the people here expressing concern are not "kink shaming", because they literally do not know the intentions of the OP in asking.

I don't think we need to "ban" any particular topics, but if I were God-King I might either set aside a forum specifically for this sort of thing or relegate them to the "Stories" section.

I'm not trying to play the role of the devil's advocate here, but I want to offer my reasoning on a few things here, because people were really threatened by this post. And honestly, I think that if you really stopped and thought about it, it was bit unjustified. And a lot of stress could have been avoided by thinking about it and giving the OP the opportunity to clarify.

Some would say that bringing up gynecology in the tickling discussion forum is worthy of alarm. It's different, yes. But alarm worthy? In an open question? Was there really reason for all this concern? Let's see.

First, for those unaware of this, there is a fetish for medical equipment, and that does include speculums.

This apparently wasn't and never has been a topic of interest of the OP, but the confusion/shock shown for the topic of this post reflects on how welcome people with a medical equipment fetish might be received here.

This brings me to the topic of "kink shaming". Out all the unusual scenarios that I've seen come up here, sometimes, one gets questioned, scrutinized and stigmatized far more than others. The end result is that the member who posted feels ridiculed and unwelcome. And anybody like them feels discouraged bring anything like it up again.

We're all adults, and hypothetically, we should all be able to live with being rejected by peers.

But on a sexual forum, when you're rejected because you're apparently not allowed to ask "such a question" without explanation, that might not exactly be defined as kink shaming, but you're at least kink profiling out of prejudice for certain kinks and topics as opposed to others.

I find this is odd considering how many threads by people clearly state that they did or INTENDED to do something many would consider immoral or something the rules of this forum prohibits, but "legal alarms" didn't go off in the forum and the threads still remain. Really lascivious topics.

But, if I understand his question correctly, the idea of being turned on by your doctor makes people take a pretty defensive stance.

You don't see this much push back for the innumerable threads about tickling unsuspecting people among other things.

And honestly, the reason for that is because most people don't want to be ganged up on, but they don't think about that when another person feels that THEY'RE ganging up on them.

That being said, as much of a benefit of a doubt I wanted to give to tickleteasing for possibly misspeaking, the fact is that they did straightforwardly just ask a basic question. Unless such an open-ended question could lead to some kind of threat, there's little reason to ask his intentions.

If anybody suggested that they were planning to become or wanted the help of a professional to do something illegal, those are definitely red flags and cause to call 911.

But in relation to this hypothetical scenario of being attracted to a (specific) doctor on this site, all he asked was "What would you do" at your appointment?

It's not an average question, but it's also not leading or investigative. It couldn't be used to give up your personal information or anything. It's so open ended that a person could say anything and it would satisfy the query. If anything, this isn't the sort of question a criminal would ask. It's more like what an undercover cop might ask.

As for the "ideas" an actual deviant might get, I'm not sure what "ideas" a "special kind of stupid" person could get from this discussion. Unless they were already a licensed doctor, looking for women on this site to bring on as patients and then seduce them.

But first, tickleteasing apparently isn't a doctor.

And second, what are the odds that a doctor, who's gone to school for almost a decade and earned their PHD would even be crazy enough to post this question on this website to commit a crime?

I suppose that there's a chance, yes. They could even pretend to be a common person here. But it's VERY unlikely. And if you look at the OP's posts, he seems genuine in the demeanor he's shown here over 20 years now. That would be one heck of a ruse.

Due to some member's immaturity, I understand the concern of sexualizing a doctor, patient relationship somewhat. But I think that if people think about it before commenting, they would realize what potential answers for this question there are, and what the poster is capable of doing with in replicating this exact scenario, there's less threat posed here to concern yourself with.

The concept is so farfetched that if you're going to be concerned about this, you might as well be suspecting every post.

In my opinion, it's no more worthwhile to worry over than "How would you entertain your fetish if you had a trillion dollars?" or "Would you let someone tickle you for half a million dollars?". There's a 99% chance that nobody here has that kind of money. So MOST answers to such a question, regardless of how dark they are, are irrelevant unless someone starts asking personal questions or targeting people answering them with harassment. And that can happen anywhere.

I respect everyone's need to be cautious in order to keep themselves, their loved ones and other people safe. Personally, I don't have much to lose right now by giving people the benefit of a doubt to really figure them out, and I hope to remain a voice of reason to others as long as those are my circumstances. That's all I'm doing in this thread.

If people are going to live in a constant state of suspicion, just try to keep paranoia in check long enough to get to know people. Distrust disables your ability to perceive and think, and that's when people start appealing to prejudice and discrimination, leading to labeling and hurting harmless people and things. And sometimes, paranoia doesn't avert any disaster, it just makes it clearer to actual criminals what they have to appear like in order to trick you into trusting them.

Lastly, I'll just say that I noticed that tickleteasing asks a lot of their questions in this format. It's possible that they only presented this scenario in the form of a direct question because it's the easiest way for them to get a response about something they want to talk about. And because they apparently deal with anxiety, they weren't going to respond to some of the people being particularly critical of his question.

But once again, I don't think that the question needed to raise those kinds of alarms, which is why I just suggested we let him explain what they were asking.

All in all, I think that this was a good learning experience for everybody, if not only for the OP.

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Bro, nobody was “threatened” or “alarmed” by the post, nor did anyone “gang up” on the OP or say that OP isn’t “allowed” to pose the question. People simply answered the question of “what would most women do?” You can’t get mad at people for giving realistic answers when you only wanted fantasy answers if you didn’t state it’s a fantasy only. As for people with medical kinks supposedly feeling unwelcome, that’s irrelevant, because the question had nothing to do with consensual fantasy roleplay scenarios in the BDSM scene; it was a “what would you do” about a potential real life scenario that, while unlikely, could still be possible.

But sure, go ahead and brand us all terrible people for not saying “mmmm I’d fuck my gynaecologist and let him tickle me *drool*”