Gimme that Christian side-hug!

Babbles · Nov 25, 2009

CrystalLight said:
Babbles, I dig the enthusiasm for Jesus. And I much can relate. But I don't think Ru meant a lot of harm. It was gross, yes, and I don't agree with it. But a lot of his friends are very much Christian and I don't think he did that to deliberately cause harm.

Then you, and his other friends, are far more Christian than I am,
because I don't see any redeeming humo(u)r in ridiculing someone else's beliefs.
Or race, gender, size, Etc.

So perhaps I should begin a thread making fun of Brits of Indian? descent. Really, no harm done.

Likewise for whatever means anything to anyone else here
who finds it cool to crap on someone else's inner sanctum.

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=165134

Artoo said:
I had to put up with one of my teachers making racist remarks towards me because she couldn't pronounce my surname.

In hindsight, what a ****.

Artoo said:
Babbles, I have nothing against Christians.
I believe, however, that the idea that a full-frontal hug is something which puts my immortal soul in danger of burning in hell for all eternity to be completely ridiculous.

This thread was simply a little bit of fun. Roll with it. 🙂

"Ridiculous" paired with this thread^ would be correct.

Artoo said:

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=166350

Korastus said:
Ummmmmm. Yeah. About that. Calm down.
He wasn't insulting anybody. That video, and the concept that a hug is something that should avoided because it would make Jesus angry is... well, it's crazy. Really crazy.
Wasn't really an attack on christianity, just a silly offshoot.

I'm quite calm, thank you, in spite of the varied font for easy reading.

The idea that Jesus would find a normal hug offensive is also what's "crazy. Really crazy" here.
---Who dug that up and from what drainage tunnel? That "extra info" was somehow overlooked. :sherlock:

Replaced by a photo of an abused asshole. Perhaps the one who provided it.

A calming hug, no problem I'm sure.
An intrusive, disrespectful public grope-and-grind, regardless of angle, would obviously be another matter.

Artoo's not the only one to be offensive, but he really illustrated his point.
I ignored it until he created a thread to further enshrine it.

TKLMAN said:
I didn't watch it , but is this the video that shows a US soldier throwing a Christian off a cliff?

I wouldn't be so quick to assume Mr. Carlin would be impressed with your presumptuous usage of his visage.
Obviously you share the popular gross disrespect for the tragically/prematurely deceased.
Got dog? Hope not. Got "Christian" dog? Hope-less.

MrMacphisto · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
Then you, and his other friends, are far more Christian than I am,
because I don't see any redeeming humo(u)r in ridiculing someone else's beliefs.
Or race, gender, size, Etc.

So perhaps I should begin a thread making fun of Brits of Indian? descent. Really, no harm done.

Likewise for whatever means anything to anyone else here
who finds it cool to crap on someone else's inner sanctum.

You'd have to be pretty dense not to see the difference between demeaning someone's race/gender/ethnicity and demeaning the ridiculous views of a fanatical minority.

I know I rag on religion a lot, but I have Christian friends, some of whom are of the fundamentalist variety, but even they don't see a full hug as being damnable.

So what Artoo was parodying isn't even reflective of the vast majority of Christians. He was poking fun at a very small subgroup, which, quite frankly, deserves ridicule if it believes in something so stupid.

Skipadeedoodah · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
So perhaps I should begin a thread making fun of Brits of Indian? descent. Really, no harm done.

There is a very big difference between the kind of joke Artoo made, with no malicious intentions, about one nonsensical idea held by a very small, fanatical subgroup of Christians, and you singling him out for ridicule, which is exactly what this entire post has been.

I get the point you're trying to illustrate, but you're really making it difficult for anyone to agree with you when you behave this way. You're free to have your opinion about Christians, Jews or British/Indian hotties, but singling someone out is not cool. If he had done that, he would have been told the same thing. You're crossing a line, dude.

Babbles · Nov 25, 2009

MrMacphisto said:
You'd have to be pretty dense not to see the difference between demeaning someone's race/gender/ethnicity and demeaning the ridiculous views of a fanatical minority.

I know I rag on religion a lot, but I have Christian friends, some of whom are of the fundamentalist variety, but even they don't see a full hug as being damnable.

So what Artoo was parodying isn't even reflective of the vast majority of Christians. He was poking fun at a very small subgroup, which, quite frankly, deserves ridicule if it believes in something so stupid.

Really? And where here is there any reference other than to
generalized, overall, supposed "Christian" practices?

In the title of the thread, maybe?

Nowhere does he write that this is some radical splinter group he's referring to.
Maybe I got annoyed and turned off the video too soon. From what's written here, this is totally inappropriate.

The term "Christians" doesn't translate to
"a very small subgroup" of Christianity.

I know this particular nonsense isn't in my background, but I fall under the same umbrella.

And as I also illustrated, for those "dense" among us,
this isn't the first or only example, though this thread *is more than enough offense in itself.

Obviously belief systems can be altered, though not always easily,
while race can't change.

However, as I wrote, as you even quoted me *yourself;
Likewise for whatever means anything to anyone else here
who finds it cool to crap on someone else's inner sanctum.

Whether it's race, religion, gender, what-have-you. Whatever is signficant to the individual.

He didn't appreciate a racist teacher.

I don't appreciate ANY of the bigots in this forum who think it's funny to parody Christians --- generally.

And by the way, that was a hypothetical statement to illustrate my point.

I don't think you'd appreciate me & others repeatedly picking apart and laughing at whatever is YOUR race, gender, ethnicity --- or personal philosophy.

MrMacphisto · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
Really? And where here is there any reference other than to
generalized, overall, supposed "Christian" practices?

In the title of the thread, maybe?

Nowhere does he write that this is some radical splinter group he's referring to.
Maybe I got annoyed and turned off the video too soon. From what's written here, this is totally inappropriate.

The term "Christians" doesn't translate to
"a very small subgroup" of Christianity.

I know this particular nonsense isn't in my background, but I fall under the same umbrella.

And as I also illustrated, for those "dense" among us,
this isn't the first or only example, though this thread *is more than enough offense in itself.

Obviously belief systems can be altered, though not always easily,
while race can't change.

However, as I wrote, as you even quoted me *yourself;
Likewise for whatever means anything to anyone else here
who finds it cool to crap on someone else's inner sanctum.

Whether it's race, religion, gender, what-have-you. Whatever is signficant to the individual.

He didn't appreciate a racist teacher.

I don't appreciate ANY of the bigots in this forum who think it's funny to parody Christians --- generally.

And by the way, that was a hypothetical statement to illustrate my point.

I don't think you'd appreciate me & others repeatedly picking apart and laughing at whatever is YOUR race, gender, ethnicity --- or personal philosophy.

Well, if we're keeping track... I'm white, male, with some English, Irish, Scotch, and probably a shitload of other things... I'm also atheist.

People make jokes about the English, Irish, and Scotch, and I don't get offended. People can poke fun at atheism if they'd like. I honestly don't care. I don't mind defending my views either, which is why I spend probably too much time in the P&R.

I understand that people have different tolerances for ridicule based on race, gender, and religion. But when it comes to this particular thread, you're being very thin-skinned.

You made a weak analogy, and I called you out for it.

Either way, as you said yourself, you don't ascribe to the side hug nonsense, so acting resentful about a video that doesn't even portray an attitude or viewpoint you have seems pretty pointless.

Babbles · Nov 25, 2009

It's always open season on Christians.

Skipadeedoodah said:
There is a very big difference between the kind of joke Artoo made, with no malicious intentions, about one nonsensical idea held by a very small, fanatical subgroup of Christians, and you singling him out for ridicule, which is exactly what this entire post has been.

I get the point you're trying to illustrate, but you're really making it difficult for anyone to agree with you when you behave this way. You're free to have your opinion about Christians, Jews or British/Indian hotties, but singling someone out is not cool. If he had done that, he would have been told the same thing. You're crossing a line, dude.

My "entire post" is protesting the *rampant abuse heaped upon my religious beliefs. Here and elsewhere.

I'm "singling out" whoever created an entire thread for this purpose, and who previously posted an offensive illustration mocking my religion.
Which I had otherwise ignored.

I hope I have no pre-set opinions about any groups, and I'm not singling anyone out for ridicule. This also isn't the first time I've spoken out about this.

I've noted more than once here as well --- he's not the only one.

He just happened to take it a bit farther, and create a thread which seems to mock "Christians" generally.
If anything I'm making myself an easier target, once again, with the unpopular view.

It's obviously not cool to be Christian here where so many jokingly
and freely "cross a line" with my religion, generally,

which seems to be open for casual ridicule.

Babbles · Nov 25, 2009

Not just "thin-skinned" on my own behalf.

MrMacphisto said:
....You made a weak analogy, and I called you out for it.

Either way, as you said yourself, you don't ascribe to the side hug nonsense, so acting resentful about a video that doesn't even portray an attitude or viewpoint you have seems pretty pointless.

A "weak analogy?"

Are you not familiar with the phrase, "race, religion or sex?"

Whatever is significant (or inherent) to the individual ----

"Christians" are generally labelled ridiculous here. Again. That got old for many of us quite a while ago.

I answered you thoroughly; you give no details as to how I'm supposedly incorrect in taking offense at repeated stabs --- except irrelevant ones regarding your own background. My point is I don't care what anyone is, and I'd like the same courtesy ----
If those details of your background or philosophy are not significant to you, then you are the one giving the "weak analogy" here.

Pick something that does matter to you, if anything, allow or find its repeated ridicule,

and get back to me.

Of course this video "doesn't even portray an attitude or viewpoint" I share. It's a ludicrous smack at Christianity.
I'm not into mocking other peoples' religious views and creating threads to ridicule them with emphasis.

Skipadeedoodah · Nov 25, 2009

I don't know if you realize this, but several of the posters in this very thread who are telling you to simmer down are Christians, myself included. Nobody is picking on you for being a Christian. There are a million and a half posts around here that address any group you can imagine. Take a look at how many Polish jokes, blonde jokes, lawyer jokes, cheerleader jokes, black jokes, dead baby jokes, etc exist. Nobody is picking on YOU.

You want to talk about open season? The amount of Jewish, Canadian and Mexican jokes that fly around here (just to name a few) is astounding. Everybody takes a turn at getting zinged every now and again, and it's rarely (if ever) with malicious intentions. This thread, and all of the other posts that you quoted from Artoo, were all done in a light-hearted, joking manner, with no offense intended. Obviously, you can't or won't see that.

The rampant abuse heaped on your religious beliefs?? Dude...THESE AREN'T EVEN YOUR BELIEFS!! Unless you agree with this idea of side-hugging, you're getting all pissy in your pants over something that has nothing to do with you. Would you feel any better if the title of thread were changed to "Gimme that side-hug that is promoted only by a small subset of fanatical Christians, and the views and commentary expressed herein are only meant toward those particular five people - the rest of you Christians are aces." I'm thinking you'd still have your panties all in a bunch because of the fact that your religion was mentioned at all.

My advice to you would be to simmer down and learn to take a joke - particularly one that is not aimed at you.

MrMacphisto · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
A "weak analogy?"

Are you not familiar with the phrase, "race, religion or sex?"

Whatever is significant (or inherent) to the individual ----

"Christians" are generally labelled ridiculous here. Again. That got old for many of us quite a while ago.

I answered you thoroughly; you give no details as to how I'm supposedly incorrect in taking offense at repeated stabs --- except irrelevant ones regarding your own background. My point is I don't care what anyone is, and I'd like the same courtesy ----

If those details of your background or philosophy are not significant to you, then you are the one giving the "weak analogy" here.

Maybe the problem here is that you focus too much on what you're identified as.

Being white, male, Anglo-Irish, atheist, left-of-center, and heterosexual doesn't define me. My actions, skills, and interests define me.

Maybe, you're letting the fervency of your beliefs get the better of your sense of humor and patience. I have Christian friends, and yet we're still able to poke fun at Christian fanatics together, because they don't identify themselves as being the same as them.

There are atheist fanatics too, which make asses of themselves by being too dogmatic in their beliefs, and when people make fun of them, I don't feel offended because I know I'm not the same as them.

So, if anything, you seem to be demonstrating some significant insecurities involving your identity as a Christian by throwing such a fit in this thread over something that was never intended to be a hurtful mark against Christians in general.

Artoo · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
So perhaps I should begin a thread making fun of Brits of Indian? descent. Really, no harm done.

*sigh*

First of all, if that was a jab at my ancestry you failed absolutely to get my country of origin correct.

Secondly, if you can't see the difference between making fun of someone's race (which is purely a geographical accident of birth that the individual in question has no control over) and questioning the legitimacy of someone's beliefs based on the fact that they make no sense whatsoever, then I really don't know what more can be said.

venray · Nov 25, 2009

I must also add that Christianity is not a religion.....it is a way of life following the principles and examples of Jesus Christ, who would probably have shaken his head and forgiven......and moved on.....

I tire of people (not you Babbles but people in general) who jump on the "Christian bandwagon" when it suits them, but live their daily lives a lot differently than Christ would have....

If we cant laugh at ourselves, then we are lost....

Deleted member 66627 · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
It's obviously not cool to be Christian here where so many jokingly
and freely "cross a line" with my religion, generally,

which seems to be open for casual ridicule.

Anything seems to be open for casual ride here, Babbles. Christian, Non-Christian, even using tickling to interrogate Muslims. Which many seem to find horrific.

You carry your beliefs strongly and there's nothing wrong with that. And if you feel your beliefs are being mocked, then by all means stand up for them. But I don't see anywhere in this thread anything mocking how You and You Alone practice or choose to follow God and His word.

All of that is set in your own mind and heart. And the only person who really sees that expression is God Himself.

We all don't practice our religious beliefs the same way you do. This could also be the same in our expression of 'serious' topics that was discussed prior in the now locked thread about animal abuse. We all walk paths differently, or not at all. Just because someone doesn't go along the same guidelines you do, doesn't always necessarily mean they have to be hung out to dry as roughly as you did to them.

I don't feel like you're forcing anyone to follow your beliefs or even the general belief in God, but you're being a little heavy-handed with this feeling of slander against Your Religion and Your practice. When no-one has singled you out in this thread.

I follow God, I believe in God and I practice His word My way. My connection to him has no ties to this thread or the message the OP was sending whether in jest or not. I more or less read the over-all message of this thread and shrugged. So what if it's not speaking to how I follow Him? My solace lies in knowing that He is aware of my feelings and knows where my heart lies.

I'm not going to slam folks who don't believe that or get pissed off that they don't SEE what I see. You can only hope that perhaps one day they might in their own way and even then if they don't, that's completely fine too.

slacker2114 · Nov 25, 2009

Nothing against anyone for their personal beliefs in this thread, but I despise extremism of any kind. That video that Ru posted is fanatical extremism at it's worst and even smacks of brainwashed youth. Sorry, but it deserves as much ridicule as this guy...
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Artoo · Nov 25, 2009

slacker2114 said:
Sorry, but it deserves as much ridicule as this guy...

Holy. Fuck.
Jesus would be spinning in his grave.

Babbles · Nov 25, 2009

Artoo said:
*sigh*

First of all, if that was a jab at my ancestry you failed absolutely to get my country of origin correct.

Secondly, if you can't see the difference between making fun of someone's race (which is purely a geographical accident of birth that the individual in question has no control over) and questioning the legitimacy of someone's beliefs based on the fact that they make no sense whatsoever, then I really don't know what more can be said.

As I made clear previously, albeit probably in a reply to Mr.Macphisto, I don't care what you are or where you're from.

The point was (articulated already, I stated the very same distinction earlier) -- mocking what is significant or inherent to an individual.

By birth or choice.

"Race, religion and gender" are a combined mantra for good reason,
even if only two of three are biological.

You weren't too happy with the racist teacher who "joked" ??? about your last name.

I'll bet she was Christian. Either way, you might've learned from that pleasant experience, rather than continuing to be a smart-ass....

Artoo said:
Holy. Fuck.
Jesus would be spinning in his grave.

That was the point of Easter. The grave was empty. You can refer back to your Zombie Last Supper.

Artoo · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
"Race, religion and gender" are a combined mantra for good reason

It's a combined mantra for no good reason whatsoever. Why should I tiptoe around someone's religion when it's clearly a choice, rather than something they cannot control.
In way of a metaphor, people choose what political party they affiliate themselves with. Those parties have ideals, and agendas. But we're allowed to disagree with someone's political choices a great deal more vehemantly than we are someone's religion. And there's no justifiable reason for that.

In the words of the immortal Douglas Adams;

'Here is an idea or a notion that you're not allowed to say anything bad about; you're just not. Why not? - because you're not!'

AmandaBear · Nov 25, 2009

Please tell me this is a joke...? :shock:

It just has to be. D:

And like everyone else has been saying, it's silly to get all upset at a video that happens to poke fun at a very small Fundie, uber-conservative group of Christians. IMO, Fundies deserve to get laughed at for the utter bullshit they spew everyday.

And I'm in total agreement to what Jo said. Everyone has their own path regarding religious/spiritual beliefs and it's as unique as a thumbprint. And I don't think God condemns any spiritual belief that's not harmful to themselves or to others. Diversity exists for a reason. :shrug:

Artoo · Nov 25, 2009

AmandaBear said:
Please tell me this is a joke...? It just has to be. D:

If it is, it's based on truth.
When I was a bible-believing Christian, I remember being taught not to give full-frontal hugs to people, in case we all wound up having premarital sex due to the lustful thoughts that hugging will inevitably cause.

Korastus · Nov 25, 2009

So much anger over such a silly video, mocking such a stupid concept. :sowrong:

MrMacphisto · Nov 25, 2009

This...

Babbles said:
I'll bet she was Christian. Either way, you might've learned from that pleasant experience, rather than continuing to be a smart-ass....

is best responded to with this...

venray said:
If we cant laugh at ourselves, then we are lost....

tickledorange · Nov 25, 2009

slacker2114 said:
Nothing against anyone for their personal beliefs in this thread, but I despise extremism of any kind. That video that Ru posted is fanatical extremism at it's worst and even smacks of brainwashed youth. Sorry, but it deserves as much ridicule as this guy...
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I'm sorry, but if god hates a fag, he must really have it out for this guy.

ViperGTS · Nov 25, 2009

... ... ... oh god ... I ... I can't breathe ...

Christian Side Hugs?
Goatse Rolls? (see what I did thar)
Babbles going fucking bonkers?
Christianity in general?

This is the funniest thread I have ever read. I am literally LOLing.

Soda Bobinski · Nov 25, 2009

Babbles said:
I wouldn't be so quick to assume Mr. Carlin would be impressed with your presumptuous usage of his visage.
Obviously you share the popular gross disrespect for the tragically/prematurely deceased.

Dude , if you want a side-hug from me , all you hafta do is ask. :twohugs:

Deleted member 66627 · Nov 26, 2009

TKLMAN said:
Dude , if you want a side-hug from me , all you hafta do is ask.

LMFAO

And, Carlin would be having a fucking field day with this, God bless him. I don't think Babbles has really heard any of his work.. :blaugh:

SoundSiren · Nov 26, 2009

LMAO!! I second this! :roflmao:

ViperGTS said:
... ... ... oh god ... I ... I can't breathe ...

Christian Side Hugs?
Goatse Rolls? (see what I did thar)
Babbles going fucking bonkers?
Christianity in general?

This is the funniest thread I have ever read. I am literally LOLing.

Gimme that Christian side-hug!

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