1992 news story: "Police volunteer cuffed, tickled"

[Sandrock74]

It isn't easy for females among cops anyways - just heard of a case where a young female police officer shot herself because she was mistreated by colleagues. She rather shot herself than complaining - because she was afraid to be considered a bitch!

Sounds like she had other problems to me. If you kill yourself, that's your own fault, not the fault of others. She could have done any number of things before shooting herself. Sounds like she needed professional help.

 

[rhiannon]

Sounds like she had other problems to me. If you kill yourself, that's your own fault, not the fault of others. She could have done any number of things before shooting herself. Sounds like she needed professional help.

Of course she needed professional help! But she should also have made a complaint! The mobbing for sure was a big part of what made her kill herself!

I am just saying that a lot of incidents like that (even rape!) are not getting reported because the victim is afraid that people aren't going to believe her/him and they will be looked at as being at fault in the end.

 

[ViperGTS]

I agree, I think we need more information about the circumstances. I still think it was blown WAY out of proportion.

Unwanted touch is not sexual unless it's intended to be by the person who gave the unwanted touch. The person being touched doesn't have the right to say how the other person meant to touch them.

Now, if the officer touched her chest, crotch or ass, that is sexual touching since they are touching what is considered a sexual bodypart. But if he tickled her tummy or her sides, and others were there to see it, and it was just horseplay, people shouldn't jump right to "sexual" harassment.

I know for a fact that someone is going to take this the wrong way but I am going to say it anyway. Women have too much power when it comes to pointing the finger and yelling "SEXUAL HARASSMENT!" All they have to do is not like someone for any reason at all, and say to someone in power "Such-and-such sexually harassed/assaulted me!" and all of a sudden, a whole shebang starts and the guy, guilty or not, is an offender and a criminal.

Of course, asshole, perverted men are who GAVE them the power, by thinking they can touch any woman at any time in any way they want. Now employers and superiors HAVE to take every complaint seriously because both men AND women lie about this shit, either about touching or being touched, and without video evidence, nothing can be proven.

What sucks the most is that it's never going to change - some men are always going to think they can get away with touching a woman inappropriately, and some women will always take advantage of the ability to get any man in trouble they want to with just a few words.

I am just glad I don't add to the problem and I keep my damned hands to myself at work.

 

[rhiannon]

I still think it was blown WAY out of proportion.

I also think firing was way too harsh and the five days without pay are enough as a reprimand.

Unwanted touch is not sexual unless it's intended to be by the person who gave the unwanted touch. The person being touched doesn't have the right to say how the other person meant to touch them.

Now, if the officer touched her chest, crotch or ass, that is sexual touching since they are touching what is considered a sexual bodypart. But if he tickled her tummy or her sides, and others were there to see it, and it was just horseplay, people shouldn't jump right to "sexual" harassment.

I would agree if the male officers get tickled by the other cops as well! 🙂 If that wasn't the case, it did indeed have sexual connotations of some sort! So if everybody gets tickled around there - horseplay! If she was the only one...hmmmm....not sure!! Could have been in a sexual direction!

Of course, asshole, perverted men are who GAVE them the power, by thinking they can touch any woman at any time in any way they want. Now employers and superiors HAVE to take every complaint seriously because both men AND women lie about this shit, either about touching or being touched, and without video evidence, nothing can be proven.

Totally agreed.

I am just glad I don't add to the problem and I keep my damned hands to myself at work.

Hopefully you won't start implementing that policy for your clips! 🙂

 

[LuckyAndre]

When I was in the Marine Corps, I was the Duty NCO of the barracks one night. The next morning my job was to bang on the doors of each Marine's door to wake up for revele (forgot how its spelled) We lived in a co-ed style apartment complex. Women's rooms were on the first floor, 3 to a room. I did my rounds and got to the womens section and banged on every door saying the same thing to everyone everytime: "Get up Get up revele, get your ass outta the racks!" 8 female rooms, 3 to a room, ONE female, a Corporal, who everyone thought was a bitch anyway, decides to write me up on charges of sexual harrassment. Even her roomates and the other 21 women thought nothing of it. It goes on daily and she decides, I was sexually harrasing her. She wasnt even MY type. At the Office Hours hearing the charges were dropped anyway AND because my Captain, KNEW the type of women I dated and knew damn well I wasnt gonna lose a stripe over this b**ch. But because she was a Corporal she had to use her power.

 

[rhiannon]

What goes on in the military with that is ridiculous anyways!

 

[ViperGTS]

LuckyAndre - what the fuck was she upset about? You mentioned "racks"?

better not ever talk about cantelopes, either.



...you know, a melon reference?

 

[LuckyAndre]

LuckyAndre - what the fuck was she upset about? You mentioned "racks"? better not ever talk about cantelopes, either.
...you know, a melon reference?

No we used to say "racks" as in beds. She claimed because I said 'asses'. Anyone who has been in the military knows that some curse (cuss) words are used like regular talk. So when Sgt So and So says "Get your fucking act together Marine!", im not gonna go crying cause he cursed at me. So she tried to use that as a way of me sexually harrassing her AND the women of the barracks. She tried to get all of them to sign a form against me and none of them did back her because it was silly. If Im gonna sexually harrass some woman and KNOW Im gonna get my ass handed to me when caught, then Im gonna go all the way and make the charges worth while. *PS, no ladies, Im not planning on sexually harrassing anyone" I get away with enough as it is, and they consider Andre "so cute with his little toe thing" 🙂

 

[gilmourwaters]

She should have brought up on charges (or at least busted down a stripe) for reporting bogus charges...if anything it would dial her down a notch

 

[rhiannon]

Who says she reported bogus charges? What she complained about definitely happened, it's just the question how to interpret it.

 

[GirlWhoLikes2Laugh]

Thanks for sharing that story about the woman getting tickled by the cop and the sargent. I don't there's anything wrong about him getting re-hired. I guess they figured they were overreacting. A part of me still thinks that what they did wasn't great but as the article said, it was playful and not sexual.