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4X foot tickling (personal favorites)
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Celtic_Emperor
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You can't tell who drew the first two? Its none other that Scamwich. I haven't seen any of these though. Good batch. 🙂
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I was already in this forum refreshing the page, and yours popped up, so thats why. 🙂
Yes he is. He's a tie for my favorite artist in the community. His skill is easily on a level of it's own, especially when looking at his recent works.
Yes he is. He's a tie for my favorite artist in the community. His skill is easily on a level of it's own, especially when looking at his recent works.
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Scamwich, one of the best foot artists of our time!
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He's actually not a foot artist per say and doesn't draw these pictures in the name of fetishism. He himself will tell you this. Its very easy for people to misunderstand dabbling in a genre for being of that genre to begin with.
Its like me, alot of people think that just because I update a few sites that are within this community, this community of tickling, that this is all I do. People assume. Not that I'm saying you are doing that, you are probably just misinformed.
I can understand though how his great contributions to this community makes it seem as though this is all he does. If you've seen the broader aspect of his art, you will know this is not so. Same with me, and pretty much any artist I would image.
Is there really an artist among us who devotes ALL of their artistic talent to tickling and the like? I wouldn't think so.
Now, if you were just meaning to say he draws feet well, or is one of the best, of course I'll agree with that. 🙂
And he's not just a great drawer of feet, but a great drawer of anything period. He's easily one of the best artists, all-around, that we have. I'd definitely put him in the top 5, and first place with a tie for anime-style inparticular. And his coloring jobs are phenominal, practically unmatched.
Its like me, alot of people think that just because I update a few sites that are within this community, this community of tickling, that this is all I do. People assume. Not that I'm saying you are doing that, you are probably just misinformed.
I can understand though how his great contributions to this community makes it seem as though this is all he does. If you've seen the broader aspect of his art, you will know this is not so. Same with me, and pretty much any artist I would image.
Is there really an artist among us who devotes ALL of their artistic talent to tickling and the like? I wouldn't think so.
Now, if you were just meaning to say he draws feet well, or is one of the best, of course I'll agree with that. 🙂
And he's not just a great drawer of feet, but a great drawer of anything period. He's easily one of the best artists, all-around, that we have. I'd definitely put him in the top 5, and first place with a tie for anime-style inparticular. And his coloring jobs are phenominal, practically unmatched.
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Scamwich made those first two around 2001. Love that first one of the Resident Evil girls. And I just love those Synful Pryde ones. That last one is so sexy and cute and too damn good!
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The way I've evaluated how it is, based strictly on talent, skill and experience (as well as some others), there are two categories for anime artists in this community- Top 10, and Top 5.
Top ten is a great achievement, as to me it implies that you are somehow recognized by the community for your contributions. It implies you've bested out several, if not many other artists, to reach this spot. Not that you were trying to get there. It just naturally happened with due process. The artists who are the most prominent remain, and those that are not, disappear into obsecurity. Its almost like natural selection! LOL Kidding. ^^
Its very fair to say though that there are those that are a cut and shave above everyone else. These are the top five individuals. To me they get this spot because of a combination of things including but not limited to:
- Experience
- Exceeding talent
- Mastery of the pen/pencil/tablet/what have you
- Refined personal skills and styles
- Ability to draw what they see accurately
- Creative ability
- Longevity
There are of course other factors such as how long you've been here, how well you are respected, if you have a sense of leadership, etc. But these are more akin to how you feel about the person, rather than their art.
I know I may get heat for this, but I honestly place myself in the top 5, for the reasons I gave.
Its my opinion that its Scamwich, Okari (owner of Tickleleague), myself, Zero, Slaanesh, and Meacher (sp?) that round out the top 5 (with Okari and Scamwich as a tie for first).
Now, this is just my opinion, and flamming me about it won't be necessary. And its not off topic as the conversation sort of gravited in this direction with cajoling from others as well as myself. Please, those that plan or will reply to me, keep that in mind, and everything will be alright. If you can get through this without getting angry (you know who you are) then you'll be better people for it. 🙂
Top ten is a great achievement, as to me it implies that you are somehow recognized by the community for your contributions. It implies you've bested out several, if not many other artists, to reach this spot. Not that you were trying to get there. It just naturally happened with due process. The artists who are the most prominent remain, and those that are not, disappear into obsecurity. Its almost like natural selection! LOL Kidding. ^^
Its very fair to say though that there are those that are a cut and shave above everyone else. These are the top five individuals. To me they get this spot because of a combination of things including but not limited to:
- Experience
- Exceeding talent
- Mastery of the pen/pencil/tablet/what have you
- Refined personal skills and styles
- Ability to draw what they see accurately
- Creative ability
- Longevity
There are of course other factors such as how long you've been here, how well you are respected, if you have a sense of leadership, etc. But these are more akin to how you feel about the person, rather than their art.
I know I may get heat for this, but I honestly place myself in the top 5, for the reasons I gave.
Its my opinion that its Scamwich, Okari (owner of Tickleleague), myself, Zero, Slaanesh, and Meacher (sp?) that round out the top 5 (with Okari and Scamwich as a tie for first).
Now, this is just my opinion, and flamming me about it won't be necessary. And its not off topic as the conversation sort of gravited in this direction with cajoling from others as well as myself. Please, those that plan or will reply to me, keep that in mind, and everything will be alright. If you can get through this without getting angry (you know who you are) then you'll be better people for it. 🙂
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I dunno...what about Ozzy?
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I'm glad you mention the likes of him. Ok, the reason I did not mention him as top 5 or top 10 is simply because I don't feel his artwork is necessarily anime-ish or manga-like. Its more cartoonish in fact. While animes are cartoons in that sense, the style is completely different. I didn't mark it down as this was strictly for anime-esque type work, only, as I mentioned in my last post.
Its to his credit of course, and he is in a league of his own, much like the others that would not necessarily be classified under the title of "anime artist". Its more like..."cartoonist" for them.
This evaluation, I mean to add, is only an evaluation of how things are now. Things could change at any moment. But generally, this is how I see whose where and at what level. Note this is not a competition, either. Its simply where I see our top 5 talents for anime, allocated at this moment.
Its to his credit of course, and he is in a league of his own, much like the others that would not necessarily be classified under the title of "anime artist". Its more like..."cartoonist" for them.
This evaluation, I mean to add, is only an evaluation of how things are now. Things could change at any moment. But generally, this is how I see whose where and at what level. Note this is not a competition, either. Its simply where I see our top 5 talents for anime, allocated at this moment.
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that's a pretty accurate list. i'm say Chimp makes at least a 6th place since he's so famous and kinda the hero of the forum, everyone knows him, and it feels good when he compliments ya on something. just an all around cool guy, sorta like how people would describe Brad Pitt. but thanks for the lecture, it was very informative. for me i can't say who's my top 5, there's so many i like for certain reasons.
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Now see, thats what I'm talking about. This list was derived of talent and skill, not of personality, etc. If you put it that way, different people would be in different spots and this list would not be accurate as it doesn't weigh in more with the art than it does with the person.
For evaluative purposes its more key to look at talent and skill rather than how nice someone is. Because it can happen that someone can be a dear sweetheart, but their art leaves alot to be desired. Therefore, is it fair for them to be in the top 5, if only because they are so nice? No, of course not. Just as it wouldn't be fair for someone with exception skill and talent to be left out because their personality is lacking.
Art is art, people are people. I think in cases like this we need to seperate the two, as creating a difference and applying it undermines the talent of the artist and undermines their personality as well.
Personality should have nothing to do with it. If it was like that, I wouldn't even be in the top 5, as clearly there are people that have a problem with me. But when you switch it around and don't take personality into consideration, I'm easily put in the top 5 for my category.
Which is being undermined? My talent or my personality? See? Thats why personality should not come into play. It has the potential to cause many issues, and in contests, awards, etc, its unfair on several fronts.
For evaluative purposes its more key to look at talent and skill rather than how nice someone is. Because it can happen that someone can be a dear sweetheart, but their art leaves alot to be desired. Therefore, is it fair for them to be in the top 5, if only because they are so nice? No, of course not. Just as it wouldn't be fair for someone with exception skill and talent to be left out because their personality is lacking.
Art is art, people are people. I think in cases like this we need to seperate the two, as creating a difference and applying it undermines the talent of the artist and undermines their personality as well.
Personality should have nothing to do with it. If it was like that, I wouldn't even be in the top 5, as clearly there are people that have a problem with me. But when you switch it around and don't take personality into consideration, I'm easily put in the top 5 for my category.
Which is being undermined? My talent or my personality? See? Thats why personality should not come into play. It has the potential to cause many issues, and in contests, awards, etc, its unfair on several fronts.
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well right, but that's a view from an overall critic like as an artis Siskel and Ebert. but personally speaking it's much different, since i'm mostly into foot tickling. so Synful Pryde, You, Meacher, Scamwhich, and Chimp, probably as my top 5, not in that order though. it's not accurate, since i have so many favorite artists. Others include Khali, Tomato Dragon, Shock, and a few others. I also admire Rajee for his persistance and amount of work he has, even though he's not one of the top artists and hasn't 1,000s of compliments, he still does what he loves doing. anyway, i understand what your saying, but personally what i like is different in an artist.
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Siskel is dead. Its Roupert now. 😛
I understand and respect that. But see, its that partialness that creates adversity and room for undermining. Why not let the art and the art alone speak for itself, and/or the artist on their art's behalf?
If this were a personality contest things would be different. We're all nice people, we all take requests, we all help out when we can, we all like doing what we do, and we all try. In this regard, I don't see how any one individual stands out or deserves recognition over someone else.
With art its different, its a tangible skill and medium that, when judged, provides people with a clear and decisive opinion, fact even. If someone's skills are poor, is that not apparent? When someone's skills are grand, is that not apparent? If someone could stand to try a little harder, is that not apparent? When someone is already trying harder, is that not apparent?
Art has a way of being very undisputable, no matter how you approach it. And I think, when you are talking about things such as "the best" or "one of the top" etc, it would imply that those individuals are clearly marked in a different way than the many others that try as well.
These people are not necessarily "better" overall, but for what they are being judged for, in this case "top 5 anime artists", they definitely deserve the props and the title. Why? Because they have and they do excel in what the award or distinction is honoring them for.
Case by case. Case by case.
I understand and respect that. But see, its that partialness that creates adversity and room for undermining. Why not let the art and the art alone speak for itself, and/or the artist on their art's behalf?
If this were a personality contest things would be different. We're all nice people, we all take requests, we all help out when we can, we all like doing what we do, and we all try. In this regard, I don't see how any one individual stands out or deserves recognition over someone else.
With art its different, its a tangible skill and medium that, when judged, provides people with a clear and decisive opinion, fact even. If someone's skills are poor, is that not apparent? When someone's skills are grand, is that not apparent? If someone could stand to try a little harder, is that not apparent? When someone is already trying harder, is that not apparent?
Art has a way of being very undisputable, no matter how you approach it. And I think, when you are talking about things such as "the best" or "one of the top" etc, it would imply that those individuals are clearly marked in a different way than the many others that try as well.
These people are not necessarily "better" overall, but for what they are being judged for, in this case "top 5 anime artists", they definitely deserve the props and the title. Why? Because they have and they do excel in what the award or distinction is honoring them for.
Case by case. Case by case.
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Ohhhh ok, I...I missed the word anime before. w/e
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Its quite alright. I'm glad we did this. Goodnight. 🙂
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The way I see it, there is no such thing as a chart. It's down to personal preference as to who the viewer likes more and such. And personally, what's offensive about that?
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Because it side steps the talent in favor of using personality as filler to make up for any shortcomings in the art. This wouldn't happen if the art alone was evaluated during such evaluations.
When a particular trait of a person is being called into question or evaluated, its common sense that that trait alone is evaluated. In this case, it would be the skill they have as an artist and how great their art is, etc. And based from that, it gives you an idea of what level people are at compared to others. It what marks the great ones from the good ones.
I'm not saying what you guys are saying isn't true. On the contrary, I believe personality plays a big part in the presentation of a person. Afterall, its the personality that draws you to the person just as much as their art. I'm not disagreeing with anything anyone is saying at all and you both bring up good points. People will like who they like.
I'm just saying having that sentiment and sense of blind, friendly loyalty when evaluating something specific for an evaluation, contest, etc, makes people partial, and they end up voting or whatever for the wrong reasons. Its like voting for a candidate that doesn't support the issues you do, but...since he has a nice face you're voting for him.
Likewise, with this evaluation of where I see our top 5, they are where they are because they have earned that extra step and mention.
Sure, I could have listed the top 10 as well, but I doubt I would have known enough about their work to accurately place it any particular order.
Note, I'm not suggesting people should be grouped like this in any other instance unless it would make sense or serves as some kind of example. I'm saying, strictly for evaluative purposes, it makes sense to know who is who, where they are, and why they are there.
Do these people not deserve to be there? I think so. They are the best we have to offer and so deserve that extra mention, and all of them have good personalities so thats a non-issue. As it's obvious, all of them but one (me) are not currently active here.
So I'm taking it upon myself to give the honorable mentions based on how I've evaluated their work (and mine consequentally) over the years. It is these people, these five that have shown to me the most promise, the most potential, and the highest drawing skills for ANIME-MANGA STYLE ARTWORK.
Outside of evaluations, of course you're right, it doesn't matter, and I agree with you. But when you are called to be technical you should be technical. That way, it leaves no room for mistakes or second guesses. A time when opinion and personal feelings don't play a part, facts do.
When a particular trait of a person is being called into question or evaluated, its common sense that that trait alone is evaluated. In this case, it would be the skill they have as an artist and how great their art is, etc. And based from that, it gives you an idea of what level people are at compared to others. It what marks the great ones from the good ones.
I'm not saying what you guys are saying isn't true. On the contrary, I believe personality plays a big part in the presentation of a person. Afterall, its the personality that draws you to the person just as much as their art. I'm not disagreeing with anything anyone is saying at all and you both bring up good points. People will like who they like.
I'm just saying having that sentiment and sense of blind, friendly loyalty when evaluating something specific for an evaluation, contest, etc, makes people partial, and they end up voting or whatever for the wrong reasons. Its like voting for a candidate that doesn't support the issues you do, but...since he has a nice face you're voting for him.
Likewise, with this evaluation of where I see our top 5, they are where they are because they have earned that extra step and mention.
Sure, I could have listed the top 10 as well, but I doubt I would have known enough about their work to accurately place it any particular order.
Note, I'm not suggesting people should be grouped like this in any other instance unless it would make sense or serves as some kind of example. I'm saying, strictly for evaluative purposes, it makes sense to know who is who, where they are, and why they are there.
Do these people not deserve to be there? I think so. They are the best we have to offer and so deserve that extra mention, and all of them have good personalities so thats a non-issue. As it's obvious, all of them but one (me) are not currently active here.
So I'm taking it upon myself to give the honorable mentions based on how I've evaluated their work (and mine consequentally) over the years. It is these people, these five that have shown to me the most promise, the most potential, and the highest drawing skills for ANIME-MANGA STYLE ARTWORK.
Outside of evaluations, of course you're right, it doesn't matter, and I agree with you. But when you are called to be technical you should be technical. That way, it leaves no room for mistakes or second guesses. A time when opinion and personal feelings don't play a part, facts do.
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