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Amazing New Renfaire Stuff

Hello as an absolutely huge fan of renfaire content this looks absolutely fantastic 🙂 I hope there will be plenty of footage showing the audience reaction too. I will be happy to join for this 🙂
 
The audience reaction would be much more "enthusiastic" if your bare soles were the ones being tickled in the stocks Lydia. 😉
 
Hello as an absolutely huge fan of renfaire content this looks absolutely fantastic 🙂 I hope there will be plenty of footage showing the audience reaction too. I will be happy to join for this 🙂

I Would really like to know where they filmed this
 
waou.... I honnestly never thought that this would be possible, a patreon specialized in new renfaire stuff, i am definately gonna join if it helps with this project.. this looks great
 
Not to be a downer, but isnt this group pretty suspicious? Can you really charge for videos of random people being tickled? Did all those people sign an agreement that they didnt mind that footage being used for fetish videos, for somebody elses profit?

Couple that with the comments, in which they brush off peoples annoyance that theyre now holding this content for ransom after their paetrons literally donated money so they could make this... The promise that this will be a seperate "tier" which implies to me they want to now charge those people more to actually view the content they paid for already... and there are various people asking when the model seen at the beginning will be tickled which is met with the response of "when more people donate..." But then other comments reveal they promised this for their past presenters too and never delievered on that...

Like, I get it, theyre producing the kind of content we would all like to see... But try not to let that cloud your better judgement.
 
I like the fact that this is being done by other women instead of older men. Makes it look less creepy and more inviting to those who don't know much about tickling fetishes.
 
Couple that with the comments, in which they brush off peoples annoyance that theyre now holding this content for ransom after their paetrons literally donated money so they could make this... The promise that this will be a seperate "tier" which implies to me they want to now charge those people more to actually view the content they paid for already...

Exactly.

Looks great, but we won't see the content until Doomsday if the producer keeps to that target of 500 subscribers. It's currently at 225 when I looked just now, netting $2,685 per month.

So they need to more than double the sub count.

Charging the Patrons that funded this project again for an extra tier is arguably quite unscrupulous, but if the content's as good as it looks, I'll pony up. I get it, there's cost involved, not easy to pull off.

But, as SF is on this thread, they can correct me if I'm wrong here (I'm not) - Patrons essentially participated in a GoFundMe, and then SF turns around once the project is complete, teases the results on YouTube, and says:

"Thanks guys! Couldn't have done it without you!

By the way, f**k you all, you're not getting access to what you just funded until I reach 500 subscribers, and I am SO far away from that, haha! And if I do get there, you're going to have to pay me for a further tier as I slowly release the content and use it to tout for more subscribers. But in the meantime, please keep subscribing and supporting the site, there's 100 videos on here that you've already seen, enjoy!"


I can't imagine this is a position that can be sustained without pissing off the entire customer base.

I'm certainly not a happy camper.

The sad thing is it's a "shut up and take my money" situation.

Release this stuff and I'll be right back in line, wallet in hand.
 
But, as SF is on this thread, they can correct me if I'm wrong here (I'm not) - Patrons essentially participated in a GoFundMe, and then SF turns around once the project is complete, teases the results on YouTube, and says:
"Thanks guys! Couldn't have done it without you!

By the way, f**k you all, you're not getting access to what you just funded until I reach 500 subscribers, and I am SO far away from that, haha! And if I do get there, you're going to have to pay me for a further tier as I slowly release the content and use it to tout for more subscribers. But in the meantime, please keep subscribing and supporting the site, there's 100 videos on here that you've already seen, enjoy!"

Couldn’t have said it better. That’s a really sleazy move to have people donate and then force them to give more after it was all said and done. And then to magically think 250 more people are going to join? Ludicrous.

The second I saw that, I pulled my membership. Won’t be going back until they release the content and decide to not rip off their subscribers further. Very selfish and disingenuous of that person to do that.

Also red flags too when he won’t disclose locations and ages of people involved. Could mean trouble…
 
To be honest it feels slightly weird. First of all, I do not think it is very likely they will ever reach 500 subscribers. As for now they have 271, so perhaps 300 is reachable,maybe 350 is still realistic but anything higher seems nearly impossible. And add to it that people, who would subscribe to watch this specific content, will have to pay every mouth, not even knowing when or if this footage will be realised. This will only lead to a frustration. If they at least release few of them, so people could see if they are worth it, then maybe it will encourage other people to subscribe and eventually lead to 500 subscribers. And by the way, how are people even going to be sure that after reaching the required number of people they won't make another demand.

This leads to another problem. So far we have seen few seconds from five films. They all look to be made in the same location. What if that's all they have? I'm just saying that people are expected to subscribe and wait, without even knowing how the final product will look like.

And last point. I do not quite buy the story that the participants signed a release form. Did they tell them "Look, would you sit in the stocks so we can tickle you and record you, so later we can produce a fetish material and sell it to other people."? In that case, I don't really believe too many "real participants from the audience" would volunteer to do it. But if they skipped the part and didn't explain that this is a fetish material, then it is basically misleading them on purpose. Even if someone signs the release form allowing people to use the footage, there is still big difference between making, let's say "a documentary about torture in medieval/renaissance times" and a fetish material that's going to be sold. And if the latter is the case, this could really mean trouble.

Sorry for being pessimistic and maybe I don't understand something but this is how I feel about this stuff.
 
The 500 suscribers issue would be sketch if they raised money for that production specifically and now after managing to film it they are gonna hold out till they get what they want; but theres nothing wrong with having a target goal before they try to add NEW content on top of what they are already providing you with if it was stated before you put your money in. There incentive is they have plenty of content for you while you wait. So If you ONLY want the Renaissance content dont subscribe and let them make the move to either hold out, give in, or set up donations/alternatives to meet their goal.

Thats the LEAST sketch thing about the producer, people are just getting a lil too eager i think
 
We have around 100 different videos. Filmed at 4 different locations.

The women are compensated for their effort.

As far as patreon goals go, I trust we will reach that goal very soon.

Don’t be afraid to ask questions, or to share how you feel. It’s a freedom we all have. Thanks for your thoughts and taking time to write them.

Have a good day,
SF

did you use dogs or goats to tickle the feet? or will you use them in the future?
 
did you use dogs or goats to tickle the feet? or will you use them in the future?
pretty sure there's animal abuse laws making this not doable, which is why you don't even see it in regular fetish store clips either
 
Don’t be afraid to ask questions, or to share how you feel. It’s a freedom we all have. Thanks for your thoughts and taking time to write them.

Have a good day,
SF

I still feel there's quite a few questions that haven't been answered, but here's what I feel is the most important one, at least for me: you keep saying that the participants have been compensated, but has it been made 100%, absolutely crystal clear to them that this footage is to be sold as pornography?
 
SeekingSakura said:
has it been made 100%, absolutely crystal clear to them that this footage is to be sold as pornography?

This. It's imperative that this was made clear to the people before they participated otherwise it can be considered a form of "image based sexual abuse", which is very much illegal where I am (UK) and I imagine there are similar laws in the EU where these are filmed. It's an incredibly fine legal line to tread, selling this material, unless you have made it's eventual use abundantly clear and they've been given ample opportunity to consider it before signing the waiver.

stimulating_ref said:
Everyone who appears in the videos did sign a release form.

Would you be able to provide us with a copy of the release form you have them sign? Even if it's just a blank copy. I would feel more comfortable with considering subscribing knowing that there was some protection indemnifying you and, by extension, your audience of any legal repercussions by consenting to participate in a video that can be (and in this case, will be) used as fetish/pornographic material?
 
I must step in :

Fetish is not pornography in legal terms, and even in non legal term there is a distiction to be made between seeing a lady getting her feet tickled in public and a Gangbang, a little bit of nuance is appreciated.

Now yes, I am sure that stimulating_ref explains to the model what it implies to model for fetish content, and you have to trust him on this.

As for fearing for legal repercussion, this is just madness to reject on the consumer the eventuel malpractices of a producer. (Unless this is blatant like child stuff, but we are not in this case)

To be clear, I dont have any opinion on the project overall, but you are going very hard on these points
 
Now yes, I am sure that stimulating_ref explains to the model what it implies to model for fetish content, and you have to trust him on this.

Surely we don't *have * to do anything? I think it's perfectly fair for us to question how these videos were made, especially when it's members of the public involved, and especially, especially when the producer is acting so shady ("Donate money and we'll make renfaire videos, whoops we meant after we double our subscriber count! Sure, we'll have this model tickled- oh wait, she wants more money, maybe if you donate more haha!")

For what it's worth, every other piece of content they make is fine by me because they're clearly using models who know exactly what it is they're filming and what it will be used for. But here, in a public setting, I think it's fair to say "Hey, did this girl know when she got into these stocks that she was going to be filmed with the intention of selling a video that people will primarily use to masturbate to?" Because I personally find it hard to believe that was the case.

I'm not going to argue law because I know nothing about it, but I think ethics is good to consider as well.
 
This is why Patreon or other subscriptions method are not very good to raise money for a project, but this is another topic

As for the concern of "knowing that the girl knows", it is something that can be raised with any production that doesn't showcase only veteran fetishstars
 
kingmaker said:
As for fearing for legal repercussion, this is just madness to reject on the consumer the eventuel malpractices of a producer.

To be fair, you're probably right and I'm being a bit paranoid on the matter (it was wrong for me to say we as a viewer could be culpable) however it does worry me a little if I'm in possession of or knowingly subscribe to a service that provides fetish material under unclear pretences.

kingmaker said:
there is a distiction to be made between seeing a lady getting her feet tickled in public and a Gangbang, a little bit of nuance is appreciated.

I don't agree with this entirely. There is a distinction, yes, but not a vast one, especially not from the perspective of participant. It may not involve penetration but it is being distributed for the purpose of providing material for sexual gratification. Be it an public innocent foot tickling or a gangbang, the involved parties deserve to know that the footage is intentionally being sold to individuals who find sexual pleasure in viewing it.

kingmaker said:
you have to trust him on this.

No, you don't. When it comes to any kind of sexual material, we have every right to question the legitimacy of the consent given. If we have any reason to doubt this then we have, at the very least, a moral obligation to question it.
 
To be fair, you're probably right and I'm being a bit paranoid on the matter (it was wrong for me to say we as a viewer could be culpable) however it does worry me a little if I'm in possession of or knowingly subscribe to a service that provides fetish material under unclear pretences.



I don't agree with this entirely. There is a distinction, yes, but not a vast one, especially not from the perspective of participant. It may not involve penetration but it is being distributed for the purpose of providing material for sexual gratification. Be it an public innocent foot tickling or a gangbang, the involved parties deserve to know that the footage is intentionally being sold to individuals who find sexual pleasure in viewing it.



No, you don't. When it comes to any kind of sexual material, we have every right to question the legitimacy of the consent given. If we have any reason to doubt this then we have, at the very least, a moral obligation to question it.

I never understand people who don't understand that for many people, tickling feet is perfectly innocent. There are people out there with foot fetishes who see women's feet all the time, there are people out there with hairbrushing fetishes, belly fetishes who see women working out in middrifts, etc. There is a fetish for everything. People who have these fetishes have a bad habit of elevating the sexuality of the thing based on their own personal point of view and don't realize for most people it's a tuesday. there is a HUGE difference between a public gang bang and a public foot tickling, anyone who doesn't see how vast that different is really needs a reality check.
 
Yeah and I'm sure the market for your content is entirely people who just from complete innocence want to pay $6.99 for a 6-minute video of someone being tied up and tickled because that's what all the cool kids are watching for funsies and no other reason, when they're not too busy Tiktoking the Snapchat on Instawebnet. Their generation just loves to pay out of the goodness of their own hearts to watch things, after all.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
 
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