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Ancient tickling- 3rd. century A.D.

PunkedM/Lee

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I have a friend that’s a Mid-Eastern scholar. He says he has been
working for years preserving and interpreting ancient scrolls.
Many of the scrolls deal with mundane household accounts
and inventories but he said a certain number of the scrolls
are classified as lewd.
He says the lewd scrolls are set aside. He said that due to religious
sensitivity these scrolls are not studied other than to preserve and
number them.
They mainly touch on sexual themes or are lewd letters or writings.
“ Lewd “ meaning not appropriate for publishing the traslations.

He was telling me about one that was from an old Roman Camp at
Dura-Europos.. The Roman Cohors” XX Palmyrenorum occupied
the city.
One scroll was about registering prostitutes, in the camp, and one
particular girl named “Helvia” was a Cilician, she was tall, 5'10
or( 5'7 by modern standards), fair skinned, and of the Egyptian habit.
( he said this meant probably the straight beaded hair, eyes blackened
by khol, rouge on her lips and henna on her finger and toenails, making
them rose colored). She was registered as a “ Meretrix” (a more expensive
and better class of girl).
She was also well known for “ fellatio” and a type of coupling while
suspended from a basket.

A latter scroll, from the same time period, mentions a civil suit brought
by a “ Helvia” against another prostitute by the name of Parvaneh or
( Parvehea).
The suit mentions “ Helvia” was set upon by retainers of “ Parvaneh”.
The retainers lashed “Helvia’s” wrists to her ankles and suspended
her from a pole, in a public place.
Then , in a manner, they brushed her palms and soles with rippened
ears of “ kemmer”.
“ Helvias “ cries brought some soldiers who freed her.
She was suing for the public humiliation.
Sounds like a good old fashion tickling to me.
 
Super cool find, Lonnie. I absolutely LOVE any and all historical precedent for our particular brand of mayhem!
 
it does sound like they tickled her but suspending her from a poll like that was probably painful as well and I would be worried about her circulation being cut off too.I'm happy the soldiers heard her and freed her.
 
" Kemmer " is some kind of ancient wheat not strong enough to hurt but it has ridgid tassels, like broom straws.
 
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Hey QueenBeeBeeMari, My first question was, " was she bastinado'ed (did they beat the soles of her feet with the ripened ears of kemmer ?) The answer was " No ".
I was told if someone injured another party they could be subject to a similar punishment
(eye for an eye kind of thing). Normally to suspend someone in this fashion would have meant to lie them on their back and susped their ankles to a horizontal cross pole.
They would be immobile with the soles of their feet displayed.
Also " Kemmer " is some kind of ancient wheat not strong enough to hurt but it has ridgid tassels, like broom straws.

Wow,well,if it wasn't hurting her,I would have just left her and watched nearby lol.
 
Did it hurt ?

May I make a suggestion ?
In the interest of Historical accuracy I think the members of this forum
might try an experiment. As QueenBeeBeeMari has noted she has never
had a tickling session I say we re-enact this bit of history.
QBBM will play the part of "Helvia". I ,(clears throat) will play the part of
retainer #1, (we'll need a few more retainers). Then we'll need someone to
play the evil "Parvaneh" *note- we might have to tickle her too as punishment. Then, of course, we need a few soldiers, that start, not too close by(we don't want a sudden rescue.)
 
Oh,no,no,I can't do that,I am very sensitive because I have back problems.I can't be suspended like that and I have anxiety problems.I'm sorry I have to pass but your story was very interesting and cool
 
it does sound like they tickled her but suspending her from a poll like that was probably painful as well and I would be worried about her circulation being cut off too.I'm happy the soldiers heard her and freed her.

So am I. The pole thing sounds like torture, and not the good kind. That's one piece of history which, vital as it is to chronicling human history, I hate hearing about.

Now, certain other aspects of ancient Roman culture on the other hand...🙂
 
Silenzio. The fact that there might have been pain to be endured makes the tale all the better! The torture becomes even more fun to know about. As someone very interested in the history of we as a people, this was a gem to hear of. Grazie, Lonnie.
 
Right On !

Yes, Yes, Yes, That's it Bella Donna....It's about the tickling !
Bravo, Bravo, bellisima.
Uhm, does this also mean you'll accept the starring role in the Tickle Theatre production of "Tickling thruout History", playing the role of such greats as
Helvia, Cleopatra, Cathrine the Great and Olive Oyl...?
 
Silenzio. The fact that there might have been pain to be endured makes the tale all the better! The torture becomes even more fun to know about. As someone very interested in the history of we as a people, this was a gem to hear of. Grazie, Lonnie.

It is wonderful to hear about and I do like the story but,Bella some people are not into pain and could get easily traumatized by it.Some are just that sensitive.Especially if she was all prissy and feminine,you have to be very gentle with girls like that.An example would be Ginny from the movie Sixteen Candles
 
Signore, I would easily do my best to pull off Helvia and Cleopatra with grace befitting the roles, but I do not think anyone would believe me as a Russian. And I do not plan to lose the weight required to be Signorina Oyl. 😉
 
Thats cool

Bella Donna, I think a cutie like you could pull off any femme fatale you
desired...now about the tickling scenes...:drool
And QBBM I like prissy , feminine girls, they're usually soooo ticklish...:lol
 
"Cutie?" Haha, that is a new one... Perhaps, though, that is the key, eh? Anyone I desired, and I have little desire to attempt to be someone as thin as a twig. 😉 And while Catherine was indeed a great woman, I do not wish to lose my darker complexion just to play her part. In agreeing to these roles, however, I only wish that historical accuracy be maintained be it in costuming or in the brutality of the torture.
 
It's all set then

With your sultry good looks you'll be great....For Catherine you only have
to memorize the line, " Neyt, neyt, zat tickles".
And for Olive Oyl something along the lines of, "Help Popeye Help".
As for the tickling I have a lot of volunteers for the lers, me included...:blush

Act 1, scene 1. The pole tickle...
 
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You, know, Mari, we could at least do the experiment using kemmer on your feet. You can have your ankles tied with you laying flat if that works better for your back, and if you have anxiety about being tied, then it can be done freehand, as it were.

I humbly volunteer my services to this most noble experiment....😀

Christopher
 
You, know, Mari, we could at least do the experiment using kemmer on your feet. You can have your ankles tied with you laying flat if that works better for your back, and if you have anxiety about being tied, then it can be done freehand, as it were.

I humbly volunteer my services to this most noble experiment....😀

Christopher

I am fine with that I just can't have all that weight on my wrists and ankles.You see I have huge boobs and so,I am a fairly heavy lady so,I couldn't handle the weight.
 
Bella Donna, I think a cutie like you could pull off any femme fatale you
desired...now about the tickling scenes...:drool
And QBBM I like prissy , feminine girls, they're usually soooo ticklish...:lol

Well,I know that..I was just saying that they are very sensitive so you have to be gentle with them.Sometimes even a little flick or playful swat on the bottom can hurt them.
 
You mean the being tied with support part, or the untied part?

I'll be by soon to test the kemmer 😉

Christopher
 
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