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HOLLYWOOD

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the hollywood brother got a hypotecthical question for you all to think on and post on here. If you meet someone and really like them on a emotional level than do looks count. The hollywood brother do not mean to sound like a jabroni but the hollywood brother wonder how many people would give up love if the person they are falling for is fat or ugly?

The hollywood brother would hope that he would not care about looks but what about everyone else here?
 
Unless we're talking about truly extreme cases of mutation or deformity then no, looks don't really matter. The way a person carries him/herself goes a much longer way toward making someone attractive than the features they happen to have been born with.
That's not to say I don't recognize that some people are just more physically attractive than others. (but then that's also subjective. What I find attractive someone else may not) But I'd never discount the idea of friendship/relationship with someone based on their looks.
 
nessonite said:
The way a person carries him/herself goes a much longer way toward making someone attractive than the features they happen to have been born with.

You are right on that Nessie.

I have to say, when I was heavier, I was constantly down on myself, and had no confidence. No one would even look at me.

When I started to lose weight, I looked people in the eye, and became bolder, more outspoken.

Women started to hit on me. That's never happened before, and I still have about 40lbs to lose, so it's not like I'm in tip top shape now. So that's a start. Now, if I could just get the men to notice. lmao

what always kills me is when I look at online personals, and see someone who says "A great smile is what turns me on" and that person has a busted up set of teeth. Or the guy says "I want someone who is slender or athletic, and they are 300 pounds or better.

Don't expect someone to be a certain way, if you are not willing to be that way too.
 
HOLLYWOODBROTHE said:
the hollywood brother got a hypotecthical question for you all to think on and post on here. If you meet someone and really like them on a emotional level than do looks count. The hollywood brother do not mean to sound like a jabroni but the hollywood brother wonder how many people would give up love if the person they are falling for is fat or ugly?

The hollywood brother would hope that he would not care about looks but what about everyone else here?


Interesting question HB. I think that looks don't matter, it is personality (in my mind). Relationships shouldn't revolve around what the look is of someone in that relationship. Just my 2 cents worth. Looks don't matter.
 
If you really like a person on an emotional level and "click" with them, then they do not appear ugly to you so no, looks do not matter....
 
Dade's pinned it: if they go "click", you probably won't notice minor things.
Chemistry is funny, anyway.

Counter-question to the Hollywood Brother from the Italian Cousin: are you going through some kind of related dilemma?
 
I believe it was plato or socrates who said this but
"Attraction is physical first, everything else comes later"

Id like to believe against this but my track record and current standing kinda proves his phrase :-\
 
goodieluver said:
I believe it was plato or socrates who said this but
"Attraction is physical first, everything else comes later"

Id like to believe against this but my track record and current standing kinda proves his phrase :-\

Unfortunatly, I agree with goodie.....(I say unfortunatly, because things shouldn't be that way)

But I would also like to point something out, when you are attracted someone on an emotional level, you usually start to also find them more physically attractive; and it also works the other way around, I have met a few very goodlooking girls, but they are sooooo annoying that now I don't even think they are pretty anymore... just a thought...
 
In my own experience, I need to be physically attracted to the person. I've met a couple great girls in my short time in existance, sadly even with a deeper emotional connection, nothing could ever come out of it. To each their own I suppose, to some looks can be everything, to others, the physical can simply be a side-effect of living.
 
janus4385 said:
Unfortunatly, I agree with goodie.....(I say unfortunatly, because things shouldn't be that way)

But I would also like to point something out, when you are attracted someone on an emotional level, you usually start to also find them more physically attractive; and it also works the other way around, I have met a few very goodlooking girls, but they are sooooo annoying that now I don't even think they are pretty anymore... just a thought...


Yes but in my track record, u need to have some look to u to allow the girl to want to get to know u on that emotional level

Now i know dozens of people who are the type where they can go to a party, see a girl, hit on her, get her number and like be able to go on a date with her the next week. Now for me, the concept of shyness and caution i cant do this, i need to get to know the person first before i claim "hey i fancy u" but as ive learned, the gals dont like to date friends, heh
 
Yes but in my track record, u need to have some look to u to allow the girl to want to get to know u on that emotional level

Now i know dozens of people who are the type where they can go to a party, see a girl, hit on her, get her number and like be able to go on a date with her the next week. Now for me, the concept of shyness and caution i cant do this, i need to get to know the person first before i claim "hey i fancy u" but as ive learned, the gals dont like to date friends, heh

More proof I'm abnormal. First, I'd probably only be interested in a relationship with someone I've been friends with first. I can't see myself thinking "Oh hey I just met you but Hell yeah! Date!"
And since good looks don't really matter when your with someone as a friend ipso facto etc etc...
 
Beauty Is Only Skin Deep, Ugly Goes To The Bone.....

*don't The Girls All Get Prettier At Closing Time?* I Wasted Time And Thumbed My Nose At Evolution Many Years Ago By Being Shallow And Caring Too Much About A Girl's Appearance. I Was A Poster Dweeb For "she's Out Of Your League", Dude. As The Years Progressed, So Did Gt. Now I See All Aspects Of The Person Are Critical To A Successful Relationship. Going For Looks Alone Are Like Going For Money, You Will Earn Every Penny. A Genuine Soulmate/solemate Is The Most Beautiful Person In The Room, Especially That Room Called Your Heart. Speaking Of Looks, If She Has About 20/200 Vision, That Usually Woks In Gt's Favor! 🙂
 
Its impossible for emotional connections to be made and saught after if theres no physical attraction or anything appealing about them to begin with (unless its a spiritual connection which draws you to them or them to you, though such attractions are not necessarily for relationship purposes, you may be fated to help someone and that feeling is a sign). People are not attracted to people whom they do not find attractive somehow. Whatever sparks your curiousity at first will almost always be a physical trait of some kind with the rest following afterwards. And this isn't a bad thing, its nature and its how it works.

Aside from the psychical, purely as a means to an ends in approaching someone and inquiring more about them, physical attractivenes is important to an extent. For example, someone who is overweight by choice and its not a glandular problem, thyroid disorder, etc. could imply they are weak-willed, lazy, irresponsible and wreckless with themselves and how they handle life and their priorities and can't commit to bettering themselves. And this could stem from a low-self esteem or bad thought patterns, mental blockage and any other negative quality they may have or how they live their life. Another example- someone who has bad acne/acne scars and, again, its not a problem they cannot help (or could have helped), like with the weight. Same is true for oral hygiene and indeed any form of self-care. Self-neglect and abandonment is a huge turn-off. If you can't love you, why should anyone else?

If physical appearances reveal to you, quite obviously, that this person is not committed to keeping themself in shape or in good health or that they simply do not care then they are not as desirable physically AND emotionally because they appear beaten, broken, defeated or simply indifferent. Theres nothing desirable about that, save for the pity you may have for them. Sometimes relationships are started on such feelings and the people learn to love themselves through the love being shown to them.

In actuality, physical appearance can tell a tale about a person without a word being spoken. So it is indeed very important in many respects.

However, I do agree that emotional connections, mutual compatibility and also spiritual connections are far more important than good looks, not that they are better qualities, but in that they are the elements of a relationship that will both keep it afloat, sustain it, make it livable and enjoyable, and it is the soul, the person not their body which ultimately makes the relationship what it is.
 
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I have "met" quite a few women from our little on line communities. I was attracted to them by their wit, intelligence in posting ,and
in their sense of humor.

If we had met in person before getting to know one another on line, we probably would not have thought much of one another.

I met my wife of seven years this way. We would have passed each other on the street and never looked back had we not made an emotional connection first.

I find her to be one of the most beautiful women I have ever known.

Physical attributes can get in the way of the best relationships if you allow them to. I have learned not to judge by superficial physical attributes and find beauty in places i never would have imagined.
 
I don't have any pre-set notions of physical attractiveness. As long as a person is clean, reasonably neat, and free of gross deformity, I could be satisfied with many different physical types provided that there is a strong spiritual/emotional connection between us 🙂
 
the hollywood brother likes the he got people thinking. the hollywood brother is not in this situation but the hollywood brother kows a dude at work that really likes this girl alot and they connect but she is very heavy. This guy keeps bitching to the hollywood brother that he do not know what to do because he is worried that if he goes out with her he may also be looking at smaller ladies that walk by.

The hollywood brother do have to agree that once you love someone they lok great to you no matter what
 
HOLLYWOODBROTHE said:
the hollywood brother likes the he got people thinking. the hollywood brother is not in this situation but the hollywood brother kows a dude at work that really likes this girl alot and they connect but she is very heavy. This guy keeps bitching to the hollywood brother that he do not know what to do because he is worried that if he goes out with her he may also be looking at smaller ladies that walk by.

The hollywood brother do have to agree that once you love someone they lok great to you no matter what
Brother, tell your friend that even if he goes out with Helen of Troy or Venus herself, he's still going to find himself checking out other chicks. She'll be noticing other men. It's human nature. It doesn't mean you're on the prowl or planning to cheat on your sweetie. It just means you still have eyes in your head and blood in your veins. The prospect of it shouldn't deter him from connecting with the woman he's interested in.
I suspect if you strapped a polygraph to your friend, you'd find out he's more worried about what others will say when they see him with this gal. That's also human but childish in the extreme. He may need one of your patented Hollywood Brother pep talks to get over this. If anyone can set him straight, though, it's you. You seem to have enough heart and soul for any three ordinary mortals.
 
These last few posts remind me of a story:
"I went out, looking for the perfect woman. When I finally found her, she rejected me.
I wasn't the perfect man."
 
Sad but true I'm afraid looks do count, atleast in most cases. No, it isn't right and is a very shallow way of thinking but, then this is a shallow world for the most part. I would blaim the filming and entertainment industry but, this way of thinking has been around since the dawn of time. However I have witnessed some instances in which a not so attractive person can be seen with a mate who is a knockout. That right there tells me that love really is blind or there is clearly something else involved. So, yes there is hope but, unfortunately it is somewhat slim unless you decide to follow the crowd and turn your body in to some kind of ornament that will deteriorate much quicker than normal.
 
"I went out, looking for the perfect woman. When I finally found her, she rejected me.
I wasn't the perfect man."

I really like that quote, K lol
 
goodieluver said:
Yes but in my track record, u need to have some look to u to allow the girl to want to get to know u on that emotional level

It`s not looks that count goodie... IT'S MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, just a joke......

goodieluver said:
Now i know dozens of people who are the type where they can go to a party, see a girl, hit on her, get her number and like be able to go on a date with her the next week. Now for me, the concept of shyness and caution i cant do this, i need to get to know the person first before i claim "hey i fancy u" but as ive learned, the gals dont like to date friends, heh

Maybe you should ask your friends for some pointers then :cyclopes: ... I'm pretty shy myself(around girls I might like), so I do understand what you are saying, but sometimes you have to loosen up a little, if you don't, then you really are doomed...
 
nessonite said:
I really like that quote, K lol

It's a bit like me too. I never seem to like the same way I am liked back. 😉
 
janus4385 said:
It`s not looks that count goodie... IT'S MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, just a joke......



Maybe you should ask your friends for some pointers then :cyclopes: ... I'm pretty shy myself(around girls I might like), so I do understand what you are saying, but sometimes you have to loosen up a little, if you don't, then you really are doomed...


Heh, the guy friends dont really help since guys are like vicious pack animals and its every man for himself.

Heh and the advise is like what u said, loosen up and such, hard to do tho
 
the hollywood brother was talking with his friend today to get more dope and to help his candy ass out. anyway it turns out that my friend met her on a online chat thing. he liked her alot but when he saw a picture of her, he was not as sure. For the hollywood brother love is what is important. Lets face it not everyone is going to connect with a cindy crawford or camel26 or any of the great ladies of this forum but that should not stop someone from being in love. Today the hollywood brother laid some smack on his friend and told him to shut the f up about the appearance not being hot and just go for it. One thing the hollywood brother realizes is that when you finally fall in love, then that person is the world to you no matter what and that is the bottom line because the hollywood brother said so!
 
Looks can be adjusted a bit, to meet one's expectations.
I am not advocating shallow relationships based on outer aspect only, but love can't work smoothly if that magical chemistry thing doesn't click in.

Advising a friends against prejudice can be good. Forcing him against his will doesn't seem something I'd be likely to do.

But I have few friends, and I rarely force my opinion down their throat.
Having them crawl back to pieces, telling me I was right in the first place is much more satisfying.

😉
 
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