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Are paid tickle sessions legal?

dolinater

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I've contacted quite a few of those female bodybuilder/fitness girls who offer wrestling sessions along with other types of fetish sessions, and surprisingly many of them seem open to being tied and tickled.

My only concern is whether or not its legal. I don't want anything but tickling from the session, but I don't know what the laws consider to be prostitution. Can anyone chime in and help me out? I know laws vary from state to state.
 
Ask A Lawyer but heres my 2 Cents

I've contacted quite a few of those female bodybuilder/fitness girls who offer wrestling sessions along with other types of fetish sessions, and surprisingly many of them seem open to being tied and tickled.

My only concern is whether or not its legal. I don't want anything but tickling from the session, but I don't know what the laws consider to be prostitution. Can anyone chime in and help me out? I know laws vary from state to state.

Technically it can be yes and no at the same time depending on a variety of factors. Is bondage legal in your community? How about Escorts? if there are no sexual favors is it prostitution probably not but a prick cop could get you for soliciting.

We offer sessions in studio and my lawyer said they have to be filmed and treated like regular models to cover your ass. He also told me 1/2 a mile away from our location is a small community that has strict laws covering basically pay for play scenarios. Now what are the actual odds 1 person hiring bodybuilders for tickling sessions will actually get busted? (do your neighbors like you?) More importantly how would one prosecute that?
 
Technically it can be yes and no at the same time depending on a variety of factors. Is bondage legal in your community? How about Escorts? if there are no sexual favors is it prostitution probably not but a prick cop could get you for soliciting.

We offer sessions in studio and my lawyer said they have to be filmed and treated like regular models to cover your ass. He also told me 1/2 a mile away from our location is a small community that has strict laws covering basically pay for play scenarios. Now what are the actual odds 1 person hiring bodybuilders for tickling sessions will actually get busted? (do your neighbors like you?) More importantly how would one prosecute that?

thanks for the response. It wouldnt be at home, it would be at a hotel or some place theyre staying at. The odds of being caught? I'm not sure. I read that they actively monitor all the women who knowling offer wrestling sessions, so im assuming they read email conversations.

And I guess it also comes down to whether or not the law considers tickling to be sexual conduct, since the definition is paying a charge in return for sexual conduct.
 
In New York State, paying money for any activity that is sexually arousing is illegal. So if a one-armed woman reading the poems of Emily Dickinson gives you an erection, then paying a one-armed woman to read those poems is illegal for you here.

I am totally opposed to all such laws; I think consenting adults should be able to engage in prostitution. I'm just explaining what the law is here.
 
In New York State, paying money for any activity that is sexually arousing is illegal. So if a one-armed woman reading the poems of Emily Dickinson gives you an erection, then paying a one-armed woman to read those poems is illegal for you here.

I am totally opposed to all such laws; I think consenting adults should be able to engage in prostitution. I'm just explaining what the law is here.

thank you VERY much milagros. Im not in NY, but I can only assume that its the same thing here.

Although I dont know how theyd prove that its arousing, I'm not gonna take the chance. Sucks big time. But thanks for preventing me from doing I might have ended up regretting big time.
 
thank you VERY much milagros. Im not in NY, but I can only assume that its the same thing here.

There are 50 different sets of laws in the 50 states so you would be better off consulting a lawyer in your own state.
 
Curious....how do all the tickle video producers (Tommy at Tickle Abuse, Toefu, Darth Sidious, Tickle Haven, etc.) get away with it?

I mean, they have to pay taxes.....

So someone's going to know something......
 
you know, that is a good question, there are porn producers here in California... but prostitution is illegal... but it's kinda the same thing a little (I bring that up because someone mentioned tickle producers getting away with it) But although I would never do it, I think tat prostitution should be legal. If someone wants to pay for sex, why should a law prevent it?

My suggestion to you is to get to know them as friends and then tickle torture them for free 😛
 
Curious....how do all the tickle video producers (Tommy at Tickle Abuse, Toefu, Darth Sidious, Tickle Haven, etc.) get away with it?

I mean, they have to pay taxes.....

So someone's going to know something......
that's because theyre professional models being filmed
Maybe as long as its just tickling...but who knows lol
lol you would think, but apparently what is considered to be "sexual conduct" varies from state to state
I would not want to go to court over tickling!!!!
haha me neither. Id have to kill myself from embarassment
you know, that is a good question, there are porn producers here in California... but prostitution is illegal... but it's kinda the same thing a little (I bring that up because someone mentioned tickle producers getting away with it) But although I would never do it, I think tat prostitution should be legal. If someone wants to pay for sex, why should a law prevent it?

My suggestion to you is to get to know them as friends and then tickle torture them for free 😛

i wish, easier said than done befriending fitness women 25-50 yrs old that travel around the country
 
you know, that is a good question, there are porn producers here in California... but prostitution is illegal... but it's kinda the same thing a little (I bring that up because someone mentioned tickle producers getting away with it) But although I would never do it, I think tat prostitution should be legal. If someone wants to pay for sex, why should a law prevent it?

My suggestion to you is to get to know them as friends and then tickle torture them for free 😛

the law may not view tickling as sex that may be one way to get away with it but I DO NOT KNOW if it is!!!.
 
Good question. I personally see nothing wrong with it, but as milagros pointed out, different states have different laws.
 
I don't even live in the US, but I've had a few tickle sessions there. There are S&M dungeons which openly operate and dommes who work in them who openly advertise. Have a look on Max Fisch and see what goes on in them. I remember reading an account of one man who had his penis cut with a knife by one domme. I think that whatever the laws, I don't think anyone will have the time to try and prosecute you for being tickled. I'd pay, play and enjoy yourself. I did and don't regret a second of it!
Just my opinion!
 
This is one that falls into 'your locality has its own rules' but in general it falls into 'Touch services' laws. Like Massage.

If a guy gets hard while getting a professional massage, it's not a crime on either side. If the person giving the massage does something about said hard-on then the law is broken and all bets are off.

Tickling would fall into this class in *most* locations. It would be seen as just some form of exotic massage, but as the general public does not see tickling as an overt sex act that is designed to arouse the average person there would be no legal foul.

Myriads
 
This is one that falls into 'your locality has its own rules' but in general it falls into 'Touch services' laws. Like Massage.

If a guy gets hard while getting a professional massage, it's not a crime on either side. If the person giving the massage does something about said hard-on then the law is broken and all bets are off.

Tickling would fall into this class in *most* locations. It would be seen as just some form of exotic massage, but as the general public does not see tickling as an overt sex act that is designed to arouse the average person there would be no legal foul.

Myriads

To echo this, I know a Thai massage place in London that is totally above board (I know some people see 'Thai massage' and think this means the same as 'happy ending' but this isn't so at this place). However, the ladies will quite happily tickle you or use 'feather touch' if you ask them. I had a four hands or rather 'twenty fingers' massage there not so long ago. 🙂 I'm not writing this from jail.
 
I'm not writing this from jail.

Uh...London as in London, capital of England? To my knowledge, even prostitution is legal in England, or did that chance recently? So why would any other kind of sexual service be illegal?
 
^ while the act of prostitution is technically legal in the U.k almost everything that goes with it is illegal, Soliciting ,running a brothel kerbcrawling, breaking health and safety regs ,etc so while you wont be prosecuted for the act itself you may be for the means you got it. Never heard of anybody done for any tickle related activity though.
 
This is one that falls into 'your locality has its own rules' but in general it falls into 'Touch services' laws. Like Massage.

If a guy gets hard while getting a professional massage, it's not a crime on either side. If the person giving the massage does something about said hard-on then the law is broken and all bets are off.

Tickling would fall into this class in *most* locations. It would be seen as just some form of exotic massage, but as the general public does not see tickling as an overt sex act that is designed to arouse the average person there would be no legal foul.

Myriads

thanks for the info

where would one find these locality rules and touch services laws? I've looked online but I cant find anything. Its for boston by the way
 
Unless you are married, in a permanent relationship, or are too old to find someone attractive, and thus can't get satisfaction in any other way, your best bet is to learn to get it free to yours and the girl's mutual satisfaction by getting out into the world and interacting with real live females rather than copping out and buying it or looking at pictures and videos of it. I'm not being judgmental, but there's no info about you in your profile, and all of your posts seem to be comments about pictures or videos.

Here's a list of most of the New England BDSM sites. Why don't you prove the reality of 'Buy a man a fish and he'll have dinner, teach him to fish and he'll be fed for life' by just getting out there?

http://domsubfriends.com/cgi-local/wwwdir/db.cgi?db=org&uid=default&state=MASSACHUSETTS&view_records=View+Records&ww=on
 
Unless you are married, in a permanent relationship, or are too old to find someone attractive, and thus can't get satisfaction in any other way, your best bet is to learn to get it free to yours and the girl's mutual satisfaction by getting out into the world and interacting with real live females rather than copping out and buying it or looking at pictures and videos of it. I'm not being judgmental, but there's no info about you in your profile, and all of your posts seem to be comments about pictures or videos.

Here's a list of most of the New England BDSM sites. Why don't you prove the reality of 'Buy a man a fish and he'll have dinner, teach him to fish and he'll be fed for life' by just getting out there?

http://domsubfriends.com/cgi-local/wwwdir/db.cgi?db=org&uid=default&state=MASSACHUSETTS&view_records=View+Records&ww=on

Im fine in the real world, plenty of vanilla play

I just have a thing for 30+ yr old personal trainers




I also found this, http://www.mass.gov/courts/courtsan...riminal/pdf/7480-sexual-conduct-for-a-fee.pdf

does this mean massachusetts is in the clear?
 
while the act of prostitution is technically legal in the U.k almost everything that goes with it is illegal, Soliciting ,running a brothel kerbcrawling, breaking health and safety regs ,etc

Well, for good reason though! 🙂 All that is done to protect the girls who work as prostitutes. It's the same in Germany, still prostitution works fine.
 
Uh...London as in London, capital of England? To my knowledge, even prostitution is legal in England, or did that chance recently? So why would any other kind of sexual service be illegal?

I did not know this (the prostitution being legal thing, I was pretty sure about the London being the capital of England thing).

But back to the original question ...
Back in 2008, a New York dungeon got closed down called Rebecca's Hidden Chamber. It was closed down because some of the girls allegedly said they were up for strap on play. This was the only reason it was shut down, none of the other activities going on there were being looked into. It's back up and running now (I've been!).
So just go and have some tickle fun. In the world of fetish, ticklephiles are the shandy drinkers in the world of alcoholics. 🙂
 
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