At times music is metaphorically dead...

[Bohemianne]

Has it something to do when creative people do it out of money, or simply a by-product of poor taste?

In a musical journey, at times music die and at times they simply come alive, but that is purely mental and personal judgment, I suppose. This sounds vague...argh!

Discuss/Share your opinion. Thanks.

 

[MrMacphisto]

Talent seems rare on the radio mostly because the business of music has become so soulless.

Radio programmers are both lazy and greedy these days. Recording studios worry more about piracy than about actually finding and nurturing a band into something worth listening to over the ages.

It's basically about the money and nothing else now. To find music that isn't dead, you have to search your local music scene and the internet.

 

[dskodj]

1940 - 1980 : Productions in music are very complex, full orchestras, brass, drums/percussion, complex guitar compositions in rock as the 60s came in, vocalists that could sing and image ment nothing.

1980 - 1984 : Budgets were getting cut, the orchestra went home, real drum and percussion playing was being replaced by drum machines and keyboards on nearly all genres of music but rock.

1984 - 1990 : Image and visual art began being more important than musical and vocal talent, almost everything was electronics due to budget dropping and the public masses loving this el cheapo sound. Rock music was still hangin in there, but begining to become cookie cutter and more basic as the decade was coming to a close (in mainstream that is).

1990 - 1993 : Guitar solos in rock music became extinct, production costs were way down in other genres, the sampler all of a sudden becomes a musical instrument, gangsta rap and fake punk music becomes the pop music of the time.

1994 - Present: Music has passed away

The End

 

[Perduabo]

I think Homer Simpson said it best.

"Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, its a scientific fact!"

For me, the late 50's through the late 80's hold the best musical memories.

It is a sad day indeed when the legendary Michael Jackson's career is compared to 'Lil Wayne or little cheese whiz or whatever that kid's name is now.

 

[MrMacphisto]

1984 - 1990 : Image and visual art began being more important than musical and vocal talent, almost everything was electronics due to budget dropping and the public masses loving this el cheapo sound. Rock music was still hangin in there, but begining to become cookie cutter and more basic as the decade was coming to a close (in mainstream that is).

I don't know about that. U2 produced some of the best albums ever in that period. Bruce Springsteen did as well. They weren't the only exceptions either. Genesis released a really good album (Invisible Touch), Peter Gabriel (sans Genesis) also did some amazing stuff. Dire Straits was great. Too many to name, really.

1990 - 1993 : Guitar solos in rock music became extinct, production costs were way down in other genres, the sampler all of a sudden becomes a musical instrument, gangsta rap and fake punk music becomes the pop music of the time.

1994 - Present: Music has passed away

The End

The early 90s produced some excellent grunge music. It was basically a resurgence of guitar rock, and way better than that hair band shit.

Even after Cobain's death, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Alice in Chains stuck around (at least for a little while, in the cases of Soundgarden and Alice in Chains).

I'd put the death of mainstream music at around 2001, actually.

Still, good music is still coming out. You just have to look harder for it.

 

[Mephistopheles]

Mainstream music died in 1979.

 

[sasaxrah]

This is why I listen to indie music. Much of it isn't a formula. I value originality and innovation in today's music, and I find it in bands that are not on mainstream radio stations.

 

[dskodj]

I don't know about that. U2 produced some of the best albums ever in that period. Bruce Springsteen did as well. They weren't the only exceptions either. Genesis released a really good album (Invisible Touch), Peter Gabriel (sans Genesis) also did some amazing stuff. Dire Straits was great. Too many to name, really..

I agree 100% with ya. I have all those albums your talkin bout (not to mention im a die hard PG fan and a reg fan of classic Genesis). Those were between 1986 - 1988. Some great stuff comin out then in the rock side of things..but it was getting less and less.

When the early 90s grunge stuff came, I couldnt get into that stuff and didnt like it. Thats when I totaly gave up. But ill take the early grunge back any day over gangsta rap and whats passing for rock and r&b today.

 

[dskodj]

This is why I listen to indie music. Much of it isn't a formula. I value originality and innovation in today's music, and I find it in bands that are not on mainstream radio stations.

being involved with indie music myself, i highly apreciate that comment 🙂

 

[Dussicar]

It is a sad day indeed when the legendary Michael Jackson's career is compared to 'Lil Wayne or little cheese whiz or whatever that kid's name is now.

Exactly. That pretty much sums up the denigration of human condition in direct correlation to the music industry's attempt to make as much money as they possibly can, milking the lowest common denominator.


DISCLAIMER:The above comment may have little impact, as it was typed by an individual who has defended the likes of Brian Johnson and Avril Levine.

In all seriousness, though, there is definately money to be made in sensationalism...

Perduabo, you hit the nail right on the head.

 

[dskodj]

DISCLAIMER:The above comment may have little impact, as it was typed by an individual who has defended the likes of Brian Johnson and Avril Levine.{/QUOTE]

hey there aint notta wrong with brian johnson..but he aint no bon scott

 

[dskodj]

I think Homer Simpson said it best.

"Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, its a scientific fact!"

For me, the late 50's through the late 80's hold the best musical memories.

It is a sad day indeed when the legendary Michael Jackson's career is compared to 'Lil Wayne or little cheese whiz or whatever that kid's name is now.

couldnt have said it better myself

 

[ticklishmikey]

My take on the situation....

You are all correct. But I think you missed one important point. Or someone posted it, and I missed it. Lol. One of the two. Lol

I don't think music is dead. There's still a lot of good music out there. You just don't hear it as much. A big problem is that creativity and originality have become severely outdated. And I'm not just talking about mainstream hip hop, I'm talking about all genres, although hip hop is a prime example. Basically if the song doesn't sound a certain way, have a certain tempo, you're not singing about a certain thing. It gets no play. Why? Money. The short answer. Long answer. The internet. When we started downloading music. Album sales went way down. Adults rarely buy albums nowadays. It's so much easier for us just to download the songs we like via iTunes, Rhapsody or *cough* Limewire *cough*. Yeah they still make money, but not as much as they would with selling an album. So if all adults are downloading music (well not all, but most of us) what kind of audience does the music industry target? Kids. Teenagers. The younger population. Think about it. Most kids generally aren't allowed on the internet up until a certain age. So they can't dl music. They hear something they like on the radio they like. Mom and Dad gotta go out and buy that album. Cuz more than likely the kid ain't going to settle for a CD-RW with Hannah Montana written across the top in Sharpee. And what do kids like? Repetition. Because that's what they deal with most of they're life in school and at home. That's why it's difficult to tell one artist from another, or to be able to tell when one song ends and the other begins unless the DJ on the radio announces the change. Even the lyrics. You get 20-30 artists talking about the same thing. 90% of the time they ain't even listening to the lyrics. I'm not saying kids are stupid or anything. But they're minds aren't fully developed yet. They're still in this roll model stage "I wanna be like him." "I wanna be like her." So it's cool when other people do it. Not so much for adults. Usually because we're the ones repeating ourselves. Especially parents. So we hate repetition. Lol. I mean look. Stars are getting younger and younger. That's another thing. The younger the star, the more they can appeal to what the kids want to hear.

So yes. I'm blaming the internet and us. But I'm not trying to knock anyone if that makes any sense. I can't knock the music industry cuz, hey, you gotta make money so they can keep making music. I'm knocking on us adults who dL music, because it's just easier and more convenient for us. So I guess it's just one of those things. Personally. I just stick with old music. I mean, nothing's better than a classic. Just my take on the situation.

 

[ticklishmikey]

I think Homer Simpson said it best.

"Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, its a scientific fact!"

For me, the late 50's through the late 80's hold the best musical memories.

It is a sad day indeed when the legendary Michael Jackson's career is compared to 'Lil Wayne or little cheese whiz or whatever that kid's name is now.

LIL Cheez WIZ! LOL That is hilarious. I feel you though. I remember when that fad started. I was so mad because every one wanted to have Lil in they're name. Lil this, lil that. There were so many dang Lils that I was expecting to walk into a rap concert and find a bunch of midgets!

 

[tequila!]

1940 - 1980 : Productions in music are very complex, full orchestras, brass, drums/percussion, complex guitar compositions in rock as the 60s came in, vocalists that could sing and image ment nothing.

1980 - 1984 : Budgets were getting cut, the orchestra went home, real drum and percussion playing was being replaced by drum machines and keyboards on nearly all genres of music but rock.

1984 - 1990 : Image and visual art began being more important than musical and vocal talent, almost everything was electronics due to budget dropping and the public masses loving this el cheapo sound. Rock music was still hangin in there, but begining to become cookie cutter and more basic as the decade was coming to a close (in mainstream that is).

1990 - 1993 : Guitar solos in rock music became extinct, production costs were way down in other genres, the sampler all of a sudden becomes a musical instrument, gangsta rap and fake punk music becomes the pop music of the time.

1994 - Present: Music has passed away

The End

You can't listen to bands like Arcade Fire, Dear Hunter, or Sigur Ros without saying that there's no "complexity" in new music anymore. You don't have to go and look to indie or local bands to find these, it's just that they're not in the top 10 chart.

Also, why does there have to always be complexity? Who says that one man and his guitar (not to be confused with 1man1guitar. Don't google that, i'm not responsible for whatever comes up) can't make good music? Some bands are successful due to their talent as musicians, and some some thrive on the lyrics/singing voice alone.

We didn't judge the older generations based on Surfin Bird and Stayin Alive. Please don't judge us on Jonas Brothers and Who Let the Dogs out.

 

[dskodj]

You can't listen to bands like Arcade Fire, Dear Hunter, or Sigur Ros without saying that there's no "complexity" in new music anymore. You don't have to go and look to indie or local bands to find these, it's just that they're not in the top 10 chart.

Also, why does there have to always be complexity? Who says that one man and his guitar (not to be confused with 1man1guitar. Don't google that, i'm not responsible for whatever comes up) can't make good music? Some bands are successful due to their talent as musicians, and some some thrive on the lyrics/singing voice alone.

We didn't judge the older generations based on Surfin Bird and Stayin Alive. Please don't judge us on Jonas Brothers and Who Let the Dogs out.

hell ill take "who let the dogs out" back over any of the mainstream crap today! lol

 

[starburstz91]

I do believe that a song that somebody writes comes from heart and from pure emotions. It's just like a story; they're telling it, epressing it in a different manner, and I believe those are the best songs ever sung.

However, nowadays, music is just written for popularity or to have a certain "respect". I mean, I do find catchy songs that may absolutely mean nothing and I do strive for the beat, but the ones that touch you are the ones with those understanding lyrics.

Soo, basically, if you find a good song, keep it. There might not be many of them left in the next few centuries.

 

[sean901]

There is, and always will be a lot of good music out there, you've just gotta look further than mtv or the radio for it.

 

[xionking]

1940 - 1980 : Productions in music are very complex, full orchestras, brass, drums/percussion, complex guitar compositions in rock as the 60s came in, vocalists that could sing and image ment nothing.

1980 - 1984 : Budgets were getting cut, the orchestra went home, real drum and percussion playing was being replaced by drum machines and keyboards on nearly all genres of music but rock.

1984 - 1990 : Image and visual art began being more important than musical and vocal talent, almost everything was electronics due to budget dropping and the public masses loving this el cheapo sound. Rock music was still hangin in there, but begining to become cookie cutter and more basic as the decade was coming to a close (in mainstream that is).

1990 - 1993 : Guitar solos in rock music became extinct, production costs were way down in other genres, the sampler all of a sudden becomes a musical instrument, gangsta rap and fake punk music becomes the pop music of the time.

1994 - Present: Music has passed away

The End

You could not be more wrong, my friend. Music has not passed away at all. It is you and your many missed opportunities to emmerse yourself in a versitility of music that has passed away.

I am deeply saddened by your very poor, and very close-minded view of music.

Aubrey, you are absolutely gorjuzz. And anybody who thinks they "know music" should just listen to what you have to say. Appreciate music for what it is!!

-Xionking

 

[Bohemianne]

Thank you for the great response, folks.

Of course music evolve.

There are musicians who made it through beyond modern day destruction (TV, etc). Mastery is the name of the game.