Bondage cage

[tickledgirl]

I came across this bondage device. I'm not quite sure how to describe it. It's kinda like a form-fitting cage. It looks like it'd be about as close to complete immobility as is possible.

Definitely not for the claustrophobic! It does look like it'd be pretty safe though. And the openings between the bars look easily big enough to admit fingers or other tickling devices...

The idea of being tickled in such a device is right along the border between terrifying in an exciting way and terrifying in a "No way, beyond my limits" kinda way. (Complete immobility, through in a good dollop of claustrophobia...and then add tickling. )

What do you think?

http://www.permanentbondage.com/SittingCage/index.htm (The link is somewhat work-safe. No nudity anyway, although the subject matter is obviously dicey.)

 

[Diego]

Wow! its extreme!

 

[Azrael]

While I do find it appealing, from a Dom's perspective, it strikes me as being unsafe... from the same viewpoint. I note from the pictures provided in the example that the cage is secured shut via screws, drilled with a power drill (itself not necessary, I realize). If a person were to suddenly panic while in one of these devices, having to unscrew even a single screw to get them out seems to invite a terrifying degree of possibility of bodily harm and lasting mental / emotional trauma.

I could be wrong; I'm not the most experienced with extreme devices. I do note, however, that given the considerable degree of obstruction provided by the cage itself, it probably wouldn't add much to my own sessions. If I have a 'lee on a bondage table, strapped in thoroughly, she's not going anywhere, and the way I do toe ties there's a single tie at the end which can be untied rapidly or, if necessary, cut. I prefer using velcro-based restraints, myself.

Someone who's more into bondage for its own sake, rather than the convenience it provides, might have a different take on the matter than I.

 

[djhalo07]

Ummm Yeah...

I would definitely have to say that that device is a little much. I mean I'm one for immobilizing someone while tickling them... but like Azrael said that has too much potential to cause serious emotional/ mental trauma. But to each his own. Someone might actually enjoy using that. I would prefer to use either ropes, handcuffs, the X frame... table or whatever... Keeps it simple and still as effective...

 

[maniactickler]

It looks pretty stupid to me.

 

[Azrael]

Y'know, maniac, you're starting to grow on me. No matter what the subject matter, you can be counted on to give an absolutely 100% honest take regarding your opinion, no couching or "softening the blow" or any such thing. From someone who has a lot of trouble figuring out what people really mean, in the face of what they actually say... or don't say... it's really, really appreciated.

(I'm not sure if it's clear or not, but that is a compliment)

Anyhow, back onto the rails...

Another thing to keep in mind is that, unless there is some truly ingenious cage-resizing method, this thing is only going to be form-fitting for one form on Earth... whoever it was that they formed it to as a model in the first place. Most people are going to have a little bit of wiggle room. This is a bad thing for multiple reasons: the cagee can hurt themselves, it makes a panic attack <I>far</I> more likely if you can move a little but are suddenly stopped before the "intended movement" is completed (it's similar to a claustrophobia response, and differs from straps or cuffs in that there are no direct restraints, it's your space itself that's limited; it's a far more helpless situation), and it makes tickling or other stimulation more challenging.

 

[manic971]

na I don't like that thing at all...its too extreme and too hard to get someone in and out of. Besides all those wire bars leave little room for fingers and other tickling tools to get in ;-)

 

[tickledgirl]

Y'know, maniac, you're starting to grow on me. No matter what the subject matter, you can be counted on to give an absolutely 100% honest take regarding your opinion, no couching or "softening the blow" or any such thing. From someone who has a lot of trouble figuring out what people really mean, in the face of what they actually say... or don't say... it's really, really appreciated.

(I'm not sure if it's clear or not, but that is a compliment)

Anyhow, back onto the rails...

Another thing to keep in mind is that, unless there is some truly ingenious cage-resizing method, this thing is only going to be form-fitting for one form on Earth... whoever it was that they formed it to as a model in the first place. Most people are going to have a little bit of wiggle room. This is a bad thing for multiple reasons: the cagee can hurt themselves, it makes a panic attack <I>far</I> more likely if you can move a little but are suddenly stopped before the "intended movement" is completed (it's similar to a claustrophobia response, and differs from straps or cuffs in that there are no direct restraints, it's your space itself that's limited; it's a far more helpless situation), and it makes tickling or other stimulation more challenging.

Yes, this would need to be custom made. Otherwise it'd be horribly uncomfortable and unsafe if you could get into it at all. You're quite right that for anyone else, it'd be a very bad idea. This could only be made if you had a lot of spare time or money.

Re harm: I could be wrong (which is why I'm asking here) but I think the risk would be more of emotional harm than physical. Maybe you could hurt your head banging it around in the cage? But otherwise there's not enough room to do much harm.

But there is just a little bit of room for movement. And it's more constriction than restraint, which could well be claustrophobic. I dunno...

I would prefer to use either ropes, handcuffs, the X frame... table or whatever... Keeps it simple and still as effective...

I agree with you on the emotional mental harm issue. That could be quite scary, in a not good way.

But one advantage this might have is that the victim is fully accessible? (Not lying on their back or sitting, or whatever.)

 

[djhalo07]

Yes, this would need to be custom made. Otherwise it'd be horribly uncomfortable and unsafe if you could get into it at all. You're quite right that for anyone else, it'd be a very bad idea. This could only be made if you had a lot of spare time or money.

Re harm: I could be wrong (which is why I'm asking here) but I think the risk would be more of emotional harm than physical. Maybe you could hurt your head banging it around in the cage? But otherwise there's not enough room to do much harm.

But there is just a little bit of room for movement. And it's more constriction than restraint, which could well be claustrophobic. I dunno...

Right... there is very little room for movement and of course if you stick someone who is very ticklish in there... they're going to want to move... in which case they won't be able to and could cause some serious cramping in any body part. On top of that... once they start cramping, then the mind starts to wonder why, then it's possible they could start hyperventilating, panicing and create a situation you would definitely not want to be in. This is my take on it anyway... Seems it is more hassle than it's worth, and if you did move forward with the idea you would have to be absolutely and totally trusting of the person(s) involved... and also covered legally in the event something does happen...

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

it looks like a medieval torture device, like something you'd see in the dungeon of a castle hanging from a ceiling or something - ya know like on Robin Hood? Anybody? Anyways, it seems more like something out of one of the Saw movies than anything I would ever wanna get involved with - gives me chills just looking at it - and not the good kind either

 

[Azrael]

Re harm: I could be wrong (which is why I'm asking here) but I think the risk would be more of emotional harm than physical. Maybe you could hurt your head banging it around in the cage? But otherwise there's not enough room to do much harm.

The problem I see is the whole reflexive thing; it feels "wrong" to be unable to move in the sense that this cage would render you, which can result in a panicked thrashing. Even if there's less than an inch of space, if you're shaking back and forth and (trying to) whip your head about, you're going to hurt yourself.

That said... I too would be more worried about the emotional trauma of it.

 

[Bugman]

Way to extreme for me,it looks like some kind of torture device and i can't see it being useful for tickling.

 

[djhalo07]

Way to extreme for me,it looks like some kind of torture device and i can't see it being useful for tickling.

I agree.

 

[Redmage]

While I do find it appealing, from a Dom's perspective, it strikes me as being unsafe... from the same viewpoint. I note from the pictures provided in the example that the cage is secured shut via screws, drilled with a power drill (itself not necessary, I realize). If a person were to suddenly panic while in one of these devices, having to unscrew even a single screw to get them out seems to invite a terrifying degree of possibility of bodily harm and lasting mental / emotional trauma....Someone who's more into bondage for its own sake, rather than the convenience it provides, might have a different take on the matter than I.

FWIW, Mark (the fellow who runs the site and creates all of that gear) is a fixture of the BDSM community here in the Bay Area. He's an extremely safe and experienced player. However he does aim at just the group you mentioned: people who like bondage for its own sake. His stuff is not for everyone.

 

[AquaFeline]

seems like there's too much material that gets in the way. no big holes anywhere.

 

[huskys]

Too extreme for me as well.
And not enough freedom for tickling fingers!!

 

[Redmage]

seems like there's too much material that gets in the way. no big holes anywhere.

Oh, you could probably run a few electrical cords through there. All sorts of possibilities then.

 

[giggle-maker]

Everybody seems to be flaming this, and with good points made, to be sure. But a couple of things come to mind.

First, this is obviously made to order and the antithisis of "one size fits all".

Second, due to the "made to order" aspect, it could be made in different positions; arms up over head for armpit access ect. and with larger openings in strategic places.

Third, the "made to order" aspect caters to one more thing. The "lee" would have this made for them out of desire to try this out and have for personal use. This last point I make directly addresses the claustrphobia/panic attack issue. It's not like going out to ACE hardware and cutting some holes in a piece of wood and sticking your feet in them. This thing took some talented (and expensive) manufacturing. The "lee" who would have THIS made for the exclusive purpose of tickling would be way beyond aware of the risks and would self address those risks accordingly.

Myself being an 80% lee found this device at minimum, interesting.

 

[BorisandNatasha]

Just plain nasty and ugly. No use for tickling whatsoever. Looks like it is claustrophobic and insanity inducing.


Boris

 

[Ace Riley]

Oh, I see... it's a sore muscle and cramp machine.

I can't imagine anyone spending too much time in there and walking out without aches from hell.

 

[Azrael]

I simply worry. It is an unusually intense degree of restraint, which means by inherent implication that most of those who try it won't have tried something that intense before. There's got to be a first time. Thus, you can't be positive as to how you'll react. If a person panics, it could take a while to get them out.

That said...

Given some of the points that have been made, I suppose I'd be willing to put a willing person into it...

...you could attach a few sonicaires on the inside and create a hands-free torture device rather easily... *mind at work*

 

[tickledgirl]

Oh, I see... it's a sore muscle and cramp machine.

I can't imagine anyone spending too much time in there and walking out without aches from hell.

I don't think so. Remember, this isn't made for tickling. The idea is that the sub would be in it for a long period. From the site:

The team at Permanent Bondage strives to create equipment which can make a bondage experience truly permanent, while at the same time transforming the subject into a sexually functional work of art.

This interest started as a fetish whim soon turned to reality as we began the search for the ultimate restraint predicament. In an effort to turn your wanker into an erotic piece of art and at the same time take control of your bodily functions including masturbation, this steel "suit" became nothing less than full-body chastity device

If you were just being restrained (as opposed to being tickled), I don't think it'd be especially painful.

It is an unusually intense degree of restraint, which means by inherent implication that most of those who try it won't have tried something that intense before. There's got to be a first time. Thus, you can't be positive as to how you'll react. If a person panics, it could take a while to get them out.

If the guy is responsible (as he sounds, and as RedMage says he is) there's no way someone's going to be dumped into this their first time out. If nothing else, they'd have to hold very still (likely via some lesser restraint) just to create this thing. So while it would be a more intense level the first time, it wouldn't be a zero-to-extreme kinda thing. It'd be someone who was very experienced taking it up another notch. (For someone like me, with minimal bondage experience, it's scary/interesting to consider, but I know I'm extremely unlikely to ever go "there.")

 

[tickledgirl]

Everybody seems to be flaming this, and with good points made, to be sure. But a couple of things come to mind.

First, this is obviously made to order and the antithisis of "one size fits all".

Second, due to the "made to order" aspect, it could be made in different positions; arms up over head for armpit access ect. and with larger openings in strategic places.

Third, the "made to order" aspect caters to one more thing. The "lee" would have this made for them out of desire to try this out and have for personal use. This last point I make directly addresses the claustrphobia/panic attack issue. It's not like going out to ACE hardware and cutting some holes in a piece of wood and sticking your feet in them. This thing took some talented (and expensive) manufacturing. The "lee" who would have THIS made for the exclusive purpose of tickling would be way beyond aware of the risks and would self address those risks accordingly.

Myself being an 80% lee found this device at minimum, interesting.

Thanks, I was wondering if I was the only crazy one here! 🙂

But I certainly can sympathize with many of the responses. Part of the difference is that I find it interesting to think about, but know I'm unlikely to actually try it. For various personal reasons, that's how I am about a lot of stuff here.

But those who are responding are more thinking about it as something they'd really do. For them, it's a lot more possible and so a lot more disturbing.

 

[TicklishGrl4Lfe]

Given some of the points that have been made, I suppose I'd be willing to put a willing person into it...

...you could attach a few sonicaires on the inside and create a hands-free torture device rather easily... *mind at work*

Wow......that is intense...

I AM WATCHING YOU! 😉

 

[ShadowTklr]

I absolutely love this thing!

As someone who enjoys creating a psychologcially edgy scenario (not painful), I can't think of a better way to manipulate the mind of a truly ticklish lee, than placing her in complete, immobilizing bondage, and then toying with her, both verbally and physically to accentuate her intense feeling of vulnerability. I'm not saying it's necessary, but for an ideal situation, this cage is pretty damn cool.

My only criticism is that the device should have Flip-type latches on it, rather than screws. It's not that I don't appreciate the psychological value associated with having to watch as your captor uses a power tool to further your inescapability, but rather, such trouble would prove potentially dangerous in the event of an emergency.

The only other things I would add would be snug-fitting, padded ankle yokes and a hinge at the foot plate, making it easy to simply expose the soles - and I think it should audibly creak as you slowly open it for greater effect.

Also, it appears to be ideal for prolonged sexual teasing. Regarding the cramping concern, I'd be surpised that anyone would cramp up in a sitting position for, perhaps, an hour or three.