red indian
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........so, whats new? same shit, different day for the Senior Service. What happened to the septics? did you turn up late as usual?
I could not agree with you more. The Royal Navy, Senior Service of Her Majesties Armed Forces. The Armed Forces of Great Britain. Why Great Britain? Because that's what we are, OK !!ticklishscribe said:Still the best in the world after all these centuries. "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves."
BigJim said:October 21st 1805.
It was however the best for a while before that, it's just that after it France was totally blockaded into land war only and Spain saw sense and joined our side instead; largely so we could take back all their cities from French occupation and train their arse army into something resembling a decent fighting force by transfering British officers and NCO's into it.
Newcastle Uni said:I have something of an interest in the Napoleonic Wars (although I don't have much knowledge). Its interesting to read about how useless the Spanish and Portugese armies were (especially the Portugese during the Peninsular War) at the beginning of their respective involvements.
As to the Trafalgar, I was watching a programm the other day which questioned Nelsons tactics at Trafalgar! How ridiculous! Trafalgar was a spectacular British success and Nelson's tactics of sailing into the enemy broadsides to divide the enemy fleet was both novel and brilliant.
But i'm waffling again.
BigJim said:Damn man, I LOVE that period of history! As for Nelson's tactics, yeah his squadrons shipped some punishment from the numerically superior Franco-Spanish fleet, but a lot of iron missed and cutting through the line like that meant within thirty minutes 70% of the Allied fleet had been raked to smeg at least once. Nearly all of those were totally dismasted. No other tactics available to that technology would have worked as well. We didn't lose a single ship, the Allied fleet lost eighteen I think. Add to that our 7-900 casualties against the nearly 9,000 of the Allied fleet and I don't think anyone can seriously question Nelson.
The producer must have been bored or something.
red indian said:.......is that the French never rumbled Nelsons tactics, its not as if he had not done it before. The frogs always felt that the decent thing for the enemy to do was to match its own ships up with the equivalent frog ship, i.e. the same amount of fire power. What Nelson should have done, had he been gentleman, was to carefully and neatly get his fleet anchored up nice and close in a neat line next to the french men of war. This would assure a "fair fight" in the eyes of the French.
Unfortunately Nelson was more interested in winning rather than playing by French rules.
Its this kind of French thinking that gave birth to the absurd EEC farming subsidies!
red indian said:.......is that the French never rumbled Nelsons tactics, its not as if he had not done it before.