(sigh) here we go again...
Gentlemen (excluding Mart)... yes the film is mine, a stolen copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, edited and ruined. I've had the Youtube film removed. Sorry! Copyright issues. The original (and others) is still pristine and awesome. From time to time I share them on our own group.
But it (and about 50 others) will be available soon enough, with a range in years that covers most of my time at it in the public eye, from 1975 to 2007
In the meantime, I am happy to help you in any other way I can.
While the Ticklepalace themesite is being rebuilt, you can reach me at our Ticklepalace group ..
(
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ticklepalace/)
...where- despite Mart's sarcastic review- we flourish rather nicely without any of the flames that seem to fester on TMF
(and certainly that will be happening in this thread shortly- watch all the assholes that jump in now to attack!).
We offer intelligent discussion, tech talk, how to's, material, experiences and such... real tops and bottoms, not dreamers... plus actual breathing females (not guys using fake names) who are genuinely into this... a range from tickling to extreme S/M.
Currently we're featuring plaster mumification with some photos to die for (see photo at bottom). We're about realtime, no cyber or fantasy.
Or you can reach me personally at
[email protected] where I'll do my best to help you out.
I will not be following this thread further nor getting involved in Mart & companie's childish flaming antics because I have actual real life tickling to attend to and little time for children... when the choice is between a live girl in bondage to tickle
or fighting here- what would
you choose?
So... If you want the facts and the real stuff, come to me.
If you want the bullshit and lies- go to Mart and his kind.
The rest of this post does not concern you gentlemen, but I thank you for your posts. Please skip to the photo at the bottom.
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As for you Mart, and your pals that will no doubt jump in...
You're clearly disorientated, by that I mean being so overcome by the tickler's version of Napolean Complex that your bruised ego lashes out. That's a hard thing to heal from. Many simply can't. I had some free time so I thought I'd devote a few minutes of it to you to see if I could help you in some way onto a different path from the one you've chosen.
From what I know based on past experience with guys of your demeaner- you can go two ways. You can get bloodied up pretty bad in a losing battle, wasting a lot of time and energy trying to "prove" something to the TMF world. You'll lose, get mad, attack me more, then disappear rather than admit you're wrong... then change your screename and come back as someone else....
..or...
... you can simply set your sights higher, admit your wrong approach (if only to yourself) and reach for a higher goal.
Here's a suggestion: do something no one else has. Create something no one else has, be the first at something. I did! That's why my name will forever be linked with TK. I've seen a hundred guys like you come and go over the years, maybe even more. Know what? They're all gone... and I'm still here. They have no staying power. The reason? I'm real. I can actually
do it and make original magical things happens. People know the difference and people know quality in a top. Girls contact me to meet, or even meet in our group, because they know it's going to be multi-leveled, exploratory, an escape, a fun ride and adventure going into it mentally as well as physically. They're safe, the know the bondage and scene will be too. They're going to see something new in themselves and share it... and my goal is never selfish. Women know these qualities about other people and sense it, and they love it.
It's far better than the usual tk world approach of "tickle the blonde, bang the bitch, and then move on".
So since you clearly wish me dead, the best way to set me in my place, as if I needed to be, would be to do
better than me! Ahhhh!
Think about it! YOU could be the tickle king of the world. That's what you seek, yes? So? Easy enough! Do better than me. I swear I honestly and sincerely wish you to do so and I will be the first to sing your praises. I for one would love to see a new young gun getting shot at. Then I'll sit back and watch the battle of the tickle kings.
While you're thinking about that path, let me tell you what comes along with that glorious title:
From the day you get it, every kid trying to make a name for himself in this silly fetish will come into town gunning for you. Any respect for you will be a forgotten memory. It won't matter how much you give away, how many people you help, or what you've accomplished. All they will ever see is the color green and look for any error or mistake to tear you apart. And when they can't find one, they'll flame you and make them up. You will spend your days and nights online fighting off one mindless attack after another from a bunch of liars whom you know couldn't shine your shoes irl when it comes to real time experience... however, because they have no lives and lots of time to post day and night, and can get their friends to post under fake names as well, you will waste all of your valuable time and talents fighting over...over...
over...
..
thats the point- there
is no point to it. There is
nothing you're fighting over.
Nothing to win. Eventually you'll toss up your hands in disgust over all the continuing lies said about you, take your abilities, and walk away from it.
You'll look back from a happier place and say "What the hell was that all about? Why did they hate me so? It was suppossed to be about tickling".
The answer will always be the same. Everyone wants to be the best, the fastest, the first.
You had something they did not. You could do or had done what they could not. You had the title or attention they wanted but couldn't handle or live up to.
Saying you can do something and then
actually doing it to great levels of expertise are very different things. Most don't know that.
I was the first to do almost anything to do connected with tickling in a public fetish sense. That's why I'm well known in it. It wasn't handed to me as it's handed to you and others now online. There was nothing out there. Go look back and date anything you can find- mine is the earliest work. That's fact, not ego. I did the legwork, or footwork as it may be.. and helped begin it's journey from bdsm to it's own fetish. I began this at age 15 in the public eye, and this included live demos at clubs, magazine world, and parties. As much as you or anyone would like to erase all that- you can't.
What does that gain? Well from the moment the internet was alive, nothing but attacks and people gunning for me. Sometimes in real life! Do you know in 30 years how many guy's skulls I've had to crack open who dared me to show up at a place because they were going to "kick my ass"??? And then the bastards sue me?? Ask TG, she kept a record of the lawsuits.
And all in the the name of.... tickling. How much more ridiculous can it get.
Why do
they do this? Why did
you attack me? The answer is the same as yours will be. Because I was first. Because I made Tied and Tickled. Because I could do this or that. Because I had many girls around me into this. Because I did Sororities. Because I did public tickling. ...because because because.
The real answer as I said is that guys want the title and respect handed to them
without doing the work or knowing what the hell they're doing at all. They come gunning. Their choice of weapon is a flame.
The ONLY reason to flame is to get attention for yourself and show off to everyone. If not, you would contact the person in private email and work out your differences. Walk in their shoes a bit. Showing off in a flame means little.
So think about all that. Enjoy the gun battles.
Here's why I have the vantage point of being able to sit back in pure chargrin, confidence, and laugh at flames or attacks such as you've aimed at me... I can actually
do all the things I talk about. Most can't. I have an unfair advantage. The TMF and TT boast thousands of members- yet comparitively only a small handful ever meet... and even if they do, not to any level of definitive playing. I on the other hand have a huge amount of people around me too
BUT with whom I play, at intense levels. Which would you rather??
So I don't need such places as TMF or Nests or silliness like that. I've already made it, done it, created it. What I've done has always been original. You name it. I already garnish a huge amount of respect from real people whom I meet-- not faceless names posting day and night. The only thing that truly matters are those moments and times you're playing with your partner(s)... everything else.... every post, every flame, are just silly words floating around in cyberspace.
They mean...
nothing.
Anyone of any importance and with any intelligence knows that post below is complete and utter bullshit.
We didn't bruise your ego, so get off your soapbox. You're just a name in cyberspace.
But if it makes you feel important to bash me or others? If it makes you feel big or smart to post lies and look like...whataver? If thats the route you wish to take? Go right ahead. There's a lot like you around. Whatever you say or post means diddley squat. It merely proves you suffer from that tickler's version of Napolean Complex.. and you have our sympathy.
The name Kujman should be enough. Do a search through this forum or through Tickletheater and you will see that trying to buy these videos is a futile exercise.
lol, oh lordy- along with tmf, the least most authoratative place to go for any factual information and the
best to go for lies and flames.
Now here's some real advice: In regards to tickling, bdsm, or anything else-- if you want facts,
true experience, resources, photos, and materials- go to the people that
have that knowledge. Not those that post day and night on TT or TMF for attention's sake. They have nothing to offer.
Kujman used to be a moderator on this forum, and appears to have caused enough bad blood so that nobody wanted him back.
Could you be further off base?
If you call discerning between a good informative post and a stupid post "causing bad blood" and not using diplomacy in order to be Mr.Tickle King- I'm guilty. I could care less about the titlle. I don't kiss ass to get anyone's favors, not even a lady, nor tickle fans. I really honestly don't need to go that route.
An example was a post by a female mod in responce to someone asking
me how to make itching powder. She retorted "use boric acid yadda yadda". This was a damn stupid post from an inexperienced person. Point is I stepped in and posted to stop that post and removed it... people got mad (at that time females into TK were still rare). They wanted her female POV no matter what. I was told, and I quote "Tits sell". Ticklegal never forgot that one and saved that email and the original TMF posts to this day! Point is this was clearly a stupid move to allow such a post. Everyone got mad at me instead of looking at the issue which was a tickler's safety! To me, far more important than a female posting. However they did it their way, posted it.. and the person did it and got hurt. Go ahead and call that bad blood if you wish, but I call it lack of intelligence on their part.
Inexperience is not a crime, nor do I look down on it... unless someone posts that inexperience and it can hurt others.
Problem with TT and TMF is that the mods have no such experience- just want they learn online or see in videos. Neither of which is real life.
So to answer your post Mart-
Fact: I was one of the people who helped design and create TMF a long time ago with Scott. Yes I was a mod and the ONLY mod to ever offer practical
how-to posts with experiences and photos from decades of being at the helm. I also didn't allow any flames. I was also the only mod who ever stood up for a gay man's rights to post his views on TMF (no, I am not Gay- but right is right)... but the homophobia and shallowness was so overwhelming that it sickened ticklegal and I. We were two of many who left.
Ticklepalace, his site, was an escape into a world of his own mind
Here is where it's beginning to fall apart for you and you clearly start to look small and so so envious ... that tickler's version of Napolean Complex again!
The mind is the best place to escape. Everything starts there... even orgasms!
Fact: Ticklepalace themesite was the first of it's kind, created by Ticklegal
and myself- Ticklegal, my partner, being a wonderful authority on TK (first female tickling site up ever!). She having done far more than you ever will deserves a little more respect.
Ours was a themesite oasis for those who seek something more creative than merely downloading photos to jerkoff to every night. That latter approach may be grand for some and all you personally need out of life, but some of us actually have more depth. Those of creative intelligence loved it, that's the only ones I cared about. Those derived of the fast and easy "masturbate theater" generation had no appeal towards it. It housed dozens of pages of info, history, how-to's, photos on making things, history, photos for tickling and also
the first to ever host interactive tickling victims in the dungeons. It's biggest fault is that it required a fast cable speed, few had it at the time.
but in the last 4 or 5 years there did not seem to be 1 satisfied customer who ever got a video out of him. And there appears to be nothing posted by way of clips other than some really poor quality copies that float around.
Oh my, it's getting deep now. Boots, please??
Here you hang yourself completely.
Fact: in excess of 4000 copies sold on just Sorority I alone, not to mention the others which doubles the count. So you're saying that of all those sales-
and you personally know each and every customer- no one was happy with them?? Is this why to this day those customers hound me for more videos and more sequals? Because they
weren't satisfied?? That guys-- like the ones that began this thread-- see my material on Youtube or wherever, they
don't want my material because it's unsatisfying?
See how easy it is to destroy your false claims with simple deduction?? See how you look now? You really need to rethink your path as I suggested above.
...or...
Are you lying and saying that, again, you know all the thousands and thousands of sales and customers- and not ONE got a video?? Which by any means I would be in
jail for doing such. You have heard of the law, haven't you? Business licenses? Permits? US mail?
Again, you're making yourself look envious and bogus. This is the trap all flamers fall into.
Out of all those sales a few got lost in mail (no fault of ours, we don't deliver mail) and yes were finally delivered. Some problems were caused by the shipper (again, not us), also resolved. One guy in England said it took a few months but he finally got his posted glowlingly about it.
Several guys of your ilk always eager to see my demise and
using bogus names jumped on this news and made up various lie after lie about not receiving theirs UNTIL I finally posted the actual postal receipts- which shut them up fast. Some of these guys making these claims got the shock of a lifetime when they came home and their wives had found out all about their secret hidden fetish. How? Because when you claim you didn't get something in the mail, and I have to put a trace on it on my end, the more I pester them the more they investigate! Duh! Yes, it helps having my friend highup who works for the Postmaster General too. But the idea was to find where all these "lost tapes" were going. A postal inspector had come to the house asking questions about the packages they claimed they didn't get. Wives then went looking through their hubby's things. Guess what they found?
One wife actually brought the copy to the door, and it eventually came back to me with a note asking me not to send such filth to their Christian home again!!
Sadly, or maybe not, more than one guy was in deep shit with the Government for such false claims, not to mention their wives!! And with TMF's help in a way: his own posts crucified him.
Ye reap what ye sow.
You mentioned no clips being available. Why should they be? There were many clips and previews around, I've removed them until such time as they're available again for sale. I now have 20 years of sorority initiations alone, not to mention beach films and more.. and as I said, the plaster mummification ordeals. Why put out previews? For three decacdes I've given out free material. Why do it now again? For decent guys like .... you?
😉
Go buy some of Jeff's tapes- he can use the money.
This particular post from you Mart has been a rather uneventful exercise at a flame. If you're going to come at me with such idle silliness, then it's like shooting fish in a barrel. If I only had a dollar for every time that's happened, I'd own YouTube!
Please think about the path you're choosing. My advice to you is don't go down the tubes flaming me or anyone. Don't sit here twisting fact after fact in an attempt to gain attention via my name. Don't use me to bolster
your failing self esteem. Don't waste your time online being envious and posting shit about people when you clearly have a problem and aren't perfect yourself. Don't spend your life posting on TMF or TT at all. Don't just sit back and masturbate to dreams- Go out and LIVE it! DO it.... as I have done.
That's when we'll have something to talk about.
Ok flamers! Line up! Start your posting! I won't be here, but go ahead anyway! It'll be amusing for yourselves.