I can tell you what my real problem is with the Rays and most florida teams. They are not real fan bases. The parks don't sell out unless the team is in the playoffs, and that is only because the other team's fans go down to watch the games. It's ridiculous that a team with no history and no fan base can be a contender, and it continues to be a tough pill for me to swallow. Unless you were born in like 1998 you can not say you were a lifetime Rays fan, and I highly doubt anyone is a converted Rays fan. I once talked to a guy in Disneyworld a few years ago, and he was from Miami. He told me that there are really no such things as real team fans in florida and most just go to the games to watch the other team. With that it just pisses me off that we build sporting venues where the home city could give a rats ass. And to make it worse, without a fan base they win games.